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    1. Re: [IRELAND] Irish in Scotland in 1851 - "Negil" Ireland Re "Stonyford" - "Martyn Park" for Edward MARTYN?
    2. Jean R.
    3. Lindsey & List -- September 29, 2007: Ireland's President, Mrs. Mary McALEESE's visit to Coatbridge yesterday, as part of her three-day trip to Scotland, acknowledged the presence of Scotland's largest single community of Irish diaspora. Her attendance at St Patrick's church brought back memories of the thousands of Irish people who passed through the Broomielaw in Glasgow to Coatbridge - which in the middle of the 19th century was enjoying an upsurge in industry. When Mary McALEESE finally appeared, Mrs Emily O'DONNELL thrust her hand outwards and exchanged a few, treasured words. Like so many people in the Lanarkshire town of Coatbridge, the septuagenarian, who moved to Scotland from Dublin in 1949, is inextricably bound to Ireland and the occasion meant much to her. There, with the Monkland Canal, and work in iron smelting, families from Ireland, mainly originating from the northern counties of Donegal, Down, Armagh, and Tyrone, could find a way to make a living rather than endure their homeland's famine. The numbers were sizeable. According to the 1851 census, Scotland's Irish-born population was just 7.2% of the total population. In Coatbridge, however, that figure stood at 35.8%. Excerpts, "The Herald." A famous person who might have an area or park named after him: Edward MARTYN was born at Masonbrook, near Loughrea, Galway, on the 31st January, 1859. Per Wikipedia: Edward MARTYN (1859-1923) of Tullira Castle, Ardrahan, Co. Galway. Irish political and cultural activist, playwright, last of the senior branch of the MARTYN family of Tullira, one of the Tribes of Galway. Friend of William Butler YEATS, Lady GREGORY, with whom he founded the Irish Literary Theatre. He was the first President of Sinn Fein, which he co-founded with Arthur Griffith. He was a cousin and friend to George MOORE, though their relationship was often antagonistic. Violently opposed to British rule in Ireland, he was the centre of a court case in 1905 as the result of an off-the cuff remark in which he stated that "All Irishmen who join the English army ought to be flogged". He died in 1923, unmarried, and after donating his body to science, was buried at his own request in a pauper's grave. He was related to the Hungarian artist and sculptor, Ferenc MARTYN (1899-1986). (My note: Check me out, but I remember seeing on the 1901 Census data at the Leitrim-Roscommon.com website, several MARTYN families and one listed Galway with a reference to Tullira. Also, on the all-Ireland townland search engine there 70 "starts with Ston" type placenames to explore. The Scottish census "negil" under discussion has been provided with good ideas from listers. I guess the Do"negal" one might be the one I would favor, based on your seeming North of Ireland focus, but the other suggestions are very good. It is noted that clarification to do with "Ireland" on the 1851 Scotland census apparently could refer to a parish, a maiden "nee"surname, as well as a county. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Phelan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Negil Ireland Re Stonyford > There is a village called Stonyford in Co Kilkenny. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:14 PM > Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Negil Ireland > > >> This is what I am feeling that these areas I am searching are so small >> only the town folk have >> ever heard of them. >> >> I am also looking for Stoneport, or Stonefort, or Stonepost Ireland >> also written next to this was Martyn Park. These are supposed to be >> birthplaces also. >> >> This is all from a 1937 death cert of a man who was born in Ireland. >> I have yet to find >> these places either. >> >> He was supposed to have been from Fermanagh but unsure if he was born >> there. >> >> Lindsey

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