Thanks Pat & Eddie for the interesting reading.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ConnorsGenealogy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 6:00 AM Subject: [ROLL CALL] County Waterford info > Today, I received this from Eddie Cantwell who is doing great work > transcribing various records from County Waterford. > > P.Greetings from the Sunny South East of the old sod! > just to tell you that I have completed...I think! griffiths Valuations for > Abbeyside Dungarvan Co, Waterford, they will be of interest to people with > roots in this area..I am about to tackle the 1901 & 1911 census, I will > post these over a number of weeks. All will be found at our free blog > site(poor people!) www.abbeysidereferencearchive.blogspot.com > <http://www.abbeysidereferencearchive.blogspot.com> > If I can be of any help to people Re: same they can contact me. > Kindest regards > Eddie > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus > > > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the Ireland Roll Calls Mailing List > Search the list's archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ireland-roll-calls > >

James O'Donnell I believe he was from County Donegal. I only know that he married Susan "White" Doherty. They had children: John dob Nov 21, 1868, Neal dob Feb 15, 1871, Mary Ann(who became my grandmother) dob July 28, 1873, Margaret(Maggie) dob Nov 27, 1875, Denis dob Feb 8, 1878, and Philip dob 1880. I think that most if not all the family emigrated to the USA on the SS Austrian in 1896. I am not sure where James and Susan settled, but Mary Ann stayed in Boston, as did Denis. I believe the children were born in or around Carndonagh, County Donegal. Mary Ann married Patrick Bradley on April 17, 1902, at St Peters in Dorchester Ma . They would have 6 children: Susan,Helen,Margaret,Mary-Rita,James, and Theresa between 1904-1912 or so.. Mary Ann died in Salem Ma on Nov 20, 1958, Patrick had died March 14, 1931 also in Salem. But its Marys Anne parents I am most interested in here. Where were they married, who there families were. If there are any decendents of these folks still in Ireland. Thank you Barbara [email protected]

The Ireland GenWeb County Mayo website has been updated. A new webpage has been created for the Kilgeever Civil Parish. The following townlands have either been added or updated: Aghany, Aillemore, Askillaun, Balloor, Ballybeg Island, Ballyheer, Ballytoohy Beg & More, Barnabaun, Bellakip, Bellavanum, Bunnamohaun, Bunowen, Caher, Caher Island, Calla, Louisburgh Town, Bundorragha Town, Carrowmore (3), Derry (2), Balla Town, Tooreen (2), Uggool (2), Westport Town, Aghagower Town, Sraheens, Callacoon, Capnagower, Carrickavea, Carrickboorla, Carrigskeewaun, Carrowclaggan, Carrownisky, Claggan, Clashcame, Cloonaghmanagh, Clooncarrabaun, Cloonlaur, Cloonty, Corragaun, Corryaughany, Corrydavit, Corrymailley, Ballyhaunis Town, Castlebar Town, Keeloges Town, Craggy, Cregganawoddy, Cregganbaun, Creggannagappul, Creganroe, Cross, Cushinyen, Dadreen, Derreennanalbanagh, Derreennawinshin, Derrygarve Beg & More, Derryheeagh, Derrylahan, Devlin North & South, Dooghtry, Dooneen, Doovilra, Emlagh, Fallduff, Fawnglass, Feenune, Formoyle, Garranty, Glebe, Glen, Glenconnelly, Glencullin, Glenkeen, Glenumnera, Inishdalla, Inishdelilbeg, Inishdelilmore, Kilgeever, Kill, Killadoon, Kinatevdilla, Kinknock, Kinnadoohy, Kinnakillew, Knockeen, Lackakeely, Laghta Eighter & Oughter, Lecarrow, Legan, Lettereeragh, Loughnamucka, Maum, Moneen, Mountain Common, Mweelawn Island, Mweelin, Oldhead, Roonah, Roonkee, Sixnoggins, Srahnacloy, Srahnanagh, Srahnashasky, Srahrevagh, Srahroosky, Srahwee, Strake, Tallavbaun, Tallavbaun Island, Tawnydoogan, Tawnyinlough, Tawnymacken, Tawnynoran, Teevnabinnia, Tonatleva, Tully, Cloonlynchaghaun, Cornamonaster, Ballyclogher. Included in the above pages are associated links, LDS Family History Film numbers, available RC records plus surnames and records that have been contributed by readers. Also when found, Samuel Lewis' 1837 descriptions of the areas plus pictures are included. Other sections of the website that were updated include Surnames, Records and Maps. You can access the website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlmayo/ If you have comments about the website, have records/surnames that you would like to share or if you have a townland you would like to see included, please contact me off list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus

To set the record straight.Don't know if it's because I had posted what had taken place on all of the lists that I belong to.Yesterday afternoon mail,a request form for signature confirmation was delivered,signed and mail picked up. I GOT MY CERTIFICATES!!!!!!!!! All is well and my faith in people is truly restored.And thank you to so many of you who had offered suggestions and any help In the future,I will check things out better but for now I am truly smiling. Thanks again to all for your support Denise.

> Maybe it is marvelous for some, as for me I got " sorry". When searching a townland, using the SeanRuad.com website, one must be creative when getting 'sorry' because how a townland is spelled today, it could have been spelled diferently in 1851. Why not give us the townland name you are using and maybe we can help you. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus

Maybe it is marvelous for some, as for me I got " sorry". My luck ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "ConnorsGenealogy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [ROLL CALL] marrow > Here is a marvelous site to look up places. It is a database formed > from the 1851 Townland index which was a list of townlands from the 1851 > Ireland census. > > http://www.seanruad.com/ > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus > > > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS Mailing List ==== > To Unsubcribe from L: mailto:[email protected] > To Unsubscribe from D: mailto:[email protected] > Put the single word 'unsubscribe' in the message subject and body > >

The Ireland Genealogy Projects County Armagh website has been updated. Webpages for the civil parishes of Killman, Jonesborough, Ballymyre and Clonfeacle have been added. Besides have webpages for all the townlands in these civil parish, the Samuel Lewis 1836 descriptions of the civil parishes are included along with LDS Family History Films and links. The following townland pages have been added and/or updated: Derrymagowan, Mullanary (2), Derrycaw (2), Aghincurk, Ballinatate, Ballintemple, Cavakill, Corlat, Knockavannon, Lurgana, Outleckan, Edenappa, Foughill Etra & Otra, Jonesborough Town, Blackwatertown Town, Ballycullen, Ballytroddan, Creaghan, Drumarn, Drumask, Drumcullen, Kilmore, Lisbofin, Mullyleggan, Shanmullagh, Tiregerty, Tullykevan, Canary, Copney, Derryscollop, Tullyroan, Clonmore, Clontyclay, Derrycorry North & South, Derryhirk, Derryhubbert East & North & South, Mullenakill North & South & West, Loughgall Town, Ballymagerny, Shantally, Silverwood, Markethill Town, Enagh, Damoily, Newtown Hamilton Town, Tullyvallan, Drumnakelly, Seagoe Lower. Other pages updated are Records, Surnames and Land Divisions. If you would like to comment on the site and/or request a townland page, please contact me off list. Also, don't forget to add your surnames to civil pariish and townland pages. You can access the website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirarm2/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus

are u sure not Crowley? catherine -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2005 10:05 a.m. To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ROLL CALL] marrow Could it be Mallow Co Cork? Rik any Crowdle anywhere anywhen please ==== IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS Mailing List ==== Welcome to the Ireland Roll Calls Mailing List Search the list's archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ireland-roll-calls

Could it be Mallow Co Cork? Rik any Crowdle anywhere anywhen please

hi looking for James carroll born Dublin 1823 marriedCatherine White born Marrow Ireland 1824 my gg grandparents cannot find Marrow was it a place or a parish or did the census officer hear Mara mispronounced Terry

Here is a marvelous site to look up places. It is a database formed from the 1851 Townland index which was a list of townlands from the 1851 Ireland census. http://www.seanruad.com/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus

The Ireland Genealogy Project's County Leix website has been updated. A new webpage has been created for the Durrow Civil Parish, with links to all the townlands in the civil parish plus other important links. The following townland pages have either been added or updated: Capponellan, Castledurrow Demesne, Castleview, Castlewood, Clonageera, Grenan (2), Glebe (2), Milltown, Coolcorberry, Coolnabehy, Course, Durrow Town, Dunmore, Durrow Townparks, Fermoyle, Knockanoran, Kylebegs, Loughnamuck, Moyne, Rath, Stewartsgrove, Swan, Tinwear and Clonaslee Town. Other pages updated include: Land Divisions, Surname Registry (thank to Mary Ann Lubinsky), Records and Marriages. You can access the website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus

Hello to all, Below you will see a message that I received from another person in regard to my circumstance of paying a researcher and getting nothing in return. I followed her advice and filed a complaint.Read on,it is very enlightening. And many thanks to all that sent messages in regard to my dilemma. Denise............Original Message Below X-Message: #17 Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:59:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Joy Rich <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Bklyn] Slightly Off-Topic--Paying for a Researcher Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This kind of situation makes reputable professional genealogists cringe. Professional genealogists have a "trade" organization, the Association of Professional Genealogists. http://www.apgen.org/ APG has over 1500 members. If any of its members are in violation of its Code of Ethics, published at http://www.apgen.org/ethics/CodeofEthicsBrochure.pdf, APG wants to be told about it. Contact information for filing a complaint is at http://apgen.org/contacts/index.html. Denise, if the person you did business with is a member of APG, I encourage you to let APG know. If the person isn't an APG member, I encourage you to notify the Better Business Bureau, as you mentioned. Joy Rich Member, APG [email protected] wrote: Hi All, While not wanting (as they say) to bash anyone I'd like to make a couple of comments in regard to paying someone to do research for you. Recently I had the experience of contacting a person on one of the lists that stated they search the Albany Archives on a regular basis. I inquired of the fee and the costs of certificates. Being on a limited income due to disability I agreed to the amount. The person also agreed to allow me to pay the next month for the second certificate I had asked for. To make this long story short. I got no certificates. They had excuse after excuse. They even had different numbers on the certificate for reference in all of my e-mails. Now I'm mad, leary and embarrassed all at the same time as well as being out $75. Mad as heck because someone took advantage of my trust in people, Leary of ever trying to pay a researcher again and embarrassed that I don't or didn't have the common sense to check out possibly the Better Business Bureau. I have since found a way to check the validity of an address.Zaba Search. Com is great. If I had known sooner I would have seen that this person was listed under their correct name but various middle initials all at the same address.However,they used a post office box in the same zip-code as their regular mailing address. Anyway, be careful. Check out their credentials if possible. By all means, do the legwork yourself if you can.Where I am, the FHC is over an hour away, no buses, no taxis, have to go down the mountain.(I'm not in the states. So, to the people that get pleasure of ripping other people off in our genealogical searches? Shame on you!!! It's people like you that cause much undue grief for others. I'm going to send this to all of the lists that I belong to. If one person is saved the aggravation that I've had then that will make me feel somewhat better. Regards to all from a fellow searcher

Hello Denise, I was sorry to read of your disappointing experience. I myself have recently had the exact opposite experiences when using the services of another party to carry out my genealogy research. I do not doubt that there are any number of unscrupulous people out there, ready to take advantage of unwary persons, like ourselves but I thought I should write to let you know that there are some honest people still left in this world. I live in Australia, and through one of those Genealogical Volunteer Helplist websites I came in contact with a person in Hertford England who kindly agreed to look-up a couple of records for me. (I refrain from mentioning his name here to protect his privacy). His generosity was such that he went to the lengths of researching my entire line!! of Hertford ancestors. He obtained photocopies of all documents and posted them to me in two parcels, trusting me to reimburse him the costs of copying and postage, which of course I did. This person spent weeks checking for information for me and insisted on no payment for his time and trouble. Such generosity and trust is a great thing to know, so it would be a pity to have the poor behaviour of one or two crooks ruin the trust we would all like to have for our fellow genalogical enthusiasts. Sincerely, Barry Howard. in Oz.

Cheers, Diane and welcome to Irish genealogy, especially the Catholic kind. I would recommend two websites: www.cyndislist.com for Ireland/No.Ireland, and also www.irishgenealogy.ie/csi/csi_main.cfm#Counties for starters. Good luck and enjoy Donegal. We loved it up there! Sharon & Jim Researching BYRNE & KAVANAGH, Counties Carlow, Wexford, Wicklow At 01:10 PM 5/15/2005 -0700, you wrote: >Hugh HARPER, Church of Ireland, b. abt 1830, Clonarl married Rosanna "Rose >Anna" BOYLE m. abt 1867 Catholic. Hugh is said to have converted to >marry his Catholic sweetheart. > >Children: Hugh (1868) > James Francis (1871-1932) Castlefin > John (1875-1950) Castlefin > Ann "Annie" (~1868-~1920) Married Barney DEVLIN (b. Co. > Derry) Kathleen (~1868) m. Daniel KELLY > Mary Jane (~1868-1901) Carnadore > Matthew Joseph (1879-1952) Carnadore m. Bridget McGIRR > >For a variety of reasons, I believe this family connects to my GG >Grandparents John HARPER-Martha IRWINE family (Ch. of Ireland) Both John >and Martha died in tiny Carnadore. My family's farm was then sold to the >above family or their descendants. My ggg grandparents were Edward "Tom" >HARPER and Elizabeth THOMPSON > >To be honest, I do not know where to start making this connection. >I've not done much Irish research and not any Catholic research. Can some >kind folks give me a little push? > >I have spoken with local Harpers, but their family history knowledge faded >after great grandparents. > >Cheers, >Diane Jameson (Bound for Co., Donegal in July :-)

Hugh HARPER, Church of Ireland, b. abt 1830, Clonarl married Rosanna "Rose Anna" BOYLE m. abt 1867 Catholic. Hugh is said to have converted to marry his Catholic sweetheart. Children: Hugh (1868) James Francis (1871-1932) Castlefin John (1875-1950) Castlefin Ann "Annie" (~1868-~1920) Married Barney DEVLIN (b. Co. Derry) Kathleen (~1868) m. Daniel KELLY Mary Jane (~1868-1901) Carnadore Matthew Joseph (1879-1952) Carnadore m. Bridget McGIRR For a variety of reasons, I believe this family connects to my GG Grandparents John HARPER-Martha IRWINE family (Ch. of Ireland) Both John and Martha died in tiny Carnadore. My family's farm was then sold to the above family or their descendants. My ggg grandparents were Edward "Tom" HARPER and Elizabeth THOMPSON To be honest, I do not know where to start making this connection. I've not done much Irish research and not any Catholic research. Can some kind folks give me a little push? I have spoken with local Harpers, but their family history knowledge faded after great grandparents. Cheers, Diane Jameson (Bound for Co., Donegal in July :-)

Today, I received this from Eddie Cantwell who is doing great work transcribing various records from County Waterford. P.Greetings from the Sunny South East of the old sod! just to tell you that I have completed...I think! griffiths Valuations for Abbeyside Dungarvan Co, Waterford, they will be of interest to people with roots in this area..I am about to tackle the 1901 & 1911 census, I will post these over a number of weeks. All will be found at our free blog site(poor people!) www.abbeysidereferencearchive.blogspot.com <http://www.abbeysidereferencearchive.blogspot.com> If I can be of any help to people Re: same they can contact me. Kindest regards Eddie -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus

hi denise many thanks for the warning terry

Hi All, While not wanting (as they say) to bash anyone I'd like to make a couple of comments in regard to paying someone to do research for you. Recently I had the experience of contacting a person on one of the lists that stated they search the Albany Archives on a regular basis. I inquired of the fee and the costs of certificates. Being on a limited income due to disability I agreed to the amount. The person also agreed to allow me to pay the next month for the second certificate I had asked for. To make this long story short. I got no certificates. They had excuse after excuse. They even had different numbers on the certificate for reference in all of my e-mails. Now I'm mad, leary and embarrassed all at the same time as well as being out $75. Mad as heck because someone took advantage of my trust in people, Leary of ever trying to pay a researcher again and embarrassed that I don't or didn't have the common sense to check out possibly the Better Business Bureau. I have since found a way to check the validity of an address.Zaba Search. Com is great. If I had known sooner I would have seen that this person was listed under their correct name but various middle initials all at the same address.However,they used a post office box in the same zip-code as their regular mailing address. Anyway, be careful. Check out their credentials if possible. By all means, do the legwork yourself if you can.Where I am, the FHC is over an hour away, no buses, no taxis, have to go down the mountain.(I'm not in the states. So, to the people that get pleasure of ripping other people off in our genealogical searches? Shame on you!!! It's people like you that cause much undue grief for others. I'm going to send this to all of the lists that I belong to. If one person is saved the aggravation that I've had then that will make me feel somewhat better. Regards to all from a fellow searcher Denise

I have just returned from the Republic and located my ancestors abode and forge in Knockballynameath. Can anyone assist me in finding any resources that give information of that parish in the 1850's? I am still trying to locate a burial place for James Minahan post 1855. I have visited two parish priest in Parteen and Limerick to no avail. John Minahan 1 Orange Grove, Essendon North 3041 Tel: 9379 3418 Mob: 0411 181 158 -----Original Message----- From: ConnorsGenealogy [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 18 April 2005 3:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ROLL CALL] RC parishes > > >How do you know the RC parishes? > This is a good question and I will start off the lesson and hope if others have more to add, that they do so. All are invited to add to this thread. This is how I find the RC parish, if I know the townland. 1. Go to the following website to find the civil parish: http://www.seanruad.com This website is a database of all the townlands listed in the 1851 Ireland census, so remember names change, borders change, but this will give you a good idea about where your townland is located. Also, remember that this database is quite strict when doing a search. So, if you spell the name wrong, don't put a capital on the first letter, you may not be able to find your information. Check out the SEARCH METHOD, if you can't find your townland. If you know the beginning or ending of the townland's name, try those options. 2. After you get the civil parish, barony and poor law union, you can use a some other resources, here are a few. --Book, 'A Guide to Irish Parish Register' by Brian Mitchell. This book is arranged by county. You go to the county, look up the civil parish and it will give you the RC parish and the dates of available records. However, if there are more than one RC parish in the civil parish, you won't get a definite answer here. --Book, 'Irish Records, Sources for Family and Local History' by James Ryan. This book also is arranged by county, and gives the civil parish and corresponding RC parishes and dates of available records. At the end of each county chapter, there are civil parish maps but like the above book, if there are more than one RC parish in the civil parish, you won't be able to use this source to figure out what your RC parish. --Book, 'A New Genalogical Atlas of Ireland, 2nd Edition' by Brian Mitchell. This is a book of maps for each county. Not only does it have the civil parish, barony and poor law union maps but also have RC parish maps. (For some of the northern counties, there are also Presbyterian Congregation maps.) When there are more than one RC parish in a civil parish, if you use the barony and poor law union information that you obtained from the SeanRuad website to figure out the RC parish. NOTE: The 1st edition of this book does NOT have RC parish maps. If you don't have any of these books, how else can you figure out the RC parish? 1. Use google to find a website that may give you the information. 2 Use the Catholic Ireland website index: http://www.catholicireland.net/parishes/index.php 3. Try the Irish Times website (part is free, part they charge, check out all the free areas): http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/ 4. Try asking on the county mailing list, someone will probably be able to help you. Here is the index for the Republic's county mailing lists: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/ Here is the index for the Northern Ireland county mailing lists: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by ZoneAlarm AntiVirus ==== IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS Mailing List ==== To Unsubcribe from L: mailto:[email protected] To Unsubscribe from D: mailto:[email protected] Put the single word 'unsubscribe' in the message subject and body -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 6/05/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.9 - Release Date: 12/05/2005