These film numbers are greatly apprciated as I tried to order the book but they would not send it to our Family History Office. Other records I tried to obtain but would not send :Presbyterian Church records and some Apprentice records. Thanks Van ----- Original Message ----- From: "ConnorsGenealogy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 11:45 AM Subject: [ROLL CALL] Re: [IRELAND] RESOURCE - Irish Pension Search > from, Discovering Your Irish Ancestors, by Dwight Radford & Kyle Betit > > Census searches for old age pension applications: There is a lot of > potential in this set of records. Old age pensions were introduced in > Ireland in 1908. To prove how old they were, people seventy and over > could request a search of the then-surviving 1841 and 1851 censuses. > > Applicants could send their requests directly to the PRO in Dublin where > the staff extracted the information from the censuses. Abstracts of the > census entries showing the applicants were noted on census search forms > between 1910 and 1922. The "Census Search Forms" are now arranged at > the National Archives of Ireland by county, barony, civil parish and > townland. > > In Northern Ireland, they also make a request to the PRO by a local > pension office for a search of the 1841 and 1851 censuses. The > resulting "Form 37s" survive for large areas of Ulster and are held at > the PRONI, with microfilm copies at the LDS Family History Library. > > Josephine Materson produced two books, "Ireland: 1841/1851 Census > Abstracts (Northern Ireland)" and "Ireland: 1841/1851 Census Abstracts > (Republic of Ireland), which indexed the forms. > > Census Search Forms and Form 37s might include extracts of the entire > household in 1841 and 1851 census. So, even if an applicant was not > your ancestor, you might get information not only on the person who > applied for the search, but also on brothers, sisters and parents who > might include your ancestor. > > LDS films for Northern Ireland numbers start with 258526. > > Index to Old Age Pension claims from 1841/1851 census abstracts and > miscellaneous sources. Fiche no. 1 of the set is an introduction to the > claims and a guide to the names index. # 6344865 > > I couldn't find the LDS film numbers for the Republic, if anyone can > find them, please post to the list. > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus > > > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS Mailing List ==== > Remember: This is NOT a discussion group. If you would like to join an Ireland discussion list: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRELAND.html >

from, Discovering Your Irish Ancestors, by Dwight Radford & Kyle Betit Census searches for old age pension applications: There is a lot of potential in this set of records. Old age pensions were introduced in Ireland in 1908. To prove how old they were, people seventy and over could request a search of the then-surviving 1841 and 1851 censuses. Applicants could send their requests directly to the PRO in Dublin where the staff extracted the information from the censuses. Abstracts of the census entries showing the applicants were noted on census search forms between 1910 and 1922. The "Census Search Forms" are now arranged at the National Archives of Ireland by county, barony, civil parish and townland. In Northern Ireland, they also make a request to the PRO by a local pension office for a search of the 1841 and 1851 censuses. The resulting "Form 37s" survive for large areas of Ulster and are held at the PRONI, with microfilm copies at the LDS Family History Library. Josephine Materson produced two books, "Ireland: 1841/1851 Census Abstracts (Northern Ireland)" and "Ireland: 1841/1851 Census Abstracts (Republic of Ireland), which indexed the forms. Census Search Forms and Form 37s might include extracts of the entire household in 1841 and 1851 census. So, even if an applicant was not your ancestor, you might get information not only on the person who applied for the search, but also on brothers, sisters and parents who might include your ancestor. LDS films for Northern Ireland numbers start with 258526. Index to Old Age Pension claims from 1841/1851 census abstracts and miscellaneous sources. Fiche no. 1 of the set is an introduction to the claims and a guide to the names index. # 6344865 I couldn't find the LDS film numbers for the Republic, if anyone can find them, please post to the list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus

Hi! There is both a St Aloysius at Rose Street, Garnet Hill, Glasgow and a St Alphonsus at London Road, Glasgow [The Barra's church] . If you want more information try : _www.glasgowchurches.org.uk_ (http://www.glasgowchurches.org.uk) All the best Helenor - now in South wales.

Hi Carolyn, Where is the St.Alphonse Church in Glasgow? could it have been St.Aloysius? if so it is still there. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "ostonesfun" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:14 AM Subject: [ROLL CALL] SARSFIELD > Michael SARSFIELD was born somewhere in Ireland probably about 1800-1810. Sometime before 1838 also in Ireland, Michael was married to Mary RILEY. Both Michael and Mary were deceased prior to 1857. > One known son is Thomas SARSFIELD. Thomas was born about 1838 somewhere in Ireland. On 15 Jun 1857 in Glasgow, Scotland (probably St Alphonse Chapel), Thomas was married to Anna McDONALD. > > Need Ireland location for Michael SARSFIELD. > > Thanks, Carolyn (Texas, USA) > > > ==== IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS Mailing List ==== > Remember: This is NOT a discussion group. If you would like to join an Ireland discussion list: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRELAND.html >

George McDONALD was born somewhere in Ireland probably about 1810. Sometime before 1840, also in Ireland, George was married to Mary (Bridget) WELSH. One known daughter of this couple is Ann McDONALD. Ann was born about 1840 somewhere in Ireland. On 15 Jun 1857 Ann was married to Thomas SARSFIELD in Glasgow, Scotland (probably at St Alphonse Chapel). Need Ireland location for George McDonald and family. Thanks, Carolyn (Texas, USA)

Michael SARSFIELD was born somewhere in Ireland probably about 1800-1810. Sometime before 1838 also in Ireland, Michael was married to Mary RILEY. Both Michael and Mary were deceased prior to 1857. One known son is Thomas SARSFIELD. Thomas was born about 1838 somewhere in Ireland. On 15 Jun 1857 in Glasgow, Scotland (probably St Alphonse Chapel), Thomas was married to Anna McDONALD. Need Ireland location for Michael SARSFIELD. Thanks, Carolyn (Texas, USA)

Patrick CORBETT was born somewhere in Ireland probably about 1800-1810. He married Mary WELSH probably in Ireland sometime before 1838. Both Patrick and Mary were deceased before 1866. This couple had one known son, Michael. There was also probably a daughter named Mary. Michael CORBETT was born somewhere in Ireland ca 1838-1843. On 22 Jan 1866 in Glasgow, Scotland Michael married Mary GIBBONS. Need Ireland location for this family Thanks, Carolyn (Texas, USA)

Margaret: Any chance there is a Folan marriage listed?

In researching my Foleys from County Clare I have found a Riordan link. My great great grandmother Elizabeth FOLEY (married surname - born 1832) was the daughter of a John CAHILL and a mother Mary RIORDAN both from Clare. I am in the process of obtaining civil war pension information on Elizabeth's husband which should pinpoint an area in Clare for me to focus my search. Where do your Riordans originate from? Meg

Hi i'm looking for any information on the name McMeekin in Co Antrim. I don't have alot to go on. My grandmother Jean (Jane) McMeekin Born *1904 could be earlier.( can't find birth certificate only a possible one in 1897 father william John McMeekin birth reg in Belfast) Marriage 6th April 1931 Ballyclare, Grange of Doagh, Co Antrim, to Edward Horgan (Edward and his brother were from Nantymoel,Glamorganshire,Wales) Jean McMeekin ,age full, Spinster, 45 Main street Ballyclare Co Antrim, Father John McMeekin, Paper Maker Witnesses: Fredrick Horgan (grooms brother), Flora McMeekin (brides Sister) Jane(jean) Horgan(McMeekin) died 13th January 1937 Forster Green Hospital age 33, registered Ballylesson, Lisburn, by John McMeekin Brother,of 482 Cregagh Rd Belfast John McMeekin Father of above died April 1947 at Comber, age 77, widow, registered by Charles Richardson husband of Flora McMeekin, Comber Newtownards. Those are the facts i have, only other information is from my fathers memory who was only 4 when mother died and was shipped to England to live with Fathers sister, and never heard from mothers family again. John McMeekin's wife thought to be ? Henderson before marriage, As my father was told he was named after his grandmothers brother therefore grandmothers brothers name Robert Henderson. said to be a Taylor in Ballyclare in the 1930's. Jane(Jean) had 2 brothers John and Robert McMeekin. And 2 sisters Flora and Greta McMeekin. The family are not at 45 main street,Ballyclare in the 1911 census. I really do not know where to look now,If anyone can help or give me some suggestions as to what to do next please do. Regards Shirley-Ann Horgan HYPERLINK "mailto:[email protected]"[email protected] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.6 - Release Date: 27/01/2005

Hello all I am new to the list and pleased to have found it I am looking for those who may have interests in the names above in Co. Limerick - both in Limerick city and Bally brown and Patrickswell I have some research also on Riordan My mother inlaw came from Limerick, she is now 80 and well in Lancashire, with one brother left in Ireland. Anyone with interests, please let me know Dawn

Thank you, Margaret. I am researching the Galway family of Flannery; any references woud be appreciated. Cheers, Jude Subject: [ROLL CALL] Marriages/of Tuam 1821-29 > Hi, I have several pages of marriages in the RC Diocese of Tuam, 1821-1829, > Co Mayo, Co Galway, and part of Co Roscommon. Will do look ups for these > names,Fitzpatrick, Flaherty, Flahilly, Flanagan, Flanegan, Flanigan,Flannelly, > Flannery,Flatly, Flattelly, Fleming, , Fitzmaurice. > > Margaret >

