Hi Eileen - MARITIME RECORDS: From 1864 up to the present, the General Register Office has kept a separate 'Marine Register' of births and deaths of Irish subjects which took place at sea. From 1886 only, a printed index to this register is bound into the back of the births and death index for each year. For earlier registers, the indexes have to be requested from the staff in the Office. No separate reegister was kept for marriages at sea. SCHOOL RECORDS: Check out what the National Archives of Ireland website has to offer for researchers who visit their facility in Dublin. Resources include various National School Roll Books/Registers received via the Department of Education for Cos. Cavan, Cork, Donegal, Dublin, Galway, Kerry, Kilkenny, Laois, Leitrim, Longford, Mayo, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Roscommon, Tipperary, Waterford, Westmeath, Wexford and Wicklow. School records received via private donation include Cos. Cavan, Carlow, Cork, Donegal, Dublin, Galway, Kerry, Kildare, Laois, Leitrim, Longford, Mayo, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Roscommon, Sligo, Tipperary, Waterford, Westmeath, Wexford and Wicklow. I found that the easiest way for me to locate their school records page was to simply do a "Google" website search for National School Records. (I had problems locating it using their website index, but you may not.) While I don't believe the personnel at the Archives do research for the general public, they do take queries, have tips on using their facility and apparently have a list of genealogists who do research on some materials for a fee. You might even find a volunteer to do look-ups for these via the "Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" (RAOGK) website for little or nothing. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "eileen mcdonald-sayer" <andros028@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 3:51 PM Subject: [IRELAND] LAW, JOHN and ELIZABETH > Can anybody out there please help me with ANY information on my Great Great grandad JOHN LAW, I know so little about this side of my family all I know about him is that he saved a man (Mr John Hurley) from drowning in Queenstown harbour Cork in August 1861, for which he received the Royal Humane Society award.. He was at that time a porter, I don't know if he lived in Queenstown. > > His daughter ELIZABETH was born at sea off the Irish coast (noted on 1891 census) in around 1862 I havnt been able to find her birth details I found out that records of births at sea had this reference number BT158/2 but I don't know how to find out the details, can anyone help? . She married JOHN JOSEPH MCDONALD who was born in Midleton, Cork in around 1860. > > I want to find out Elizabeths mothers name and if she had any siblings and also JOHN JOSEPHS parents names and if he had any siblings any information at all might help me get through the brickwall I have come up against. > > Does anyone know how I could get school records from Midleton as this may lead me in the right direction, I am getting so frustrated as everything I have tried so far has come up with nothing. my email address is andros028@hotmail.com if anyone would like to reply . Thankyou Eileen

Jean~ Thanks so much re: the "Births at Sea" Index. I'll go back and make my request again mentioning the index. My ancestor was 1904/05, have to check the family bible for the exact date. Perhaps in my request of May last, that particular index was not checked. However, I did state he was a "Birth at Sea" by an Irish citzen (mother) returning for the child's birth. Mary Ellen Chambers "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> wrote: Hi Eileen - MARITIME RECORDS: From 1864 up to the present, the General Register Office has kept a separate 'Marine Register' of births and deaths of Irish subjects which took place at sea. From 1886 only, a printed index to this register is bound into the back of the births and death index for each year. For earlier registers, the indexes have to be requested from the staff in the Office. No separate reegister was kept for marriages at sea. SCHOOL RECORDS: Check out what the National Archives of Ireland website has to offer for researchers who visit their facility in Dublin. Resources include various National School Roll Books/Registers received via the Department of Education for Cos. Cavan, Cork, Donegal, Dublin, Galway, Kerry, Kilkenny, Laois, Leitrim, Longford, Mayo, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Roscommon, Tipperary, Waterford, Westmeath, Wexford and Wicklow. School records received via private donation include Cos. Cavan, Carlow, Cork, Donegal, Dublin, Galway, Kerry, Kildare, Laois, Leitrim, Longford, Mayo, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Roscommon, Sligo, Tipperary, Waterford, Westmeath, Wexford and Wicklow. I found that the easiest way for me to locate their school records page was to simply do a "Google" website search for National School Records. (I had problems locating it using their website index, but you may not.) While I don't believe the personnel at the Archives do research for the general public, they do take queries, have tips on using their facility and apparently have a list of genealogists who do research on some materials for a fee. You might even find a volunteer to do look-ups for these via the "Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" (RAOGK) website for little or nothing. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "eileen mcdonald-sayer" To: Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 3:51 PM Subject: [IRELAND] LAW, JOHN and ELIZABETH > Can anybody out there please help me with ANY information on my Great Great grandad JOHN LAW, I know so little about this side of my family all I know about him is that he saved a man (Mr John Hurley) from drowning in Queenstown harbour Cork in August 1861, for which he received the Royal Humane Society award.. He was at that time a porter, I don't know if he lived in Queenstown. > > His daughter ELIZABETH was born at sea off the Irish coast (noted on 1891 census) in around 1862 I havnt been able to find her birth details I found out that records of births at sea had this reference number BT158/2 but I don't know how to find out the details, can anyone help? . She married JOHN JOSEPH MCDONALD who was born in Midleton, Cork in around 1860. > > I want to find out Elizabeths mothers name and if she had any siblings and also JOHN JOSEPHS parents names and if he had any siblings any information at all might help me get through the brickwall I have come up against. > > Does anyone know how I could get school records from Midleton as this may lead me in the right direction, I am getting so frustrated as everything I have tried so far has come up with nothing. my email address is andros028@hotmail.com if anyone would like to reply . Thankyou Eileen ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/

Hi Mary Ellen, Since there seems to have been a period of up to three months in which a birth could be registered, have them check for the event in the a wider range of records. I know that my father's birth in November 1903 in England (which had the same system, apparently) was not found in the last quarter of 1903 records, but in the first quarter of 1904. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Ellen Chambers" <maryln61@sbcglobal.net> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] National School Records - 'Marine Register' Births/Deaths at Sea - RAOGK Website - LAW, JOHN and ELIZABETH > Jean~ > Thanks so much re: the "Births at Sea" Index. I'll go back and make my request again mentioning the index. My ancestor was 1904/05, have to check the family bible for the exact date. Perhaps in my request of May last, that particular index was not checked. However, I did state he was a "Birth at Sea" by an Irish citzen (mother) returning for the child's birth. > > Mary Ellen Chambers > > "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> wrote: > Hi Eileen - MARITIME RECORDS: From 1864 up to the present, the General > Register Office has kept a separate 'Marine Register' of births and deaths > of Irish subjects which took place at sea. From 1886 only, a printed index > to this register is bound into the back of the births and death index for > each year. For earlier registers, the indexes have to be requested from the > staff in the Office. No separate reegister was kept for marriages at sea. > > SCHOOL RECORDS: Check out what the National Archives of Ireland website has > to offer for researchers who visit their facility in Dublin. Resources > include various National School Roll Books/Registers received via the > Department of Education for Cos. Cavan, Cork, Donegal, Dublin, Galway, > Kerry, Kilkenny, Laois, Leitrim, Longford, Mayo, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, > Roscommon, Tipperary, Waterford, Westmeath, Wexford and Wicklow. School > records received via private donation include Cos. Cavan, Carlow, Cork, > Donegal, Dublin, Galway, Kerry, Kildare, Laois, Leitrim, Longford, Mayo, > Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Roscommon, Sligo, Tipperary, Waterford, Westmeath, > Wexford and Wicklow. I found that the easiest way for me to locate their > school records page was to simply do a "Google" website search for National > School Records. (I had problems locating it using their website index, but > you may not.) While I don't believe the personnel at the Archives do > research for the general public, they do take queries, have tips on using > their facility and apparently have a list of genealogists who do research on > some materials for a fee. > > You might even find a volunteer to do look-ups for these via the "Random > Acts of Genealogical Kindness" (RAOGK) website for little or nothing. Jean > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "eileen mcdonald-sayer" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 3:51 PM > Subject: [IRELAND] LAW, JOHN and ELIZABETH > > > > Can anybody out there please help me with ANY information on my Great > Great grandad JOHN LAW, I know so little about this side of my family all I > know about him is that he saved a man (Mr John Hurley) from drowning in > Queenstown harbour Cork in August 1861, for which he received the Royal > Humane Society award.. He was at that time a porter, I don't know if he > lived in Queenstown. > > > > His daughter ELIZABETH was born at sea off the Irish coast (noted on 1891 > census) in around 1862 I havnt been able to find her birth details I found > out that records of births at sea had this reference number BT158/2 but I > don't know how to find out the details, can anyone help? . She married JOHN > JOSEPH MCDONALD who was born in Midleton, Cork in around 1860. > > > > I want to find out Elizabeths mothers name and if she had any siblings and > also JOHN JOSEPHS parents names and if he had any siblings any information > at all might help me get through the brickwall I have come up against. > > > > Does anyone know how I could get school records from Midleton as this may > lead me in the right direction, I am getting so frustrated as everything I > have tried so far has come up with nothing. my email address is > andros028@hotmail.com if anyone would like to reply . Thankyou Eileen > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ > > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ >