unsubscribe Hilsen, Fran Garwick -----Original Message----- From: ireland-request@rootsweb.com To: ireland@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:00 am Subject: IRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 2 Today's Topics: 1. Parish of Maghera,Co.Londonderry 1700's Vital Records (james0319) 2. Re: References: Letters & Memoirs, Colonial & Revolutionary America, 1675-1815 -- Parish of Maghera, Co.Londonderry 1700's Vital Records (Jean R.) 3. Birthplace for Cove family (chris giles) 4. Re: Birthplace for Cove family (Patricia O'Shea) 5. Re: Birthplace for Cove family (Mike Saunders) 6. Re: Birthplace for Cove family (chris giles) 7. Re: Birthplace for Cove family (hiflyte) 8. Re: Birthplace for Cove family (Jean R.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:12:14 -0500 From: james0319 <james0319@aol.com> Subject: [IRELAND] Parish of Maghera,Co.Londonderry 1700's Vital Records To: irl-ulster@rootsweb.com, ireland-l@rootsweb.com, irl-surnames-l@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <ba26da66.eded.4dbd.a8d8.cd2a3ade9f0b@aol.com> Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone know where I can find vital records, particularly birrths / baptisms for the townlands of Slaghtybogy and Maghera, (and also any other VR's or substitutes for the Parish of Maghera )in the 1700's? Many thanks, Jim ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 10:57:20 -0800 From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> Subject: Re: [IRELAND] References: Letters & Memoirs, Colonial & Revolutionary America, 1675-1815 -- Parish of Maghera, Co.Londonderry 1700's Vital Records To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <05ed01c96c42$c7293e20$291ecac6@jean> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Jim - What surnames are you researching? You might want to compose an addendum with the surnames in caps on the subject line. Perhaps you, and others, might be interested in the following books for research/background: 1. "Tracing Your Irish Ancestors," John Grenham (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 1997), is a reader-friendly, comprehensive reference by expert Grenham with detailed explanations of all types of records available, (censuses and census substitutes) to include voter's lists, military, journals, directories, graveyard inscriptions, and a chapter on each county in the whole of Ireland. 2. Irish Immigrants in the Land of Canaan: Letters and Memoirs from Colonial and Revolutionary America, 1675-1815 by Kerby A. Miller, Arnold Schrier, Bruce D. Boling, and David N. Doyle (Paperback - Mar 27, 2003). Also available in hardback. Excerpt - page 568: "... , Pa., to John, Robert, and James Johnson, Slaghtybogy, c/o James Barclay, Maghera, Co. Derry, 27 November 1767. 3. Colby, Col., "Ordnance Survey Memoir of the County of Londonderry" (Dublin 1837). 4. PRONI (Public Record Office of Northern Ireland), "A Register of Trees for Co. Londonderry, 1768-1911 (Belfast 1984), includes names of tenant planters. 5. Spinning-Wheel Premium Lists. Microfiche index in National Archives (Dublin). Names and parishes of those granted spinning-wheels by the government on the basis of areas planted with flax, comprising, in the case of Co. Londonderry, over 8,000 names. 6. In the mid-to-late 1990s, Angelique Day and Patrick McWilliams produced many reference books on the 1830's "Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland" to include at least two on Co. Londonderry. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "james0319" <james0319@aol.com> To: <irl-ulster@rootsweb.com>; <ireland-l@rootsweb.com>; <irl-surnames-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:12 AM Subject: [IRELAND] Parish of Maghera,Co.Londonderry 1700's Vital Records > Does anyone know where I can find vital records, particularly birrths / > baptisms for the townlands of Slaghtybogy and Maghera, (and also any other > VR's or substitutes for the Parish of Maghera )in the 1700's? Many > thanks, Jim > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 20:11:43 -0000 From: "chris giles" <chrisgiles46@hotmail.com> Subject: [IRELAND] Birthplace for Cove family To: <IRELAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY127-DS4C86995230DDA4C24CC99DAE50@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi I am new to this list having just found that one of my ancestors was born in Ireland. The only problem is that I cannot understand the writing o the place that he was born in. It could be Theynesiolly or Theyneswitty I just can't make it out.... It is written as his birthplace on the 1851 census where he was residing at Tower Hamlets, Stepney, London. His name is John Cove born abt 1824. Is there anyone out there that would be willing to decipher it for me? I can send a copy of the census to you. His wife Eliza also has the birthplace R.K. or S.K. does anyone know what this means? Also I wonder was the surname Cove a common name and did they live in a certain part in Ireland? Thanking you Chris G ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 09:48:01 +1300 From: "Patricia O'Shea" <pkoshea@xtra.co.nz> Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Birthplace for Cove family To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <B231D1AD271A4913926838EE5A01B6AC@acer7fd9a64054> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The letters beside Eliza look like NK which usually means 'Not Known'. I agree that the birthplace for John looks like your version but it may be what the enumerator heard said rather than how it is actually spelt. This is not helpful of course! I have looked on Seanruad for a number of combinations of this word without success. The only COVEs in the Griffiths Valuations that I can see are in Kilkenny county. Others may have more useful suggestions. Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand - Subject: [IRELAND] Birthplace for Cove family > Hi > I am new to this list having just found that one of my ancestors was born > in Ireland. > The only problem is that I cannot understand the writing o the place that > he was born in. It could be Theynesiolly or Theyneswitty I just can't make > it out.... > It is written as his birthplace on the 1851 census where he was residing > at Tower Hamlets, Stepney, London. His name is John Cove born abt 1824. Is > there anyone out there that would be willing to decipher it for me? I can > send a copy of the census to you. His wife Eliza also has the birthplace > R.K. or S.K. does anyone know what this means? > Also I wonder was the surname Cove a common name and did they live in a > certain part in Ireland? > Thanking you Chris G > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:16:58 -0600 From: "Mike Saunders" <csaunders65@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Birthplace for Cove family To: ireland@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <d046e1bc0901011316v16677eb2s2f7b9d9ea8f10128@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 2:11 PM, chris giles <chrisgiles46@hotmail.com>wrote: > Hi > I am new to this list having just found that one of my ancestors was born > in Ireland. > The only problem is that I cannot understand the writing o the place that > he was born in. It could be Theynesiolly or Theyneswitty I just can't make > it out.... Chris, Here are several possibilities but I am inclined to believe Co. Kilkenny is probably where you should concentrate your search. I found two John Cove's baptismal records both in Co. Kilkenny. The Irish Family History Foundation can be searched for free if one registers. If one wants to purchase the information it can be done online. The IreAtlas Townland Data Base Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Tinaslatty 257 Kilkenny Ida The Rower New Ross Leinster Tinnaslatty 771 Kilkenny Galmoy Aharney Urlingford Leinster Tullyratty 223 Down Lecale Lower Ballyculter Downpatrick Ulster http://www.seanruad.com/cgi-bin/iresrch Irish Family History Foundation Church Baptism Cove John 1809 Co. Kilkenny Church Baptism Cove John 1834 Co. Kilkenny http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/map.php Happy New Year, Mike Saunders Universal City, TX ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:39:26 -0000 From: "chris giles" <chrisgiles46@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Birthplace for Cove family To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY127-DS5491D557F740C7298F380DAE50@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Mike Thanks for that info and the web sites to where I can search. Being new to tracing Irish relatives I was stuck a little. Especially with not being able to find the birth place. but now at least have something to start with. Happy New Year regards Chris G > On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 2:11 PM, chris giles > <chrisgiles46@hotmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi >> I am new to this list having just found that one of my ancestors was born >> in Ireland. >> The only problem is that I cannot understand the writing o the place that >> he was born in. It could be Theynesiolly or Theyneswitty I just can't >> make >> it out.... > > > Chris, > > Here are several possibilities but I am inclined to believe Co. Kilkenny > is > probably where you should concentrate your search. I found two John > Cove's > baptismal records both in Co. Kilkenny. The Irish Family History > Foundation > can be searched for free if one registers. If one wants to purchase the > information it can be done online. > > The IreAtlas Townland Data Base > Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province > Tinaslatty 257 Kilkenny Ida The Rower New Ross Leinster > Tinnaslatty 771 Kilkenny Galmoy Aharney Urlingford Leinster > Tullyratty 223 Down Lecale Lower Ballyculter Downpatrick Ulster > http://www.seanruad.com/cgi-bin/iresrch > > Irish Family History Foundation > Church Baptism Cove John 1809 Co. Kilkenny > Church Baptism Cove John 1834 Co. Kilkenny > http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/map.php > > Happy New Year, > > Mike Saunders > Universal City, TX > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:06:56 -0700 From: hiflyte <hiflyte@telus.net> Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Birthplace for Cove family To: ireland@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <495D4C90.9030001@telus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Chris, Griffith Vauation list three Cove surnames in Ireland. Cove Francis Jamesgreen,Jamesgreen St. Canices Kilkenny Cove Joseph Jamesgreen,Jamesgreen St. Canices Kilkenny Cove Francis Lane To Bishop's Meadows,Bishopsmeadows St. Canices Kilkenny The following URL has links to Kilkenny sites: http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/ireland/kilkenny/ Bob Cdn ==================================== ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:16:19 -0800 From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Birthplace for Cove family To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <09e001c96c66$f4cd0270$291ecac6@jean> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Chris - The surname search at www.ireland.com/ancestor/ shows that there were only three COVE households in the whole of Ireland (1848-1864 Primary Valuation) and ALL in Co. Kilkenny. For a small fee, they can tell you which civil parish/es they lived in. Do you have a definite reference to Ireland, as opposed to Scotland, another place in England, etc. that might have a reference to "Theyne...." Do you have a maiden ("nee") surname for a marriage that took place in Ireland? Do any of the sons have an unusual given name that could reflect mother's maiden name in disguise or another surname important to the family? The all-Ireland townland search at the Leitrim-Roscommon.com website shows some "sound-alikes" for Co. Kilkenny but nothing that starts with Th. When I set the search for Co. Kilkenny and "ends with y," I was returned 144 hits, which you can check out. If you feel certain that it begins with a T, then probably one of these locations: Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Tibberaghny 1,147 Kilkenny Iverk Tibberaghny Carrick on Suir Leinster Tinaslatty 257 Kilkenny Ida The Rower New Ross Leinster Tinnakeenly 188 Kilkenny Gowran Powerstown Thomastown Leinster Tinnakilly 262 Kilkenny Iverk Fiddown Carrick on Suir Leinster Tinnakilly 228 Kilkenny Shillelogher Killaloe Callan Leinster Tinnaranny 826 Kilkenny Ida Rosbercon New Ross Leinster Tinnascarty 112 Kilkenny Galmoy Sheffin Urlingford Leinster Tinnascolly 300 Kilkenny Ida The Rower New Ross Leinster Tinnaslatty 771 Kilkenny Galmoy Aharney Urlingford Leinster Tomakeany 191 Kilkenny Fassadinin Kilmacar Castlecomer Leinster Tullanvoolty 435 Kilkenny Galmoy Erke Urlingford Leinster ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris giles" <chrisgiles46@hotmail.com> To: <IRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: [IRELAND] Birthplace for Cove family > Hi > I am new to this list having just found that one of my ancestors was born > in Ireland. > The only problem is that I cannot understand the writing o the place that > he was born in. It could be Theynesiolly or Theyneswitty I just can't make > it out.... > It is written as his birthplace on the 1851 census where he was residing > at Tower Hamlets, Stepney, London. His name is John Cove born abt 1824. Is > there anyone out there that would be willing to decipher it for me? I can > send a copy of the census to you. His wife Eliza also has the birthplace > R.K. or S.K. does anyone know what this means? > Also I wonder was the surname Cove a common name and did they live in a > certain part in Ireland? > Thanking you Chris G ------------------------------ To contact the IRELAND list administrator, send an email to IRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. 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