Hi, I have several pages of marriages in the RC Diocese of Tuam, 1821-1829, Co Mayo, Co Galway, and part of Co Roscommon. Will do look ups for these names,Fitzpatrick, Flaherty, Flahilly, Flanagan, Flanegan, Flanigan,Flannelly, Flannery,Flatly, Flattelly, Fleming, , Fitzmaurice. Margaret

Greetings , McKENZIE - O'NEIL - SULLIVAN - SHEEHAN - MADDEN BRICKWALL : Data is from US census, church & vital records. All US records just indicate Ireland (Ire) as place of birth / origin (PLB). No Ire civil records have been located. Ire church records yield no results to present. Oral family history indicates Co. Fermanagh as POB. OBJECTIVE : To identify my McKENZIE family civil parish, townland, and/or church parish via family forenames*Daniel*(Head),*Margaret*(Wife), *Elizabeth*, *John*, *Francis* (Frank) & *Joseph*. Other children unknown but possible ? GOAL : To eventually locate / obtain Ire church records. ANCESTOR : Daniel McKenzie, my gg grandfather, b.c. 1810-25 & d.c. 1855-75 Ire. MARRIAGE : Margaret Miller (Millar, Meuller) m.c. 1840 Ire. CHILDREN : Elizabeth b. June 1841 Ire ; Never m. ; To US (Boston) 1895. John b. Aug. 1848 Ire : To US (Boston) 1872 : m. 1874. Other children possible. MIGRATION : Surnames came into use during the 12th century. The MacKenzie Clans originated in the 13th century with Kenneth. MacKenzie (Gaelic-MacCoinneach) is derived from Son of Kenneth. Along with MacDonald (Battle Blair-na-park 1466), Stuart & MacLeod etc, the MacKenzie Clans gain importance across Scotland in the 15th century. Pre-1800 MacKenzie research indicate origin in NW Scotland (Scot) Ross / Cromarty & Inverness areas. The first McKenzie (not Mac) in Scot appeared c. 1568 and in Ire b. 1698 a Rev John McKenzie(Presbytr.) of Cookstown, Tyrone. Migration across the North Channel around 1650-80 to No. Ire Ulster Derry / Antrim. Catholic McKenzie in Ire first appeared, a John McKenzie b.c 1783 in Sligo and a John McKenzie b.c. 1824 in Quinn, Clare. CHURCH : Ire / Scot history of McKenzie / Miller suggest Protestant. However, US m., old age home, d. & cemetery records strongly suggest Catholic as the US family is today. OTHER : Daniel parents are unknown. Other family forenames 1850-90 are James Loyd b.c. 1848 Ire / m. 1874 Eng : George Thomas b. Mar. 1888 Eng / To US 1907. Daniel likely had a brother (or 1st cousin) named John who was James father. TIA with kind regards , Walt-Boston & NJ-US [email protected] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.4 - Release Date: 1/25/2005

Annie NICHOLL (John) was born June 4, 1867 in Craignageeragh, Co. Antrim, Ireland, and died 1906 in Ballymena, Ireland. She married William LEITH farmer of Slaght, Connor, Antrim on July 17, 1891 in Cullybackey, Antrim Co., North Ireland, son of Samuel LEITH and Margaret CRAIG. (There witnesses were Elizabeth LEITH and Johnston NICHOLL) Children of Annie Nicholl and William Leith are: 6 i. Maggie Craig3 LEITH, born August 6, 1892 in Ahoghill, Ballymena, Co. Antrim, N. Ireland; died May 24, 1957 in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. She married Charles Gilbert TRACY October 12, 1914 in Kenora, Ontario, Canada. 7 ii. Rachael (Rae) Johnston LEITH, born March 29, 1894 Ahoghill, Ballymena, Co. Antrim. She married Frank ROBERTS. 8 iii. Jean (Jane) LEITH, born May 18, 1895 Co, Antrim. She married Jack WALLACE. 9 iv. Maude LEITH, born 1897, Co. Antrim. She married Alec HUME. 10 v. Sarah (Sadie) LEITH, born October 29, 1899, Co. Antrim. She married ? MILLIER. 11 vi. Annie Nicholl LEITH, born September 1, 1901, Co. Antrim. She married Henry HEAPPY. 12 vii. Samuel LEITH, born March 12, 1904, Co. Antrim. He married Betty ?. 13 viii. Robert LEITH, born March 12, 1904, Co. Antrim died in infancy. The LEITH name of my family was originally from Scotland and from what my aunts say from the actual town of Leith. I am not sure at what time they went to Ireland nor exactly where they started out in Ireland. I do know they ended up in Antrim Co. Craignageeragh, Craigs, Ahoghill, Ballymena and Belfast, Connor, Drummaul, Kells are areas which are constantly mentioned in my Northern Ireland Leith's. Inter-marriages between Craig, Johnston, Nicholl lines and possibly others. My Leith lines went all over, a few landed in Canada destined on a (british bonus for High Bluff, Manitoba ca 1915), married Tracy and Roberts surnames; another went to Australia, and a few to New Zealand in the 1915-20 period I believe. The ones going to Australia and New Zealand married in New Zealand and Australia but of people they new from Antrim. I know in all areas where my Leith's immigrated there were relatives, cousins and aunts or uncles. Unfortunately, my aunt who knew most and had letters, died. I am interested in finding my Irish ancestors as well as my cousins abroad. Thanks, Sandra Tracy

