Do you know if the Irish married within their family occupation as the Germans did? Did my family, who were coopers, marry into families who were coopers? And thanks for the occupation list! " It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it: Al Gore, former vice-president Marilynn IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:30 PM Subject: [IRELAND] Old Occupations In Records > OLD OCCUPATIONS > Accomptant - Accountant > Almoner- Giver of charity to the needy > Amanuensis - Secretary or stenographer > Artificer - A soldier mechanic who does repairs > Bailie - Bailiff > Baxter - Baker > Bluestocking - Female writer > Boniface - Keeper of an inn > Brazier - One who works with brass > Brewster - Beer manufacturer > Brightsmith - Metal Worker > Burgonmaster - Mayor > Caulker - One who filled up cracks (in ships or windows or seems to make > them watertight by using tar or oakum-hem fiber produced by taking old > ropes > apart. > Chaisemaker - Carriage maker > Chandler - Dealer or trader; one who makes or sells candles; retailer of > groceries, ship supplier > Chiffonnier - Wig maker > Clark - Clerk > Clerk - Clergyman, cleric > Clicker - The servant of a salesman who stood at the door to invite > customers; one who received the matter in the galley from the compositors > and arranged it in due form ready for printing; one who makes eyelet holes > in boots using a machine which clicked. > Cohen - Priest > Collier - Coal miner > Colporteur - Peddler of books > Cooper - One who makes or repairs vessels made of staves & hoops,such as > casks, barrels, tubs, etc. > Cordwainer - Shoemaker, originally any leather worker using leather from > Cordova/Cordoba in Spain > Costermonger - Peddler of fruits and vegetables > Crocker - Potter > Crowner - Coroner > Currier - One who dresses the coat of a horse with a currycomb;one who > tanned leather by incorporating oil or grease > Docker - Stevedore, dock worker who loads and unloads cargo > Dowser - One who finds water using a rod or witching stick > Draper - A dealer in dry goods > Drayman - One who drives a long strong cart without fixed sides for > carrying > heavy loads > Dresser- A surgeon's assistant in a hospital > Drover - One who drives cattle, sheep, etc. to market; a dealer in cattle > Duffer - Peddler > Factor - Agent, commission merchant; one who acts or transacts business > for > another; Scottish steward or bailiff of an estate. > Farrier - A blacksmith, one who shoes horses > Faulkner- Falconer > Fellmonger - One who removes hair or wool from hides in preparation for > leather making > Fletcher - One who made bows and arrows > Fuller - One who fulls cloth;one who shrinks and thickens woolen cloth by > moistening, heating, and pressing; one who cleans and finishes cloth > Gaoler - A keeper of the goal, a jailer > Glazier - Window glassman > Hacker - Maker of hoes > Hatcheler - One who combed out or carded flax > Haymonger - Dealer in hay > Hayward - Keeper of fences > Higgler - Itinerant peddler > Hillier - Roof tiler > Hind - A farm laborer > Holster - A groom who took care of horses, often at an inn > Hooker - Reaper > Hooper - One who made hoops for casks and barrels > Huckster - Sells small wares > Husbandman - A farmer who cultivated the land > Jagger - Fish peddler > Journeyman - One who had served his apprenticeship and mastered his craft, > not bound to serve a master, but hired by the day. > Joyner / Joiner - A skilled carpenter > Keeler - Bargeman > Kempster - Wool comber > Lardner - Keeper of the cupboard > Lather - Installer of lath strips in old-time walls > Lavender - Washer woman > Lederer - Leather maker > Leech - Physician > Longshoreman - Stevedore > Lormer - Maker of horse gear > Malender - Farmer > Maltster - Brewer > Manciple - A steward > Mason - Bricklayer > Mintmaster - One who issued local currency > Monger - Seller of goods (ale, fish) > Muleskinner - Teamster > Neatherder - Herds cows > Ordinary Keeper- Innkeeper with fixed prices > Pattern Maker - A maker of a clog shod with an iron ring. A clog was a > wooden pole with a pattern cut into the end > Peregrinator - Itinerant wanderer > Peruker - A wig maker > Pettifogger - A shyster lawyer > Pigman - Crockery dealer > Plumber - One who applied sheet lead for roofing andset lead frames for > plain or stained glass windows. > Porter - Door keeper > Puddler - Wrought iron worker > Quarrier- Quarry worker > Rigger - Hoist tackle worker > Ripper - Seller of fish > Roper - Maker of rope or nets > Saddler - One who makes, repairs or sells saddles or other furnishings for > horses. > Sawbones- Physician > Sawyer - One who saws; carpenter > Schumacker - Shoemaker > Scribler - A minor or worthless author > Scrivener - Professional or public copyist or writer; notary public > Scrutiner - Election judge > Shrieve / SheriffSlater - Roofer > Slopseller- Seller of ready-made clothes in a slop shop > Snobscat / Snob - One who repaired shoes > Sorter - Tailor > Spinster - A woman who spins or an unmarried woman > Spurrer - Maker of spurs > Squire - Country gentleman; farm owner; justice of peace > Stuff gown - Junior barrister > Stuff gownsman - Junior barrister > Supercargo - Officer on merchant ship who is in charge of cargo and the > commercial concerns of the ship. > Tanner - One who tans (cures) animal hides into leather > Tapley - One who puts the tap in an ale cask > Tasker - Reaper > Teamster - One who drives a team for hauling > Thatcher - Roofer > Tide waiter - Customs inspector > Tinker - An itinerant tin pot and pan seller and repairman > Tipstaff - Policeman > Travers - Toll bridge collection > Tucker - Cleaner of cloth goods > Turner - A person who turns wood on a lathe into spindles > Victualer - A tavern keeper, or one who provides an army, navy, or ship > with > food > Vulcan - Blacksmith > Wagoner - Teamster not for hire > Wainwright - Wagon maker > Waiter - Customs officer or tide waiter; one who waited on the tide to > collect duty on goods brought in. > Waterman - Boatman who plies for hire > Webster - Operator of looms > Wharfinger - Owner of a wharf > Wheelwright - One who made or repaired wheels; wheeled carriages,etc. > Whitesmith - Tinsmith; worker of iron who finishes or polishes the work > Whitewing - Street sweeper > Whitster - Bleach of cloth > Wright - Workman, especially a construction worker > Yeoman - Farmer who owns his own land > -- more -- > Abraham Man - Beggar, "pretended lunatic" > Aromatarius - Grocer. > Badger - Also Higgler and Peddar - intinerant trader, usually of food.. > Bairman or Bareman -- Pauper > Ale Draper - Innkeeper > Alnager - ]Sworn officer appt. to examine, attest to measurment, quality > of > woolen goods. > Archdeacon - Bishop's deputy. > Bailiff - Employed by lord of manor to administer some farms and lands. > Overall administration was in the hands of a Steward. > Barker - A tanner of leather. > Beadle - Parish or ward officer, often associated with administration of > Poor Law. > Bowyer - Maker or dealer in archery bows, or an archer. > Broderers - Embroiderers. > Burriarius - Dairyman. > Cadger - Carrier or Pedlar of small wares by means of a horse & cart. > Chapman - Dealer in small wares. > Classman - Unemployed labourer. > Collier -- Coal miner, originally a charcoal seller, later meant to be a > coal miner or a sailor on a coal ship. > Cottar - Cottager with small landholding, obliged to provide labour on the > farm of the lord of the manor. > Couper - One who buys and sells, especially cattle and hores - e.g. > horse-couper, herring-couper. > Couple Beggar - Itinerant "hedge-priest," priest of low status, often > illiterate, who performed marriages before 1754. > Crofter - Usual term ofr a Scottish smallholder. Occasional used for a > bleacher or dyer in textile trades. > Cutlers - Made swords, knives, instruments. > Dexter - Dyer. > Feroner - An Ironmonger. > Flatman - Boatman. > Fletcher - See Bowyer. > Fogger - Pedlar, or headman at a farm, a groom or manservant, also > Middleman in the nail and chain trade or farm labourer. (Pettifogger, > low-class > lawyer.) > Frobisher or Furbisher - Armour polisher. > F.W.K. - Stockinger, works with hand loom or Frame Work Knitter. > Gaffer - In the building trade. > Gaffman - Baliff. > Garthman - Yardsman, herdsman - or worker in a fish-garth, dam for > catching > fish. > Girdler - Belt maker. > Glaziers - Painters of stained glass. > Greave - Or Grieve -Baliff or foreman. > Haberdasher - Or Milliners - Specializing in hats, ribbons, etc. > Hawker - Traveling salesman with wares. > Hellier - Hillier, Slater or tiler. > Hind - Household servant or farm labourer. > Hostellers - Innkeepers. > Hostler - Or Ostler - Stableman at an inn, or person in charge of > locomotives when not in use. > Ironmonger - or Feroners - Dealer in iron. > Jagger - Hawker, or dealer in fish, or person in charge of "jags"/coal > trains in mines, or whocarries coal ore on pack-horses from mine. > Maker-up - Garment assembler, chemist, or druggist. > Upholders - Upholsterers, > Loriner - Lorimer, Lormer - Maker of bits, spurs, ironwear for horses. > Magistrate - Justice of the Peace. > Mercer - Dealer in wool, silk, cotton, linen goods. > Taylor - Tailor, merchant tailor. > Neatherd - Cowherd. > Pavior - Repairs paving stones. > Poulter - Dealer in poultry and game. > Salter - Maker or dealer of salt. > Self-Acter Minder - Person who looked after the "self-acting" mule in a > spinning machine. > Shipwright - Maker of ships. > Soliciter - Part of the legal profession, not necessarily University > graduates, such as a Barrister would be; note, they are often harder to > trace, but tended to make out their own wills. > Troner - Official in charge of weighing with scales. > Verderer - Officer responsible to preserve King's forest, or a Petty > Constable. > Whitesmith - Worker in tin.. > Watch & Ward Men - Men appointed to police an area under supervision of > Constable - i.e. Night watch or day watch. > Watermen & Lightermen - Licensed by City of London to work on parts of the > Thames. (Excellent records in manuscripts of Guildhall Library). > Yeoman - Man holding (not necessarily owning) and cultivating small landed > estate. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 4846 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hello, Regarding occupations, what might it mean when it says the father of the groom's occupation is "private"? Thank you. Valerie C.> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:35:21 -0500> Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Old Occupations In Records> > Do you know if the Irish married within their family occupation as the > Germans did? Did my family, who were coopers, marry into families who were > coopers? And thanks for the occupation list!> " It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in > our air and water that are doing it:> Al Gore, former vice-president> Marilynn> IBSSG> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean R." <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:30 PM> Subject: [IRELAND] Old Occupations In Records> > > > OLD OCCUPATIONS> > Accomptant - Accountant> > Almoner- Giver of charity to the needy> > Amanuensis - Secretary or stenographer> > Artificer - A soldier mechanic who does repairs> > Bailie - Bailiff> > Baxter - Baker> > Bluestocking - Female writer> > Boniface - Keeper of an inn> > Brazier - One who works with brass> > Brewster - Beer manufacturer> > Brightsmith - Metal Worker> > Burgonmaster - Mayor> > Caulker - One who filled up cracks (in ships or windows or seems to make> > them watertight by using tar or oakum-hem fiber produced by taking old > > ropes> > apart.> > Chaisemaker - Carriage maker> > Chandler - Dealer or trader; one who makes or sells candles; retailer of> > groceries, ship supplier> > Chiffonnier - Wig maker> > Clark - Clerk> > Clerk - Clergyman, cleric> > Clicker - The servant of a salesman who stood at the door to invite> > customers; one who received the matter in the galley from the compositors> > and arranged it in due form ready for printing; one who makes eyelet holes> > in boots using a machine which clicked.> > Cohen - Priest> > Collier - Coal miner> > Colporteur - Peddler of books> > Cooper - One who makes or repairs vessels made of staves & hoops,such as> > casks, barrels, tubs, etc.> > Cordwainer - Shoemaker, originally any leather worker using leather from> > Cordova/Cordoba in Spain> > Costermonger - Peddler of fruits and vegetables> > Crocker - Potter> > Crowner - Coroner> > Currier - One who dresses the coat of a horse with a currycomb;one who> > tanned leather by incorporating oil or grease> > Docker - Stevedore, dock worker who loads and unloads cargo> > Dowser - One who finds water using a rod or witching stick> > Draper - A dealer in dry goods> > Drayman - One who drives a long strong cart without fixed sides for > > carrying> > heavy loads> > Dresser- A surgeon's assistant in a hospital> > Drover - One who drives cattle, sheep, etc. to market; a dealer in cattle> > Duffer - Peddler> > Factor - Agent, commission merchant; one who acts or transacts business > > for> > another; Scottish steward or bailiff of an estate.> > Farrier - A blacksmith, one who shoes horses> > Faulkner- Falconer> > Fellmonger - One who removes hair or wool from hides in preparation for> > leather making> > Fletcher - One who made bows and arrows> > Fuller - One who fulls cloth;one who shrinks and thickens woolen cloth by> > moistening, heating, and pressing; one who cleans and finishes cloth> > Gaoler - A keeper of the goal, a jailer> > Glazier - Window glassman> > Hacker - Maker of hoes> > Hatcheler - One who combed out or carded flax> > Haymonger - Dealer in hay> > Hayward - Keeper of fences> > Higgler - Itinerant peddler> > Hillier - Roof tiler> > Hind - A farm laborer> > Holster - A groom who took care of horses, often at an inn> > Hooker - Reaper> > Hooper - One who made hoops for casks and barrels> > Huckster - Sells small wares> > Husbandman - A farmer who cultivated the land> > Jagger - Fish peddler> > Journeyman - One who had served his apprenticeship and mastered his craft,> > not bound to serve a master, but hired by the day.> > Joyner / Joiner - A skilled carpenter> > Keeler - Bargeman> > Kempster - Wool comber> > Lardner - Keeper of the cupboard> > Lather - Installer of lath strips in old-time walls> > Lavender - Washer woman> > Lederer - Leather maker> > Leech - Physician> > Longshoreman - Stevedore> > Lormer - Maker of horse gear> > Malender - Farmer> > Maltster - Brewer> > Manciple - A steward> > Mason - Bricklayer> > Mintmaster - One who issued local currency> > Monger - Seller of goods (ale, fish)> > Muleskinner - Teamster> > Neatherder - Herds cows> > Ordinary Keeper- Innkeeper with fixed prices> > Pattern Maker - A maker of a clog shod with an iron ring. A clog was a> > wooden pole with a pattern cut into the end> > Peregrinator - Itinerant wanderer> > Peruker - A wig maker> > Pettifogger - A shyster lawyer> > Pigman - Crockery dealer> > Plumber - One who applied sheet lead for roofing andset lead frames for> > plain or stained glass windows.> > Porter - Door keeper> > Puddler - Wrought iron worker> > Quarrier- Quarry worker> > Rigger - Hoist tackle worker> > Ripper - Seller of fish> > Roper - Maker of rope or nets> > Saddler - One who makes, repairs or sells saddles or other furnishings for> > horses.> > Sawbones- Physician> > Sawyer - One who saws; carpenter> > Schumacker - Shoemaker> > Scribler - A minor or worthless author> > Scrivener - Professional or public copyist or writer; notary public> > Scrutiner - Election judge> > Shrieve / SheriffSlater - Roofer> > Slopseller- Seller of ready-made clothes in a slop shop> > Snobscat / Snob - One who repaired shoes> > Sorter - Tailor> > Spinster - A woman who spins or an unmarried woman> > Spurrer - Maker of spurs> > Squire - Country gentleman; farm owner; justice of peace> > Stuff gown - Junior barrister> > Stuff gownsman - Junior barrister> > Supercargo - Officer on merchant ship who is in charge of cargo and the> > commercial concerns of the ship.> > Tanner - One who tans (cures) animal hides into leather> > Tapley - One who puts the tap in an ale cask> > Tasker - Reaper> > Teamster - One who drives a team for hauling> > Thatcher - Roofer> > Tide waiter - Customs inspector> > Tinker - An itinerant tin pot and pan seller and repairman> > Tipstaff - Policeman> > Travers - Toll bridge collection> > Tucker - Cleaner of cloth goods> > Turner - A person who turns wood on a lathe into spindles> > Victualer - A tavern keeper, or one who provides an army, navy, or ship > > with> > food> > Vulcan - Blacksmith> > Wagoner - Teamster not for hire> > Wainwright - Wagon maker> > Waiter - Customs officer or tide waiter; one who waited on the tide to> > collect duty on goods brought in.> > Waterman - Boatman who plies for hire> > Webster - Operator of looms> > Wharfinger - Owner of a wharf> > Wheelwright - One who made or repaired wheels; wheeled carriages,etc.> > Whitesmith - Tinsmith; worker of iron who finishes or polishes the work> > Whitewing - Street sweeper> > Whitster - Bleach of cloth> > Wright - Workman, especially a construction worker> > Yeoman - Farmer who owns his own land> > -- more --> > Abraham Man - Beggar, "pretended lunatic"> > Aromatarius - Grocer.> > Badger - Also Higgler and Peddar - intinerant trader, usually of food..> > Bairman or Bareman -- Pauper> > Ale Draper - Innkeeper> > Alnager - ]Sworn officer appt. to examine, attest to measurment, quality > > of> > woolen goods.> > Archdeacon - Bishop's deputy.> > Bailiff - Employed by lord of manor to administer some farms and lands.> > Overall administration was in the hands of a Steward.> > Barker - A tanner of leather.> > Beadle - Parish or ward officer, often associated with administration of> > Poor Law.> > Bowyer - Maker or dealer in archery bows, or an archer.> > Broderers - Embroiderers.> > Burriarius - Dairyman.> > Cadger - Carrier or Pedlar of small wares by means of a horse & cart.> > Chapman - Dealer in small wares.> > Classman - Unemployed labourer.> > Collier -- Coal miner, originally a charcoal seller, later meant to be a> > coal miner or a sailor on a coal ship.> > Cottar - Cottager with small landholding, obliged to provide labour on the> > farm of the lord of the manor.> > Couper - One who buys and sells, especially cattle and hores - e.g.> > horse-couper, herring-couper.> > Couple Beggar - Itinerant "hedge-priest," priest of low status, often> > illiterate, who performed marriages before 1754.> > Crofter - Usual term ofr a Scottish smallholder. Occasional used for a> > bleacher or dyer in textile trades.> > Cutlers - Made swords, knives, instruments.> > Dexter - Dyer.> > Feroner - An Ironmonger.> > Flatman - Boatman.> > Fletcher - See Bowyer.> > Fogger - Pedlar, or headman at a farm, a groom or manservant, also> > Middleman in the nail and chain trade or farm labourer. (Pettifogger,> > low-class> > lawyer.)> > Frobisher or Furbisher - Armour polisher.> > F.W.K. - Stockinger, works with hand loom or Frame Work Knitter.> > Gaffer - In the building trade.> > Gaffman - Baliff.> > Garthman - Yardsman, herdsman - or worker in a fish-garth, dam for > > catching> > fish.> > Girdler - Belt maker.> > Glaziers - Painters of stained glass.> > Greave - Or Grieve -Baliff or foreman.> > Haberdasher - Or Milliners - Specializing in hats, ribbons, etc.> > Hawker - Traveling salesman with wares.> > Hellier - Hillier, Slater or tiler.> > Hind - Household servant or farm labourer.> > Hostellers - Innkeepers.> > Hostler - Or Ostler - Stableman at an inn, or person in charge of> > locomotives when not in use.> > Ironmonger - or Feroners - Dealer in iron.> > Jagger - Hawker, or dealer in fish, or person in charge of "jags"/coal> > trains in mines, or whocarries coal ore on pack-horses from mine.> > Maker-up - Garment assembler, chemist, or druggist.> > Upholders - Upholsterers,> > Loriner - Lorimer, Lormer - Maker of bits, spurs, ironwear for horses.> > Magistrate - Justice of the Peace.> > Mercer - Dealer in wool, silk, cotton, linen goods.> > Taylor - Tailor, merchant tailor.> > Neatherd - Cowherd.> > Pavior - Repairs paving stones.> > Poulter - Dealer in poultry and game.> > Salter - Maker or dealer of salt.> > Self-Acter Minder - Person who looked after the "self-acting" mule in a> > spinning machine.> > Shipwright - Maker of ships.> > Soliciter - Part of the legal profession, not necessarily University> > graduates, such as a Barrister would be; note, they are often harder to> > trace, but tended to make out their own wills.> > Troner - Official in charge of weighing with scales.> > Verderer - Officer responsible to preserve King's forest, or a Petty> > Constable.> > Whitesmith - Worker in tin..> > Watch & Ward Men - Men appointed to police an area under supervision of> > Constable - i.e. Night watch or day watch.> > Watermen & Lightermen - Licensed by City of London to work on parts of the> > Thames. 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