SNIPPET: The Rose and Red Marbles from Co. Cork and Co. Kerry can be seen in public buildings, churches and cathedrals throughout Ireland. The quarries which are now closed were worked extensively in the last two centuries. At one time the marble was known as "Rouge Royale." This is a very hard marble and the bright red variety which is similar to red jasper is ideal for jewellery stones. Outcrops of this marble can be seen along the lakeshore at Muckross in the National Park near Killarney. Galway Black Marble (250 million years old). The Galway Black Marble Quarries which are now closed were situated at Merlin Park and Angliham near Galway City. The Jet Black marble from these quarries was exported to England and Spain. The steps up to St. Paul's Cathedral in London are made from Galway marble. Galway used to be a famous trading port with Spain. Records show that in the year 1615, upwards of 1,200 tonnes of Spanish wine was landed in Galway. The sailing ships returning to Spain carried Galway Black Marble on the return journey as ballast and the marble with its distinctive white fossils can be seen today in many public buildings on the west coast of Spain.

THE BIRTHPLACE I The deal table where he wrote, so small and plain, the single bed a dream of discipline. And a flagged kitchen downstairs, its mote-slants of thick light; the unperturbed, reliable ghost life he carried, with no need to invent. And high trees round the house, breathed upon day and night by winds as slow as a cart coming late from market, or the stir a fiddle could make in his reluctant heart. -- Seamus Heaney

SNIPPET: "Famine", Rowan GILLESPIE's moving sculpture in Dublin's Custom House Quay commemorates those poor souls forced to emigrate during the famine of the 19th century. It was bought and donated to the people of Ireland in 1997 by Norma SMURFIT, one of Ireland's more altruistic millionaires. The six larger-than-life figures evoke a haunted feel in this part of the quays, which is all the more significant as many of the emigrants departed from this quay to Liverpool and the New World. Of all my 2006 Ireland vacation pictures, the ones most frequently commented on are the close-ups of the wretched figures. On foot, we had almost given up on finding the sculpture when some people on the street told us to walk on a little further, just down from the Custom House. The sculpture is made to represent the poor who left Ireland during the 1845 famine to find hope elsewhere. The figures are tall and elongated - the stretch making them thinner. There is a scrawny dog amidst them. Their gaunt faces are burned in my memory. These are a "must-see" for visitors. Rowan GILLESPIE was born in Dublin in 1953, but his family soon moved to Cyprus where he lived until the age of ten. In 1969 he enrolled at York School of Art and later continued his studies at Kingston College of Art and Kunst og Handverke Skole in Oslo. He lived and exhibited widely in Norway before returning to Ireland in 1977. From 1978 to 1986, he had many exhibitions in Ireland at the Lad Lane & Solomon Galleries and with the Jonathon Poole Gallery, London. His work also travelled to exhibitions in York, Belfast, New York, Cannes, Los Angeles and Stockholm. From 1982 he regularly exhibited in group exhibitions, Art Fairs and Theme exhibitions in Ireland, France, Holland, U.S.A and England, including 'Recontre avec des Sculpteurs Europeens', Pan Amsterdam, Royal Hibernian Academy, Art Expo, New York, Art Toronto, Puck, New York, B.C.A.F., I.C.A.F., London. In 1989 he decided to concentrate on site specific work, resulting in a number of major public sculptures sited throughout Ireland and abroad including The Blackrock Dolmen, The Kiss, The Age of Freedom (all in Dublin), The Cashel Dancers (Cashel), W.B.Yeats (Sligo), The Singer (Limerick City) and The Cycle of Life and The Minstrels in Colorado State, USA. In 1994, a major solo sculpture exhibition was hosted at the Solomon Gallery, Dublin and toured to the Galerie Husstege, Holland. GILLESPIE's most well-known piece to date is "Famine," a commemorative group of figures sited on Custom House Quay in Dublin. The sculptor's work is represented in the collections of the Irish Museum of Modern Art, the National Self-Portrait Collection, Limerick, AIB Bank, I.B.M., Office of An Taoiseach, R.T.E. Authority Commission, Aer Lingus, Chicago Bank, Tyrone Guthrie Centre, Ulster Bank, National Maternity Hospital and Irish Intercontinental Bank.

In message <02e401c9a32a$e59a2c10$441ecac6@jean> "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> wrote: Thankyou Jean for such an interesting read! Bev in Western Australia > SNIPPET: Per Cork's "Irish Roots" magazine, many researchers tend to believe > that the information in civil registers is correct and worry only about the > accuracy of transcriptions made by various indexing groups. This confidence, > however, is not well placed. > In relation to births and deaths, the local registrar was usually given the > details by a member of the family in which the event took place. He wrote > this information in a register, which was kept locally, and a handwritten > copy was sent to the Office of the Registrar General in Dublin. A birth or > death certificate ordered from this office always involves another > transcription -- from the copy register to the certificates. > Though there is room for error in the two transcription stages, most of the > errors originate with the informant, that is the person who registered the > birth or death in the first instance. A very common error to be found in > death certificates relates to the age of the deceased. When a son or > daughter went to register the death of a parent, the age of the parent was > often unknown to them -- many people are still quite coy about their age. > The registrar, a busy dispensary doctor, would simply ask for an estimate > and put that down as the age. Some ages at death can be highly inaccurate. > It is significant that many elderly people are given decimal death dates -- > ages ending with zero appears to be particularly suspect. > The Mormon religion allows for baptism after death. > Many Irish people were "baptised before birth" -- if we are to believe what > we read in baptismal and birth certificates. This strange Irish phenomenon > is explained by the fact that Irish Catholics baptised their children within > a few days of birth, but often neglected to register the birth with the > local registrar in a timely fashion. In order to AVOID the payment of a FINE > for non-registration within a 3-month period of the birth, some parents > simply gave a later date for the birth. > This little deception comes to light seventy years later when an application > is made for state pension, for example. The birth certificate shows the > applicant to be several months short of the required age. Sympathetic > officials, in these circumstances, are inclined to accept baptismal > certificates as more accurate evidence of age. This is tantamount to > official recognition of the inaccuracy of birth certificates. > For example, when searching in the Vital Records Index for the British Isles > CD-Rom issued by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, Salt Lake > City, 1998, for the children of a marriage between De Courcy EVANS and wife > Charlotte WILLIAMS (birthplaces Newcastle, Wicklow) one would discover that > based on the relatively poor quality of handwriting found in the ORIGINAL > Registrar's Records there were some transcription errors made: > 1. EVANS, De Courcy -- Male, born 10 Nov 1864, Newcastle, Wick, Ire: Father > De Courcy EVANS, mother Charlotte WILLIAMS. > 2. EVANS, Eliza Jane -- Female, born 25 Jan 1868, Newcastle, Wick, Ire: > Father De Conroy EVANS, mother Charlotte WILLIAMS. > 3. EVANS, John -- Male, born 28 Apr 1869, Newcastle, Wick, Ire: Father > Decourcy EVANS, mother Charlotte WILLIAMS. > 4. EVANS, Patty -- Female, born 13 Aug 1870, Newcastle, Wick, Ire: Father > Decamsy EVANS, mother Charlotte WILLIAMS. > Someone searching only for De Courcy EVANS might miss these, but a search > for the less-likely name to be misspelled and/or transcribed incorrectly, > that of the mother, Charlotte WILLIAMS, would bring up all four births. > When using various search engines, it is probably best to use the "Soundex" > feature (if available). While you will get more "hits," you just might find > what you are looking for that contains a minor discrepancy of spelling. > NOTE -- The 1999 Third Quarter issue of Cork's "Irish Roots" magazine > contains a portion of the original Registrar's Records for the birth record > of Eliza Jane EVANS and the birth record for Patty EVANS with the father's > names enlarged, and they do, indeed, appear to read "De Conroy" EVANS and > "Decamsy" EVANS. > It should be kept in mind that there was no particular emphasis on accuracy > in spelling or ages in old records, as there would be found today, so > spelling of surnames, etc., can vary widely, and according to record expert > John Grenham, with the upheaval in Ireland over the centuries, etc., "a > significant proportion of births, marriages and deaths were simply not > registered." > Also, keep in mind that the Registrar's District (where the event was > registered) was not necessarily the townland or village where the event, > itself, took place. An inquiry at your local LDS FHC may turn up additional, > more specific data. Keep in mind that some Registrar Districts even cover an > area of more than one Irish county and that some boundaries have changed > over the years. > Late Registrations -- Per Grenham, although the chances of finding a missing > registration IS slim, a thorough search of the indexes is necessary for > completeness. When the individuals concerned or their relatives later needed > a certificate for official purposes, it became necessary to register the > event after the fact. The index references of these late registrations are > included in the volume for the year in which the event took place. For > example, the index reference for someone born in 1880, but whose birth was > not registered until 1900, is to be found in the index for 1880. In the case > of births and deaths, these references are indexed separately from the main > body of the index, at the back of the volume. For marriages, however, late > registrations are written in by hand at the relevant point in the main body > of the index. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Bev McGuinness, Cinnamon Coloureds Farmstay, RMB 1017 DENMARK WA 6333 Tel: +61 8 9848 1781 Fax: +61 8 9848 1231 Web: http://www.denmarkwa.com.au/cc/

THE MINSTREL BOY The minstrel boy to the war is gone, In the ranks of death you'll find him, His father's sword he has girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him. "Land of song!" said the warrior bard, "Though all the world betrays thee, One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard, One faithful harp shall praise thee!" The minstrel fell! -- but the foeman's chain Could not bring his proud soul under; The harp he loved ne'er spoke again, For he tore its chords asunder; And said, "No chains shall sully thee, Thou soul of love and bravery! Thy songs were made for the pure and free, They shall never sound in slavery!" -- Thomas Moore (1779-1852)

Hello Dawn - welcome to Irish research. If you go to the Rootsweb Home Page and go to Mailing Lists you can search for a list. There are Antrim lists so you will be able to choose which one or join them all. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: [IRELAND] County Antrim >I am new to researching Irish ancestors. Can someone tell me if there is a > list for County Antrim? > thanks much > Dawn

SNIPPET: Per Cork's "Irish Roots" magazine, many researchers tend to believe that the information in civil registers is correct and worry only about the accuracy of transcriptions made by various indexing groups. This confidence, however, is not well placed. In relation to births and deaths, the local registrar was usually given the details by a member of the family in which the event took place. He wrote this information in a register, which was kept locally, and a handwritten copy was sent to the Office of the Registrar General in Dublin. A birth or death certificate ordered from this office always involves another transcription -- from the copy register to the certificates. Though there is room for error in the two transcription stages, most of the errors originate with the informant, that is the person who registered the birth or death in the first instance. A very common error to be found in death certificates relates to the age of the deceased. When a son or daughter went to register the death of a parent, the age of the parent was often unknown to them -- many people are still quite coy about their age. The registrar, a busy dispensary doctor, would simply ask for an estimate and put that down as the age. Some ages at death can be highly inaccurate. It is significant that many elderly people are given decimal death dates -- ages ending with zero appears to be particularly suspect. The Mormon religion allows for baptism after death. Many Irish people were "baptised before birth" -- if we are to believe what we read in baptismal and birth certificates. This strange Irish phenomenon is explained by the fact that Irish Catholics baptised their children within a few days of birth, but often neglected to register the birth with the local registrar in a timely fashion. In order to AVOID the payment of a FINE for non-registration within a 3-month period of the birth, some parents simply gave a later date for the birth. This little deception comes to light seventy years later when an application is made for state pension, for example. The birth certificate shows the applicant to be several months short of the required age. Sympathetic officials, in these circumstances, are inclined to accept baptismal certificates as more accurate evidence of age. This is tantamount to official recognition of the inaccuracy of birth certificates. For example, when searching in the Vital Records Index for the British Isles CD-Rom issued by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, Salt Lake City, 1998, for the children of a marriage between De Courcy EVANS and wife Charlotte WILLIAMS (birthplaces Newcastle, Wicklow) one would discover that based on the relatively poor quality of handwriting found in the ORIGINAL Registrar's Records there were some transcription errors made: 1. EVANS, De Courcy -- Male, born 10 Nov 1864, Newcastle, Wick, Ire: Father De Courcy EVANS, mother Charlotte WILLIAMS. 2. EVANS, Eliza Jane -- Female, born 25 Jan 1868, Newcastle, Wick, Ire: Father De Conroy EVANS, mother Charlotte WILLIAMS. 3. EVANS, John -- Male, born 28 Apr 1869, Newcastle, Wick, Ire: Father Decourcy EVANS, mother Charlotte WILLIAMS. 4. EVANS, Patty -- Female, born 13 Aug 1870, Newcastle, Wick, Ire: Father Decamsy EVANS, mother Charlotte WILLIAMS. Someone searching only for De Courcy EVANS might miss these, but a search for the less-likely name to be misspelled and/or transcribed incorrectly, that of the mother, Charlotte WILLIAMS, would bring up all four births. When using various search engines, it is probably best to use the "Soundex" feature (if available). While you will get more "hits," you just might find what you are looking for that contains a minor discrepancy of spelling. NOTE -- The 1999 Third Quarter issue of Cork's "Irish Roots" magazine contains a portion of the original Registrar's Records for the birth record of Eliza Jane EVANS and the birth record for Patty EVANS with the father's names enlarged, and they do, indeed, appear to read "De Conroy" EVANS and "Decamsy" EVANS. It should be kept in mind that there was no particular emphasis on accuracy in spelling or ages in old records, as there would be found today, so spelling of surnames, etc., can vary widely, and according to record expert John Grenham, with the upheaval in Ireland over the centuries, etc., "a significant proportion of births, marriages and deaths were simply not registered." Also, keep in mind that the Registrar's District (where the event was registered) was not necessarily the townland or village where the event, itself, took place. An inquiry at your local LDS FHC may turn up additional, more specific data. Keep in mind that some Registrar Districts even cover an area of more than one Irish county and that some boundaries have changed over the years. Late Registrations -- Per Grenham, although the chances of finding a missing registration IS slim, a thorough search of the indexes is necessary for completeness. When the individuals concerned or their relatives later needed a certificate for official purposes, it became necessary to register the event after the fact. The index references of these late registrations are included in the volume for the year in which the event took place. For example, the index reference for someone born in 1880, but whose birth was not registered until 1900, is to be found in the index for 1880. In the case of births and deaths, these references are indexed separately from the main body of the index, at the back of the volume. For marriages, however, late registrations are written in by hand at the relevant point in the main body of the index.

antrim-request@rootsweb.com is one useful list. to reach the admin, goto antrim-admin@rootsweb.com after subscribing, send messages to antrim@rootsweb.com donkelly ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia O'Shea <pkoshea@xtra.co.nz> To: ireland@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [IRELAND] County Antrim Hello Dawn - welcome to Irish research. If you go to the Rootsweb Home Page and go to Mailing Lists you can search for a list. There are Antrim lists so you will be able to choose which one or join them all. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: [IRELAND] County Antrim >I am new to researching Irish ancestors. Can someone tell me if there is a > list for County Antrim? > thanks much > Dawn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am new to researching Irish ancestors. Can someone tell me if there is a list for County Antrim? thanks much Dawn

LOAD Today we carted home the last brown sheaf and hookt the scythe agenst the dry barn wall: the yellow border's on the chestnut leaf, the beech leaf's yellow all. Tomorrow we must bring the apples in, they are as big as they shall ever be: already starlings eager to begin have tasted many a tree. And in the gardens, all the roses done, the light lies gently, faint and almost cold, on wither'd goldenrod and snapdragon and tarnisht marigold. -- John Hewitt (1907-1987)

SNIPPET: Born in Belfast, 1907, John HEWITT was educated at Methodist College and Queen's University Belfast. He worked for 27 years in Belfast Museum and Art Gallery. Passed over for post of director in 1953, apparently because of his left-wing, anti-sectarian politics, HEWITT moved to Coventry as director of the Herbert Art Gallery & Museum, 1957. He retired in 1972 and returned to Belfast (Co. Antrim) dying in 1987. "I may appear Planter's Gothic, " he wrote in 1953, "but there is a round tower somewhere inside, and needled through every sentence I utter." He identified with the radicalism of the Presbyterian United Irishmen and of the 18th and 19th century Rhyming Weavers of Antrim and Down, whose work he anthologised. HEWITT struggled to keep viable a submerged Ulster tradition of tolerance and faith in human progress. >From FREEHOLD (The Lonely Heart) Once in a seaside town with time to kill, the windless winter-daylight ebbing chill, the cafes shut till June, the shop blinds drawn, only one pub yet open where a man trundled his barrels off a dray with care, and two men talking, small across the square, I turned from broad street, down a red-brick row, past prams in parlours and infrequent show of thrusting bulbtips, till high steps and porch and rigid statue signalised a church. I climbed the granite past Saint Patrick's knees, saw cross in stone, befingered, ringed with grease, and water in a stroup with oily skin, swung door on stall of booklets and went in to the dim stained-glass cold interior between low pews along a marble floor to where the candles burned, still keeping pace with ugly-coloured Stations of the Cross. Two children tiptoed in and prayed awhile. A shabby woman in a faded shawl came hirpling past me then, and crumpled down, crossing herself and mumbling monotone. I stood and gazed across the altar rail at the tall windows, cold and winter pale; Christ and His Mother, Christ and Lazarus, Christ watching Martha bustle round the house, Christ crowned, with sceptre and a blessing hand. I counted seven candles on the stand; a box of matches of familiar brand lay on a tray. It somehow seemed my right to pay my penny and set up my light, not to this coloured Christ nor to His Mother, but single flame to sway with all the other small earnest flames against the crowding gloom which seemed that year descending on our time, suppressed the fancy, smiled a cynic thought, turned clicking heel on marble and went out. Not this my fathers' faith: Their walls are bare; their comfort's all within, if anywhere, I had gone there a vacant hour to pass, to see the sculpture and admire the glass, but left as I had come, a protestant, and all unconscious of my yawning want; too much intent on what to criticise to give my heart the room to realise that which endures the tides of time so long cannot be always absolutely wrong; not even with a friendly thought or human for the two children and the praying woman. The years since then have proved I should have stayed and mercy might have touched me till I prayed. For now I scorn no man's or child's belief in any symbol that may succour grief if we remember whence life first arose and how within us yet that river flows; and how the fabled shapes in dream's deep sea still evidence our continuity with being's seamless garment, web and thread. O windblown grass upon the mounded dead, O seed in crevice of the frost-split rock, the power that fixed your root shall take us back, though endlessly through aeons we are thrust as luminous or unreflecting dust. -- John Hewitt (1907-1987)

LETTER: July 6, 1865 - 31 Cheapside, Box 1193, Baltimore, Maryland, USA: "My dear Brother, you will doubtless think it strange that I have not written to you since my brief note after the fall of Richmond. The fact is I have been so unsettled since that time and not knowing where I should make a permanent location, hat I deferred writing. The business portion of the city having been burnt, the chance of getting a suitable place was small. Under these circumstances, I had serious thoughts of returning to Ireland and could I have heard from you at that time I believe I should have gone - much as I disliked going back no better than when I started; though throughout all I did manage to save enough to take me there. About the same time a friend in Baltimore wrote me that if I were to go there immediately I could get a situation. Baltimore is much larger than any place I have lived in and is a city of considerable commercial importance. Its trade was chiefly from the Southern States and onsequently since the war began it has been very much curtailed. With the dawn of peace - that great blessing - it is expected the old trade will be resumed and the merchants are looking hopefully forward. The State of Maryland was originally settled by Catholics and Baltimore is pre-eminently a Catholic city. There are at least twenty regular Churches and almost as many religious seminaries and institutions - the whole presided over by an Archbishop - Rt. Rev M. J. SPALDING - a man of great erudition. An advertisement for a bookkeeper appeared in one of the morning papers, and upon an examination of my letters of recommendation, (I was) engaged with the firm at a rate of $1,000 a year, to be increased next fall,should their business anticipations be realized It is a first class house, old and well established. I am now in it over two weeks and find it pleasant in every respect. Trade is slack at present, but a heavy business is expected in the autumn. I enclose a business card. I thought of writing you a brief sketch of the events of the past four years; but when events which succeed each other so rapidly as they have done here pass away, the interest they excite pass with them. The fall of Richmond - the surrender of General LEE and his army, and the subsequent surrender of all the armies of the Confederacy; the capture of Jeff DAVIS and other rebel leaders, the assassination of President LINCOLN in the hour of triumph, the capture and death of his assassin, are matters of history, which you have doubtless read in the newspapers long since. My own connection with the confederacy was more accidental than otherwise. In October 1861, I was offered a situation as clerk in the Adjutant and Inspector General's Office in the War Department. As SHERWOOD and YOUNG closed business early in April in order to join the army, and as the position was at that time considered a respectable one, I accepted it and retained it until Richmond was evacuated. I was very soon promoted to be chief clerk in the office and was treated with great consideration and kindness by the officers My duties were of a high order; I had to superintend the other clerks of the office and was charged with the primary examination of all papers coming to the office; their proper reference and action, either by endorsing or otherwise - the Adjutant-General or his assistant merely signing the answer after it was prepared. In fact, I was performing all the duties of an Assistant Adjutant-General who usually ranked as Colonel - without the rank or emoluments. Of course, the position screened me from conscription and consequently from the army and therefore I was compelled to remain, though I could have done much better out of the office, if permitted. I was also favoured in not being asked to join any military organisation; all the other clerks had to form themselves into a local defence corps, which was called up for duty whenever the enemy made a 'raid' near Richmond, and were often kept in the trenches for three to four weeks at a time. The approach of the enemy or rather the 'raid,' as it was generally termed, was announced by the ringing of the bells of the city - often at midnight. This was the signal for all capable of bearing arms - which meant all able to carry a musket, no matter what his age or condition - to turn out en-masse to meet the foe. Guards were then placed on every corner, and no person allowed to escape unless he could show some special exemption signed by half a dozen generals. It was ludicrous to see the heterogeneous crowd collected together in this way and still more so to think that soldiers could be made of such material. Of course this was independent of the inevitable conscription, which took all between the ages of 17 and 50, it was sifting the chaff after the corn had been taken away. Towards the last, my salary in the War Department was $500 a month, and I made $300 outside of the office, in keeping books - this you will say was doing well and so it was, in figures, but it took it all to live - to buy the necessaries of life - the luxuries were not thought of. A few specimens of the ruling prices at that time may not be uninteresting: a cloth coat $1,200 to $1,500, pantaloons $300 to $800, boots $300 to $800, flour $1,500 per barrel of 200 lbs, bacon $25, butter $20, sugar $25, tea $150 and coffee $50 per pound. Eighty dollars in Confederate currency was only equal to one dollar in gold. I know not to which side your sympathies leaned during the unhappy contest, for my own part I was opposed to secession from the commencement. I pity the South, her people are brave and generous and they have suffered severely. They not only lose their primary cause of the war - their slaves - but nearly everything possessed by them that has been swept away by the ravages of war. They are now accepting the arbitrament of battle and settling down to their usual avocations as gracefully as circumstances will admit - wiser, if not richer men. What real benefit will accrue to the slave from his freedom is yet to be tested. The generally accepted opinion is that, like the Indian, they will be gradually exterminated as they must give way to the labouring whiteman whenever they come in competition. This will give a new impetus to emigration, for already they are endeavoring to procure white labourers to the exclusion of the blacks - not caring to pay their own slaves, who are often insolent now that they are emancipated. I hope you will be able to read this letter; it is written under disadvantages arising from constant interruption. The weather, too, is intensely hot,and perspiration threatens to obliterate the words as they are written. My kind love to all, Your affectionate brother Michael." -- The original handwritten letter from 1865 was passed down to Peggy O'KELLY (age 85 in 1994), granddaughter of Stephen KELLY of Dundalk (Louth) to whom the letter was written. Full of history, this Baltimore letter was subsequently sent to Cork's "Irish Roots" magazine by Mrs. Paula KELLY, Secretary of Raheny Heritage Society, Dublin, and was edited and appeared in the 1994 #4 issue.

I followed your directions and District 161 came up. You may want to try again. > To: IRELAND@rootsweb.com > From: irishloft@verizon.net > Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:56:17 -0400 > Subject: [IRELAND] Ancestry.com - 1880 United States Federal Census Kane ? > > > > Having problems viewing this image? > > You are here: Search > Census > U.S. Census > 1880 United States > Federal Census > Pennsylvania > Luzerne > Ashley > District 161 > blank census form > > > In > > Out > > Options > of 68 > Image Number > > Prev > Next > > Order Copy > Print > Save > Share > Help > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme

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Hi Cara I am getting nearer to the birth of Thomas in Ireland now. I would be very grateful if you could give the details of the christening to me. Thank you so much Carole > 1. Thomas Larvin-1825 (Cara_Links) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:47:15 +1100 > From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> > Subject: [IRELAND] Thomas Larvin-1825 > To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <152D3175B99D4EDD9DA95C52DCFC6C9B@Madden> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I found a Thomas Lavin born to a Michael and Honora Hoban in Laughlin > Roscommon 23/1/1825 should he be of any use to you- actually its a > christening and its RC you have not said what religion your family were > Cara > > IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.24/1954 - Release Date: 02/09/09 > 17:40:00 > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRELAND list administrator, send an email to > IRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRELAND mailing list, send an email to IRELAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 50 > ************************************** _________________________________________________________________ 25GB of FREE Online Storage – Find out more http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665320/direct/01/

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Paul and Sylvia <hiluv-8@shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi maybe some one out there can help me i bought into limerick ireland > ,,40euro there is really nothing else i can find that might help me i am > looking for marriage or birth of my great grandfather??? i have looked > at all the birth & marriage in limerick now i am stuck there with my > credits help please can i go to another search area regards sylvia > family james mccabe > You can use the credits for any of the counties included on the web site. As I recall, you may have to do some additional registration when you go to another county. Mike

Hi Mike i will go look to see if theres any more i can pick up but ,My grandad did write limerick on his 1911 census yet the family always said cork i will go see if i can get cork up on this site thank you regards Sylvia canada Mike Saunders wrote: > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Paul and Sylvia <hiluv-8@shaw.ca> wrote: > > >> Hi maybe some one out there can help me i bought into limerick ireland >> ,,40euro there is really nothing else i can find that might help me i am >> looking for marriage or birth of my great grandfather??? i have looked >> at all the birth & marriage in limerick now i am stuck there with my >> credits help please can i go to another search area regards sylvia >> family james mccabe >> >> > You can use the credits for any of the counties included on the web site. > As I recall, you may have to do some additional registration when you go to > another county. > > Mike > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi maybe some one out there can help me i bought into limerick ireland ,,40euro there is really nothing else i can find that might help me i am looking for marriage or birth of my great grandfather??? i have looked at all the birth & marriage in limerick now i am stuck there with my credits help please can i go to another search area regards sylvia family james mccabe Carole Mason wrote: > Hi Cara > > > > I am getting nearer to the birth of Thomas in Ireland now. I would be very grateful if you could give the details of the christening to me. > > > > Thank you so much > > > > Carole > > > > > > >> 1. Thomas Larvin-1825 (Cara_Links) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:47:15 +1100 >> From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> >> Subject: [IRELAND] Thomas Larvin-1825 >> To: <ireland@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <152D3175B99D4EDD9DA95C52DCFC6C9B@Madden> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> I found a Thomas Lavin born to a Michael and Honora Hoban in Laughlin >> Roscommon 23/1/1825 should he be of any use to you- actually its a >> christening and its RC you have not said what religion your family were >> Cara >> > > > > > > > >>> IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.24/1954 - Release Date: 02/09/09 >> 17:40:00 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the IRELAND list administrator, send an email to >> IRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the IRELAND mailing list, send an email to IRELAND@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of IRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 50 >> ************************************** >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > 25GB of FREE Online Storage – Find out more > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665320/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Being first a history addict turned genealogy addict, I observed parallels to "lost friends and family" post colonial times of America. After the revolutionary war, emigrants wanted to violate indian treates signed by the British and move westward. Fer example, emigrants who wanted to go from Virginia to Tennessee or Kentucky (neither yet states), brought their wagon trains together in a town in Virginia (now West Virginia). Before plunging down the Appalachian Trail, they left messages to friends and family on a BB in front of a store, telling their loved ones where they were headed so they could be later found. I can imagine this BB system was repeated in many towns which were debarkation points for wagon trains west. donkelly ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> To: ireland@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Missing Friends ads Great addition, Chris. I enjoyed reading the ads. It had to be a hard time as a relative when one of your loved ones left and you never heard from them again. Hard to imagine in today's world of cell phones and Twitter. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message