unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Cogan" <karen.cogan@virgin.net> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:17 AM Subject: [IRELAND] COGAN > Hi everyone, > > I wonder if anyone can help? > > I have been trying to determine whether our family originated in Ireland > and now more specifically the possibility of Cork. I did a surname > search on www.goireland.com for the COGAN name and it said that they > mainly resided in Cork - obviously our branch could have moved but as > I've had a brick wall with this for a couple of years I thought I'd give > it a go. The info I have are as follows: > > John COGAN was born somewhere between 1859 and 1863, he died in January > 1937. He was a Coal Miner and lived from at least July 1881 (when he > married Martha PRINCE) until he died in Kippax, Yorkshire, England. > > His fathers details from the marriage certificate state his name as > James COGAN and occupation as a Miner. > > Before 1881 we cannot find any trace of John unless we assume the 1881 > census entry for John CROGON who was living with Marthas mother on the > 1881 census in Kippax was another miss-spelled name and is our John > COGAN which means we know he was in Kippax at the time of the 1881 > census. > > The only other thing we know for John is the place of birth information > on 1891 and 1901 census' which state North Newcastle and Lancashire > respectively and the name was written as COGGAN (a common problem having > this name). The 1881 census also had Lancashire but also mentioned Wigan > as the place of birth. > > The age given on 1881, 1891 and 1901 census' all tally being 22, 32 & 42 > respectively. This leads me to his age which would mean that in 1871 he > should be 12 and 1861 aged 2. This places his date of birth as c.1859 > but his death certificate stated he was 74 when he died which puts his > date of birth c.1863. He marriage certificate states he was 21 at the > time of the marriage which puts his birth c.1860. > > This obviously doesn't confirm whether John or James were from Ireland > but having searched the English 1871 and 1861 census I have not found > any COGAN family where the there was a son John with a father James even > allowing for miss-spelling in the surname. > > Also information from living relatives does not confirm anything - one > member thought he was born in Lancashire another thought Newcastle, > Northumberland, England. So I thought why not look in Ireland - it seems > to be an Irish name from the info found on the internet. Also it could > be possible they came from "a" Newcastle in Ireland and settled in Wigan > before John came to Yorkshire. > > If anyone is researching the COGAN family or can help it would be very > much appreciated. I also apologise if you get this message twice as I've > posted it both on the Cork and the Ireland lists. > > Regards > > Karen Cogan > Yorkshire, England > > Other Irish names being researched are: ROCH (probably Cork - still > trying to track this one down), McCaffrey(McCaffery) - Armagh > > > > > > > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup > volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ > >