Same source Grenahams he gives the name these variants McCune/McEwen/McEwing/MacCube/Macewan/MacEwen Antrim 5 households on in each of these parishes Ahoghill/Ballynure/ Carnmoney/Carrigergus/Killead ---------------------- Armagh 9 Households 3 in Ballymore/ 4 in Kilclooney/1 in Loughgilly/1 in Mullaghbrack ==================== Belfast City 15 households 1 in Knockbreda and 14 in Shankill ====================== Down 14 households 1-Ballywater 2 in Bangor 3 in Donaghadee/1 in Greyabbey/3 in Killinchy/2 in Newtownards/1 in Tullyish/ 1 in Tullynakill Cheers Cara

If they were poor and destitute they could hardly afford the fare to USA. Also I do not think the normal route would be Scotland - Ireland - USA. Many probably thought the grass was greener on the other side and many others had done well, writen home so often following in neighbours/family footsteps. Over time more Presbyterian left Ireland for USA than catholic. Mine all stayed in Ireland and my mother said her mother told her that her grandfather said they just pulled their belt in another notch when the going got tough. Either they were determined to stay in Ireland or as I believe just did not have the money to leave as most were buried in plots with no headstones. In a message dated 05/10/2005 17:45:29 GMT Standard Time, jhegeman@acegroup.cc writes: There just wasn't enough land for them to make a living, and also, they were under British control, a very oppressive government, so the Irish were very poor and destitute. Or, if they were Scottish, they often came to Ireland on one leg of their journey, and then to the USA a year or two later. Jeannie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H." <avonlindah@hotmail.com> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] Scotch / Irish History Questions > Does anyone know what would make people leave Ireland in the > 1820s-1830s?...Linda Haviland

In the Calendar of Dromore Wills 1678-1858 the name appears James McCadden of Ballygowen 1807 and the calendar of Raphoe wills from 1684-1858 the name Henry McCadden appears-1721 John Grenahams says that Armagh had 2 families Donegal had 15 families Sligo had 3 families Armagh Roman Catholic -Drumcree Baptism Jan 1 1844 - June 30 1864 June 17 1864 - Dec 31 1880 Marriage Feb 9 1844 - Nov 23 1863 July 23 1864 - Nov 27 1880 Burials May 26 - Dec. 22 1863; June 24, 1864 - Dec. 30, 1880 Reference to reel is 5586 availabe Dublin Library Should you want anymore of these Parishes feel free to contact me oft the list Cheers Cara

http://www.4j.lane.edu/~ague/culture/EUR/iric.htm here is a site to tell you why the irish came to america as well as migrated to other countries...in the years 1820-30's...10,000 irish left ireland and the reason was the usual ...better way of life, more land....apparently they were welcomed by americans but later they regretted letting immigrates in...because increase of crime..and unemployment....americans didnt want that in their country.....kathy PamCraven@aol.com wrote: If they were poor and destitute they could hardly afford the fare to USA. Also I do not think the normal route would be Scotland - Ireland - USA. Many probably thought the grass was greener on the other side and many others had done well, writen home so often following in neighbours/family footsteps. Over time more Presbyterian left Ireland for USA than catholic. Mine all stayed in Ireland and my mother said her mother told her that her grandfather said they just pulled their belt in another notch when the going got tough. Either they were determined to stay in Ireland or as I believe just did not have the money to leave as most were buried in plots with no headstones. In a message dated 05/10/2005 17:45:29 GMT Standard Time, jhegeman@acegroup.cc writes: There just wasn't enough land for them to make a living, and also, they were under British control, a very oppressive government, so the Irish were very poor and destitute. Or, if they were Scottish, they often came to Ireland on one leg of their journey, and then to the USA a year or two later. Jeannie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H." To: Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] Scotch / Irish History Questions > Does anyone know what would make people leave Ireland in the > 1820s-1830s?...Linda Haviland ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Plant your Irish roots here! ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx 'd "I never said it would be easy, I only said it would be worth it..." For list of my surnames, write me at ut_genealogist@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

