HE PRAISES HIS WIFE White hands of languorous grace, Fair feet of stately pace And snowy-shining knees -- My love was made of these. Stars glimmered in her hair, Slim was she, satin-fair, Dark like seal's fur her brows Shadowed her cheek's fresh rose. What words can match its worth, That beauty closed in earth, That courteous, stately air, Winsome and shy and fair. To have known all this and be Tortured with memory Curse on this waking breath Makes me in love with death. This house now dark to me A lonely shell in place Of that unrivalled grace. -- Anon. 15th-16th century poem from the Irish, translator unknown to me.

http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/burial_laws.htm I did write this from various sources a while back but its laws then are still current I found it a very intriguing search. As one of my passions is my collection of Irish headstones. Cheers Mary Ellen hope your work is going well Cara

Am researching the above names which originated from either Tipperary or Cork. The people I am looking for are Michael MAHONEY, son of William MAHONEY and Catherine DUNN was born about 1854 and married Bridget HEFFERMAN about 1871. Bridget was boun about 1851 and was the daughter of Michael HEFFERMAN and Catherine RYAN. They had a number of children before leaving for Queensland in the 1880s. _____________________________________ Visit my website on http://www.chrismahoney.co.nz

I have John Kiely tried in Cork City in 1833 and transported to Australia in 1834. Kiely seems to originiate in both Cork and Limerick counties. Any suggestions on how I might find his location please? Thanks Bev in Western Australia -- Bev McGuinness, Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay, RMB 1017 DENMARK WA 6333 Tel: +61 8 9848 1781 Fax: +61 8 9848 1231 Web: http://www.denmarkwa.com.au/cc/

Why not simply sub to either the Irish Cemetery list or the Tombstone list via rootsweb. There is a lass on there other than myself who does lookups for the North of Ireland but I am a little out of depth in as much I am not sure where Loughrea is in regards to what County? Thats because I have done most of my research in the south sorry. And who were the people you were seeking also ? Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: <RTENNIHAN@aol.com> To: <irl-galway@rootsweb.com> Cc: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com>; <ireland-obits@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:10 AM Subject: [IRELAND] Looking for Cemetery in Ireland > Hello. > I am going to Ireland at the end of May and I would like to > find > the Cemetery that my family is buried in, in Loughrea. they would of died > in > the middle to late 1800's. What I am trying to find out is, are there any > cemeteries in Loughrea? and if so, how many. Any information will be > appreciated. They lived on Main St and Bride St and Church St at the time > of their > deaths if that is of any help. > > Best wishes. > Bob. > Researching, Tannian?Tannyan, and Langley from Galway. > O'connor, Madigan and Culhane from Tipp. > O'Marea/O'Mara from Limerick. > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De > cemailfooterNO62) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.7/1894 - Release Date: 14/01/2009 7:27 PM

Hefferman was entered and out popped Heffernan. What you see is what your get (or what is in the file) Bob ======================================== Jean R. wrote: > Hi Bob - Appreciative of your input on the list. Wondering if your source > have any HEFFERMAN (a var. of the far more common spelling of HEFFERNAN)? > Of course, for that matter, spelling can be skewed on old records and > researchers should keep an open mind in that regard.... > =========================

Thank you Jean for the information with reference to Newcastlte, Co Down. It has taken me ages to reply 'cos I have not been 100% but you have cheered me up enormously. Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: <ireland-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:00 AM Subject: IRELAND Digest, Vol 3, Issue 354 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Newcastle Co Down (Carole) > 2. Re: Newcastle Co Down - All-Ireland IreAtlas 1851 Townland > Search Engine/Newcastle Towns & townlands (Jean R.) > 3. Frank McCOURT- A Limerick Christmas c. 1939 (Jean R.) > 4. "A Christmas Carol" -- G. K. CHESTERTON (1874-1936) (Jean R.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:07:32 -0000 > From: "Carole" <cbrailey@tiscali.co.uk> > Subject: [IRELAND] Newcastle Co Down > To: <IRELAND@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <DF27916BF82F4346B21BD004472EBF99@carolgnc5mx7fm> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I am trying to trace relatives born in Ireland and I have Newcastle listed > in one of the Census Records as a place of birth, does anyone have any > information showing records/resources for this or any other Newcastle in > Ireland? > > Carole > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:59:37 -0800 > From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> > Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Newcastle Co Down - All-Ireland IreAtlas 1851 > Townland Search Engine/Newcastle Towns & townlands > To: "Carole" <cbrailey@tiscali.co.uk>, <ireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <046901c9646f$d2233540$441ecac6@jean> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Carole - Here is data circa 1851 from the all-Ireland IreAtlas townland > search engine at the Leitrim-Roscommon website. You can likely narrow > things down by doing detective work at the locations to which they > emigrated - collecting records on known family members and quizzing > living > relatives as to family lore - North of Ireland or the South, a particular > county, etc. Once you have confirmed a particular location, then you can > begin searching in Ireland's CP (Civil Parish) and/or Catholic parish > records, concentrating on those and the PLU (Poor Law Union, nearest large > town/registration district) records. You can "google" Leitrim-Roscommon > and > the website will come right up, too. Has miscellaneous data on several > Irish counties. Jean > > Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province > NEWCASTLE T. xx Down Upper Iveagh, Lower part Kilcoe Kilkeel Ulster > NEWCASTLE T. xx Limerick Glenquin Monagay Newcastle Munster > NEWCASTLE T. xx Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster > NEWCASTLE T. xx Wicklow Newcastle Newcastle Lower Rathdrum Leinster > NEWCASTLE T. xx Tipperary, S.R. Iffa and Offa West Newcastle > Clogheen Munster > NEWCASTLE T. xx Limerick Glenquin Newcastle Newcastle Munster > Newcastle 477 Cork, E.R. Barretts Grenagh Cork Munster > Newcastle 508 Westmeath Fartullagh Clonfad Mullingar Leinster > Newcastle 845 Wexford Shelmaliere West Clongeen New Ross Leinster > Newcastle 218 Galway Tiaquin Monivea Loughrea Connaught > Newcastle 136 Galway Kilconnell Killallaghtan Ballinasloe Connaught > Newcastle 530 Longford Shrule Forgney Ballymahon Leinster > Newcastle 697 Limerick Clanwilliam Kilmurry Limerick Munster > Newcastle 512 Galway Galway Rahoon Galway Connaught > Newcastle 611 Galway Kilconnell Aughrim Ballinasloe Connaught > Newcastle 226 Down Ards Upper Slanes Downpatrick Ulster > Newcastle 232 Galway Tiaquin Kilkerrin Glennamaddy Connaught > Newcastle 808 Meath Fore Oldcastle Oldcastle Leinster > Newcastle 102 Wexford Shelmaliere East Kilpatrick Wexford Leinster > Newcastle 438 Mayo Gallen Meelick Swineford Connaught > Newcastle 474 Meath Lower Kells Moynalty Kells Leinster > Newcastle 176 Meath Morgallion Enniskeen Kells Leinster > Newcastle 162 Tipperary, S.R. Iffa and Offa West Templetenny > Clogheen Munster > Newcastle 358 Westmeath Fore Lickbla Granard Leinster > Newcastle 1,359 Meath Lower Moyfenrath Rathcore Trim Leinster > Newcastle 67 Westmeath Clonlonan Kilcleagh Athlone Leinster > Newcastle 237 Wexford Bargy Kilmannan Wexford Leinster > Newcastle Demesne 136 Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster > Newcastle Farm 280 Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster > Newcastle Lower 189 Wicklow Newcastle Newcastle Lower Rathdrum > Leinster > Newcastle Lower 72 Wexford Shelmaliere East Tikillin Wexford > Leinster > Newcastle Middle 295 Wicklow Newcastle Newcastle Lower Rathdrum > Leinster > Newcastle North 151 Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster > Newcastle South 183 Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster > Newcastle Upper 351 Wicklow Newcastle Newcastle Lower Rathdrum > Leinster > Newcastle Upper 208 Wexford Shelmaliere East Tikillin Wexford > Leinster > > 36 Total Matches > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carole" <cbrailey@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <IRELAND@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 12:07 AM > Subject: [IRELAND] Newcastle Co Down > > >>I am trying to trace relatives born in Ireland and I have Newcastle listed >>in one of the Census Records as a place of birth, does anyone have any >>information showing records/resources for this or any other Newcastle in >>Ireland? >> >> Carole > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:37:34 -0800 > From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> > Subject: [IRELAND] Frank McCOURT- A Limerick Christmas c. 1939 > To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <067801c964af$cb6f8e70$441ecac6@jean> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > SNIPPET: NY-born author/teacher Frank McCOURT writes about one Christmas > when the family returned to Ireland to live in his memoir, "Angela's > Ashes" > (1996). > > "Mam takes Malachy and me to the St. Vincent de Paul Society to stand in > the > queue and see if there's any chance of getting something for the Christmas > dinner -- a goose or a ham, but the man says everyone in Limerick is > desperate this Christmas. He gives her a docket for groceries at McGrath's > shop and another one for the butcher. No goose says the butcher, no ham. > No > fancy items when you bring the docket from the St. Vincent de Paul. What > you > can have now, missus, is black pudding and tripe or a sheep's head or a > nice > pig's head. No harm in a pig's head, missus, plenty of meat and children > love it, slice that cheek, slather it with mustard and you're in heaven, > though I suppose they wouldn't have the likes of that in America where > they're mad for the steak and all classes of poultry, flying, walking or > swimming itself. He tells Mam, no she can't have boiled bacon or sausages > and if she has any sense she'll take the pig's head before they're all > gone > the way the poor people of Limerick are clamoring for them. Mam says the > pig's head isn't right for Christmas and he says 'tis more than the Holy > Family had in that cold stable in Bethlehem long ago. You wouldn't find > them > complaining if someone offered them a nice fat pig's head. No, they > wouldn't > complain, says Mam, but they'd never eat a pig's head. They were Jewish > .... > The butcher takes the pig's head off a shelf ... wraps the head in > newspaper, hands it to Mam and says, Happy Christmas. Then he wraps up > some > sausages and tells her, Take these sausages for your breakfast on > Christmas > Day. Mam says, Oh, I can't afford sausages, and he says, Am I asking you > for > money? Am I? Takes these sausages. They might help make up for the lack of > a > goose or a ham. Sure, you don't to do that, says Mam. I know that, missus. > If I had to do it, I wouldn't. Mam says she has a pain in her back, that > I'll have to carry the pig's head. I hold it against my chest but it's > damp > and when the newspaper begins to fall away everyone can see the head. Mam > says, I'm ashamed of me life that the world should know we're having pig's > head for Christmas. Boys from Leamy's National School see me and they > point > and laugh. Aw, Gawd, look at Frankie McCourt an' his pig's snout. Is that > what the Yanks ate for Christmas dinner, Frankie? One calls to another, > Hey, > Christy, do you know how to ate a pig's head? No, I don't, Paddy. Grab him > by the ears an' chew the face offa him. And Christy says, Hey, Paddy, do > you > know the only part of the pig the McCourts don't ate? No, I don't Christy. > The only part they don't ate is the oink. After a few streets the > newspaper > is gone altogether and everyone can see the pig's head. His nose is flat > against my chest and pointing up at my chin and I feel sorry for him > because > he's dead and the world is laughing at him. My sister and two brothers are > dead, too, but if anyone laughed at them I'd hit them with a rock." . > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:33:07 -0800 > From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> > Subject: [IRELAND] "A Christmas Carol" -- G. K. CHESTERTON (1874-1936) > To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <066a01c964af$2c305830$441ecac6@jean> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > A CHRISTMAS CAROL > > The Christ-child lay on Mary's lap, > His hair was like a light. > (O weary, weary were the world, > But here is all aright.) > > The Christ-child lay on Mary's breast, > His hair was like a star. > (O stern and cunning are the kings, > But here the true hearts are.) > > The Christ-child lay on Mary's heart, > His hair was like a fire. > (O weary, weary is the world, > But here the world's desire.) > > The Christ-child stood at Mary's knee, > His hair was like a crown, > And all the flowers looked up at Him, > And all the stars looked down. > > -- G. K. Chesterton > G.K Chesterton, the great English convert to the Catholic faith, was known > as a remarkable and diverse but extremely influential English writer. His > inexhaustible and wide ranging portfolio of works includes journalistic > writing, poetry, biography, Christian, fantasy and detective genres. His > style is distinctive and always marked by humility, consistency, irony, > wit > and wonder. Some of his most enduring books include The Everlasting Man, > which led C.S. Lewis to become a Christian and The Napoleon of Notting > Hill > which inspired Michael Collins to lead a movement for Irish independence. > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRELAND list administrator, send an email to > IRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRELAND mailing list, send an email to > IRELAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRELAND Digest, Vol 3, Issue 354 > ***************************************

Chris, Found these surnames for Mahony and Heffernan in Cork and Tipp. The FHC may have this film in house. I have no other info on this surname. Bob Cdn. ------------------------------------------------ MAHONY, Bridget Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 9 Jul 1867 Birthplace: 959, Killeagh, Cork, Ire Recorded in: Cork, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Denis MAHONY Mother: Ellen HEFFERNAN Source: FHL Film 101153 Dates: 1867 - 1867 -------------------------- MAHONY, William Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 8 Nov 1873 Birthplace: Bansha, Tipp, Ire Recorded in: Tipperary, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Thomas MAHONY Mother: Mary HEFFERNAN Source: FHL Film 255890 Dates: 1873 - 1874 ==================================== Chris Mahoney wrote: > The people I am looking for are Michael MAHONEY, son of William MAHONEY and > Catherine DUNN was born about 1854 and married Bridget HEFFERMAN about 1871. > Bridget was boun about 1851 and was the daughter of Michael HEFFERMAN and > Catherine RYAN. > ==================================

Hi Bob - Appreciative of your input on the list. Wondering if your source have any HEFFERMAN (a var. of the far more common spelling of HEFFERNAN)? Of course, for that matter, spelling can be skewed on old records and researchers should keep an open mind in that regard. Chris - You wrote that they had a number of children before leaving for Queensland in the 1880s. This book may be out of print. David O'Lorcain/Larkin of Queensland, Australia, published a book in 1998 with the title "Pushing Up Shamrocks." The book gives background information, by the way of essays, on the Irish in Queensland, but the bulk of the work consists of an index to some 6,000 biographical details of Irish-born persons who died or were buried in Queensland. Approximately 2,700 entries were supplied by 475 contributors, and the remainder were abstracted from Pioneer Registers and other biographical books as well as numerous burial registers, cemetery inscriptions and miscellaneous sources. Information is presented under the following headings: Surname; Christian name/s; Year of birth; County of birth; Year of death; Place or death or burial; Occupation; Number assigned to the person contributing the information, many of which can be with name/address in a separate part of the book. More detailed information may be acquired in writing to that contributor. You might also want to write to the author if you can find a viable e-mail address for him, to see if there is any information on your surnames of interest. I know of one person, years back, who contacted the author; he wrote and told me that he had found his kin and was in touch with descendants in Australia! As I understand it, O'Lorcain is the author of many books and is Irish-Australian. Doubtless, there are copies in genealogy libraries worldwide! Perhaps you can also find one with that resource who can do a look-up for you by going to the "Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" website. Just google that phrase. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "hiflyte" <hiflyte@telus.net> To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Dunn, Hefferman, Mahoney, Ryan > Chris, > > Found these surnames for Mahony and Heffernan in Cork and Tipp. > The FHC may have this film in house. > > I have no other info on this surname. > > Bob > Cdn. <snip> > > Chris Mahoney wrote: >> The people I am looking for are Michael MAHONEY, son of William MAHONEY >> and >> Catherine DUNN was born about 1854 and married Bridget HEFFERMAN about >> 1871. >> Bridget was boun about 1851 and was the daughter of Michael HEFFERMAN and >> Catherine RYAN. >> > ==================================

Jean~       You are quite correct re: Catholic and Protestant burials in the same cemetery.  In County Wexford, Duncormick cemetery which surrounds the church has both.  Over the centuries the church changed denomination according to the political climate.  When we were seeking graves of family, this was relayed to us.  Currently it is Catholic.  The graveyard has been lovingly restored with placement of stones attempted on the correct plots.  The church interior and exterior has been restored too..   Mary Ellen Chambers --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Jean R. <jeanrice@cet.com> wrote: From: Jean R. <jeanrice@cet.com> Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Valuation Office (Dublin) - Looking for Cemeteries (Graveyards) in Ireland To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 5:17 PM Hi Pete - Yes - that is the reference book I was thinking of. Thanks for sharing! Are you in a deep freeze over there where you live? I've also heard that in some instances Catholics were buried in Protestant graveyards. If you definitely know where your kin lived, check out this resource: http://www.valoff.ie/Genealogy.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <PeteScherm@aol.com> To: <RTENNIHAN@aol.com>; <ireland@rootsweb.com>; <jeanrice@cet.com> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Looking for Cemetery in Ireland > Bob asks: > > === are there any cemeteries in Loughrea? and if so, how many. === > > Bob, > > In her letter, I think Jean may have been referring to Brian Mitchell's > 1990 > book. "A Guide to Irish Churches and Graveyards". It's quite useful, but > by > no means complete. But at least, it should give you a minimum of > cemeteries in > a given location - there may be others. <snip> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If I have not said it before, I will say it now, sometimes I quite enjoy your offerings. I don't know where you find the time, but I appreciate it. Lieutenant-Colonel C. O'Cadhla. > From: jeanrice@cet.com> To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:44:13 -0800> Subject: [IRELAND] Cromwellian settler, John LANGLEY - Last will and testament (1674) - KENRICK/RICHARDS> > SNIPPET: "I, John LANGLEY, born in Wincanton, in Somersetshire, and settled> in Ireland in the year 1651, now in my right mind and wits, do make my will> in my own handwriting. I do leave all my house, goods, and farm at Black> Kettle of 253 acres to my son, commonly called 'Stubborn Jack,' to him and> his heirs forever, provided he marries a Protestant, but not Alice KENRICK,> who called me 'Oliver's whelp.' My new buckskin breeches and my silver> tobacco stopper with 'J. L.' on the top I give to Richard RICHARDS, my> comrade, who helped me off at the storming of Clonmel when I was shot> through the leg. My said son John shall keep my body above ground six days> and six nights after I am dead; and Grace KENRICK shall lay me out, who> shall have for so doing five shillings. My body shall be put upon the oak> table in the brown room, and fifty Irishmen shall be invited to my wake and> every one shall have two quarts of the best aqua vitae, and each one one> skein, dish and knife before him, and when the liquor is out nail up the> coffin, and commit me to the earth whence I came. This is my will; witness> my hand this 3rd day of March, 1674."> > -- Excerpt, "The Irish, A Treasury of Art and Literature," ed. Leslie Conron> Carola (1993)> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Keep in touch and up to date with friends and family. Make the connection now. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/

Bob asks: === are there any cemeteries in Loughrea? and if so, how many. === Bob, In her letter, I think Jean may have been referring to Brian Mitchell's 1990 book. "A Guide to Irish Churches and Graveyards". It's quite useful, but by no means complete. But at least, it should give you a minimum of cemeteries in a given location - there may be others. For Loughrea, this book shows a graveyard attached to the RC church in Abbey Lane, a cemetery at St. Bridget's on The Hill (no church listing there), a C of I church with graveyard on Church Lane and an RC church (no graveyard listing) on Bride Street. Mitchell has the following advice regarding non-RC graveyards: "Generally, Church of Ireland graveyards should be examined irrespective of an ancestor's religion." There is a separate graveyard in Loughrea civil parish, in the townland of St. Laurencesfields, which lies immediately west of Loughrea town. From the Discovery map 52, a large enclosed area is shown in the townland, less than a mile from downtown Loughrea (a good place to avoid - the traffic's a killer......although there is a bypass now, so it may be not so bad). There is also a cilli/n (a childrens' burial ground) shown within this enclosure. I would imagine that this is the major town burial ground. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

I wrote them in 1999...it's worth a try no matter the date, and they may give you a contact in Belfast...also try this web stie...ed http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ On 1/17/09, Beth McBride <MCBETH7@aol.com> wrote: > Ed, > How long ago did you write to Sligo Library? I'm tempted to do > that. However my Patrick SHANNON was born there about 1795 and I > wonder if church records go back that far? And I don't know where in > Sligo. I have his marriage record in 1826 in Belfast......St > Patrick's RC. They moved to NY in 1827. > Beth > On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Edward Loftus wrote: > >> One of the best sources of information in Ireland is the library in >> Sligo. I sent them a $20 donation(and thought I was being a cheap >> skate) and they sent me back for all Ireland the information they have >> for Griffiths's...I sent them all the names I was researching. Very >> helpful people. >> >> ed >> >> On 1/17/09, RTENNIHAN@aol.com <RTENNIHAN@aol.com> wrote: >>> Hello. >>> I am going to Ireland at the end of May and I would >>> like to >>> find >>> the Cemetery that my family is buried in, in Loughrea. they would >>> of died >>> in >>> the middle to late 1800's. What I am trying to find out is, are >>> there any >>> cemeteries in Loughrea? and if so, how many. Any information will be >>> appreciated. They lived on Main St and Bride St and Church St at >>> the time >>> of their >>> deaths if that is of any help. >>> >>> Best wishes. >>> Bob. >>> Researching, Tannian?Tannyan, and Langley from Galway. >>> O'connor, Madigan and Culhane from Tipp. >>> O'Marea/O'Mara from Limerick. >>> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in >>> just 2 easy >>> steps! >>> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol? >>> redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072% >>> 26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De >>> cemailfooterNO62) >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for your reply, Ed. I'll try it. Beth On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Edward Loftus wrote: > I wrote them in 1999...it's worth a try no matter the date, and they > may give you a contact in Belfast...also try this web stie...ed > > > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ > > On 1/17/09, Beth McBride <MCBETH7@aol.com> wrote: >> Ed, >> How long ago did you write to Sligo Library? I'm tempted to do >> that. However my Patrick SHANNON was born there about 1795 and I >> wonder if church records go back that far? And I don't know where in >> Sligo. I have his marriage record in 1826 in Belfast......St >> Patrick's RC. They moved to NY in 1827. >> Beth >> On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Edward Loftus wrote: >> >>> One of the best sources of information in Ireland is the library in >>> Sligo. I sent them a $20 donation(and thought I was being a cheap >>> skate) and they sent me back for all Ireland the information they >>> have >>> for Griffiths's...I sent them all the names I was researching. Very >>> helpful people. >>> >>> ed >>> >>> On 1/17/09, RTENNIHAN@aol.com <RTENNIHAN@aol.com> wrote: >>>> Hello. >>>> I am going to Ireland at the end of May and I would >>>> like to >>>> find >>>> the Cemetery that my family is buried in, in Loughrea. they would >>>> of died >>>> in >>>> the middle to late 1800's. What I am trying to find out is, are >>>> there any >>>> cemeteries in Loughrea? and if so, how many. Any information >>>> will be >>>> appreciated. They lived on Main St and Bride St and Church St at >>>> the time >>>> of their >>>> deaths if that is of any help. >>>> >>>> Best wishes. >>>> Bob. >>>> Researching, Tannian?Tannyan, and Langley from Galway. >>>> O'connor, Madigan and Culhane from Tipp. >>>> O'Marea/O'Mara from Limerick. >>>> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in >>>> just 2 easy >>>> steps! >>>> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol? >>>> redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072% >>>> 26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De >>>> cemailfooterNO62) >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- >>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

One of the best sources of information in Ireland is the library in Sligo. I sent them a $20 donation(and thought I was being a cheap skate) and they sent me back for all Ireland the information they have for Griffiths's...I sent them all the names I was researching. Very helpful people. ed On 1/17/09, RTENNIHAN@aol.com <RTENNIHAN@aol.com> wrote: > Hello. > I am going to Ireland at the end of May and I would like to > find > the Cemetery that my family is buried in, in Loughrea. they would of died > in > the middle to late 1800's. What I am trying to find out is, are there any > cemeteries in Loughrea? and if so, how many. Any information will be > appreciated. They lived on Main St and Bride St and Church St at the time > of their > deaths if that is of any help. > > Best wishes. > Bob. > Researching, Tannian?Tannyan, and Langley from Galway. > O'connor, Madigan and Culhane from Tipp. > O'Marea/O'Mara from Limerick. > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De > cemailfooterNO62) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Ed, How long ago did you write to Sligo Library? I'm tempted to do that. However my Patrick SHANNON was born there about 1795 and I wonder if church records go back that far? And I don't know where in Sligo. I have his marriage record in 1826 in Belfast......St Patrick's RC. They moved to NY in 1827. Beth On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Edward Loftus wrote: > One of the best sources of information in Ireland is the library in > Sligo. I sent them a $20 donation(and thought I was being a cheap > skate) and they sent me back for all Ireland the information they have > for Griffiths's...I sent them all the names I was researching. Very > helpful people. > > ed > > On 1/17/09, RTENNIHAN@aol.com <RTENNIHAN@aol.com> wrote: >> Hello. >> I am going to Ireland at the end of May and I would >> like to >> find >> the Cemetery that my family is buried in, in Loughrea. they would >> of died >> in >> the middle to late 1800's. What I am trying to find out is, are >> there any >> cemeteries in Loughrea? and if so, how many. Any information will be >> appreciated. They lived on Main St and Bride St and Church St at >> the time >> of their >> deaths if that is of any help. >> >> Best wishes. >> Bob. >> Researching, Tannian?Tannyan, and Langley from Galway. >> O'connor, Madigan and Culhane from Tipp. >> O'Marea/O'Mara from Limerick. >> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in >> just 2 easy >> steps! >> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol? >> redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072% >> 26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De >> cemailfooterNO62) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pete - Yes - that is the reference book I was thinking of. Thanks for sharing! Are you in a deep freeze over there where you live? I've also heard that in some instances Catholics were buried in Protestant graveyards. If you definitely know where your kin lived, check out this resource: http://www.valoff.ie/Genealogy.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <PeteScherm@aol.com> To: <RTENNIHAN@aol.com>; <ireland@rootsweb.com>; <jeanrice@cet.com> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Looking for Cemetery in Ireland > Bob asks: > > === are there any cemeteries in Loughrea? and if so, how many. === > > Bob, > > In her letter, I think Jean may have been referring to Brian Mitchell's > 1990 > book. "A Guide to Irish Churches and Graveyards". It's quite useful, but > by > no means complete. But at least, it should give you a minimum of > cemeteries in > a given location - there may be others. <snip>

SNIPPET: "I, John LANGLEY, born in Wincanton, in Somersetshire, and settled in Ireland in the year 1651, now in my right mind and wits, do make my will in my own handwriting. I do leave all my house, goods, and farm at Black Kettle of 253 acres to my son, commonly called 'Stubborn Jack,' to him and his heirs forever, provided he marries a Protestant, but not Alice KENRICK, who called me 'Oliver's whelp.' My new buckskin breeches and my silver tobacco stopper with 'J. L.' on the top I give to Richard RICHARDS, my comrade, who helped me off at the storming of Clonmel when I was shot through the leg. My said son John shall keep my body above ground six days and six nights after I am dead; and Grace KENRICK shall lay me out, who shall have for so doing five shillings. My body shall be put upon the oak table in the brown room, and fifty Irishmen shall be invited to my wake and every one shall have two quarts of the best aqua vitae, and each one one skein, dish and knife before him, and when the liquor is out nail up the coffin, and commit me to the earth whence I came. This is my will; witness my hand this 3rd day of March, 1674." -- Excerpt, "The Irish, A Treasury of Art and Literature," ed. Leslie Conron Carola (1993)

Hi Bob - Lucky you! Be sure and tell us about your adventures when you get back! I found several transcribed old directories and some Griffith's valuation (mid-1850s) material on the web by "googling" Loughrea. Check out http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/galway/loughrea.php Dr. Jane Lyons has a informative site: http://www.from-ireland.net/gal/galwayconts.htm Looking briefly for your surnames of interest from the former, I came across these two entries from Griffith's Valuation. Tanian Judith King, S Entry Loughrea Galway Langley William Bride St. Loughrea Galway What religion did your people practice, any idea? Church of Ireland, other? From a website: Loughrea is the cathedral town of the diocese of Clonfert. There are two churches in the parish: the Carmelite church and St. Brendan's cathedral. The Carmelite fathers have been in Loughrea since the year 1300. The foundation stone of the cathedral was laid on October 10, 1897. Although small in size the cathedral is large in its interior magnificence. It has been described as the jewel in the crown of the Celtic Revival. Loughrea gets its name from the Irish Baile Locha Riach, the town of the Grey Lake. The cathedral lies on the northern shore of this beautiful lake. My old (1980's) tour guide: "Delightfully set on the N shore of Lough Rea, St. Brendan's Cathedral (Catholic), a somewhat dull-looking cathedral, has fine stained glass windows by Sarah Purser, Evie Hone and embroideries designed by Jack Yeats. Magnificent repository of modern Irish ecclesiastical art. There is also a Carmelite monastery, founded by Richard deBurgo, 1300, in excellent repair (wheelchair accessible) with an adjacent modern abbey." I know that there is a circa 15-year-old published book found in most genealogy libraries that provides the name of each and every church in Ireland, the address, and tells whether or not there is a cemetery connected to same; also gives the street addresses of cemeteries in each county not connected to any church. I believe it has the words Ireland churches and cemeteries in the title. Might be something similiar transcribed on the Internet, too. Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RTENNIHAN@aol.com> > To: <irl-galway@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com>; <ireland-obits@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:10 AM > Subject: [IRELAND] Looking for Cemetery in Ireland > > >> Hello. >> I am going to Ireland at the end of May and I would like to >> find >> the Cemetery that my family is buried in, in Loughrea. they would of >> died in >> the middle to late 1800's. What I am trying to find out is, are there >> any >> cemeteries in Loughrea? and if so, how many. Any information will be >> appreciated. They lived on Main St and Bride St and Church St at the >> time of their >> deaths if that is of any help. >> >> Best wishes. >> Bob. >> Researching, Tannian?Tannyan, and Langley from Galway. >> O'connor, Madigan and Culhane from Tipp. >> O'Marea/O'Mara from Limerick.

SNIPPET: Readers of Dublin's "Ireland of the Welcomes" magazine shared their impressions of the Emerald Isle in the March/April 2008 issue and sent along photos that were published in that issue: James W. GALLOWAY, Bowie, TX wrote: "St. Brendan's Cathedral in Loughrea, some twenty miles east of Galway Bay in the west of Ireland, is a modest structure enclosing glorious Celtic Revival stained glass windows and a beautiful series of Stations of the Cross. At the entrance to the Cathedral a lady graciously greeted my wife, Margaret and me. She said that her grandfather's funeral was to start in an hour or so, but to please enter and enjoy the artwork, that her grandfather so enjoyed the sanctuary of St. Brendan's and that he would be appreciative if others shared his joy. The sunlight was especially intense that day and caused the windows to sparkle and glow like an assemblage of fine jewels. In addition, a series of Stations of the Cross and other artwork about the sanctuary made for a stunning aesthetic experience. Our visit to this lovely place of worship inspired me to paint my own interpretive series of Stations of the Cross" - (which are shown in the "Afterthought" section of the magazine). "These hardedge acrylic works, each 12" x 15" are designed to express dynamic Holy Trinity associations in contemporary colours, shapes and perspectives. The awe-inspiring stained-glass windows undoubtedly influenced the design of each painting. I've added a fifteenth Station, as have others, to celebrate the Resurrection and I hope that the grandfather would be particularly pleased. The graceful ambience of St. Brendan's Cathedral and the kind Irish greeting that we received sustained me throughout the several years spent creating the series. In all our travels we've rarely sensed so much grace contained within a single occasion." Maureen McMANUS, High River, Alberta, Canada: "I have lost count of the humber of times I have shown my friends your article by Jo KERRIGAN, 'An Irishman's Home is his Castle,' about Cyril CULLEN, the fashion designer featured in your July/Aug 2006 issue. This is because I was fortunate enough to visit Farney Castle in May of last year, while staying with my cousin Carol LEWIS, in Templemore, Co. Tipperary. I had told Carol about the article and she arranged for us to go to the castle. We were welcomed by Cyril's wife, Margie, who showed us their knitwear and Parian porcelain shop, where I bought a porcelain china swan made by Cyril. Margie then took us all on an interesting tour of historic Farney Castle, where we stood in the guards' small, circular stone-walled room in the tower which dates back to 1495. My favourite room used by the CULLEN family is their drawing room with musical instruments on show. After the tour, in between the rain showers, Carol and I posed for a photograph on the front steps where we were joined by the CULLEN's dog Oscar, and a nearby peacock who also wanted to be included. Incidentally, the pink jacket which I wore that day was made by Avoca Handweavers, in Co. Wicklow. I bought it in a second-hand clothing shop in High River, Alberta, Canada. When my Irish mother married my English father, she named their house in Sussex, England 'Avoca,' but then that's another story ..." Luanne NELSON, Newaygo, MI shared: "The wonderful woman shown in this photograph greeted us at the Rock of Cashel each time that we stopped there during our stay in Ireland. We stayed at a B&B just up the street and enjoyed shopping at Rock House Stop & Shop several times, with the Bru Boru centre just next door, it was a great location. I wish I had gotten her name. Her ready smile and helpful nature made us feel so comfortable and welcome. She gave us wonderful ideas for gift selections, local places of interest, restaurants and things to do. Even though our trip was over two years ago now, I can still picture her behind the counter patiently answering our many questions about the area. What a joy she was -- to me, this friendly, generous woman epitomizes the best of Ireland, the reason I went and the reason I hope to return. We were well treated wherever we went, but her natural hospitality stands out far above the rest." (My note - The ancient Rock of Cashel ruins near Thurles, Co. Tipperary is, indeed, one of Ireland's great historic sites.) William James BEWDLEY, Ontario, Canada: "The Peterborough, Ontario area of Canada where I grew up was settled by a high ratio of people who came from all parts of Ireland in the 1800s. By reading the names of the villages and towns on an Ontario map, it is easy to see where many called home in the 'Old Country.' In my tours of Ireland there is always time to visit these 'home' towns and try to visualize the families as they moved out on their departure day into the great unknown on the other side of the Atlantic" ... (A suggestion) - "The type and layout changes made in your Sept-Oct 2007 issue was appreciated - the magazine comes across smoother in this format .... An interesting addition for each issue would be personal interest, non-political stories that date prior to a century ago. The viewpoint from people that were living the events of life at that time are much warmer than the viewpoint taken from a strictly historical one." (The editor replied, "Your suggestion for a 'One Hundred Years Ago' type of column is tempting.")