> Listers: > Looking for any information regarding these two families: DORGAN- > FLYNN and HARTNETT-DUHIG of East Cork. > I have an extended database about the descendants of these two > families: Please visit: www.billdorgan.com. > > > PATRICK DORGAN (Born about 1830, Ballybraher, Cloyne Parish, East > Cork and died before 1886) and ANN FLYNN (Born about 1830, > Ballyandreen, Cloyne Parish, East Cork and died before 1886). Griffith's Valuation of County Cork in 1851-1853 (LDS film #0830537) lists a Patrick DARGAN (a variant spelling of DORGAN). This Patrick DARGAN is the brother of John DORGAN and the father of Patrick J. DORGAN. Patrick DARGAN had a house, offices, and land in Carrigkilter: 14 acres, 5 perches, 3 roods 21 perches and 10 acres, 3 roods and 25 perches. He is also listed in the Valuation of Tenements 1855 in Carrigkilter as Patrick DARGAN. Maurice Cusack leased the land in Carrigkilter before 1855 and Patrick DARGAN later leased the same land about 1855. The landlord's name was Thomas Garde Durdin, a descendant of William Penn who founded Pennsylvania. Thomas Garde Durdin would arrive in East Cork from England each year to collect the rents. While in Cork he stayed at one of his estates: Shanagarry "Castle" or Sunville House. In the 1855 Landlord Index of “County Cork Encumbered Estates” (Volume 4, FHL Film No. 25883), Thomas Garde Durdin, Esq. sold his land holdings at auction on 19 June 1855. At the time he held the “Lands of Killderrig, Carrigkilter, Coalvodig otherwise Sunviille, Ballybraher West, Snugborough, Ballyronahan, Ballybraher East, Ballinamona, and part of Shanagarry - 19 June 1855 - (lot maps).” This is the date that Patrick Dargan “bought” his farm ... a farm that he had formerly “leased” from Thomas Garde Durdin. This is the first recorded Dorgan “deed of sale” since the English Reformation of the late 1500s. I have sent for a copy of this deed fom the Dublin Archives. Patrick DARGAN'S yearly rent was 17 English Pounds for the land and 1 Pound, 5 Shillings for the buildings. If he improved the land, the rent would increase each year. Thomas Garde Durdin died in 1867. In the 1880s, the Land Reform Acts went into effect sponsored by Michael Davitt of the Irish Parliament and later by Charles Stewart Parnell a member of the House of Commons of the English Parliament. The Land Acts sought reform in three areas called the three F's: Freedom of Rent, Freedom of Tenure and Freedom from Eviction without trial. Amazingly, the Protestant landowners peacefully went back to England in the 1880s and 1890s never to return to their estates. The tenant farmers continued to pay their rents to the State in the 1880s and 1890s. After the 1920s the State made these tenant farmers the actual "owners" of the lands they once leased! Patrick DARGAN died before his son, Patrick J. DORGAN, married Mary HARTNETT on November 26, 1886. He is documented as "deceased" on their marriage certificat > > JOHN HARTNETT (Born about 1830, Garryvoe, Cloyne Parish, East > Cork) and MARY DUHIG (Born about 1830, Ballymacoda, Cloyne Parish, > East Cork). Here is what I know about John Hartnett: According to Griffith's Valuation of 1851-1853, there were many HARTNETTs listed in the Parishes surrounding Ballycotton, but there is only one listed in Garryvoe: JOHN HARTNETT, Garryvoe location, Garryvoe Lower. He is the father of Mary Hartnett, the wife of Patrick J. Dorgan. He owned 19 acres, 26 perches and 1 acre, 2 roods, 30 perches. There are other HARTNETTs: Denis, James, and Patrick. One of these HARTNETTs, perhaps Denis, was the grandfather of Mary Hartnett and the other two were her father's brothers, her uncles. Denis HARTNETT belonged to the parish of Kilmahon in Ballybraher. He had 20 acres, 7 perches and 2 acres, 3 roods, 36 perches. James HARTNETT belonged to the parish of Kilmahon in Ballylongane. He had 24 acres, 3 roods, 9 perches and 2 acres, 1 rood, 11 perches. Patrick HARTNETT belonged to the parish of Kilmahon in Monagurra. He had Herd's house and 15 acres, 4 perches and 42 acres, 17 perches. Monagurra and Ballybraher are adjoining townlands while Ballylongane is between Shanagarry and Garryvoe. The 1766 census of Cloyne has one "HARNETT". His religion is noted as "Papist". There are no HARTNETTs listed in Ballybraher or Carrigkilter. There is a John Hartnett listed in Ballycotton and several Hartnett's in or around Ballyandreen. John Hartnett is listed as the father of Mary Catherine Hartnett on her death certificate. The HARTNETTs are most likely buried in the Mogeely Cemetery. > > I don't have any information concerning ANN FLYNN and MARY DUHIG. > > This is what I know about ANN FLYNN: > > Johanna Flynn appears in the records as Ann, Johanna and Nancy > Flynn (Flinn and Fling)! She was most likely from Ballyandreen. > There are Flynns still represented there. She is most likely > buried in the ancestral Dorgan cemetery at Ballymacoda Hill > Cemetery, Shanagarry, East Cork where the name Johanna appears on > one of the two gravestones. > > There is a church baptismal record that Patrick and Nancy (synonym > for Ann and Johannah) Dorgan were the godparents of Michael John > Shinnick who was born December 18, 1873 in Ballycatoo, Midleton, > Cloyne, County Cork. He was baptized in St. Colman's Church, > Cloyne on December 20, 1873. His parents were John Shinnick of > Ballycatoo, East County Cork and Elizabeth Dorgan of Ballybraher, > Parish of Cloyne, East County Cork. John Shinnick and Elizabeth > Dorgan were married about 1872. Elizabeth Dorgan was the daughter > of Patrick Dargan and Ann (Nancy, Johannah) Flynn. > > > This is what I know about MARY DUHIG: > > Mary Duhig (Duffy in English) most likely came from Ballymacoda. > Mary Duhig is listed as the mother of Mary Catherine Hartnett on > Mary Catherine’s death certificate. > > > ANY HELP APPRECIATED. > > > > BILL DORGAN > email: billdorgan@billdorgan.com > website: www.billdorgan.com > > > > > >

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Is anyone researching the MC GIVERON'S (AKA McGivern/Magiverin) ? I am searching information on my Great Grandfather JAMES MCGIVERON b 7/8/1823 at Drumnabreeze or Magheralin, County Down. N.I. He went to Scotland and was charged with a crime and was sentenced in Edinburgh 1845. He was sent from London on the "Mayda" to Norfolk Island on 29/8/1845 He was then sent to Hobart, Tasmania, Australia on the "Pestongee" on 19/5/1847 He married Sarah Jane Goodyer in Tasmania on 21/2/1866. I have all the Tasmanian family (I think) But would like to know more about his parents possibly James (Irish) and Catherine (possibly Scottish) Can anyone help please. Thanks, Robin W - Tasmania, Australia

I found that between 1845- 1876 in the civil registration there were only 9 marriages of your surname Turley And only one that I found ( that does not mean there is not more) Was a Margaret Turley daughter of Owen married 13th may 1853 St James Dublin to Nathan Kelsall son of William. There will of course be no records of the ferry passengers in the time frame you need as it was seen as like getting on a bus to go somewhere .............. If you should want the other marriages just let me know Cheers ©Cara_Links Researching Co.Wicklow,Wexford. A headstone or two, a dusting of elsewhere A friend is one who accepts your past, loves you as you are, and believes in all of your tomorrow's. ***Please remind me if I have not done that job for you, my intentions are always good, but sometimes time runs out on me, so I leave it up to you to remind me.

Cara: In reading your e-mail on the Irish-roots list, I wonder how you got the information? Do you have access to the civil registrations in Ireland? If so, perhaps you could give me a helping hand -- my gr-grandparents were in the 1860 census in New Jersey, USA with their infant daughter. I don't know if they were married in Ireland or the States. My info indicates they are both from Longford Co., Ireland. Is this something you could look up for me? Catherine Newman/Thomas Fox. Thank you. Celia Ewald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:39 AM Subject: [Irish-Roots] TURLEY surname >I found that between 1845- 1876 in the civil registration there were only 9 >marriages of your surname Turley > And only one that I found ( that does not mean there is not more) > Was a Margaret Turley daughter of Owen married 13th may 1853 St James > Dublin to Nathan Kelsall son of William. > > There will of course be no records of the ferry passengers in the time > frame you need as it was seen as like getting on a bus to go somewhere > .............. > > If you should want the other marriages just let me know > Cheers > > ©Cara_Links > Researching Co.Wicklow,Wexford. > A headstone or two, a dusting of elsewhere > A friend is one who accepts your past, > loves you as you are, and believes in all of your tomorrow's. > ***Please remind me if I have not done that job for > you, my intentions are always good, but sometimes > time runs out on me, so I leave it up to you to remind me. > > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Plant your Irish roots here! > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

I am searching for any information on Dennis Redmond, Bpt. Wicklow town, Ireland. Are there amy church records for around 1805. His mother was Mary Bryne and John Redmond. Thanks Nancy

Dear Listers: I have a Web Site for DORGAN researchers: www.billdorgan.com Please visit and sign my guest book. I would appreciate any help with the following: I am looking for any information concerning PATRICK DORGAN (DARGAN) and his wife, ANN FLYNN (c. 1830-1886). PATRICK came from Ballybraher, Ballycotton, Co. Cork. I don't know anything about ANN FLYNN. I would like to confirm: 1. the birthplace, baptism and marriage of PATRICK DORGAN and ANN FLYNN 2. the parents of PATRICK DORGAN and ANN FLYNN I would like to hear from any listers familiar with the DORGAN and FLYNN families. Sincerely, Bill Dorgan Here is all I know about PATRICK DORGAN and ANN FLYNN: Patrick DARGAN (DORGAN) was born on a farm in Ballybraher, Ballycotton,County Cork on or about 1830. His father, whose name we do not know, owned or leased this farm. I have been unable to trace the deeds. This was, of course, the era between the Penal Laws (1690s) and Roman Catholic Emancipation (1829). Catholics were not allowed to "own" land nor "vote". All five children of Patrick DARGAN (DORGAN) and his wife, ANN FLYNN, were born on this farm. Later, his daughter, MARY DORGAN lived on this farm with her husband, Jerry Healy. One of the children of MARY DORGAN and Jerry Healy, John Healy, married Margaret Grahame and had five children: Elizabeth, Jerry and David (twins), John Christopher, and James. Elizabeth, David and John Christopher still live on the farm in Ballybraher. James died in 1994 and Jerry died in July 2003. CHILDREN OF PATRICK DARGAN (DORGAN) AND ANN FLYNN: 1. DAVID DORGAN was born about 1853 in Ballybraher, Ballycotton, County Cork Ireland. He married Elizabeth Ahearne who was born about 1853. David DORGAN and his wife Elizabeth Ahearne had no children. But, they raised David DORGAN's nephew (his sister Mary's son, John Healy) and they raised Elizabeth Ahearne's niece (her sister's daughter, Margaret Grahame). John Healy and Margaret Grahame later married and had five children: Elizabeth, Jerry and David (twins), John Christopher, and James. All five children never married. Elizabeth, David and John Christopher are still on the farm in Ballybraher. James died in 1994 and Jerry died in July 2003. The Irish Census of 1901 lists David as the "Head of the Household" in Carrigkilter, Ballycotton, County Cork, Ireland. All persons living in his household were listed as "Roman Catholics". According to the census, his house had three rooms in which four people lived: David, a "farmer", age 48; his wife, Elizabeth, age 48; his "Farm Servant", Jeremiah Cronin, age 23; and his "General Servant Domestic", Mary Hassett, age 22. Some of the descendants of Jeremiah Cronin and Mary Hassett still live in the area, but they are no relation to the DORGAN family. 2. MICHAEL DORGAN, born about 1855 in Ballybraher, Ballycotton, County Cork. Michael DORGAN married Johannah Garde. She was from Ballynamona, Shannagarry, Co. Cork. They had four children: Lena married William (Billy) O'Brien and had no children. Mary married Billy's brother, John O'Brien and had no children. Patrick married Ann Millerick and had five children: The eldest son, Michael, emigrated to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and married Kitty Walsh and had four children; Philip married Maureen O'Neill and had three children; Ellen married Patrick Motherway and had six children; Ann married David Barry and had eight children; and Liam is the only one left. Liam married Mary Harney and has five children. Liam once owned DORGAN'S Pub in Cloyne. It is now under new management and the name is changed to Aunty Biddy's. William (Bill) married Sussanah Heffernan and had five children. All four are deceased. 3. MARY DORGAN, born about 1856 in Ballybraher, Ballycotton, County Cork. Mary DORGAN married Jerry Healy of Lisanley, Cloyne, County Cork and had five children: John married Margaret Grahame; Patrick (Pad); Michael (Mick), Ann (never married) and an unknown female who married a man named Meaney of Aghada, County Cork. 4. ELIZABETH DORGAN, born about 1858 in Ballybraher, Ballycotton, County Cork. Elizabeth DORGAN married John Shinnick of Ballycatto, Cloyne, County Cork. They had three children: Edmund, Elizabeth, and Hannah. 5. PATRICK J. DORGAN, born April 26, 1861 in Ballybraher, Ballycotton, County Cork, Ireland; died December 09, 1937 in Cranston, Rhode Island. Patrick left Ireland from Cobh on October 28, 1896, landed in Ellis Island, and went on to live in Rhode Island. His wife and family followed him six months later on June 9, 1897. Patrick J. Dorgan is my great-grandfather. He is the bridge between Ireland and Rhode Island ... the first known of this DORGAN family to "come over" to the USA.

Hi Anthony, If you are still checking the Inniskilling book please see if there are any Mawhinney, Shaw and Magee names on your list. Thank you Nada Brewer

Searching (blindly) for Peter Mulligan b abt 1818 Ireland Margaret Reilly/Reilley b abt 1823 Ireland they married November 1851 in Bridgeport CT. Perhaps they came from the same town in Ireland? Maybe someone knows? Also: Annie E. O'rourke b abt 1855; perhaps daughter of Patrick and Catherine O'Rourke of Ireland? Appreciate any possible good luck! Gail Hahn Hutchcraft, ladybuggc@sbcglobal.net Ford County, Il volunteer

I have the marriage certificate of my great-grandmother. It indicates she was born in "Ireland." Parents names Daniel and Jane (Gilvary?). Of course some places show the name as Daley, others Daly. She listed herself as "Lizzie" on her marriage license and her age as "21 on next birthday." I can not find any other information on her other than the marriage certificate and the birth certificate of her second daughter, my great-aunt, on which it indicated she was born in "Ireland." Husband's name was George E. Burlingame, married 1883 in Poughkeepsie, NY. Lizzie is not in any of the censuses, although I found George in the 1900 census living in Manhattan as a boarder. Any suggestions? Thanks. Celia

Appreciate all that you do. More Daniel Callahans than I could wish for here and in Ireland. Perhaps you can unearth some info here. Catherine Callahan, mother Catherine Sullivan, Dad Owen Sullivan born 1846 married to a Callahan O'Callaghan (love that name) born 1847; father Daniel O'Callaghan Mother, Margaret??? Or Bernard Francis Callahan Born Oct. 7, 1886 from Derrylahn, Cork Thanks a Bunch, Cathy From: Cara_Links<mailto:cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 8:43 PM Subject: [Irish-Roots] DALY -CALLAHAN Seems every generation in Co Cork had a Margaret Daly married to a Callaghan I do have information on this area but it begins in 1864 I did not realise how much the name DALY appeared in Co Cork If any of the other dates are needed feel free to contact me marriages are from 1847 And none found for Daniel and Margaret Cara ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Plant your Irish roots here! ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx>

