On 11 Jun 2005 at 14:17, rbbtfarm wrote: > My Irish immigrants were .......Joseph FULTON and Winnifred > "Winnie/Winney (nee BROWN, we believe) from Belfast, Antrim > IRE. We know that the third child was born in the US, IL, as > were the other younger children. That would put their > immigration about 1860. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated...... Tricia M. Tricia, I don't have info on your Brown[e] family, but have you hunted for their immigration records in filmed indexes? There are indexes to ships passenger lists for most ports for the time period of interest to you. You can get a list of film numbers (NARA & FHC) at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nara_indexbyport.shtml Scroll down to the state you want and click on the link, then find the film # you need, then decide whether to order it in to a nearby FHC or have NARA do a lookup. The staff of the National Archives will undertake a search of the original records for a fee. To find your nearest FHC you can go to http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp There are some ideas for researching hard to find ancestors on ships lists after 1820 at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/usaaft1820.shtml You might also want to try naturalization records, if you need to narrow your time span for looking. There are great clues in the 1870 census! If your ancestor has a check mark in the column "Male Citizens of the United States of twenty-one years of age and upwards" you have a clue that naturalization took place before 1870 :-) There is an explanation and Resource Guide to Naturalization Records at http://naturalizationrecords.com/ For a Resource Guide to the records, what you can expect to find, where to find them, and alternate sources of finding those important years (immigration and naturalization) at http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/ There are also many links to searchable online naturalization records. Choose your state of interest from the list at the bottom of the page then click on ONLINE records. Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ [email protected] or [email protected]