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thank you anthony for your look up my gg grandfather was a thomas hart, i dont know from where in ireland though regards irene >-- Original Message -- >From: "Anthony" <scranbag@tiscali.co.uk> >Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] inniskillin >Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:29:17 +0100 >To: IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > >HART yes, McINTYRE no. >Thos.HART was a signatory to the Humble Address to the King after the >victory over the Irish Army. So also was Morgan HART (p.53) >Anthony >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Irene White" <yappyma@tiscali.co.uk> >To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 5:59 AM >Subject: [Irish-Roots] inniskillin > > >> hello anthony i wonder if there are harts or mcintyres in yous book >regards irene >> >> >> ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >> Plant your Irish roots here! >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > >==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Plant your Irish roots here! > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > ___________________________________________________________ Unlimited Tiscali Broadband from 14.99! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/

There just wasn't enough land for them to make a living, and also, they were under British control, a very oppressive government, so the Irish were very poor and destitute. Or, if they were Scottish, they often came to Ireland on one leg of their journey, and then to the USA a year or two later. Jeannie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H." <avonlindah@hotmail.com> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] Scotch / Irish History Questions > Does anyone know what would make people leave Ireland in the > 1820s-1830s?...Linda Haviland > ______________________________ > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/118 - Release Date: 10/3/2005

Sorry, none. Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Ritger" <rritger@payette.com> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:58 PM Subject: RE: [Irish-Roots] Inishkillin > Anthony: > > Are there any McCaddin's (or McCaddon, McCadden, etc.)? > > I still can't find out where my McCaddin relatives are from in either > Scotland or Ireland. > > -Bob Ritger > www.ritger.com > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

I'm looking for a William Gould , born Ireland approximately 1814 Thanks

Does anyone know what would make people leave Ireland in the 1820s-1830s?...Linda Haviland

The Irish potato famine was from 1847 to 1849. There were other small famines but this one was country wide. " The Great Hunger" by Cecil Woodham Smith, is a good reference. Orma ----- Original Message ----- From: <MMDMA85208@aol.com> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] Scotch / Irish History Questions > Michael,, If your ancestors came to the US in the early 1850's it could be > due to the potato famine in Ireland which I think lasted several years > beginning > with 1849. My line is McCarron and I am stopped too. My gggrandfather > George McCarron was born somewhere in Pa. in 1796 so my line came over a > lot > earlier than yours. Good luck and if I find anything that you might be > able to use, > I will pass it along and I will watch the Ireland Roots. Marge > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/119 - Release Date: 10/4/2005 > >

Anthony, If you answered my request for a lookup I missed it. Please check your book for: BEST, LONEY and McCLAIRTY/McLAIRTY. Thank you. Dorothy Petry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony" <scranbag@tiscali.co.uk> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:06 PM Subject: [Irish-Roots] Inniskillin >I have a book printed in 1688 entitled "The Actions of the Inniskilling >Men". (This was presumably handed down from my grandfaher and his father >who were in the 27th.Inniskilling Regt.) The book includes 208 names of >those involved in 1688 and it seemed possible that there might be interest >today from the genealogical view.. > I shall be happy to do lookups as the names are carded. > Anthony > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Can someone tell me about the village of O'Quin in Ireland? And, where did the O'Quins originate? Thanks! Mary Jo

Cara I agree with you about some of the info being off just a wee bit. Especially birthdates and such. Also had a child attached to a father, later to find out that OOPS! wrong da. So getting the correct info does take time, especially if you want correct info. I have been trying to a year to get info for my 6th great grandda John B McClelland, who was suppose to have been born in 1710, in Antrim, Ulster, N Ireland. But have hit brick walls continously. If there would be any chance for you to check this out for me. I would be ever so greatful. Thank you in advance. Judy Cara_Links <cracker@hotkey.net.au> wrote: Linda you could not be more wrong in making the assumption that I have something against the LDS site, and you are wrong when you believe that there is no strings attached. It is a way of gathering the dead for sealing to what parents they may also have gathered. I am of the faith. No one mentioned Dont use your family folk lore I only said place it away until the time you have located the facts...........you must read the mail as it was posted, and not as you assume. And once again I respect your views,but you yourself have said (Snip) If > you simply keep in mind that they do not verify the information posted and > take whatever they're given, you can still gain valuable information > there. That's my view...Linda Haviland (Snap) and that simply says what we have been saying,. I did not say Dont use the LDS web site, my main concern was in everyone running off willy nilly and adding more missleading data. I once again take this time to say also this, the internet is not the only way to find information in regards to your Irish ancestry, one must spend time reading, looking at parish registers, and asking questions, the questions asked on this list dont always include the name of the person,or the area they think they may have come from, and in fact the list isnt utilised to its best ability, that is asking questions but including names, areas and facts, everyone here is looking for their Irish roots. I would be more than happy to assist anyone if and when I am able to find their roots in Ireland, and in return all I ask, is that should anyone find the missing piece of my puzzle namely Michael O'Donoghue his wife Elizabeth Burns from Old Castle ( and this may be Co Cavan) but as their are 7 Old Castles In Ireland I have been lead a merry chase for these people. I simply ask that you send it home to me ............... Cheers Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H." To: Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 5:49 AM Subject: Re: [Irish-Roots] LDS STATEMENT > In reading Cara's e-mail it seems like she DOES have something against the > LDS website. I see nothing wrong with adding to the information there. The > more we help each other, the better. It is one of the few free websites > with no strings attached. I have accepted that they take whatever > information they're given, and post it, that they were not responsible for > correcting it. I don't know much about the Mormon religion, but I am > grateful that they do this type of thing and that it's open to the public. > > I also strongly disagree about people keeping family stories to themselves > until there is documentation, if I read the message right. I think you > should get as much information from family as you can, write it down and > regard it as clues to be sorted out later if needed. I had very little to > go on with my mother's family, and had to use stories I heard to start > searching, even though they turned out to be a hodge-podge of mixed > information. I wish my Aunts were here now to know what the truth turned > out to be, so far (maybe they do know now), but the stories they supplied > had valuable clues and I'm glad I wrote them down and that I asked for > them. Everyone has to have a starting point, whether it turns out to be > documented truth or not. I think proving authenticity is only part of the > search, and it should be regarded as mystery-solving, no stone unturned to > resolve things. > > I am not a Mormon, but I find the LDS website one of my invaluable tools. > If you simply keep in mind that they do not verify the information posted > and take whatever they're given, you can still gain valuable information > there. That's my view...Linda Haviland > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Plant your Irish roots here! ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I also took a look at the Dublin heads of household for your name Hyndman and in 1851 Catherine Hindman was living at no 4 Belvidere lace civil parish of St Georges Northside George H Hyndman was living at 47 Long land Meath Hospital civil parish St Peters Southside Jno. S Hyndman was living at 6 harrington Street Civil Parish st Peters Southside Robert Hyndman was living at 4 Fitzgibbon Street civil parish st georges Northside Sam Hyndman was living at 87 Capel street civil parish St mary's Northside May not be yours but nothing ventured nothing gained Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacqueline Baral" <jacquiebaral@verizon.net> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 6:32 AM Subject: [Irish-Roots] BISHOP - HYNDMAN seafarers > Would anyone know if there's a mailing list for the topic of Irish > mariners. > I've not been able to find one on rootsweb, unless I've completely missed > it. > Thanks for any help for pointing me in the correct direction. > Jacquie > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Michael,, If your ancestors came to the US in the early 1850's it could be due to the potato famine in Ireland which I think lasted several years beginning with 1849. My line is McCarron and I am stopped too. My gggrandfather George McCarron was born somewhere in Pa. in 1796 so my line came over a lot earlier than yours. Good luck and if I find anything that you might be able to use, I will pass it along and I will watch the Ireland Roots. Marge

Are sure it isn't McCarron? Marge

Closest I can get you would be the coastguard site which I would reccomend to anyone for a look at it lists coastguards etc and its just a brilliant site it has a searchable data base also http://www.coastguardsofyesteryear.org/census/CII1901-11h.htm I also have a love of sea faring things even to the point I married one not a thing but an Irish seafaring man.........still out their on the briney doing his work today............ So if I can help I will. Cara

Anthony: Are there any McCaddin's (or McCaddon, McCadden, etc.)? I still can't find out where my McCaddin relatives are from in either Scotland or Ireland. -Bob Ritger www.ritger.com

Valentine McLaughlin and his family lived in Slatington, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania after they immigrated to the US. Sorry!