Hi I am new to this list having just found that one of my ancestors was born in Ireland. The only problem is that I cannot understand the writing o the place that he was born in. It could be Theynesiolly or Theyneswitty I just can't make it out.... It is written as his birthplace on the 1851 census where he was residing at Tower Hamlets, Stepney, London. His name is John Cove born abt 1824. Is there anyone out there that would be willing to decipher it for me? I can send a copy of the census to you. His wife Eliza also has the birthplace R.K. or S.K. does anyone know what this means? Also I wonder was the surname Cove a common name and did they live in a certain part in Ireland? Thanking you Chris G

Hi Chris - The surname search at www.ireland.com/ancestor/ shows that there were only three COVE households in the whole of Ireland (1848-1864 Primary Valuation) and ALL in Co. Kilkenny. For a small fee, they can tell you which civil parish/es they lived in. Do you have a definite reference to Ireland, as opposed to Scotland, another place in England, etc. that might have a reference to "Theyne...." Do you have a maiden ("nee") surname for a marriage that took place in Ireland? Do any of the sons have an unusual given name that could reflect mother's maiden name in disguise or another surname important to the family? The all-Ireland townland search at the Leitrim-Roscommon.com website shows some "sound-alikes" for Co. Kilkenny but nothing that starts with Th. When I set the search for Co. Kilkenny and "ends with y," I was returned 144 hits, which you can check out. If you feel certain that it begins with a T, then probably one of these locations: Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Tibberaghny 1,147 Kilkenny Iverk Tibberaghny Carrick on Suir Leinster Tinaslatty 257 Kilkenny Ida The Rower New Ross Leinster Tinnakeenly 188 Kilkenny Gowran Powerstown Thomastown Leinster Tinnakilly 262 Kilkenny Iverk Fiddown Carrick on Suir Leinster Tinnakilly 228 Kilkenny Shillelogher Killaloe Callan Leinster Tinnaranny 826 Kilkenny Ida Rosbercon New Ross Leinster Tinnascarty 112 Kilkenny Galmoy Sheffin Urlingford Leinster Tinnascolly 300 Kilkenny Ida The Rower New Ross Leinster Tinnaslatty 771 Kilkenny Galmoy Aharney Urlingford Leinster Tomakeany 191 Kilkenny Fassadinin Kilmacar Castlecomer Leinster Tullanvoolty 435 Kilkenny Galmoy Erke Urlingford Leinster ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris giles" <chrisgiles46@hotmail.com> To: <IRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: [IRELAND] Birthplace for Cove family > Hi > I am new to this list having just found that one of my ancestors was born > in Ireland. > The only problem is that I cannot understand the writing o the place that > he was born in. It could be Theynesiolly or Theyneswitty I just can't make > it out.... > It is written as his birthplace on the 1851 census where he was residing > at Tower Hamlets, Stepney, London. His name is John Cove born abt 1824. Is > there anyone out there that would be willing to decipher it for me? I can > send a copy of the census to you. His wife Eliza also has the birthplace > R.K. or S.K. does anyone know what this means? > Also I wonder was the surname Cove a common name and did they live in a > certain part in Ireland? > Thanking you Chris G

On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 2:11 PM, chris giles <chrisgiles46@hotmail.com>wrote: > Hi > I am new to this list having just found that one of my ancestors was born > in Ireland. > The only problem is that I cannot understand the writing o the place that > he was born in. It could be Theynesiolly or Theyneswitty I just can't make > it out.... Chris, Here are several possibilities but I am inclined to believe Co. Kilkenny is probably where you should concentrate your search. I found two John Cove's baptismal records both in Co. Kilkenny. The Irish Family History Foundation can be searched for free if one registers. If one wants to purchase the information it can be done online. The IreAtlas Townland Data Base Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Tinaslatty 257 Kilkenny Ida The Rower New Ross Leinster Tinnaslatty 771 Kilkenny Galmoy Aharney Urlingford Leinster Tullyratty 223 Down Lecale Lower Ballyculter Downpatrick Ulster http://www.seanruad.com/cgi-bin/iresrch Irish Family History Foundation Church Baptism Cove John 1809 Co. Kilkenny Church Baptism Cove John 1834 Co. Kilkenny http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/map.php Happy New Year, Mike Saunders Universal City, TX

The letters beside Eliza look like NK which usually means 'Not Known'. I agree that the birthplace for John looks like your version but it may be what the enumerator heard said rather than how it is actually spelt. This is not helpful of course! I have looked on Seanruad for a number of combinations of this word without success. The only COVEs in the Griffiths Valuations that I can see are in Kilkenny county. Others may have more useful suggestions. Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand - Subject: [IRELAND] Birthplace for Cove family > Hi > I am new to this list having just found that one of my ancestors was born > in Ireland. > The only problem is that I cannot understand the writing o the place that > he was born in. It could be Theynesiolly or Theyneswitty I just can't make > it out.... > It is written as his birthplace on the 1851 census where he was residing > at Tower Hamlets, Stepney, London. His name is John Cove born abt 1824. Is > there anyone out there that would be willing to decipher it for me? I can > send a copy of the census to you. His wife Eliza also has the birthplace > R.K. or S.K. does anyone know what this means? > Also I wonder was the surname Cove a common name and did they live in a > certain part in Ireland? > Thanking you Chris G >