Thank you Jean for the information with reference to Newcastlte, Co Down. It has taken me ages to reply 'cos I have not been 100% but you have cheered me up enormously. Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: <ireland-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:00 AM Subject: IRELAND Digest, Vol 3, Issue 354 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Newcastle Co Down (Carole) > 2. Re: Newcastle Co Down - All-Ireland IreAtlas 1851 Townland > Search Engine/Newcastle Towns & townlands (Jean R.) > 3. Frank McCOURT- A Limerick Christmas c. 1939 (Jean R.) > 4. "A Christmas Carol" -- G. K. CHESTERTON (1874-1936) (Jean R.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:07:32 -0000 > From: "Carole" <cbrailey@tiscali.co.uk> > Subject: [IRELAND] Newcastle Co Down > To: <IRELAND@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <DF27916BF82F4346B21BD004472EBF99@carolgnc5mx7fm> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I am trying to trace relatives born in Ireland and I have Newcastle listed > in one of the Census Records as a place of birth, does anyone have any > information showing records/resources for this or any other Newcastle in > Ireland? > > Carole > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:59:37 -0800 > From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> > Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Newcastle Co Down - All-Ireland IreAtlas 1851 > Townland Search Engine/Newcastle Towns & townlands > To: "Carole" <cbrailey@tiscali.co.uk>, <ireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <046901c9646f$d2233540$441ecac6@jean> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Carole - Here is data circa 1851 from the all-Ireland IreAtlas townland > search engine at the Leitrim-Roscommon website. You can likely narrow > things down by doing detective work at the locations to which they > emigrated - collecting records on known family members and quizzing > living > relatives as to family lore - North of Ireland or the South, a particular > county, etc. Once you have confirmed a particular location, then you can > begin searching in Ireland's CP (Civil Parish) and/or Catholic parish > records, concentrating on those and the PLU (Poor Law Union, nearest large > town/registration district) records. You can "google" Leitrim-Roscommon > and > the website will come right up, too. Has miscellaneous data on several > Irish counties. Jean > > Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province > NEWCASTLE T. xx Down Upper Iveagh, Lower part Kilcoe Kilkeel Ulster > NEWCASTLE T. xx Limerick Glenquin Monagay Newcastle Munster > NEWCASTLE T. xx Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster > NEWCASTLE T. xx Wicklow Newcastle Newcastle Lower Rathdrum Leinster > NEWCASTLE T. xx Tipperary, S.R. Iffa and Offa West Newcastle > Clogheen Munster > NEWCASTLE T. xx Limerick Glenquin Newcastle Newcastle Munster > Newcastle 477 Cork, E.R. Barretts Grenagh Cork Munster > Newcastle 508 Westmeath Fartullagh Clonfad Mullingar Leinster > Newcastle 845 Wexford Shelmaliere West Clongeen New Ross Leinster > Newcastle 218 Galway Tiaquin Monivea Loughrea Connaught > Newcastle 136 Galway Kilconnell Killallaghtan Ballinasloe Connaught > Newcastle 530 Longford Shrule Forgney Ballymahon Leinster > Newcastle 697 Limerick Clanwilliam Kilmurry Limerick Munster > Newcastle 512 Galway Galway Rahoon Galway Connaught > Newcastle 611 Galway Kilconnell Aughrim Ballinasloe Connaught > Newcastle 226 Down Ards Upper Slanes Downpatrick Ulster > Newcastle 232 Galway Tiaquin Kilkerrin Glennamaddy Connaught > Newcastle 808 Meath Fore Oldcastle Oldcastle Leinster > Newcastle 102 Wexford Shelmaliere East Kilpatrick Wexford Leinster > Newcastle 438 Mayo Gallen Meelick Swineford Connaught > Newcastle 474 Meath Lower Kells Moynalty Kells Leinster > Newcastle 176 Meath Morgallion Enniskeen Kells Leinster > Newcastle 162 Tipperary, S.R. Iffa and Offa West Templetenny > Clogheen Munster > Newcastle 358 Westmeath Fore Lickbla Granard Leinster > Newcastle 1,359 Meath Lower Moyfenrath Rathcore Trim Leinster > Newcastle 67 Westmeath Clonlonan Kilcleagh Athlone Leinster > Newcastle 237 Wexford Bargy Kilmannan Wexford Leinster > Newcastle Demesne 136 Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster > Newcastle Farm 280 Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster > Newcastle Lower 189 Wicklow Newcastle Newcastle Lower Rathdrum > Leinster > Newcastle Lower 72 Wexford Shelmaliere East Tikillin Wexford > Leinster > Newcastle Middle 295 Wicklow Newcastle Newcastle Lower Rathdrum > Leinster > Newcastle North 151 Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster > Newcastle South 183 Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster > Newcastle Upper 351 Wicklow Newcastle Newcastle Lower Rathdrum > Leinster > Newcastle Upper 208 Wexford Shelmaliere East Tikillin Wexford > Leinster > > 36 Total Matches > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carole" <cbrailey@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <IRELAND@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 12:07 AM > Subject: [IRELAND] Newcastle Co Down > > >>I am trying to trace relatives born in Ireland and I have Newcastle listed >>in one of the Census Records as a place of birth, does anyone have any >>information showing records/resources for this or any other Newcastle in >>Ireland? >> >> Carole > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:37:34 -0800 > From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> > Subject: [IRELAND] Frank McCOURT- A Limerick Christmas c. 1939 > To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <067801c964af$cb6f8e70$441ecac6@jean> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > SNIPPET: NY-born author/teacher Frank McCOURT writes about one Christmas > when the family returned to Ireland to live in his memoir, "Angela's > Ashes" > (1996). > > "Mam takes Malachy and me to the St. Vincent de Paul Society to stand in > the > queue and see if there's any chance of getting something for the Christmas > dinner -- a goose or a ham, but the man says everyone in Limerick is > desperate this Christmas. He gives her a docket for groceries at McGrath's > shop and another one for the butcher. No goose says the butcher, no ham. > No > fancy items when you bring the docket from the St. Vincent de Paul. What > you > can have now, missus, is black pudding and tripe or a sheep's head or a > nice > pig's head. No harm in a pig's head, missus, plenty of meat and children > love it, slice that cheek, slather it with mustard and you're in heaven, > though I suppose they wouldn't have the likes of that in America where > they're mad for the steak and all classes of poultry, flying, walking or > swimming itself. He tells Mam, no she can't have boiled bacon or sausages > and if she has any sense she'll take the pig's head before they're all > gone > the way the poor people of Limerick are clamoring for them. Mam says the > pig's head isn't right for Christmas and he says 'tis more than the Holy > Family had in that cold stable in Bethlehem long ago. You wouldn't find > them > complaining if someone offered them a nice fat pig's head. No, they > wouldn't > complain, says Mam, but they'd never eat a pig's head. They were Jewish > .... > The butcher takes the pig's head off a shelf ... wraps the head in > newspaper, hands it to Mam and says, Happy Christmas. Then he wraps up > some > sausages and tells her, Take these sausages for your breakfast on > Christmas > Day. Mam says, Oh, I can't afford sausages, and he says, Am I asking you > for > money? Am I? Takes these sausages. They might help make up for the lack of > a > goose or a ham. Sure, you don't to do that, says Mam. I know that, missus. > If I had to do it, I wouldn't. Mam says she has a pain in her back, that > I'll have to carry the pig's head. I hold it against my chest but it's > damp > and when the newspaper begins to fall away everyone can see the head. Mam > says, I'm ashamed of me life that the world should know we're having pig's > head for Christmas. Boys from Leamy's National School see me and they > point > and laugh. Aw, Gawd, look at Frankie McCourt an' his pig's snout. Is that > what the Yanks ate for Christmas dinner, Frankie? One calls to another, > Hey, > Christy, do you know how to ate a pig's head? No, I don't, Paddy. Grab him > by the ears an' chew the face offa him. And Christy says, Hey, Paddy, do > you > know the only part of the pig the McCourts don't ate? No, I don't Christy. > The only part they don't ate is the oink. After a few streets the > newspaper > is gone altogether and everyone can see the pig's head. His nose is flat > against my chest and pointing up at my chin and I feel sorry for him > because > he's dead and the world is laughing at him. My sister and two brothers are > dead, too, but if anyone laughed at them I'd hit them with a rock." . > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:33:07 -0800 > From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> > Subject: [IRELAND] "A Christmas Carol" -- G. K. CHESTERTON (1874-1936) > To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <066a01c964af$2c305830$441ecac6@jean> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > A CHRISTMAS CAROL > > The Christ-child lay on Mary's lap, > His hair was like a light. > (O weary, weary were the world, > But here is all aright.) > > The Christ-child lay on Mary's breast, > His hair was like a star. > (O stern and cunning are the kings, > But here the true hearts are.) > > The Christ-child lay on Mary's heart, > His hair was like a fire. > (O weary, weary is the world, > But here the world's desire.) > > The Christ-child stood at Mary's knee, > His hair was like a crown, > And all the flowers looked up at Him, > And all the stars looked down. > > -- G. K. Chesterton > G.K Chesterton, the great English convert to the Catholic faith, was known > as a remarkable and diverse but extremely influential English writer. His > inexhaustible and wide ranging portfolio of works includes journalistic > writing, poetry, biography, Christian, fantasy and detective genres. His > style is distinctive and always marked by humility, consistency, irony, > wit > and wonder. Some of his most enduring books include The Everlasting Man, > which led C.S. Lewis to become a Christian and The Napoleon of Notting > Hill > which inspired Michael Collins to lead a movement for Irish independence. > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRELAND list administrator, send an email to > IRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRELAND mailing list, send an email to > IRELAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRELAND Digest, Vol 3, Issue 354 > ***************************************