My Grandfather James O'Toole (later renamed McCabe) was born in Lurgan workhouse on the 2-Mar-1901. I believe from an abbreviated birth certificate that his mother was Eliza O'Toole. I know he moved to the Govan area of Glasgow when he was quite young. The problem I have is in this house in Govan he lived with an Alice McCabe (nee O'Toole) and Thomas McCabe, who both are listed as his parents on his wedding certificate, so,Was this an error or did Eliza die during childbirth, or did Eliza have the child But her sister (?) bring him up? Was Alice an only child? (Her parent's names were William O'Toole and Rebecca O'Toole (nee McDonald) Or were Eliza and Alice around at the same time?? Could you please point me in the right direction on how to solve this puzzle? Thanks in advance. Bruce McLachlan bruce@mcbrucie.co.uk

I have updated the Ireland books section of my website. New books have been added in all sections: Parish History, Local History, Genealogy, History, Fiction. New volunteers have also been added to do lookups in the books. You can find the links by going to the URL below my name. At the top of my homepage, under Ireland, click on Ireland Books. That will take you to the Ireland Books Discussion Mailing List website. At the bottom of that page, you will find links to both the Parish History Books and to the Ireland Book List. If you would like to add books to this website, just use the convenient forms at the bottom of all the book pages. If you would like to volunteer to do lookups, just email me off list. If your email address has changed and you are a lookup volunteer, please write me off list, giving the the book category and title. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Hello, I also have an Irish ancestor but do not know where in Ireland to search..... My John Earl or Earle is found in Ontario Canada in the 1851 census with his wife Lucinda and 5 children.. all the children were born in Ontario Canada. His wife was born in New York but they probably married in Ontario sometime before their first child was born, Nathanial Churchill Earl Dec 1832...... The 1851 and 1861 Ontario census records both show John as born in Ireland..... but not where. nor when he came to Canada..... his birth, calculated from the census records indicate he was born about 1810 or 1811 Ireland. I have not been able to locate an immigration record. So I do not know if he came as a child with parents or as a young man by himself. John was a Teacher and also a Lay Minister.... Methodist it appears. It appears that John died in 1884 ... froze to death in February at Gull Lake and was found in the Spring.... he was listed as a school teacher on the death certificate.... although there is no other information to be sure that this was the right John.... he is the only one that seemed to fit .... age, born Ireland, occupation.... his wife and children were in Michigan by that time but she was residing with her children and family stories are that he went off on a mission and never returned.... Is there no hope of finding his birth / parent information for Ireland? I am lost as to where to go next and someone told me that you have to know their "homeland" in order to continue research. I do feel very blessed though.... I have a photo of John and wife Lucinda and have placed them on my webpage listed below under the Earl Family link. Its wonderful to be able to put a face to the name.... and makes my quest seem so much more personable... and a closer connection to my ancestor whom I have never met. Pat Holling La Center, Washington USA http://groups.msn.com/TheHollingFamily/homepage

Cara, I know that they were Roman Catholics, but the name doesn't show up on any lists of Irish names, the closest ones found being Havlin or Havellan..I'm open to more possibilities. I have tried finding them in passenger lists..ISTG (Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild) being the best, with only one possible match for John. Since my great-great-grandfather was born here in the U.S. in 1835 we know they were here before Civil Registration started in the U.K. I have joined Rootsweb lists and more. Knowing now that John was the son of John and Ann Havlin, his WIFE Ann the daughter of Roger and Cecilia Havlin, makes more to search for, but not any easier. I still don't know why the spelling became Haviland with us, or what it originally was, as it changes so much in the censuses and early records. Thanks for your help, Cara. There has to be a way..I inherited their stubborness! LOL...Linda H.

