Have you had a look at Griffiths Valuation? Its a fairly uncommon name so you may get some hints from Griffiths. Kaye Vernon See the first program in new Irish Series on genealogy at www.bananatv.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mamie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:33 AM Subject: [IRL~ROOTS] newbie to list-Jorgensen to Texas > I have been in the background, trying to learn about the Ireland Roots list. > I know absolutely nothing about Ireland, or its people, so I have lots to > learn about. I hope I don't sound completely stupid, but how does one > determine of what part of Ireland a name comes from? Did one family, and > their children's children, of one name always stay in one spot?? > My husband's maternal Grandfather and Grandmother were immigrants from > Ireland in 1907, according to the 1910 USA census of Beaumont, Texas. The > census also says they married that same year. > Their names were Anton and Johanna Jorgenson. Anton was born ca. 1882 in > Ireland, unknown place. Johanna, last name unknown, born ca 1890 in > Ireland, unknown place. > I can not find them on a ship's list at all. > They had a daughter Edith Ruth Jorgenson born USA 1909--the mother Johanna > died in 1910-13, and family told that Anton returned to his homeland after > putting the child up for adoption. I have all the USA data that I can find, > but I do not know how or where to go to try and find out about them. > Mamie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Williams" <[email protected]> > Hi Carol, > Bradley is a Derry/Donegal name > In Griffiths (1864) there are > In Derry/Londonderry 397 families of Bradley > In Donegal 243 familes of Bradley > In Tyrone 186 familes of Bradley > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Raise both hands and repeat after me: > We will not initiate or participate in any discussions about any kind of VIRUS or SPAM messages on this list. > To do so will result in your removal from the list. >

Thank you very much, hope I can get it at my library. If anyone has any other suggestions on starting an Ireland research please feel free to email me. [email protected] Mamie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri Garvey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [IRL~ROOTS] newbie to list-Jorgensen to Texas The Griffiths is available on CD through http://www.genealogy.com I don't know the price off-hand. Kerri --- Mamie <[email protected]> wrote: > Is that a book to look at, maybe see at the library, > or online? > Mamie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kaye vernon" <[email protected]> > Have you had a look at Griffiths Valuation? Its a > fairly uncommon name so > you may get some hints from Griffiths. > Kaye Vernon > See the first program in new Irish Series on > genealogy at www.bananatv.com > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Raise both hands and repeat after me: > We will not initiate or participate in any > discussions about any kind of VIRUS or SPAM messages > on this list. > To do so will result in your removal from the list. > ===== Kerri Elizabeth Garvey http://www.geocities.com/eirelady99 http://www.geocities.com/eirelady99/garvey http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lukomski ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We stand united ... God Bless the USA!! __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Check out the sister sites to this mailing list at the links shown below: Boards > Topics > Immigration > United States > Irish immigrants http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=an&p=topics.immigration.us.iri sh & Boards > Topics > Ethnic / Race > Irish http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.irish & Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and Ireland > General http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.britisles.gene ral

Hello everyone, I have a disk that is the Parish Records for Antrim, Down, and Louth Counties in Ireland. The disk has records for these counties from around 1538 to 1837. Most of the records in this cd are cemetery transcriptions. Let me know if I can look up anything for anyone..... Debbie

Hi Mamie & everyone, I can really relate to everything that you have said! I'm new to this list too. I've found as much info as I could in America & I've finally gotten to the folks who came from Ireland. I don't know for a fact what counties they came from. I have years. I know what family members have said but no documentation. so how do I find them? Is there a particular starting place anyone would recommend? thanks, Bernadette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mamie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:33 PM Subject: [IRL~ROOTS] newbie to list-Jorgensen to Texas > I have been in the background, trying to learn about the Ireland Roots list. > I know absolutely nothing about Ireland, or its people, so I have lots to > learn about. I hope I don't sound completely stupid, but how does one > determine of what part of Ireland a name comes from? Did one family, and > their children's children, of one name always stay in one spot?? > My husband's maternal Grandfather and Grandmother were immigrants from > Ireland in 1907, according to the 1910 USA census of Beaumont, Texas. The > census also says they married that same year. > Their names were Anton and Johanna Jorgenson. Anton was born ca. 1882 in > Ireland, unknown place. Johanna, last name unknown, born ca 1890 in > Ireland, unknown place. > I can not find them on a ship's list at all. > They had a daughter Edith Ruth Jorgenson born USA 1909--the mother Johanna > died in 1910-13, and family told that Anton returned to his homeland after > putting the child up for adoption. I have all the USA data that I can find, > but I do not know how or where to go to try and find out about them. > Mamie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Williams" <[email protected]> > Hi Carol, > Bradley is a Derry/Donegal name > In Griffiths (1864) there are > In Derry/Londonderry 397 families of Bradley > In Donegal 243 familes of Bradley > In Tyrone 186 familes of Bradley > > ______________________________

Hi Carol, Bradley is a Derry/Donegal name In Griffiths (1864) there are In Derry/Londonderry 397 families of Bradley In Donegal 243 familes of Bradley In Tyrone 186 familes of Bradley I see only one Owen Bradley as a child aged 4 in 1851 County Tyrone Barony of Upper Strabane Parish of Bodoney Upper Townland of Drumnaspar Lower Bradley Michael head no age given Bradley Mary Ann wife nee Morris Bradley Patrick, son age 8 Bradley Thomas ,son age 6 Bradley Owen ,son aged 4 Bradley Hanna daughter age 2 This may help Best regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "C Deckers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:12 AM Subject: [IRL~ROOTS] 1851 census > I would like to check the 1851 census for my Owen Broadley/Bradley ancestor and I was wondering if anyone knows what part of Ireland the names come from, this information would help me narrow down my search. > Sincerely, > Carol Deckers > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Check out the sister sites to this mailing list at the links shown below: > Boards > Topics > Immigration > United States > Irish immigrants > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=an&p=topics.immigration.us.iri sh > & > Boards > Topics > Ethnic / Race > Irish > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.irish > & > Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and Ireland > General > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.britisles.gene ral >

Is that a book to look at, maybe see at the library, or online? Mamie ----- Original Message ----- From: "kaye vernon" <[email protected]> Have you had a look at Griffiths Valuation? Its a fairly uncommon name so you may get some hints from Griffiths. Kaye Vernon See the first program in new Irish Series on genealogy at www.bananatv.com

Hi Robert, Thank you for the reply I appreciate you help. Now I have some idea as to where to begin my search. Sincerely, Carol Deckers ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Williams <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [IRL~ROOTS] 1851 census > Hi Carol, > Bradley is a Derry/Donegal name > > In Griffiths (1864) there are > In Derry/Londonderry 397 families of Bradley > In Donegal 243 familes of Bradley > In Tyrone 186 familes of Bradley > > > I see only one Owen Bradley as a child aged 4 in 1851 > > County Tyrone > Barony of Upper Strabane > Parish of Bodoney Upper > Townland of Drumnaspar Lower > > Bradley Michael head no age given > Bradley Mary Ann wife nee Morris > Bradley Patrick, son age 8 > Bradley Thomas ,son age 6 > Bradley Owen ,son aged 4 > Bradley Hanna daughter age 2 > > This may help > > Best regards > Robert > www.ulsterancestry.com > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "C Deckers" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:12 AM > Subject: [IRL~ROOTS] 1851 census > > > > I would like to check the 1851 census for my Owen Broadley/Bradley > ancestor and I was wondering if anyone knows what part of Ireland the names > come from, this information would help me narrow down my search. > > Sincerely, > > Carol Deckers > > > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Check out the sister sites to this mailing list at the links shown below: > > Boards > Topics > Immigration > United States > Irish immigrants > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=an&p=topics.immigration.us.iri > sh > > & > > Boards > Topics > Ethnic / Race > Irish > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.irish > > & > > Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and Ireland > General > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.britisles.gene > ral > > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Raise both hands and repeat after me: > We will not initiate or participate in any discussions about any kind of VIRUS or SPAM messages on this list. > To do so will result in your removal from the list. > > >

The Griffiths is available on CD through http://www.genealogy.com I don't know the price off-hand. Kerri --- Mamie <[email protected]> wrote: > Is that a book to look at, maybe see at the library, > or online? > Mamie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kaye vernon" <[email protected]> > Have you had a look at Griffiths Valuation? Its a > fairly uncommon name so > you may get some hints from Griffiths. > Kaye Vernon > See the first program in new Irish Series on > genealogy at www.bananatv.com > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Raise both hands and repeat after me: > We will not initiate or participate in any > discussions about any kind of VIRUS or SPAM messages > on this list. > To do so will result in your removal from the list. > ===== Kerri Elizabeth Garvey http://www.geocities.com/eirelady99 http://www.geocities.com/eirelady99/garvey http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lukomski ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We stand united ... God Bless the USA!! __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com

Hi everyone The following records have been added to the Lurgan Ancestry website. www.lurganancestry.net 1. Lurgan people who died during WW2. 1939 to 1945 (approx. 100 names) 2. Lurgan People who died during WW1, 1914 to 1918 (approx 300 names) 3. Rental list for Brownlow's Derry 1763-66 (approx 100 names) 4. Rental list for Lurgan town 1763-1766. (approx. 400 names). Regards Martin McGoldrick. Lurgan Ancestry.

I have been in the background, trying to learn about the Ireland Roots list. I know absolutely nothing about Ireland, or its people, so I have lots to learn about. I hope I don't sound completely stupid, but how does one determine of what part of Ireland a name comes from? Did one family, and their children's children, of one name always stay in one spot?? My husband's maternal Grandfather and Grandmother were immigrants from Ireland in 1907, according to the 1910 USA census of Beaumont, Texas. The census also says they married that same year. Their names were Anton and Johanna Jorgenson. Anton was born ca. 1882 in Ireland, unknown place. Johanna, last name unknown, born ca 1890 in Ireland, unknown place. I can not find them on a ship's list at all. They had a daughter Edith Ruth Jorgenson born USA 1909--the mother Johanna died in 1910-13, and family told that Anton returned to his homeland after putting the child up for adoption. I have all the USA data that I can find, but I do not know how or where to go to try and find out about them. Mamie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Williams" <[email protected]> Hi Carol, Bradley is a Derry/Donegal name In Griffiths (1864) there are In Derry/Londonderry 397 families of Bradley In Donegal 243 familes of Bradley In Tyrone 186 familes of Bradley

I am looking for the following surnames that immigrated to the USA in the 1700's and earlier: ALLRED, BAGGETT, BECK, BETTIS, BUSH, BUTLER, CARTER, DAVIS, ELLIOT, HARRISON, HEATH, HINES, LOTT, McCLAIN, PARKER, PEACOCK, PERRY, REDD, SANDERS, SATCHER, SHIVER, SULLIVAN, USSERY, WALKER, WATSON, WEAVER, WHITTLE, & WRIGHT

Cara I'm sure that civil registration was happening at that time. you should be able to apply to the bdm of the area for that. Kaye See the first program in new Irish Series on genealogy at www.bananatv.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [IRL~ROOTS] Birth Records for 1885? > Perhaps it is a case of an Unregistered birth or perhaps he was not > registered as Walter .......lots of things make things hard to find people > in Ireland there lack of concern about registration for one ........ > > The way people wrote things down > Its a series of things that make it a twisted maze to chase these ancestors > down and locate them dont give up someone has the answer some where. > > cheers > cara > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:03 PM > Subject: [IRL~ROOTS] Birth Records for 1885? > > > > Hello, > > > > I was hoping someone can tell me why I can not find information on my > great > > grandfather, Walter Flack. He was born on November 30, 1885, in Dromore, > > Down, Ireland. I have been all over the LDS site and ancestry.com. Then > last > > Thursday I went to our local family history center and their index for > births > > for Ireland had an "*" in the space for births from 1882-1889, and a > notation > > that said "This genealogical society does not have records for these > years" > > Do they not exist? Or is there a place I have not checked yet? I am hoping > > there is a great magical site that lists all BMD's for this county, as I > have > > many ancesters from there, VBG. > > > > Any help anyone can give me is greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks so much > > > > Lisa Wagner > > > > Researching: > > Flack > > Martin > > Mahood > > Lyle > > Castle > > Bannatyne > > > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Raise both hands and repeat after me: > > We will not initiate or participate in any discussions about any kind of > VIRUS or SPAM messages on this list. > > To do so will result in your removal from the list. > > > > > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Raise both hands and repeat after me: > We will not initiate or participate in any discussions about any kind of VIRUS or SPAM messages on this list. > To do so will result in your removal from the list. > >

Perhaps it is a case of an Unregistered birth or perhaps he was not registered as Walter .......lots of things make things hard to find people in Ireland there lack of concern about registration for one ........ The way people wrote things down Its a series of things that make it a twisted maze to chase these ancestors down and locate them dont give up someone has the answer some where. cheers cara ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:03 PM Subject: [IRL~ROOTS] Birth Records for 1885? > Hello, > > I was hoping someone can tell me why I can not find information on my great > grandfather, Walter Flack. He was born on November 30, 1885, in Dromore, > Down, Ireland. I have been all over the LDS site and ancestry.com. Then last > Thursday I went to our local family history center and their index for births > for Ireland had an "*" in the space for births from 1882-1889, and a notation > that said "This genealogical society does not have records for these years" > Do they not exist? Or is there a place I have not checked yet? I am hoping > there is a great magical site that lists all BMD's for this county, as I have > many ancesters from there, VBG. > > Any help anyone can give me is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks so much > > Lisa Wagner > > Researching: > Flack > Martin > Mahood > Lyle > Castle > Bannatyne > > > ==== IRELAND-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Raise both hands and repeat after me: > We will not initiate or participate in any discussions about any kind of VIRUS or SPAM messages on this list. > To do so will result in your removal from the list. > >

I would like to check the 1851 census for my Owen Broadley/Bradley ancestor and I was wondering if anyone knows what part of Ireland the names come from, this information would help me narrow down my search. Sincerely, Carol Deckers

I am new to the list. Looking for Owen Bradley/Broadley born circa 1829 somewhere in Ireland. Also Hugh Broadley who married a woman by the name of Agnes. Would appreciate hearing form anyone who is researching this name, as I have come to a brick wall trying to find them in Ireland. I even went to the expense of hiring a researcher who came back blank. Would appreciate any suggestions or information about what to do next. Sincerely, Carol Deckers

Hello, I'm trying to find information on some of my ancestors! I have a James Anglin, and I found info on the Morman website, that states he was born about 1718 in Donerail, Diocese Of Cloyne, Co. Cork Ireland. It has that he was married to a Mary Lindsey, who was born in 1722 same place It states they were married there in 1743. They immigrated to the U.S., late 1740's or early 1750's. Would anyone have any information on these two people? Thank you very much. Becky Carden, [email protected]

Hi Pam, What is Proni? I am fairly new to international geneology. Thannks so much for your help Lisa Wagner greensboro, NC

Hi You may want to contact PRONI to see if they have any church records for that period for that area. do you know religion and likely churches - some of the churches hold the record themselves. when all records had to be sent to Dublin pre 1921 many of the churches took a copy of the records so you need to pursue which church and where those records are and why that 7 year gap? Hope this helps Pam

H I LISA THE FIRE OF 1922 DESTROYED A LOT OF RECORDS Mary

Hello, I was hoping someone can tell me why I can not find information on my great grandfather, Walter Flack. He was born on November 30, 1885, in Dromore, Down, Ireland. I have been all over the LDS site and ancestry.com. Then last Thursday I went to our local family history center and their index for births for Ireland had an "*" in the space for births from 1882-1889, and a notation that said "This genealogical society does not have records for these years" Do they not exist? Or is there a place I have not checked yet? I am hoping there is a great magical site that lists all BMD's for this county, as I have many ancesters from there, VBG. Any help anyone can give me is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much Lisa Wagner Researching: Flack Martin Mahood Lyle Castle Bannatyne