http://www.4j.lane.edu/~ague/culture/EUR/iric.htm here is a site to tell you why the irish came to america as well as migrated to other countries...in the years 1820-30's...10,000 irish left ireland and the reason was the usual ...better way of life, more land....apparently they were welcomed by americans but later they regretted letting immigrates in...because increase of crime..and unemployment....americans didnt want that in their country.....kathy PamCraven@aol.com wrote: If they were poor and destitute they could hardly afford the fare to USA. Also I do not think the normal route would be Scotland - Ireland - USA. Many probably thought the grass was greener on the other side and many others had done well, writen home so often following in neighbours/family footsteps. Over time more Presbyterian left Ireland for USA than catholic. Mine all stayed in Ireland and my mother said her mother told her that her grandfather said they just pulled their belt in another notch when the going got tough. Either they were determined to stay in Ireland or as I believe just did not have the money to leave as most were buried in plots with no headstones. In a message dated 05/10/2005 17:45:29 GMT Standard Time, jhegeman@acegroup.cc writes: There just wasn't enough land for them to make a living, and also, they were under British control, a very oppressive government, so the Irish were very poor and destitute. Or, if they were Scottish, they often came to Ireland on one leg of their journey, and then to the USA a year or two later. Jeannie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H." To: Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] Scotch / Irish History Questions > Does anyone know what would make people leave Ireland in the > 1820s-1830s?...Linda Haviland ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Plant your Irish roots here! ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx 'd "I never said it would be easy, I only said it would be worth it..." For list of my surnames, write me at ut_genealogist@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.