This must be one of the hardest emails I have ever undertaken to answer -and no doubt in one email I cannot do it justice in suggesting things to do and things that can be done, so please if my advice is helpfull feel free to ask questions, there must be others who have ideas as well. Mine is purely based on the fact that I have been going in and out of Ireland for many years doing research, and it has been a hard learning exercise with much more to learn And I hope I do it with some success and give you hope that their is a way to venture into this hard area of research. Several things that may aid you are 1- Do you know their religion 2- The Irish naming pattern may help if they are RC 3- Never give up is my motto- for you exist that is something your ancestors gave you.........enjoy that as well 4- It does help if you state the name you are researching as well others are also researching names and they dont all use the front of the list, many are sitters and wait, perhaps out of shyness or just sit waiting which is a sad case because others then miss out on help 5- Shipping lists --- and yes I know they are scarce but having never gone researching into America I only know of some that exist. 6- Join the necessary lists at rootsweb for all the help you can get and if you are not sure of what list the Dublin City list is a great one to begin on. 7- Remember that civil registration did not begin until 1864 RC and a little earlier for the Church of Ireland, registers have been destroyed but dont fall into the myth that ALL were destroyed some were transcribed before being handed in to the powers that be and some do still exist if not complete. Looking at the names listed Haviland-Havlin and Levell The surname Levell appears after 1864 in Armagh-Co Down and Antrim And under the spelling of Level and the variants there of Level in Co Down in the parish of Drumbo Laval/Lavalle/Lavel Laval shows there is four households in Galway in he parish of Annaghdown Under Lavalle Cork city has 2 households in the parish of St Nicholas and Mayo 1 household in the parish of Kilmeena Under Lavel their is one household inLouth in the parish of Faughart and one in Meath in the parish of Kilmainham I could no find a common bond between the name Levell and Wittey as I actually see this would most likely be a variant of Whitty which is a southern Ireland name although it will of course appear elsewhere. HAVILAND The only variant I found still exisiting in Ireland Four households appear 2 in Mayo- Parish of Ballinrobe and 2 in Meath-Parish of Athboy Fewer than five births were recorded for haviland in 1890 -- Although the family name you are seeking is much earlier than civil registration, you are going to have to face the long daunting task of sorting through whatever LDS films are available to cover the parishes you decide to look at on your family. Having not done Mayo research cannot say what is available on that one, but Meath also has some hard parts to cross for instance the missing burial registers etc. Good luck and if any of you in your wanderings come across Michael Odonghue ( and variants ) and Elizbeth Burns married and missing one son named Thomas ...........please feel free to send him home to me I have only been looking for 23 years and thats not long...............after all their are others who have searched longer to find the missing piece. Cheers Cara List admin Co Wicklow Ireland Ireland tombstones Ireland Cemeteries Ireland Obits

Hello Cara, Many thanks for all your advice, and for locating some of the occurences of LEVELL (+var). It is very much appreciated. If I wanted to look for a birth in 1886 then, say in one of the S Ireland counties you mention, are any resources for this available on line, or would I have to travel to the area to search? Are S. Irish records availabe, for example, on Ancestry.com or similar? Another lister pointed out that there are no records kept of ferry passengers between England and Ireland, so there still do not seem to be many ways forward here. I guess the best thing to do is join the appropriate lists, as you suggest. Thanks again for your help, Jan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: <IRELAND-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:59 AM Subject: [Irish-Roots] THE IRISH RESEARCH QUESTION-LEVELL-HAVILAND > > > Looking at the names listed > Haviland-Havlin and Levell > > The surname Levell appears after 1864 in Armagh-Co Down and Antrim > And under the spelling of Level and the variants there of > Level in Co Down in the parish of Drumbo > > Laval/Lavalle/Lavel > > Laval shows there is four households in Galway in he parish of Annaghdown > > Under Lavalle Cork city has 2 households in the parish of St Nicholas > and Mayo 1 household in the parish of Kilmeena > > Under Lavel their is one household inLouth in the parish of Faughart > and one in Meath in the parish of Kilmainham > > I could no find a common bond between the name Levell and Wittey as I > actually see this would most likely be a variant of Whitty which is a > southern Ireland name although it will of course appear elsewhere.

hello i too am having trouble finding details of my ancesters in ireland i am looking for mcintyres i think from macosquin, we have details of a william mcintyre born 1842 in macosquin i can find no other details regards irene