Possible the eldest was born on board the Dalmatian, in which case 'birth' is attributed to the next port of landing. In a message dated 2/3/2009 6:27:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, irishloft@verizon.net writes: Hello-- Thanks for the info -- I have fragmented info on my Patrick Hoy -- Patrick born ~1807 and Mary born ~1811 in Ireland -- I have info stating he & wife Mary arrived in NY on the ship "Dalmatian" in 1836 from County Longford -- I know they were living in Luzerne Co., PA in 1850 -- not sure if they went there when they arrived from Ireland or if they spent some years elsewhere -- it seems they were there in Luzerne Co. since all of their children are said to be born in PA. except the oldest daughter Ellen(my Gr-Gr-grandmother) -- the info I have says Ellen was born in New York when they arrived in 1836 -- but because of her age -- I think she was born in 1834 ?? Maybe they arrived on the "Dalmatian" in 1834 instead of 1836 --- especially since her younger brother Peter is said to have been born in 1836 -- if they arrived in 1836 it means Ellen was 2yrs. old and was born in Ireland not NY ?? I found old church records that show a son Peter born 1836, Catherine b.1839, Thomas b.1842, MaryAnn b. 1845, and James b.1847 in PA. -- I recently found a Hoy grave where they lived in PA that has Peter living from 1838(not 1836 as above) to 1922 -- his wife Bridget died at 62 years old in Jan. 1903 as marked on the gravestone. Is it possible to find that ship log and where that ship would depart from if they were from Longford ?? Thanks again, Patrick M. McCann in PA On Jan 31, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Jean R. wrote: > Cathy Joynt Labath > Ireland Newspaper Abstracts > http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/Ireland/index.htm > Irish in Iowa > http://www.celticcousins.net/irishiniowa/index.htm > > Hi Patrick - Any idea where your HOY ancestors lived in Ireland? > (I see > from the surname search engine at http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/ > that HOYE is a varation.) > > During the Primary Valuation of Ireland (1848-64), there were 15 HOY > households in Co. Longford, 12 in Belfast city, 7 in Co. Louth, 6 > in Co. > Meath, 5 each in Cos. Offaly (King's Co.) and Sligo, 4 each in Cos. > Dublin, > Monaghan and Antrim, down from there. Per Matheson's 1890 birth data, > babies born that year were overwhelmingly in the province of Ulster. > Anything ring a bell? J. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick McCann" <irishloft@verizon.net> > To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:58 AM > Subject: Re: [IRELAND] IGP > > >> Hi Don & All, >> I am unable to trace my 3x Gr-Grandfather Patrick Hoy who is said >> to have left PA for Iowa in the late 1800's -- he and his wife & >> children arrived in NY from Ireland in approx. 1834 - 1836 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message