Thanks to everyone who replied to my post about resources in Europe. They will definately come in handy during my research. I just have a couple of questions that I was hoping someone could help me with. First, I was wondering how I would go about finding the place in Ireland or Scotland that my ancestors came from. My ancestors came to the United States in the 1850's. Valentine McLaughlin and his wife Sarah were the immigrants. US Census records say that he was born in Ireland and she was born in Scotland. I have naturalization papers for Valentine from 1860. They state that he arrived in the Port of Philadelphia in September of 1852. Were there records of emmigration kept in Europe that would have the towns they were from? What is the best way for me to procede? My second question is a more general historical one. I do not know much about the Scotch-Irish and the history of the region around the time my ancestors left for the US (the 1850's). I am very new to genealogy, but until I uncovered this branch of my family my research was limited to Poland and Germany. Was it common for people born in Ireland to marry people born in Scotland? Would Valentine have likely moved to Scotland or would Sarah likely have moved to Ireland? Was there a particular event at that time that would have made them leave and come to the US? I'm basically looking for any pieces of information that can help me understand the time periods, especially as it relates to genealogical research. My Dad has always said that the people on that side of our family were strict Presbyterians, if that helps narrow the history down. Sorry for such a long post! ~Michael Messinger~

Cara, I am researching the names Healy and Monahan.There's a possibility that Healy is from the Dublin area, if not that's where the ship left from. John and Maryann unknown were born in Ireland, married in Ireland and had the following children, all born Ireland, according to the 1850 census in NY. Charles age 27 born approx 1823,Betsey(Elizabeth?) age 23 bron approx 1825, Maryann age 21 born approx 1829,Isabella age 18 born approx 1832 and Sarrah age 16 born approx 1834. Joh is not listed with them in 1850, so I don;t know if he died in Ireland or NY because the family must of come over somewhere between 1834 and 1850. Any assistance would be greatly appreicated. Anita

Thank you Marsha for sharing and the information, Now with something to get my teeth into, I am off on a mission! With appreciation, Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Sears" <msears01@mchsi.com> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 1:47 PM Subject: [Irish-Roots] Jobes in Sullivan County, Missouri > Here are three that were listed as part of the Kent Funeral Home records > of Green City, Sullivan County, Missouri: > > JOBE, CLAYTON TAYLOR; b 15 Jan 1908; d 01 Feb 1956 > Married: Jones, Ruth Virginia > Parents: Jobe, John Clifton & Pigg, Ruth Law Iona > Green City Cemetery, Green City, Sullivan Co., MO > > JOBE, JOAN CATHERINE; b 25 Jul 1935; d 28 May 1960 > Married: Jobe, John > Parents: Grenko, Joseph E. & Mihalovich, Cecelia > Oakland Cemetery, Centerville, Appanoose Co., & IA > > JOBE, RUTH VIRGINIA; b 08 Aug 1907; d 12 May 2001 > Widowed: Jobe, Clayton Taylor > Parents: Jones, John Farrington & Thomas, Clara May > Green City Cemetery, Green City, Sullivan Co., MO > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Thank you Martha, All advice is appreciated and I will check the records you suggest. No it cant hurt any more than the pain in the 'proverbial' this elusive branch has caused me so far! Thanks again, Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Sears" <msears01@mchsi.com> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 1:32 PM Subject: [Irish-Roots] Jobe Surname > Anne, > > My father had a good friend in Missouri with the last name Jobe. I don't > know if they have done any research, but there is a family of them around > Green City. You might want to check census records, etc. in Sullivan and > Putnam Counties for the name. > > It can't hurt! > > Marsha Sears >

Hi Cara, Thank you for your kind offer. Although I have known for more than three years that my 4 great grandfather originated in Ireland, according to the marriage certificate of his son, I have been unable to trace the family there. Can I ask you for a stab in the dark, who knows I may just be lucky! Samuel JOBE possible born about 1800 +/- Ireland married to unknown and his son, Samuel JOBE born 1824-1828 in Ireland. According to his marriage certificate in 1859 Northumberland, England he was 35 yrs therefore born 1824 however on future Northumberland census his age varies from 1824-1828 born Ireland Can you offer me a glimmer of hope? Thanks again, Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:15 AM Subject: [Irish-Roots] Another FREE databases.... >I have a data base for Co Wicklow Ireland with a few thousand names in it >and all been from parish registers that is free.........just for the asking > > I also have many valuable Irish sources that I do lookups from for anyone > who needs them > and all free > > I cannot guarantee I will find your missing link but I sure try > > Cheers > Cara > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

The book deals only with the siege of Inniskillin (Fermanagh) and only the year 1688. Neither FOOKS nor Radcliffe are mentioned i Sorry ! Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice Radcliff" <abradcliff@yahoo.com> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: [Irish-Roots] Inishkillin > I recently read about the book that Anthony has and the wonderful offer to do look ups. I'm very new to doing research in Ireland and I hope you all will be kind to me if I ask a silly question. Can y'all tell me what area/region Anthony's book might cover? Or is it a Period in Time for Ireland? My 5X GGfather was in Co. Donegal in the mid 1600 and in the Military could this apply to him? Thank you for any assistance. Alice Fooks-Radcliff > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

The book deals only with the siege of Inniskillin (Fermanagh) and the period is only 1688. Neither FOOKS nor RADCLIFFE are in the book. Sorry ! Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice Radcliff" <abradcliff@yahoo.com> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: [Irish-Roots] Inishkillin > I recently read about the book that Anthony has and the wonderful offer to do look ups. I'm very new to doing research in Ireland and I hope you all will be kind to me if I ask a silly question. Can y'all tell me what area/region Anthony's book might cover? Or is it a Period in Time for Ireland? My 5X GGfather was in Co. Donegal in the mid 1600 and in the Military could this apply to him? Thank you for any assistance. Alice Fooks-Radcliff > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

The period is the year of 1688 only, and deals only with the siege of the town of Inniskillen (Fermanagh). Neither FOOKS nor Radcliffe are in the book. Sorry to disappoint. Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice Radcliff" <abradcliff@yahoo.com> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: [Irish-Roots] Inishkillin > I recently read about the book that Anthony has and the wonderful offer to do look ups. I'm very new to doing research in Ireland and I hope you all will be kind to me if I ask a silly question. Can y'all tell me what area/region Anthony's book might cover? Or is it a Period in Time for Ireland? My 5X GGfather was in Co. Donegal in the mid 1600 and in the Military could this apply to him? Thank you for any assistance. Alice Fooks-Radcliff > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I'm looking for William Gould born Ireland approximately 1814. Thanks

Here are three that were listed as part of the Kent Funeral Home records of Green City, Sullivan County, Missouri: JOBE, CLAYTON TAYLOR; b 15 Jan 1908; d 01 Feb 1956 Married: Jones, Ruth Virginia Parents: Jobe, John Clifton & Pigg, Ruth Law Iona Green City Cemetery, Green City, Sullivan Co., MO JOBE, JOAN CATHERINE; b 25 Jul 1935; d 28 May 1960 Married: Jobe, John Parents: Grenko, Joseph E. & Mihalovich, Cecelia Oakland Cemetery, Centerville, Appanoose Co., & IA JOBE, RUTH VIRGINIA; b 08 Aug 1907; d 12 May 2001 Widowed: Jobe, Clayton Taylor Parents: Jones, John Farrington & Thomas, Clara May Green City Cemetery, Green City, Sullivan Co., MO

Anne, My father had a good friend in Missouri with the last name Jobe. I don't know if they have done any research, but there is a family of them around Green City. You might want to check census records, etc. in Sullivan and Putnam Counties for the name. It can't hurt! Marsha Sears ----- Original Message ----- From: "anne" <annet.bamford@btopenworld.com> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] Another FREE databases.... > Hi Cara, > Thank you for your kind offer. > > Although I have known for more than three years that my 4 great > grandfather originated in Ireland, > according to the marriage certificate of his son, I have been unable to > trace the family there. > > Can I ask you for a stab in the dark, who knows I may just be lucky! > > Samuel JOBE possible born about 1800 +/- Ireland married to unknown > > and his son, > Samuel JOBE born 1824-1828 in Ireland. > According to his marriage certificate in 1859 Northumberland, England he > was 35 yrs therefore born 1824 > however on future Northumberland census his age varies from 1824-1828 born > Ireland > > Can you offer me a glimmer of hope? > > Thanks again, > Anne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> > To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:15 AM > Subject: [Irish-Roots] Another FREE databases.... > > >>I have a data base for Co Wicklow Ireland with a few thousand names in it >>and all been from parish registers that is free.........just for the >>asking >> >> I also have many valuable Irish sources that I do lookups from for anyone >> who needs them >> and all free >> >> I cannot guarantee I will find your missing link but I sure try >> >> Cheers >> Cara >> >> >> >> ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >> Plant your Irish roots here! >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Cara: I am looking for Hugh Brady and Ellen (Darby?) Brady both born ca 1809. They emigrated before 1840. Thanks for the offer Bill ---- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 3:15 AM Subject: [Irish-Roots] Another FREE databases.... >I

Alice, believe that is a question better answered by Anthony himself. Here is his e-mail address - scranbag@tiscali.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Alice Radcliff [mailto:abradcliff@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 4:04 PM To: IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Irish-Roots] Inishkillin I recently read about the book that Anthony has and the wonderful offer to do look ups. I'm very new to doing research in Ireland and I hope you all will be kind to me if I ask a silly question. Can y'all tell me what area/region Anthony's book might cover? Or is it a Period in Time for Ireland? My 5X GGfather was in Co. Donegal in the mid 1600 and in the Military could this apply to him? Thank you for any assistance. Alice Fooks-Radcliff --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Plant your Irish roots here! ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005

I have a data base for Co Wicklow Ireland with a few thousand names in it and all been from parish registers that is free.........just for the asking I also have many valuable Irish sources that I do lookups from for anyone who needs them and all free I cannot guarantee I will find your missing link but I sure try Cheers Cara

Bishop - Hyndman mariners.

I recently read about the book that Anthony has and the wonderful offer to do look ups. I'm very new to doing research in Ireland and I hope you all will be kind to me if I ask a silly question. Can y'all tell me what area/region Anthony's book might cover? Or is it a Period in Time for Ireland? My 5X GGfather was in Co. Donegal in the mid 1600 and in the Military could this apply to him? Thank you for any assistance. Alice Fooks-Radcliff --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

Betty Lou, I have not subscribed yet. I have mainly been using it to find other links and more clues in where my McCunes might be from. If you follow some of the links at the county sites, you can find free databases. Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kittyblg@aol.com> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] Helpful Link > Hi: > > I found the site listed below to be very interesting. My question is; > have > you subscribed to this site ? If so, is it worth the $60.00 ? > I would appreciate any information you might be able to provide to me. > > Many thanks, > > Betty Lou NJ > > > I have found this link to be quite useful: > > http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/index.cfm > > For example, if you enter the surname Gallagher under the surname search, > you will get the following information: > > Gallagher: Very numerous: all provinces but primarily Donegal and > adjoining > counties. MacLysaght mentions 23 different spellings of the anglicised > name! > The Irish is Ó Gallchobhair, meaning "lover of foreigners". They were a > leading sept of Cineál Conaill and ally of the O'Donnells. The sermons of > Bishop > James O'Gallagher (1681-1751) are one of the treasures of Irish > spirituality. > The name has been abbreviated to Gallahue. IF & SGG. > > Goligher: Quite numerous: Ulster generally. Ir. Ó Gallchóir. See > Gallagher. > > O Gallchobhair: fairly rare: Donegal etc. Ir.Lang. See Gallagher. > > *You will also get a coat of arms (if available), a listing of where the > name appeared in Ireland in the year 1850, websites (if available) and > other > information! > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Hi: I found the site listed below to be very interesting. My question is; have you subscribed to this site ? If so, is it worth the $60.00 ? I would appreciate any information you might be able to provide to me. Many thanks, Betty Lou NJ I have found this link to be quite useful: http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/index.cfm For example, if you enter the surname Gallagher under the surname search, you will get the following information: Gallagher: Very numerous: all provinces but primarily Donegal and adjoining counties. MacLysaght mentions 23 different spellings of the anglicised name! The Irish is Ó Gallchobhair, meaning "lover of foreigners". They were a leading sept of Cineál Conaill and ally of the O'Donnells. The sermons of Bishop James O'Gallagher (1681-1751) are one of the treasures of Irish spirituality. The name has been abbreviated to Gallahue. IF & SGG. Goligher: Quite numerous: Ulster generally. Ir. Ó Gallchóir. See Gallagher. O Gallchobhair: fairly rare: Donegal etc. Ir.Lang. See Gallagher. *You will also get a coat of arms (if available), a listing of where the name appeared in Ireland in the year 1850, websites (if available) and other information! ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Plant your Irish roots here! ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Would anyone know if there's a mailing list for the topic of Irish mariners. I've not been able to find one on rootsweb, unless I've completely missed it. Thanks for any help for pointing me in the correct direction. Jacquie

Linda you could not be more wrong in making the assumption that I have something against the LDS site, and you are wrong when you believe that there is no strings attached. It is a way of gathering the dead for sealing to what parents they may also have gathered. I am of the faith. No one mentioned Dont use your family folk lore I only said place it away until the time you have located the facts...........you must read the mail as it was posted, and not as you assume. And once again I respect your views,but you yourself have said (Snip) If > you simply keep in mind that they do not verify the information posted and > take whatever they're given, you can still gain valuable information > there. That's my view...Linda Haviland (Snap) and that simply says what we have been saying,. I did not say Dont use the LDS web site, my main concern was in everyone running off willy nilly and adding more missleading data. I once again take this time to say also this, the internet is not the only way to find information in regards to your Irish ancestry, one must spend time reading, looking at parish registers, and asking questions, the questions asked on this list dont always include the name of the person,or the area they think they may have come from, and in fact the list isnt utilised to its best ability, that is asking questions but including names, areas and facts, everyone here is looking for their Irish roots. I would be more than happy to assist anyone if and when I am able to find their roots in Ireland, and in return all I ask, is that should anyone find the missing piece of my puzzle namely Michael O'Donoghue his wife Elizabeth Burns from Old Castle ( and this may be Co Cavan) but as their are 7 Old Castles In Ireland I have been lead a merry chase for these people. I simply ask that you send it home to me ............... Cheers Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H." <avonlindah@hotmail.com> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 5:49 AM Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] LDS STATEMENT > In reading Cara's e-mail it seems like she DOES have something against the > LDS website. I see nothing wrong with adding to the information there. The > more we help each other, the better. It is one of the few free websites > with no strings attached. I have accepted that they take whatever > information they're given, and post it, that they were not responsible for > correcting it. I don't know much about the Mormon religion, but I am > grateful that they do this type of thing and that it's open to the public. > > I also strongly disagree about people keeping family stories to themselves > until there is documentation, if I read the message right. I think you > should get as much information from family as you can, write it down and > regard it as clues to be sorted out later if needed. I had very little to > go on with my mother's family, and had to use stories I heard to start > searching, even though they turned out to be a hodge-podge of mixed > information. I wish my Aunts were here now to know what the truth turned > out to be, so far (maybe they do know now), but the stories they supplied > had valuable clues and I'm glad I wrote them down and that I asked for > them. Everyone has to have a starting point, whether it turns out to be > documented truth or not. I think proving authenticity is only part of the > search, and it should be regarded as mystery-solving, no stone unturned to > resolve things. > > I am not a Mormon, but I find the LDS website one of my invaluable tools. > If you simply keep in mind that they do not verify the information posted > and take whatever they're given, you can still gain valuable information > there. That's my view...Linda Haviland > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >