Hi Jean, Thanks again for the full reply and the addendum. According to the info. I have Philip, was baptised in St Anne's Shankill Church of Ireland in 1772, but on his marriage to Charlotte Kieran in 1795 in Dundalk Co. Louth, he is RC, as is Charlotte. The family remained RC. Philip was a nankeen weaver so I suppose that's why they chose WIGAN. They lived around Hardy Butts and St John Street where many Irish lived. I'm sure Edward is mine. He went on to marry Jane PORTER and was present when his father died of cholera in 1849. A PATRICK DIAMOND, living at the same address, had also died the previous day. Though they were all weavers, I have found Patrick in army records. I'm assuming he is a brother or cousin of Edward and my geat grandfather James but haven't gone into that yet (so much to do!!) I need to look more into Margaret. At one point I thought she could be Patrick's daughter but have nothing yet to go on. You mentioned unusual names of the well-to-do. Mine were not, but how's this for names? James and his wife ANN ELLISON called their children NAPOLEON, JOSEPHINE, HANNIBAL, CONSTANTINE (my grandfather), JULIUS CAESAR, as well as the more usual CHARLOTTE, LOUISA, ELLEN and ELIZABETH. The names Hannibal, Napoleon, Julius Caesar and Constantine were carried on in later generations. I also have a case of the sister, Elizabeth MCCANN widowed with 5 children, marrying Louisa KELLY who died in child birth.I met 'cousins' from that side of the family last year. One is called CONSTANCE after her father! And my own son is called Philip, though he was born long before I knew about Philip, my Irish weaver. Thanks again for your help Judith Cambs

Hi Judith - What a small world! On my search for DIAMOND individuals the other day, I made note of an individual whose very unusual name caught my eye on the 1911 UK (England & Wales) free search engine.census at http://www.1911census.co.uk:80/ Napoleon DIAMOND, age 36, born 1891, Lancs., living in Wigan. One of yours? You can check and see if my notepad "scribbles" are correct. There were DIAMOND, DIMOND and DYMOND individuals on that 1911 census living in England, some in Wigan. Just looking at DIAMONDs, I found many individuals "born in Ireland," but also some who recorded a specific place of birth: Antrim, Dublin, Mayo, Wexford, Londonderry, Derry, Kilkenny, Down, Longford, Cavan, Tipperary, Cork, Waterford, Meath. There might be more with a misspelling of a county. For example, I found some individuals (with other surnames) who were born in "Lietrim" instead of Leitrim. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: <JuRothwell@aol.com> To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:05 PM Subject: [IRELAND] DIAMOND,KIERAN,BURRUS > Hi Jean, > Thanks again for the full reply and the addendum. You wrote: You mentioned unusual names of the well-to-do. <snip>