This is all I have on my Scrivner & Ross families: I have the complete children listing of these folks. It was written by my GGG Grandmother Mary Elizabeth Scrivner who married Gillman Brooks. Edward b 9-21-1813 Harpers Ferry VA Died in Norway KS Married Nancy Sebering b 3-10-1818 at Delaware Co Ohio Children were: William H b1-7-1840 in Franklin Co Ohio John A b 8-9-1842 in Delaware Co Ohio Mary Elizabeth b 10-29-1844 Franklin Co Ohio married Gillman Drew Brooks Her Daughter Viola is my G grandma Eliza Jane b 3-17-1846 Franklin Co Ohio Fletcher b 3-28-1848 Franklin Co Ohio Jasper S b 3-28-1850 Whitney Co Indiana Sanford b 1-12-1853 Whitney Co Indiana Emma T b 3-12-1855 Whitney Co Indiana Sarah E b 9-3-1858 Taylor Co Iowa George W b 3-19-1860 Leavenworth Co KS Alice Adella b 7-28-1862 Washington Co KS I don't know where any of these people went-some did stay in Cloud Co KS Here's what I have for my Ross family as written by my G Grandma: Cunningham & Samuel Ross were brothers-sons of Son Ross and Mary Craig-John Ross was the son of John Ross Sr. who was born in Belfast Irleand and came to PA in 1778. He married Jenette Irwin and they had 11 Children. Moved to Warren Co Ohio in 1812. John Ross Jr. had the following children: David Irwin who died at 26yrs. 1843 Nancy Jane who died at 22 years 1842 Cunningham who died at 62 years 1887 Joseph his twin died at birth 1825 John Ross-3rd. died at 22 years 1845 Samuel A who died at 78 yrs 1905 Mary Katherine who died at 3 years 1831 Robert Ludwell who died at 5 months 1839 The Father died in 1844. Mary Craig lived with our grandfather Samuel until 1885. The rosses, Craigs and Irwins were all Scotch living in No Ireland. You know our Grandmother Sarah Ann Emery was Mary Jane Emery's sister and you know our Grand Father Samuel was Cunningham's brother. So Mother & Aunt Sue were double cousins. I have found out a lot about the Rosses & Emerys now. Cunningham lived with Henry & Ett until his death after Aunt Jane left him On the back of this is an old genealogy form with: Cunningham Ross b 5-3-1825 In Warren Co Ohio Mother Mary Craig- Father John Ross died 9-28-1887 in Madison Co Iowa Wife is Mary Jane Emery b 2-5-1825 in Clermont Co Ohio Died 7-11-1909 in Red Rock OK buried in Winterset Iowa Father was Henry Emery Mother Susannah Ramsey Children: Silas b in Clermont Co Ohio married a Florence lived in Colorado Henry E b 1855 Knox Co Ill died 1-11-1934 Married Etta Guilliams in 1880 -----Original Message----- From: CMARYPATC@aol.com [mailto:CMARYPATC@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 5:19 PM To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Scrivner : Can you help find my Scrivner family? I also am looking for Ross-I have some data but am at the wall with these folks. These people would be in Belfast prior to 1813. SCRIVENER, Emily Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 27 Oct 1871 Birthplace: 740, Donnybrook, Dub, Ire Recorded in: Dublin, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Joseph SCRIVENER Mother: Caroline PARRETT Source: FHL Film 255834 Dates: 1870 - 1873 Lots of Scrivner in England, starting in 1700's to 1906 .. Need moe detail to go further .. MaryPat ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/