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BooksIreland is have a sale of many books dedicated to Irish literature, poetry, history and historical biographies that may be of interest to you. Check out their site at: https://www.booksireland.org.uk/store/all-departments/1916-one-hundred-years-of-irish-independence-from-the-easter-rising-to-the-present?utm_source=emailcampaign626&utm_medium=phpList&utm_content=textemail&utm_campaign=More+new+titles+added+to+BooksIreland -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com
From Books Ireland: During the past week we have added to our online bookstore a number of quality titles on a variety of subjects ranging from archaeology to ecclesiastical history and all at very competitive prices (some of which have been markedly reduced in price). https://www.booksireland.org.uk/store/damaged-books Books are damaged but they are dirt cheap. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com
'I didn't know there was a list for 'Ireland Book Discussion.' Yes, Virginia, there is a Rootsweb list dedicated to books about Ireland and all that has to do with Ireland. You can find info on my website at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/ Here is the Rootsweb page for it where you can also join, if you wish. We could use your knowledge. https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ireland-book-discussion.rootsweb.com/ -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com
I didn't know there was a list for 'Ireland Book Discussion.' Is that the list you mean? VirginiaB On Saturday, July 13, 2019, 05:28:03 PM EDT, Pat Connors <[email protected]> wrote: If you want to keep this list, try posting to it regularly. Ancestry is now deleting lists that do not have regular posts. If you are having any problems with the list, contact owner: [email protected] I have been buried in a number of Topographical Dictionary books, Lewis's Gazetteers, written by Samuel Lewis. Many years ago, I got into the Ireland version and at the time, I was admin of the County Tipperary website on Ireland Genweb: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/irltip/ Every time I added a new county or townland, I included what Lewis had written about that area. Now I am working on his book on Cornwall, a county in England. I have decided to add them also to the areas I have showcased on my website, counties in Ireland, England and soon will be adding Scotland. All places where my ancestors were born and/or lived. They were all written in the mid 1800s and I find them extremely interesting. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com _______________________________________________ ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
When we got my mum's DNA results back she turned out to be very Cornish indeed. Not that surprising when her surname line traces back to St Agnes in Cornwall and her matrilineal descent is from Treleaven of Lanlivery in Cornwall. You have to go way back (40 generations) for her descent from Brian Boruma. In 2014, a thousand years after he died at the Battle of Clontarf on Good Friday (St George's Day) 1014 aged about 88, mum was 88, and about 20% Irish, Scots, or Welsh per ancestry.com's reckoning. Richard:) On 13/07/2019, Pat Connors <[email protected]> wrote: > I have been buried in a number of Topographical Dictionary books, > Lewis's Gazetteers, written by Samuel Lewis. Many years ago, I got into > the Ireland version and at the time, I was admin of the County Tipperary > website on Ireland Genweb: > http://www.irelandgenweb.com/irltip/ > > Every time I added a new county or townland, I included what Lewis had > written about that area. Now I am working on his book on Cornwall, a > county in England. > > I have decided to add them also to the areas I have showcased on my > website, counties in Ireland, England and soon will be adding Scotland. > All places where my ancestors were born and/or lived. They were all > written in the mid 1800s and I find them extremely interesting. > -- > Pat Connors > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > _______________________________________________ > ====Ireland Roll Calls Mailing List==== > Post your surnames, get them into the lists archives, cousins will find you. > Don't forget to post your surnames when your data changes! > A good roll call is NOT long but includes: > surname, timeline, place where born, place where emigrated. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
I have been buried in a number of Topographical Dictionary books, Lewis's Gazetteers, written by Samuel Lewis. Many years ago, I got into the Ireland version and at the time, I was admin of the County Tipperary website on Ireland Genweb: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/irltip/ Every time I added a new county or townland, I included what Lewis had written about that area. Now I am working on his book on Cornwall, a county in England. I have decided to add them also to the areas I have showcased on my website, counties in Ireland, England and soon will be adding Scotland. All places where my ancestors were born and/or lived. They were all written in the mid 1800s and I find them extremely interesting. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com
Today, I updated the following surname registries on my website, http://www.connorsgenealogy.com County Armagh County Clare County Down Ireland Hudson River Mailing List Please check your entry(s) for accuracy. If you find mistakes or want to change you data and/or you email address, please follow the instructions at the bottom of the surname registries. Reminder: If your data or your email address has changed, let me know using the format at the bottom of the registries and I will make the changes when I do my next update of the site. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com
Many thanks for all you do, Pat! Jerry -----Original Message----- From: Pat Connors [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 2:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRELAND-BOOKS] Re: My must have books - Woulfe's "Irish Names and Surnames" Thank you, Jerry, > In comparison, Irish genealogical information recorded in English only > goes back how far? Maybe 150-170 years for most of us, or as far back > as 250 years for the lucky few? I have bookmarked the site and will definitely check out the book this coming week. I really do not know much about Ireland history before the 1700s. I must admit, my main object was finding where my family was from and I tracked them back as far as Irish records permit. However, I have been to Ireland at least 6-7 times and love the country. Happy Patrick's Day to all. I have my corn beef, potatoes and cabbage out of frig and pretty soon my apartment is going to smell like heaven! -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com _______________________________________________ ====Ireland Book Discussion Mailing List==== Mailing List Website: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/ Read an Irish book lately? How about sharing your views of it with us? If you know of a new Irish book, tell us about it. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Thank you, Jerry, > In comparison, Irish genealogical information recorded in English only > goes back how far? Maybe 150-170 years for most of us, or as far back > as 250 years for the lucky few? I have bookmarked the site and will definitely check out the book this coming week. I really do not know much about Ireland history before the 1700s. I must admit, my main object was finding where my family was from and I tracked them back as far as Irish records permit. However, I have been to Ireland at least 6-7 times and love the country. Happy Patrick's Day to all. I have my corn beef, potatoes and cabbage out of frig and pretty soon my apartment is going to smell like heaven! -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com
Hi Pat, Hope you've been well. Been out of touch for awhile because of my research on the hereditary ecclesiastical families of medieval Ireland. Another extremely important book is Fr. Patrick Woulfe's "Sloinnte Gaedheal Is Gall / Surnames of the Gaeil and the Gaill", which is usually called "Irish Names and Surnames". As you know and for the benefit of your readers, Woulfe wrote it in English and it's extremely important because it often indicates the pre-surname kinship of our various families. Our surnames only go back to the 10th century (although I think I've identified a handful of late 9th century surnames), but our pre-surname genealogies go back much further. For example, as noted by Woulfe in his book, the O'Donnells of Donegal are actually the Ó Domhnaill family of the Clann Dálaigh of the Cinéal Luighdheach of the Cinéal Chonaill. That gets us back to the 5th century A.D. From this it's easy to note that the Cinéal Chonaill are a branch of the Uí Néill In Tuaiscirt of the Uí Néill of the Connachta of the Féine, by which point we're easily back another couple of centuries and maybe even further. So, the genealogical tradition recorded in Irish for most Irish people goes back, by a conservative estimate, at least 1700 years. But when we examine the 'archaic tribes' (like the Artraige, Boannraige, and Dartraige), the tribes identified by Ptolemy of Alexandria, the Cruithin, and the clearly identified Belgic tribes like the Menapii, we're apparently back as far as the time of Christ and perhaps even centuries earlier. In comparison, Irish genealogical information recorded in English only goes back how far? Maybe 150-170 years for most of us, or as far back as 250 years for the lucky few? Woulfe's Sloinnte Gaedheal Is Gall is available as a free database under the name "Irish Names and Surnames" at https://www.libraryireland.com/names/contents.php . For easy access, users should know their surname in Irish as provided in books like MacLysaght's Surnames of Ireland. (It's much more efficient to operate a database using the single, correct spelling in Irish rather than the many misspellings, a.k.a. 'anglicizations', in English.) Which reminds me, for those who want to learn Irish, there's a free internet course which started a month ago (and which goes slowly so it's easy to catch up) at https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/philostartingtolearn/info . For those on Long Island, NY, the Gerry Tobin Irish Language School's free weekly classes for absolute beginners starts this coming Wednesday at 7:30PM in the AOH Hall at 27 Locust Avenue, Babylon. Everyone just shows up to register. Hope that's helpful. Many, many thanks for all your do. And Happy Saint Patrick's Day! Best, Jerry -----Original Message----- From: Pat Connors [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2019 3:24 PM To: Ireland Book Discussion Subject: [IRELAND-BOOKS] My must have books When I started researching my family tree, I did know where to look. It was in the 1990s and the internet was just born. Quickly Rootsweb got online and from the various lists, I found out what books would help me. Today, I will name three: A New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland, by Brian Mitchell: This is my bible! It has maps of every county in Ireland broken down into Civil Parishes, Baronies, Poor Law Unions and Roman Catholic Parishes. These are what you need to know when researching records. The Surnames of Ireland, by Edward MacLysaght: Each name has a blurb about the name's origins and where it is found in Ireland. Tracing Your Irish Ancestors, by John Grenham This is another bible specializing in Ireland research. It has sections on Civil Records, Census Records, Church Records, and Land Records. Also sections on Sources, where to find those records. Irish Records, Sources for Family and Local History, by James Ryan, Ph.D. This another book that I used to help me with my family search. It explains all the records used in Irish research and is broken down into sections for each county. Each section has a list of available records by years. Also maps of each county by civil and RC parishes. I used many other books over the years and will add more in posts to the list as time goes by. Also, check out the section of my website dedicated to Irish Books at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/ Hope to hear from more of you and what books you used or are using for your family research. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com _______________________________________________ ====Ireland Book Discussion Mailing List==== Mailing List Website: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/ Read an Irish book lately? How about sharing your views of it with us? If you know of a new Irish book, tell us about it. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Beth mentioned this book (which I also have a copy of) being difficult to locate. I'm quite sure it is out of print now, but Abe books has a copy for sale (over 40 dollars !!). I would suggest that someone interested enough, go to WorldCat.org and find local libraries where it can be found to borrow. I'm fortunate living in Massachusetts, with all of its Irish-oriented seminaries, colleges - willing to lend such books. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts
Here are some County Mayo books I have that I will add and do look ups if needed: The Louisburgh-Clinton Connection by Edward M Gill Westport, County Mayo, Ireland, Guide and Town Map, by Bob Kingston Clew Bay Archaeological Trail, by Edel Hackett Archdiocese of Tuam, An Illustrated History, edited by Kieran Waldron If you request a look up, please be specific and remember to give me the name of the book. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com
Pat, I generally have run into a brick wall in researching my Irish ancestors, Patrick Donohue and his wife Katherine Cahill, who are said to have come from Cork around 1840. Those names are concentrated in Ardnageehy, near Fermoy in Cork County. Any recommendations? Bill Donohue -----Original Message----- From: Pat Connors <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 4:35 PM To: Ireland Book Discussion <[email protected]> Subject: [IRELAND-BOOKS] Our most useful books for doing our Irish genealogy research > By far the most useful book I have had for researching my Irish family > history and Irish history more broadly is: Index of Townlands and > Towns, Parishes and Baronies of Ireland 1851. In the early 1990s, I > bought a reprint of the 1851 edition from The Genealogical Publishing > Company of Baltimore. Yes, Tom, this is also on my shelves. I probably use it everyday still. It is based on the 1851 Ireland census. I bought it in Ireland probably 20 yrs ago and use it still. It is online for those who do not have the book: https://thecore.com/seanruad/index.html You search by townland, county, barony, civil parish, poor law union, etc. The late Sean Ruad, organized a group of volunteers to transcribe the book in the late 1900s, early 2000. When they finished, he put it all together and created a website and put it online. After he died, The Core, put it on their site. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com _______________________________________________ ====Ireland Book Discussion Mailing List==== Mailing List Website: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/ Read an Irish book lately? How about sharing your views of it with us? If you know of a new Irish book, tell us about it. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Meaning I can’t find them to give you titles and authors at the moment. But one I do remember and have in my genealogy file drawer is Where the Sun Sets by Father Sean Noon…not eaxily acquired 20 years ago when I got cable internet and still not even now that I can find. It covers Mayo but primarily Belmullet and the communities in the west. I have a bunch more to recommend but I have to find my boxes (we’re moving book cases around so they are not right at the end of my arm like I prefer. I usually want to just reach out and touch them.. even if I don’t open them today) I love this one cause it names all my names and has pictures of some of my “lost” old ones… Beth Cherkowsky http://www.depressionglasswarehouse.com
> By far the most useful book I have had for researching my Irish family > history and Irish history more broadly is: Index of Townlands and > Towns, Parishes and Baronies of Ireland 1851. In the early 1990s, I > bought a reprint of the 1851 edition from The Genealogical Publishing > Company of Baltimore. Yes, Tom, this is also on my shelves. I probably use it everyday still. It is based on the 1851 Ireland census. I bought it in Ireland probably 20 yrs ago and use it still. It is online for those who do not have the book: https://thecore.com/seanruad/index.html You search by townland, county, barony, civil parish, poor law union, etc. The late Sean Ruad, organized a group of volunteers to transcribe the book in the late 1900s, early 2000. When they finished, he put it all together and created a website and put it online. After he died, The Core, put it on their site. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com
Pat--By far the most useful book I have had for researching my Irish family history and Irish history more broadly is: Index of Townlands and Towns, Parishes and Baronies of Ireland 1851. In the early 1990s, I bought a reprint of the 1851 edition from The Genealogical Publishing Company of Baltimore. The second most important book was that of James Ryan you cite below. I have used MacLysaght, but believe that he should not be regarded as complete. Because of my interest in North Tipperary, the books of George Cunningham, such as The Norman Advance Into the Irish Midlands, have been fun to read. —Tom P.S. My most intense work started in the mid-90s and extended to about 2010. I continue to subscribe to Ancestry.com <http://ancestry.com/> and am amazed at the material turned up by that outfit. On Mar 6, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Pat Connors <[email protected]> wrote: When I started researching my family tree, I did know where to look. It was in the 1990s and the internet was just born. Quickly Rootsweb got online and from the various lists, I found out what books would help me. Today, I will name three: A New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland, by Brian Mitchell: This is my bible! It has maps of every county in Ireland broken down into Civil Parishes, Baronies, Poor Law Unions and Roman Catholic Parishes. These are what you need to know when researching records. The Surnames of Ireland, by Edward MacLysaght: Each name has a blurb about the name's origins and where it is found in Ireland. Tracing Your Irish Ancestors, by John Grenham This is another bible specializing in Ireland research. It has sections on Civil Records, Census Records, Church Records, and Land Records. Also sections on Sources, where to find those records. Irish Records, Sources for Family and Local History, by James Ryan, Ph.D. This another book that I used to help me with my family search. It explains all the records used in Irish research and is broken down into sections for each county. Each section has a list of available records by years. Also maps of each county by civil and RC parishes. I used many other books over the years and will add more in posts to the list as time goes by. Also, check out the section of my website dedicated to Irish Books at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/ Hope to hear from more of you and what books you used or are using for your family research. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com _______________________________________________ ====Ireland Book Discussion Mailing List==== Mailing List Website: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/ Read an Irish book lately? How about sharing your views of it with us? If you know of a new Irish book, tell us about it. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
When I started researching my family tree, I did know where to look. It was in the 1990s and the internet was just born. Quickly Rootsweb got online and from the various lists, I found out what books would help me. Today, I will name three: A New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland, by Brian Mitchell: This is my bible! It has maps of every county in Ireland broken down into Civil Parishes, Baronies, Poor Law Unions and Roman Catholic Parishes. These are what you need to know when researching records. The Surnames of Ireland, by Edward MacLysaght: Each name has a blurb about the name's origins and where it is found in Ireland. Tracing Your Irish Ancestors, by John Grenham This is another bible specializing in Ireland research. It has sections on Civil Records, Census Records, Church Records, and Land Records. Also sections on Sources, where to find those records. Irish Records, Sources for Family and Local History, by James Ryan, Ph.D. This another book that I used to help me with my family search. It explains all the records used in Irish research and is broken down into sections for each county. Each section has a list of available records by years. Also maps of each county by civil and RC parishes. I used many other books over the years and will add more in posts to the list as time goes by. Also, check out the section of my website dedicated to Irish Books at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/ Hope to hear from more of you and what books you used or are using for your family research. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com
Hi Tom, > Hi, Pat—I am not sure how to respond. I now it has been a long time > since I’ve visited Rootsweb, but will remedy that.—Tom I guess the best way would be to share what books helped you with your family research. Later on today, I will start with some of my books. I have been too quiet on this list. -- Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com
Hi, Pat—I am not sure how to respond. I now it has been a long time since I’ve visited Rootsweb, but will remedy that.—Tom On Mar 5, 2019, at 3:56 PM, Pat Connors <[email protected]> wrote: It start this past week, those list that are on Rootsweb that are not being used are being taken down. So, if you have lists that you use now and then and do not want them to be taken down, how about sending a message to it now and then. If you have not found all your ancestors, write for help. If you do have all your ancestors, write with research clues and places to use on the internet that helped you. In the past, these have been good lists that helped me find my ancestors. Thanks, — . Pat Connors http://www.connorsgenealogy.com _______________________________________________ ====Ireland Book Discussion Mailing List==== Mailing List Website: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/ Read an Irish book lately? How about sharing your views of it with us? If you know of a new Irish book, tell us about it. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community