ACCOUNT: The following was written in the USA in 1930 by Daniel E. Harrington and found among his personal papers. These entries were written over a three-year period and gives a very interesting glimpse into the hardships of emigrants in the 19th century. Part 1: 1930 - "My father, John Harrington (Causkie) was born in the parish of Eyeries on 21 June 1819. His father John Harrington, as near as my information goes, was a native of Castletown proper (Castletownbere) Co. Cork. My great-great-grandfather also bore the name of John. He had several brothers, two of them Daniel and Cornelius being pressed into military service in the wars between England and France in the last part of the 18th century, both losing their lives in the conflict. Bere Island was the birthplace of my mother. Her name was Mary Harrington (Kebugh) - (Kebugh a secondary surname commonly used on the Beara Peninsula). My grandfather's wife died in Ireland about 1830, leaving three children, two boys and one girl, my father then being the oldest, and about eleven years. A second marriage took place in a few years, this time to Margaret Harrington from the adjoining Co. Kerry. She had two children, Mary and Daniel, who came to this country after my grandfather preceded her with my father and his brother Timothy. My grandfather and his two sons, John (my father) and Timothy, landed in Quebec, Canada, in June 1837, having left their home on St. Patrick's Day of that year. After they had secured a footing they sent for the family left at home, consisting of my father's own sister Hannah and my grandfather's second wife with her babies. During my grandfather's three months' voyage the ship fever had spread through the hapless emigrants, so that half of them were sick, many dying before they reached the Grand Banks of Newfoundland. It was an everyday occurrence to see from one to three corpses committed to the deep long before those unhappy voyagers sighted land. Among those on the sick list was my father's brother Timothy. My father knew the "yards" and could ply the oars like a real sailor. This kept him above the deck a good deal, thus saving his health on the trip over. But by the time the ship made quarantine below Quebec all hopes of saving Timothy's life had been given up by the doctors in charge. Hundreds of Irish emigrants were being buried in mud trenches on the shore of the St. Lawrence River. My grandfather was an eye-witness to this during the week that they waited for a final decision on Timothy's condition. When the word came to him that it was no use waiting longer, he asked for and received permission to dig a grave for Timothy high up and away from the water, so that at some future date he would return and give his son a more respectable resting place. My grandfather now set out for the copper mines of Stratford, Vermont, about three hundred miles away. Fortunately he had enough to pay for his passage via boat on the river to Montreal, then by stagecoach to the nearest point on Lake Champlain, boat again to Burlington and then by foot and anyway he could to Stratford. This journey took about seven days. He went to work at once in the mine as a foreman." - to be continued.

SNIPPET: FYI - The handsome restored Granary building on Merchant's Quay in Waterford is home to the tourist office, a theatre, exhibition space, a lively restaurant and, particularly, the wonderful Waterford Museum of Treasures. Over 100,000 people have visited here, since the Museum first opened in 1999, to learn about Waterford city's thousand years of history. Since then, Treasures has won several awards and last year was nominated by Rough Guide to Ireland as the 12th of the Top 50 Delights of Ireland - no mean recommendation. All ages will enjoy learning about those who contributed to the making of Waterford. There are exciting visual displays with specially designed audio guides for both children and adults. Here you will find Viking jewellery and gaming boards; the only complete medieval bow in these islands and arrow-heads from the Anglo-Norman siege of 1170, the four-metre long Great Charter Roll of 1372 which shows the earliest picture of an Irish city. Treasures also has the finest complete set of Royal Charters granted to the city over 600 years from 1215-1815. As you might expect, a wonderful collection of 18th and 19th century Waterford Glass is also on show here, while other displays recall the connections between Napoleon BONAPARTE and the local WYSE family; one of the Irish heroes of the American Civil War, Thomas Francis MEAGHER, and the important links between Newfoundland and Waterford fishermen. Directions: in the city centre on Merchant's Quay, signposted. More info: www.waterfordtreasures.com

A list member just caught that we had the name wrong on one of our headings. It is St. Mary and St. Anne Shandon NOT Bandon. I have corrected the Name in the index. Best wishes, Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/index.htm

These are just some of the larger additions. Sorry this is a long email. Please delete most if you want to reply. ~Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ GENERAL IRELAND --Miscellaneous Licences to Roman Catholics, to Carry Arms - 1705 CORK --Census Substitutes List of Voters who are Marksmen & Heads, Freeholders, Freemen 1837/8 A-Z Sale of Spirits in Premises under the Annual Value of 10£, 1832 - A-Z *APPENDIX 6 - LIST of Non-resident Freemen, County of the City of Cork, with those who Voted at the Election of 1837 marked off. [A-G] APPENDIX 8 List of Registered Voters w/ a Statement of Value [5£ to 10£] APPENDIX 9 - a LIST OF 10£ Householders in the City of Cork, as sustained and accounted for and submitted by Mr. Daniel Meagher [Parts 1 & 2] APPENDIX 10 - A LIST OF Poor Places in the City of Cork exempted from City rate by the Grand Jury at July Assizes 1837 APPENDIX 10 - A LIST OF Poor Places in the City of Cork exempted from City rate by the Grand Jury at July Assizes 1837 APPENDIX 11 - Several LISTS Of Poor and WASTE Concerns in several Parishes in the City of Cork 1837 [St. Anne Bandon and St. Mary Bandon] APPENDIX 11 - Several LISTS Of Poor and WASTE Concerns in several Parishes in City of Cork 1837 [St. Peter's and St. Nicholas] APPENDIX 11 - Several LISTS Of Poor and WASTE Concerns in Four Parishes in City of Cork 1837 [and Allowed by the Grand Jury] --Miscellaneous Persons Transported for Crime 1773-1806 Persons Executed for Crime 1767-1806 --Church *The Register of the Parish Church of the The Holy Trinity (Christ Church) Cork, 1643-1648 - Pt1 DERRY/LONDONDERRY --Cemetery Derry Cathedral Memorials v 6 [p582-p583] DUBLIN --Cemetery Deansgrance, Co. Dublin South West Section Part 1 -additions --Military Rebels (Irish Rebellion) who surrendered in city of Dublin from 29th June to 9th Sept. 1798 A-Z FERMANAGH --Photos of Ancestors page started KILKENNY --Cemetery Blackrath and Castle Inchyloghan Churchyards [PAGES 354-356] (from Memorials of the Dead in Ireland) LONGFORD --Photos of Ancestors page started MAYO Church --RC Marriages - Parish of Balla - 1866 TIPPERARY --Miscellaneous Petty Jurors, Barony of Iffa and Offa West- 1846 Petty Jurors, Barony of Middlethird - 1846 Convicts Released from the County Gaol of Tipperary 1836 Recanters from the Popish Religion 1713-1794 - Waterford & Tipperary names WATERFORD --Miscellaneous Recanters from the Popish Religion 1713-1794 WEXFORD --Church Burials in the Parish of St. Mary's, New Ross. CoI., 1880-1903 WICKLOW --Cemetery St. Patrick's Church, Enniskerry - Part 3 * Still being worked on.

For those who want to see if their ancestor is buried in Des Moines County, Iowa, GOTO: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iadesmoi/Toomstone/births_in_ireland.htm Do not pass GO and do not collect $200.00 <GRIN> donkelly ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick McCann <irishloft@verizon.net> To: ireland@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [IRELAND] IGP Hi Don & All, I am unable to trace my 3x Gr-Grandfather Patrick Hoy who is said to have left PA for Iowa in the late 1800's -- he and his wife & children arrived in NY from Ireland in approx. 1834 - 1836 -- is there any chance that he may be on your list of people born in Ireland and buried in Iowa ?? Is this list online ? Look forward to your reply. Thanks, Patrick M. McCann in PA On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:50 PM, donkelly wrote: > Good morning all. I have a list of people born in Ireland whom are > buried in Des Moines County, Iowa. > > Born in Ireland was taken from their tombstones, and like so many > such transcriptions, the county in Ireland is not listed. > > Is there a section in the IGP archives for records reading, "born > in Ireland"? > > Have a great day genealogical all. > > PS: In case anyone is interested, I also have a similar file for, > "born in Sweden". If any are interested I'll email that one offlist. > > donkelly > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Christina Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> > To: ireland@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:23:00 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: [IRELAND] IGP > > Michael, > Yes they would be fine IF they name the county in Ireland. That is > what we are > looking for. > Thanks, > Christina > > | I am originally from Spaniards Bay Newfoundland and I have couple > | of photographs of of headstones which speak of the persons as > | originating from Ireland. Their deaths occured in the mid-1800s! > | Would you be interested in these photos? spaniards bay is near St. > | John's the capital city. Approximately 90% of Newfoundlanders can > | trace their ancestry to Ireland! My name is Michael Ryan. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Maureen, Nice website -- still unable to connect any of those Hoy's to my Patrick Hoy -- the Hoy's that I have contacted so far in Iowa don't seem to have ties to Luzerne County, PA which is where Patrick lived before going to somewhere in Iowa approx. 1869 ?? His daughter Ellen married my Gr-Gr-Grandfather John McCann in Luzerne Co., PA in 1852 -- they are a tough bunch to trace ! Thanks, Patrick On Jan 31, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Mautrav@aol.com wrote: > Patrick, > > Have you looked for info on the Irish in Iowa website. There are > a lot of > links - including Iowa cemeteries. > > _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iarecrds/_ > (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iarecrds/) > > Maureen N > > > In a message dated 1/31/2009 11:59:17 A.M. Central Standard Time, > irishloft@verizon.net writes: > > I am unable to trace my 3x Gr-Grandfather Patrick Hoy who is said > to have left PA for Iowa in the late 1800's -- he and his wife & > children arrived in NY from Ireland in approx. 1834 - 1836 -- is > there any chance that he may be on your list of people born in > Ireland and buried in Iowa ?? Is this list online ? Look forward > to your reply. > > > **************From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in > between, stay > up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com? > ncid=emlcntaolcom00000023) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks -- he remains tough to track down ! On Jan 31, 2009, at 1:04 PM, donkelly wrote: > For those who want to see if their ancestor is buried in Des Moines > County, Iowa, GOTO: > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iadesmoi/Toomstone/ > births_in_ireland.htm > > Do not pass GO and do not collect $200.00 <GRIN> > > donkelly > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patrick McCann <irishloft@verizon.net> > To: ireland@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:58:45 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: [IRELAND] IGP > > Hi Don & All, > I am unable to trace my 3x Gr-Grandfather Patrick Hoy who is said > to have left PA for Iowa in the late 1800's -- he and his wife & > children arrived in NY from Ireland in approx. 1834 - 1836 -- is > there any chance that he may be on your list of people born in > Ireland and buried in Iowa ?? Is this list online ? Look forward > to your reply. > Thanks, > Patrick M. McCann in PA > > On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:50 PM, donkelly wrote: > >> Good morning all. I have a list of people born in Ireland whom are >> buried in Des Moines County, Iowa. >> >> Born in Ireland was taken from their tombstones, and like so many >> such transcriptions, the county in Ireland is not listed. >> >> Is there a section in the IGP archives for records reading, "born >> in Ireland"? >> >> Have a great day genealogical all. >> >> PS: In case anyone is interested, I also have a similar file for, >> "born in Sweden". If any are interested I'll email that one offlist. >> >> donkelly >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Christina Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> >> To: ireland@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:23:00 +0000 (UTC) >> Subject: [IRELAND] IGP >> >> Michael, >> Yes they would be fine IF they name the county in Ireland. That is >> what we are >> looking for. >> Thanks, >> Christina >> >> | I am originally from Spaniards Bay Newfoundland and I have couple >> | of photographs of of headstones which speak of the persons as >> | originating from Ireland. Their deaths occured in the mid-1800s! >> | Would you be interested in these photos? spaniards bay is near St. >> | John's the capital city. Approximately 90% of Newfoundlanders can >> | trace their ancestry to Ireland! My name is Michael Ryan. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks -- I'll take a look. On Jan 31, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Mike Saunders wrote: > There is a Patrick Hoy buried in Waterloo, Black Hawk Co., IA. You > can find > burial information at the Iowa Graves Registration Survey done > during the > Works Projects Administration at this site: > > http://iowawpagraves.org/index.php > > You can find a picture of this Patrick's tombstone as well as other > Hoys on > the Iowa Gravestone Photo Project at this site by searching in > Black Hawk > County: > > http://iowagravestones.org/search.php? > search=custom&new_cid=7&cfield=last&ctype=1&ctxt > = > > Let me know if this helps. > > Mike > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Patrick McCann > <irishloft@verizon.net>wrote: > >> Hi Don & All, >> I am unable to trace my 3x Gr-Grandfather Patrick Hoy who is said >> to have left PA for Iowa in the late 1800's -- he and his wife & >> children arrived in NY from Ireland in approx. 1834 - 1836 -- is >> there any chance that he may be on your list of people born in >> Ireland and buried in Iowa ?? Is this list online ? Look forward >> to your reply. >> Thanks, >> Patrick M. McCann in PA >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Patrick, Have you looked for info on the Irish in Iowa website. There are a lot of links - including Iowa cemeteries. _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iarecrds/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~iarecrds/) Maureen N In a message dated 1/31/2009 11:59:17 A.M. Central Standard Time, irishloft@verizon.net writes: I am unable to trace my 3x Gr-Grandfather Patrick Hoy who is said to have left PA for Iowa in the late 1800's -- he and his wife & children arrived in NY from Ireland in approx. 1834 - 1836 -- is there any chance that he may be on your list of people born in Ireland and buried in Iowa ?? Is this list online ? Look forward to your reply. **************From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000023)

Twas gold they mined in Wicklow ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:52 PM Subject: [IRELAND] ANDREW NOLAN It appears he like many was only born in Ireland BUT when he lists himself as an Iron Ore miner he if he left Co Wicklow area was possibly simply a miner, of whatever product in the area, and became a Iron Ore miner in Cumberland I do see he resided at 31 trumpet Street Cumberland and assume that you already knew this and of course in 1881 he was married to your lass Margaret. But following this through the census a point of interest for those of you seeking mining names, it appears that a lot of them married Co Down women, and that to me is of interest also, did they come via Co Down and find a wife, or were they nipping over the border with love in their hearts? Reading on the subject is a little hard to reccomend Jo when related to Co Wicklow but should you be able to track down this book, named Wicklow History & Society ISBN no0 906602 30 0 (published in Ireland ) there is a very good read on mining within its pages. The rest of the papers I have on mining i have gleaned from old newscopy etc that is in my personal files . If you cannot find this book contact me off list Jo. All the best Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Dell Carlson" <jodellcarlson@hotmail.com> To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Post Famine Emigration from Ireland to Glasgow,Scotland -- Book Review (2003) This is what I think I know. Andrew Nolan was born Nov. 1856 Ireland. Margaret Moore born July 1861 Ireland. It looks like they married in Cumbria, Cumberland, England 1880 and that he worked in an ore mine. First son was born in Cumbria, Cumberland, England 1880, John Joseph Nolan Aug. 19, 1881. Andrew did not have enough money to bring everyone to America, so he came himself and sent money to them to come. Second son was born on boat coming to America, Patrick J. Nolan 1883. The family was upset, as U.S. immigration says he and older son are English, not Irish. They settled in the Centralia, PA area. Andrew died 1907 not naturalized. FAmily moved to Philadelphia. I have them from 1900 on....with some missing pieces. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1912 - Release Date: 23/01/2009 6:54 PM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Don & All, I am unable to trace my 3x Gr-Grandfather Patrick Hoy who is said to have left PA for Iowa in the late 1800's -- he and his wife & children arrived in NY from Ireland in approx. 1834 - 1836 -- is there any chance that he may be on your list of people born in Ireland and buried in Iowa ?? Is this list online ? Look forward to your reply. Thanks, Patrick M. McCann in PA On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:50 PM, donkelly wrote: > Good morning all. I have a list of people born in Ireland whom are > buried in Des Moines County, Iowa. > > Born in Ireland was taken from their tombstones, and like so many > such transcriptions, the county in Ireland is not listed. > > Is there a section in the IGP archives for records reading, "born > in Ireland"? > > Have a great day genealogical all. > > PS: In case anyone is interested, I also have a similar file for, > "born in Sweden". If any are interested I'll email that one offlist. > > donkelly > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Christina Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> > To: ireland@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:23:00 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: [IRELAND] IGP > > Michael, > Yes they would be fine IF they name the county in Ireland. That is > what we are > looking for. > Thanks, > Christina > > | I am originally from Spaniards Bay Newfoundland and I have couple > | of photographs of of headstones which speak of the persons as > | originating from Ireland. Their deaths occured in the mid-1800s! > | Would you be interested in these photos? spaniards bay is near St. > | John's the capital city. Approximately 90% of Newfoundlanders can > | trace their ancestry to Ireland! My name is Michael Ryan. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

There is a Patrick Hoy buried in Waterloo, Black Hawk Co., IA. You can find burial information at the Iowa Graves Registration Survey done during the Works Projects Administration at this site: http://iowawpagraves.org/index.php You can find a picture of this Patrick's tombstone as well as other Hoys on the Iowa Gravestone Photo Project at this site by searching in Black Hawk County: http://iowagravestones.org/search.php?search=custom&new_cid=7&cfield=last&ctype=1&ctxt = Let me know if this helps. Mike On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Patrick McCann <irishloft@verizon.net>wrote: > Hi Don & All, > I am unable to trace my 3x Gr-Grandfather Patrick Hoy who is said > to have left PA for Iowa in the late 1800's -- he and his wife & > children arrived in NY from Ireland in approx. 1834 - 1836 -- is > there any chance that he may be on your list of people born in > Ireland and buried in Iowa ?? Is this list online ? Look forward > to your reply. > Thanks, > Patrick M. McCann in PA >

Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Newspaper Abstracts http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/Ireland/index.htm Irish in Iowa http://www.celticcousins.net/irishiniowa/index.htm Hi Patrick - Any idea where your HOY ancestors lived in Ireland? (I see from the surname search engine at http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/ that HOYE is a varation.) During the Primary Valuation of Ireland (1848-64), there were 15 HOY households in Co. Longford, 12 in Belfast city, 7 in Co. Louth, 6 in Co. Meath, 5 each in Cos. Offaly (King's Co.) and Sligo, 4 each in Cos. Dublin, Monaghan and Antrim, down from there. Per Matheson's 1890 birth data, babies born that year were overwhelmingly in the province of Ulster. Anything ring a bell? J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick McCann" <irishloft@verizon.net> To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] IGP > Hi Don & All, > I am unable to trace my 3x Gr-Grandfather Patrick Hoy who is said > to have left PA for Iowa in the late 1800's -- he and his wife & > children arrived in NY from Ireland in approx. 1834 - 1836

SNIPPET: Per Peter Collins, St. Mary's University College, Belfast, a handful of years ago: "Gold mining in Ireland is much less prevalent than the working of alluvial deposits, particularly Avoca, Co. Wicklow. Indeed, the 12th-century Book of Leinster describes the Leinster men as 'Lagenians of the Gold." The Goldmines river area of Avoca was the scene of the 'gold rush' of September 1796, which was abandoned because of the insurrection of 1798. Subsequently unsuccessful attempts were made to locate a 'mother lode' by mining in the area. Gold has also been found in the Sperrins in Co. Tyrone, although recent prospecting to the area has so far been without success."

Jean, I am keeping copies of all the lovely Irish poems and songs you have sent to the list. Regarding "The Wishing Well", I think I heard that sung by a girl with a haunting voice when we travelled to Brisbane many years ago to see Lord of the Dance. I have never forgotten how wonderful that concert was and the dancing and singing were superb. Thanks for all the poems and songs...keep them coming. I intend putting them together in my family History of my Irish Ancestors Family Tree, just for my family, to see the beautiful descriptive verse used in these words from Ireland. Again thankyou, Kind regards, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <jpmcnamara@sbcglobal.net> To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 4:32 PM Subject: [IRELAND] The Wishing Well > Jean, > > Thanks for posting Ideal. Interesting how these songs get written. > > Best regards, > Jim McNamara > ------------------------------- > The Wishing Well > > Words & Music by Connie Dover > > When first I saw you, > I saw beauty, > And I blinded my eyes > For feat that I should weep. > > When first I heard you, > I heard sweetness, > And I turned away, > For fear of my weakness. > > I blinded my eyes, > My face I turned away, > I hardened my heart, > For fear of my ruin. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning all. I have a list of people born in Ireland whom are buried in Des Moines County, Iowa. Born in Ireland was taken from their tombstones, and like so many such transcriptions, the county in Ireland is not listed. Is there a section in the IGP archives for records reading, "born in Ireland"? Have a great day genealogical all. PS: In case anyone is interested, I also have a similar file for, "born in Sweden". If any are interested I'll email that one offlist. donkelly ----- Original Message ----- From: Christina Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> To: ireland@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [IRELAND] IGP Michael, Yes they would be fine IF they name the county in Ireland. That is what we are looking for. Thanks, Christina | I am originally from Spaniards Bay Newfoundland and I have couple | of photographs of of headstones which speak of the persons as | originating from Ireland. Their deaths occured in the mid-1800s! | Would you be interested in these photos? spaniards bay is near St. | John's the capital city. Approximately 90% of Newfoundlanders can | trace their ancestry to Ireland! My name is Michael Ryan. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mary (in Australia?) - Thanks to you for your comments and to Jim McNamara for his additional input. Yes, poetry beautifully reveals people's hearts, thoughts, their experiences. Poetry, art, music make out lives worthwhile - and learning about our ancestors and the places and times they lived in, fascinating! I saw "Riverdance" with my sister in Dublin at the Gaiety Theatre in the summer of 2006 on our visit to Ireland -- it was fantastic! Our whole visit (one month!) was marvelous! Not only is the country full of amazing sites, but we found the Irish to be exceptionally warm and welcoming. Some background - With roots in counties Carlow and Sligo, Chicago-born Michael FLATLEY, born in 1958, transformed traditional Irish dance into a modern, worldwide phenomenon as the extraordinary male lead in "Riverdance" and "Lord of the Dance." Described in "National Geographic" as a "national treasure," Flatley at 17 became the first American to win the All-World championship in Irish dancing. In the early 1980s Flatley toured with the traditional Irish band "The Chieftains." He also performed at the 1997 Academy Awards, shortly after his sold-out Radio City performances. Flatley holds the "Guinness Book" record for the most number of taps per second. Flatley's partner in "Riverdance," Jean BUTLER, was born on Long Island. Butler and Flatley were part of the original performance that gave rise to "Riverdance," an intermission diversion, at the Eurovision Song Contest.. Butler eventually left "Riverdance" to pursue other interests and in late 2000 debuted in another Irish dance production, "Dancing on Dangerous Ground," in London. --Excerpts, "1001 Things Everyone Should Know About Irish American History," Edward T. O'Donnell (2002) My note: Flatley can be seen presently as host of the television show "Superstars of Dance." Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Mizzi" <mmizzi@dodo.com.au> To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] The Wishing Well > Jean, I am keeping copies of all the lovely Irish poems and songs you have > sent to the list. > > Regarding "The Wishing Well", I think I heard that sung by a girl with a > haunting voice when we travelled to Brisbane many years ago to see Lord of > the Dance. I have never forgotten how wonderful that concert was and the > dancing and singing were superb. > > Thanks for all the poems and songs...keep them coming. I intend putting > them > together in my family History of my Irish Ancestors Family Tree, just for > my > family, to see the beautiful descriptive verse used in these words from > Ireland. > Again thankyou, > > Kind regards, > > Mary

SNIPPET: The secret to genealogy is to concentrate on research in the KNOWN places the individuals lived and work backwards in time. This important step cannot be skipped, as you just can't assume that someone with the same name in records is one of "yours." Serendipity: My research includes Ireland and England. I found people who actually knew my families or recognized that their ancestors had been neighbors, when I began including known addresses in my posts. One English gentleman recognized an address and contacted me. It seems he had an early 1930's photo of my paternal English grandmother with his family that was taken when he was just a young boy. My grandmother had returned to England from America to visit some relatives, and both families lived in the same neighborhood. Turns out that I had in my possession an old photo of his father and my paternal uncle in their WW-I uniforms! On another occasion, I left a detailed e-mail inquiry at a boy's school in England where I thought some relations may have attended. To my amazement, I received a trans-Atlantic call from a retired English teacher-historian-author-photographer with a wonderful accent who knew my relatives very well! He sent me a copy of his published town history; enclosed inside was an old wedding photo of my father's eldest brother that included several other family members. It meant so much to me! In reference to Ireland - a good clue can be an unusual first or middle name, which might be mother's maiden ("nee") surname found among the well-educated individuals in older records. Unusual given names can be good clues as names were passed down from generation to generation. Catholic records reveal only about a hundred given names that are used over and over again. Old church records have been microfilmed and available at LDS (Mormon) FHCs and the "sponsors" and "witnesses" appear to be family members as they have the same surnames. Names are often in Latin, but identifiable. Some of these original church record books have been filmed and can be viewed at local LDS (Mormon) Family History Centers. I was able to request a copy of a Carrick-on-Shannon district microfilm that contained a legible St. Patrick's Chapel, Drumshanbo, Co. Leitrim church book. To request the film and view it only cost me less than three dollars, and the helpful church volunteers were able to make photocopies of the microfilmed pages in the book I was interested in to take back home. Not referring to names found in old records here, but in rural communities, some Catholic Irish were known by their middle name or identified by a nickname or handle that signified who their father was or even what occupation the family was known for. Did they emigrate to America? Contact the county historical society in the USA county in which your family resided for some time, ask for their help in finding documents on your particular families such as wills. I have had great success with this. Circa 1900 marriage applications provide, in some instances, information on the PARENTS of the bride and groom. This seems to depend on what county you are researching in. Land records often gave last place lived. Other documents might include court records of property disputes, naturalization, cemetery records, b/m/d abstracts, newspaper clippings, census extracts, etc. Almost every document they come up with will provide you with new information. County historical societies have ready access to old maps with settlers' names, books and publications of their own and others. Periodicals published by USA county historical societies have every-name indices in their winter issues which they can quickly refer to. (Check and see if your local genealogy library has some of these issues.) An initial investment in this way may very well give you a solid underpinning for your own research. Census and cemetery records are valuable for discovering related family members. Check and see who "the neighbors" are on USA census records. Individuals often married neighbors and/or moved from state to state with other relatives. Widows, spinsters, elderly and/or infirmed relatives, related children, often ended up living in their grown children's homes or right next door. Family members were often buried in the same cemetery. Some old USA rural route directories have been scanned to the Internet including http://www.distantcousin.com/ Have you tried sending away for microfilmed old USA newspapers to look for death notices? If a definite date is known, request the newspapers for the two days following the death via your reference librarian and the free interlibrary loan program. The librarian has references to tell her which microfilmed newspapers to request for a particular location and time period. Death notices may further provide details on a location in Ireland and give names and locations of related living relatives you may not be aware of. Check carefully, as death notices and obituaries may appear on separate pages! It is possible that a death notice appeared in a newspaper where they formerly lived, as well. Your reference librarian can also help you obtain old USA county history books in addition to those found on the shelves. To my amazement, I found two page on my Indiana kin in an old county history book. They were early settlers, belonged to church and community groups (agriculture, political, educational, fraternal, women's organizations, and some served in the American Civil War as 100-day volunteers. Another resource: While I only had a general idea of where and when a death had occured, in some cases, I also found many of my American relations listed on local genealogy library microfilmed death indices. The films are organized by state and approximate 10-year increments, names are alphabetical and soundexed. (Check and see what years they cover, but I recall finding several of my deceased aunts and uncles on these microfilms.) Data given includes name of deceased, place of death (may have to rewind film to beginning for location code), age at death, name of a living spouse, and the number of the death certificate. With the latter, I was able to contact state and county archival libraries and request photocopies of old death certificates. I think that I only paid a quarter a copy. Contact living relatives to find out what they know about the family history. Ask for their help. Perhaps there are clues in the old photo albums. There may be an important notation on the back of an old picture - or, in the case of a formal photograph, the studio's name and location. Leave a detailed query on a Rootsweb Message Board, particularly, a surname board. Go back and correct, if necessary, a former note, adding any new information. U. S. Federal Census data in book form can be found in genealogy libraries on the Reference shelves, divided by state and census year. Data extends back to the time of the Revolutionary War and forward (depending on a particular state) to as late as 1900. Have you checked the more recent U. S. Federal Censuses? Even if parents are deceased, their children may have given the enumerator a particular county or province in Ireland when asked for place of birth of each parent. It does appear in some instances (1920?), that census enumerators recorded more specifics such as a particular county, "No. Ireland" or "Free State" (Republic) for place of birth. While it may not be correct, it could actually help to confirm family lore passed down through generations. Many USA Federal Censuses give date of immigration and/or years in country, whether naturalized ("na"), date of naturalization, whether still an "alien," or "pa," indicating that first papers towards citizenship were completed. The latest American census available for research is 1930. Branches of the National Archives are a good resource. One might even consider a subscription to the Ancestry.com website. They seem to now offer subscriptions of varying length and expense. Last, but not least, you might want to search your surname and area of interest at E-Bay, from time to time, as many military medals, old letters, postcards and stamps come up for sale. You never know what you might find. As an example, a WW-I silver British War Medal (Liverpool Regiment) for a Cpl. W. LILLIOTT with military card (#20399) is presently advertised today as a "quick buy," and I would think that a family member researcher would be thrilled to obtain same. J. Jean

Michael Heffernan and Catherine Ryan ( may not be yours ) 1- John Heffernan born 3 April 1867 Golden Co Tipperary 2- Catherine Heffernan born 6 may 1872 same place If they are yours contact me and I will forward a complete extraction for you Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Mahoney" <cmahoney@orcon.net.nz> To: <cotipperary-L@rootsweb.com>; <ireland-L@rootsweb.com>; <ireland-roots-L@rootsweb.com>; <irl-cork-L@rootsweb.com>; <irl-tipperary-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 7:21 AM Subject: [IRELAND] Dunn, Hefferman, Mahoney, Ryan > Am researching the above names which originated from either Tipperary or > Cork. > > The people I am looking for are Michael MAHONEY, son of William MAHONEY > and > Catherine DUNN was born about 1854 and married Bridget HEFFERMAN about > 1871. > > Bridget was boun about 1851 and was the daughter of Michael HEFFERMAN and > Catherine RYAN. > > They had a number of children before leaving for Queensland in the 1880s. > > _____________________________________ > Visit my website on http://www.chrismahoney.co.nz > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.7/1894 - Release Date: 14/01/2009 7:27 PM

It appears he like many was only born in Ireland BUT when he lists himself as an Iron Ore miner he if he left Co Wicklow area was possibly simply a miner, of whatever product in the area, and became a Iron Ore miner in Cumberland I do see he resided at 31 trumpet Street Cumberland and assume that you already knew this and of course in 1881 he was married to your lass Margaret. But following this through the census a point of interest for those of you seeking mining names, it appears that a lot of them married Co Down women, and that to me is of interest also, did they come via Co Down and find a wife, or were they nipping over the border with love in their hearts? Reading on the subject is a little hard to reccomend Jo when related to Co Wicklow but should you be able to track down this book, named Wicklow History & Society ISBN no0 906602 30 0 (published in Ireland ) there is a very good read on mining within its pages. The rest of the papers I have on mining i have gleaned from old newscopy etc that is in my personal files . If you cannot find this book contact me off list Jo. All the best Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Dell Carlson" <jodellcarlson@hotmail.com> To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Post Famine Emigration from Ireland to Glasgow,Scotland -- Book Review (2003) This is what I think I know. Andrew Nolan was born Nov. 1856 Ireland. Margaret Moore born July 1861 Ireland. It looks like they married in Cumbria, Cumberland, England 1880 and that he worked in an ore mine. First son was born in Cumbria, Cumberland, England 1880, John Joseph Nolan Aug. 19, 1881. Andrew did not have enough money to bring everyone to America, so he came himself and sent money to them to come. Second son was born on boat coming to America, Patrick J. Nolan 1883. The family was upset, as U.S. immigration says he and older son are English, not Irish. They settled in the Centralia, PA area. Andrew died 1907 not naturalized. FAmily moved to Philadelphia. I have them from 1900 on....with some missing pieces. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1912 - Release Date: 23/01/2009 6:54 PM