Seeking info on the family of Michael McDermott of Kildare, b Jan.1849. Parents were John McDermott and Anna Regan. Michael immg in 1875 to the USA, married Bridget Cleary 1859 at New Britain Connecticut, d Aug. 1935. Bernard McDermott (possb`l brother) b March 1850 , immg 1870, m Mary Menogue Nov.1872 at New Haven, Ct. d July 1917. Margaret

Seeking info on the family of Mary Flaherty b Jan.1834 in Ire. Immg 1853 to the US, m Oct.1859 David Clary (vars) at New Britain, Connecticut, died April 1902, parents Maurice Flaherty and Mary?. John Flaherty b ca 1825 Ire. m June 1854 Bridget Gunning at New Britain, Ct. Edmund Flaherty aka Edward b Jan. 1841 Co Kerry, father John Flaherty, m June 1857 Bridget Dower at New Britain, Ct Richard Flaherty b ca 1838 Ire, m Aug.1858 Ann Casey at New Britain, Ct d March 1908. Other name of interest, McDermott.

I had a relative in Philadelphia and his O'Flaherty's were from Kilkenny. The name went to Flaherty and then Laherty. Sometime in the 20's somehow (via the government) it became Larthey. Their son died in France in WWII. The Government came to Mr. Larthey and insisted the name be changed back to Laherty. He refused and said his son died for the U.S.A. with the name Larthey and he would not change it. Nancy > Hi List, > > This made me think of my SIL. She married a FLEEHARTY, but supposedly the > original name was O'FLAHARTY. How, when, or why it was changed, no one seems > to know. Just wondered if anyone else had this happen......... Tricia M. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 6:44 AM > Subject: [ROLL CALL] Clary/Cleary etc > > > > Seeking info on David Clary/Cleary b 1839 somewhere in Ire, immg to US > > in1851 settled in New Britain, Connecticut, married Mary Flaherty > > Oct.23,1859. > > death record not found, said to have been killed by a run away horse and > > carriage.. Possibly had a brother Daniel. Thanks all. > > > > Margaret > > > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubcribe from L: mailto:[email protected] > > To Unsubscribe from D: mailto:[email protected] > > Put the single word 'unsubscribe' in the message subject and body > > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the Ireland Roll Calls Mailing List > Remember: One surname per post, nothing else in subject line > Search the list's archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ireland-roll-calls >

Pete. How do you know the RC parishes? I'm looking for the RC parish that would be closest to Stonetown, Galway. Is that in the Tuam diocese? Thanks, Pat in St. Louis

I have updated the Ireland GenWeb County Tipperary websites. Some additions include new pictures, links, Tithe Applotments and Griffith's Valuation records, webpages for Bruis, Lattin, Brickendown and Templeneiry civil parish, plus some updating on the Solloghod-beg, Solloghog-More and Templenoe civil parish webpages. The following townland pages were either added or updated: Ardane, Ashgrove, Ballagh, Ballinlough East & West, Ballydavid, Vallyviggane, Ballyvirane, Bansha East & West, Barnlough, Booleen, Clashoquirk, Clohernagh, Coolgort, Coologe, Curraghavoke, Fihertagh, Foxfort, Lismacue, Montanavoe, Pollagh, Rathdermot, Rossadrehid, Bansha Town, Killea, Thurles Town, Ballyporeen Town, Ballinunty Town, Lattin East & North & West, Kilpatrick, Annfield, Nenagh, Carrick on Suir Town, Moheragh, Carrigaloe, Shinganagh, Brickendown, Killistafford, Meldrum, Ardavullane, Ballynahow, Ballynamrossagh, Bruis, Farranacliff, Rathkea, Shronell, Shrough, Toor, Ballynagleragh, Ballynadruckilly, Clerkstown, Kilpatrick, Kilross, Knockordan, Lisduff, Mooresfort You can access the website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip/tipperary.htm If you have corrections, additions, and/or questions about this website, please contact me off list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus