To Whom It May Concern: NOT all people were registered regardless of civil registration for all that went into effect in 1864. Many births were not registered at all. Especailly since most births in those days took place at private homes, unless someone went to the registration office and did this, on th eother hand a lot of registrations took place long after the birth, when th echild was much older and wouldn't be in the year claimed as being born. However, IF you know th earea, and church the people lived you might get a baptismal/christening record from the church. especailly if they were Roman CAtholics. This would have been done within the year of birth, but will only show when the baptism/christening took place not how old the child was, or it's birth date. This goes for those that were bon of Irish parents in England also. Proni doesn't even have all the info and some years ae not filmed at all! The Irish didn't trust the English, therefore registration wasn't a big thing to them, they may have figured it was a ploy to keep them in check, or for a tax purpose, who knows. I looked for 35 years all over Clare and Cork for my ancestors since I was told they had come from Clare! Then found out thru my Grandfather US Army pension records his FAther was supposedly living in cork, and started a search there. Finally found they ( my GGparents) had moved to England in the late 1850s during the "potatoe famine, they had 4 children there,between 1858-1865 and none were registered. Found my maternal GGmother and her family in England finally and there are no births registered for her family despite 6 children born between 1855-1873. This took over 35 years to find for me. I started long before computers, and having things like Ancestry or lists to ask for look ups. You have to dig and keep digging. See if you can find out area where they came from the county and town and write letters to the churches with a nice donation and you might just get yourself a big surprise of all the info you want. Or have a search done by the professional services offered by the heritage centers. Irish research is NOT easy by any means unless you have a relative who wrote it all down somehere and kept it safe! Even then you have to check it all out, yourself to make sure. And there are some very good researchers in Ireland who do look ups and get the info for you at a niminal fee. I was helped by one very good researcher who finally found some of my ancestors, and she made some very good suggestions helping me with places I could check out myself. Good luck, just remember breaking down these brick walls is daunting at times! Pat