If and I say if - and this is not to cause problems Moses P Osborne was born in Donegal May I ask why you think he departed Ireland through CO Cork, this to me suggests that the man, actually removed from the North of Ireland, where Donegal Is to the immediate South to catch a ship to Canada - wouldnt it make more sense that he would sail from a port closer to Donegal if he was living there. A Henrie Osburne/Osborne was a Londonderry Alderman and he was dead in 1676 I also noted that a John Osborne was an Army man and died in 1723 at Drogeda but indeed the name does appear all over Ireland SO I do understand your frustration at looking for him, what about a shipping list for the time frame ? I also note that the name does appear in Co Cork as a Henry Osborn is a doctor in CO COrk dead by 1811. I located no Moses Osborn - but will take a look at more data I have compiled on Ireland. Sorry I am only asking questions not trying to mess your researching up Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Ann" <bamedhat@telus.net> To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] query re: OSBORNE surname - Irish Provinces - TheBook of Irish Families Great & Small > Hi Jean > > All that I know about my direct lineage ancestor, Moses Osborne is as > follows: > > In 1823, when Moses P. Osborne applied for land in Canada, he stated > that he settled in New Brunswick, Canada in 1819, and that he was a > single man who was born in County Donegal, Ireland in about 1794. > > I also believe Moses Osborne came to Canada with at least one > sibling, sister Mary, who settled in the same area in 1819, was born > in County Donegal in 1796 and married William Taylor in Canada in 1829. > > While I have found records indicating Osborne families lived in at > least three Donegal locations during the appropriate 1780-1820 time > frame, I have not been able to find anything that would suggest which > family that our Moses and Mary may have descended from. > > Possible familial locations include: > 1. Braade Upper, Glencolumbkille, > 2. Stranalore > 3. Letterkenny > > Family lore suggests that Moses Osborne came from/through Cork - no > indication as to city or county. A very real consideration might be > that, three generations later, the more familiar name of Cork could > have been mistaken for Carrick which is in the Glencolumbkille area. > There are also vague, third and forth hand, familial suggestions of > possible McAlward and Doherty family connections, but absolutely > nothing tangible. > > I certainly would appreciate any/all assistance/suggestions that > anyone on this list might be able to offer. > > Thanks for your interest > > Betty ANn > > > > On 7-Jan-09, at 9:33 PM, Jean R. wrote: > > > Hi Betty Ann - Not to answer your specific question, but according to > the > surname search engine at www.ireland.com/ancestor/ ("Irish Times" > website), > during the Primary Valuation (1848-64), there were 193 OSBORNE > households, > 19 Osbourne, 4 Osburn, 2 Osburne, and 2 Usborne households. OSBORNE > spelling was found in many Irish counties, but the majority of those > OSBORNE > households were found in Co. Down 18, Co. Derry 17, Co. Tyrone 16, > Co. Meath > 13, Co. Donegal 12, Co. Waterford 12, Co Kilkenny 10, down from > there. (If > you believe there is a Scots-Irish component to your FH, you may be > looking > at the Ulster/Northern Ireland region.) Do you have a second > surname, such > as wife's maiden ("nee") surname, in a marriage that took place in > Ireland? > If so, could provide more clues. Be sure and explore various > websites for > information on your surnames of interest, too, via a "google" search.. > > What years do you believe they lived in Ireland? In the year 1890, > there > were 12 Osborne births recorded in the Province of Ulster, 5 in > Leinster, 5 > in Munster and only one in Connacht (Connaught), per the Matheson > survey, > which is also found at www.ireland.com/ancestor/ > > Where and when did you find the family definitely living elsewhere? > Vigorous research there may provide the name of a county or townland or > village in some document, such as a death notice. Perhaps a living > relative > can shed more light - family lore, prior research, a notation or record. > Given names were often repeated in earlier and later generations. An > unusual first or middle name of a son could reflect mother's maiden > name. > Children with both first and second given names were usually from > well-educated, better-off families, oftentimes Protestant. > > Below is a list of the counties found in the Irish Provinces: > > IRISH PROVINCES > > LEINSTER: Cos. Carlow, Dublin, Kildare, Kilkenny, Laois (Leix/Queen's > Co), > Longford, Louth, Meath, Offaly (King's Co.), Westmeath, Wexford and > Wicklow. > > MUNSTER: Cos. Clare, Cork, Kerry, Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford. > > ULSTER: Divided in two sections -- > (1) Northern Ireland with Cos. Antrim, Armagh, Derry/Londonderry, > Down, Fermanagh and Tyrone. > (2) Republic of Ireland with Cos. Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan. > > CONNAUGHT: Cos. Galway, Leitrim, Mayo, Roscommon and Sligo. > > Jean > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty Ann" <bamedhat@telus.net> > To: "Ireland Mailing List" <ireland@rootsweb.com>; "Donegal Mailing > List" > <DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:47 PM > Subject: [IRELAND] The Book of Irish Families Great & Small >> I have heard that this book is a good resource tool. >> >> Could sks with access to a copy of this book, The Book >> of Irish Families Great & Small by Michael C. O'Laughlin, >> please look to see if there are any Osborne families >> listed in it? >> >> I am not sure what the author's criteria might be for an >> Irish Family. I suspect that my Osborne ancestors were >> Scots-Irish, and may only have been in Ireland for a >> couple of generations. > <snip> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: 3/01/2009 2:14 PM

That is a good point, Cara. That Moses first name is unusual, to .... Fascinating! Listers might note that in 1796 there WERE Catholics who migrated from Ulster (Armagh?) to Co. Mayo (Westport?) J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] query re: OSBORNE surname - Irish Provinces - TheBookof Irish Families Great & Small > If and I say if - and this is not to cause problems Moses P Osborne was > born > in Donegal > May I ask why you think he departed Ireland through CO Cork, this to me > suggests that the man, > actually removed from the North of Ireland, where Donegal Is to the > immediate South to catch a > ship to Canada - wouldnt it make more sense that he would sail from a port > closer to Donegal if he was living there. <snip>