It seems Margaret was the illegitimate sister of the Viscount Clifden and that Patrick's untimely death ended the situation of "gentry", the children having to find employment as Revenue Officers, in the Military etc. This also caused a financial burden for Margaret and she was forced to call for help from her brothers. It seems that they did assist her, financially. The GL of Ireland has records of Patrick at Lodge 524, Powerstown, Co Carlow. It appears Powerstown is not very far from Gowran and it is reasonable to presume that he would have gone there for meetings. There are records of an ARTHUR GORE CUTHBERT who was also a Freemason, at or about the same time. This person cannot yet be fitted into the jigsaw. It is regretted that the English Military seem reticent in supplying data and, even more so, the Grand Orange Lodge who will not lift a finger to identify one who could be construed a Martyr to their Cause. An alternative birthdate is 1755. Lt Patrick Cuthbert. Gentleman. My GGG Gpa. Of Co Kilkenny. Does that help? I have a little more. KPS Cuthbert Box 2005, George 6530 RSA Tel: 044 8743655(h) 044 8024492(w) 0827239608(c) shoes@telkomsa.net or pcuthber@pgwc.gov.za -----Original Message----- From: Yvonne Stephens [mailto:ystephen@gpcom.net] Sent: Wednesday, 17 August, 2005 02:49 PM To: IRELAND-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-CEMETERIES] AGAR/AGER AGAR/AGER: Parents of John & Luke Agar I have no idea who they were. I have some info that it was County Carlow, also County Cork and various other Counties in Ireland. FACT: I did find a ships list with LUKE AGAR and he was aboard the LIMERICK.1850's. My ggggrandfather JOHN AGAR changed the spelling of the surname to AGER in the US... he arrived abt. 1849. NY>VT>IL>IA, Bremer County Iowa in 1864 The BIRTH DATE that I have for JOHN is b. 26 AUG 1830 d. 07 JAN 1909 burial Alcock Cemetery - IA I would be ever so grateful for any information on the AGAR/AGER line and especially to find out who the parents were? some info I have received suggested the Mother was a Hollingsworth..I have nothing to prove or disprove this. Thank you Yvonne Stephens - Nebraska, USA ystephens@gpcom.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: <IRELAND-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:58 AM Subject: [IRL-CEMETERIES] Would this be too big of a request > I am trying to create an excel file, which of course is labeled > Heastone Hunters > > What I would like to do is have everyone foreward either via the list > or to me directly there request which would include these main subject I have listed below ( and any other details you feel is relevant to your search) > > What I would need is > Surname > Christian names if known > County If known > Time Frame > And to that I will add everyones email address and it wont be going anywhere else but to my work diary. > What happens is I often see something that is relevant to your Surname searches but if I had these details in a format that was easier for me to access, I could then remember to whom or what list it needs to go to.........my head cannot these days hold all the names I know people are seeking. > > If you do not wish to be placed in this search file, then that is > fine, it is just to make my own work easier and to help those that I can, that I have decided to do this. > > Happy hunting all > Cara > List Admin > > CCara_Links > Researching Co.Wicklow,Wexford. > Hunting headstones is my passion. > And a friend is one who accepts your past, > loves you as you are, and believes in your tomorrows > > > ==== IRELAND-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Tips on list etiquette and how to maximise your chances of receiving > help can be found at ~ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donaghmore1/expectations.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== IRELAND-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== REMEMBER ~ Never open an attachment until you are absolutely positive it is safe to do so. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx ==== IRELAND-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== The list archives can be found by visiting ~ http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRELAND-CEMETERIES.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx