Keatings, Kelly, Armstrong, Corrigan, Glass. Is anybody able to assist with pointing me to the right county with my surname interest or if any one is researching the above. Many thanks David

Judy~ Do you have birth records for timeline of 1903-1905 for the UK? Mary Ellen Chamber Judysnewname1@aol.com wrote: Bob, You welcome. I have a set of British Isle Vital cd's. It was on there. Judy ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/

Bob, I think this is what you are looking for, SUTTER, Robert Age: 28 Marriage Wife: Margaret BRADY Age: 19 Marriage Date: 12 Oct 1850 Recorded in: Miscellaneous, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Husband previously married Husband's Father: Bernard SUTTER Wife's Father: John BRADY Source: FHL Film 101313 Dates: 1850 - 1850

Listers: Looking for any information about ANN FLYNN, wife of Patrick DORGAN. Ann Flynn appears in the records as Ann, Johanna and Nancy Flynn (Flinn and Fling)! She was most likely from Ballyandreen, East Cork. There are Flynns still represented there. She is most likely buried in the ancestral Dorgan cemetery at Ballymacoda Hill Cemetery, Shanagarry, East Cork where the name Johanna appears on one of the two gravestones. I would appreciate any information about the FLYNN family of East Cork. BILL DORGAN email: billdorgan@billdorgan.com website: www.billdorgan.com Name: Patrick DARGAN ————————————————————————————————————————————— Birth: ABT 1830 Ballybraher, Parish of Cloyne, County Cork, Ireland Death: BEF 1886 Ballybraher, Ballycotton, County Cork, Ireland OCCUPATION: Farmer Spouse: Ann FLYNN Johanna Flynn appears in the records as Ann, Johanna and Nancy Flynn (Flinn and Fling)! She was most likely from Ballyandreen. There are Flynns still represented there. She is most likely buried in the ancestral Dorgan cemetery at Ballymacoda Hill Cemetery, Shanagarry, East Cork where the name Johanna appears on one of the two gravestones. ————————————————————————————————————————————— Children ————————————————————————————————————————————— 1 M: David DORGAN Birth: 1853 Ballybraher, Ballycotton, Parish of Cloyne, County Cork, Ireland Death: AUG 1917 Ballybraher, Cloyne, East Cork, Ireland Spouse: Elizabeth AHEARNE ————————————————————————————————————————————— 2 M: Michael DORGAN Birth: ABT 1855 Ballybraher, Ballycotton, Parish of Cloyne, County Cork, Ireland Spouse: Johanna GARDE Marriage: 17 MAY 1880 St. Coleman's Church, Cloyne, East Cork, Ireland ————————————————————————————————————————————— 3 F: Elizabeth DORGAN Birth: ABT 1856 Ballybraher, Ballycotton, County Cork, Ireland Death: AFT 1886 Spouse: John SHINNICK Marriage: ABT 1872 St. Coleman's Church, Cloyne, Co. Cork, Ireland ————————————————————————————————————————————— 4 F: Mary DORGAN Birth: ABT 1858 Ballybraher, Ballycotton, County Cork, Ireland Spouse: Jeremiah HEALY ————————————————————————————————————————————— 5 M: Patrick J. DORGAN Birth: 26 APR 1860 Ballybraher, Ballycotton, Parish of Cloyne, County Cork, Ireland Death: 9 DEC 1937 Cranston, Rhode Island Spouse: Mary Catherine HARTNETT Marriage: 26 NOV 1886 Cloyne RC Church, Cloyne, County Cork, Ireland

Hi all- I am looking for a marriage record of Robert SUTTER/SOUTER (and other sound-like spellings) and Margaret BRADY. I suspect that they got married in Antrim county around 1860. Is there a way to check on this marriage? Perhaps find an official record? Bob P.S. I have checked the Mormon site (familysearch.org) and the Scotlandspeople site already.

David: I have a family line with both Keatings and Kelly via marriages from New Ross Wexford County. In the US they settled in Chicago in the early 1850s Pat Lynch, Boston

I have just seen a name I have been researching and was so delighted it has never appeared before and I can find nothing on them. I have tried to go to the British Parliamentary Papers site and have crashed out twice. The name in question was JOHN McGANN, if I could get there would I find out anything else?? Regards Lorraine NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Joynt Labath" <labaths@worldnet.att.net> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 2:09 AM Subject: Co Clare Ratepayers 1884-1885 > From British Parliamentary Papers > http://www.eppi.ac.uk/ > > > Return of Names of Hundred Largest Ratepayers in each County in Ireland > 1884-85 > > County Clare > > White, Colonel Honourable C.W. > Inchequin, Lord > Kelly, Jeremiah, Representative of > MacNamara, Henry V > Vandeleur, Hecter S > Ball, Honourable Julia Selina > Nagle, James > D'Esterre, Henry Vassal > MacDonnell, Colonel W.E.A. > O'Gorman, Thomas > Moloney, Major William Mills > McGann, John, Representatives of > Crowe, Thomas > Butler, Colonel Augustine > Cullenan, John > Skerrett, Rev. H.H. > Blood, Baggott > Morice, Francis > Maunsell, Richard > Lyons, Daniel > Fitzgerald, Sir Augustine > Frost, James > Armstrong, Captain > Dawson, Richard > Healy, John > O'Callaghan, Colonel John > Reeves, Robert W.C. > Pilkington, Thomas > Reidy, William > Kenny, Anne Maria > O'Callaghan, Captain C.G. > Patterson, Colonel Marcus > Comyn, Francis L > Browne, Thomas B > Frost, Michael > Gore, Edward A > Martin, John G > Studdert, Captain Richard > Morelands, Dorcus > Healy, James > Studdert, Robert A > Cahill, John F > Keane, Francis B > Hanly, Robert > O'Brien, Pierce > O'Brien, James > Stackpoole, Richard > Frost, Patrick > Malony, Daniel > Ryan, Michael > O'Brien, Patrick > Hall, Joseph > Gabbet, George > Barry, Garret > Arthur, Thomas > Kerin, Mary > Mahon, Thomas G.S. > Kelly, Thomas > Johnston, Robert > Morony, Eleanor L > McMahon, Michael L > Delmege, John Christopher > Bentley, William > Cullinan, Thomas > Lynch, Patrick > Lynch, James > Kenny, Michael > Hickman, Francis W > Cahill, Thomas > Keane, Marcus > Lynch, John > McMahon, Michael > Cannon, William > Halpin, William > Conyngham, Marquis > Bannatyne, Alexander > Fitzgerald, James Foster Vesey > Frost, John J > Frost, John > Cullinan, Thomas > O'Dwyer, Patrick > Massy, Lady Mary Dillon > Enright, Andrew > Walsh, Rev. Robert > Hogan, Michael > Russell, William > O'Donohue, Michael > Blood, John > Bourke, Patrick > Joynt, Galbraith > Studdert, Robert W > Studdert, Charles Washington > Cullinan, John, sen. > Nagle, Patrick, Representatives of > Caher, John > O'Callaghan, George > Hean, Thomas Rice, Q.C. > Blake-Forster, Francis O'D > Nagle, Timothy > Phelps, Mrs. Rose > > Other information on the documents includes: > ResidenceRes/Non-Res, Petty Session District, Commission of the Peace?, > Property Rated / Occupier £, Property Rated / Immediate Lessor £ > > Cathy Joynt Labath > Researching JOYNT / JOINT anywhere, anytime > http://www.celticcousins.net/joynt/index.htm > > ______________________________ ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 128 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

SNIPPET: Margo LOCKWOOD is the author of several volumes of poetry, including "Left-Handed Happiness," "Bare Elegy," and "Black Dog." She was living in Brookline, MA, 1997, at the time she reflected on the subject of lace curtains: She admitted to feeling sometimes bothered by the term 'lace-curtain Irish.' Per Margo -- "Some Irish-Americans use it in a self-mocking way, not about themselves, but about their grandparents, perhaps, or some distant relative. I used to hear it employed to describe a section of town more wealthy and established, where people owned rather than rented their houses. It may not have been an epithet for people who wanted to better themselves or who were aping their betters. They wanted to have lace curtains up, too, but maybe all their furniture was just right out of the alley. There was a pejorative sense that people were putting up a front...." Looking back, Margo recalled - "When I was eight years old, in 1947, we lived on the second floor of a rented three-decker in a neighborhood of Brookline, MA, called Whiskey Point. My mother brought a proper frame for the starching and stretch-drying of our lace curtains from the household of a neighbor who had died. It was a long, expandable oak frame propped up on pointed legs, and there were two-inch needles that held up to six lace curtains at a time, one atop the other, so they could dry from morning till night. Kneeling on the porch floor and taking the curtains out one by one from the starch water, out from the zinc tub, I would be allowed to place the curtains on the needles. I always slipped and pricked my fingers, and there would be blood on the borders of those curtains. The lace was stiff from the starch, even when wet. You had to be quick and nimble-fingered. The material would drip on you as you positioned your outstreched arms to flip the curtain up to the top of the frame. Even if one lace curtain didn't have the little bit of red bloodstain on it, another would. To me, the lace curtain was our beauty because I never liked our furniture. It meant we would suffer to have a nice house. . The lace curtains defined us. We had to have something up at the windows over dark green canvas blackout blinds, dusty and ripped and taped, which were obigatory all during the Second World War. By the time the 40's and then the 50's were over, a political wind shifted. And there was a lot more than lace curtains blowing in the wind. The ascension of John F. KENNEDY to the White House made the press very interested in analyzing his family style. They were fascinated with the way Rose KENNEDY was supposed to be an arbiter in the ways of Irish social life. So in the papers you would read those kinds of 'tag phrases' about the Irish being used offhandedly and, in the main, not to any point. Later, in 1972, when I went to live in Dublin with my three children, I saw early models for Boston lace curtains hanging from tall windows in nearly derelict houses propped up with massive beams. The fan lights and casement windows were broken in part, and the house for generations had been reverting to tenements with many families inhabiting them. My mother came to visit and walked with me over the quays and the O'Connell Street Bridge to see the city. We had our barmbrack and tea, sitting on Bewley's velvet couches in the famous Oriental Tea Rooms, and then crossed over to the rough Northside of Dublin. The houses were still magnificent there, 18th century Georgian places, but the days when they housed high-toned Anglo-Irish 'rentiers' or English civil servants were long past. I had to visit the houses on on Capel Street and Pearse Square to order school uniforms and pay a fee to 'clothiers' or 'outfitters' who had concessions from the Christian Brothers' school where I had just enrolled my children. Many a dim gray morning I had to track through the Northside streets to find some spinster who would measure up a child for a uniform. I hated those errands, but I loved to peer into the old house fronts and see those lace curtains. They served as fashionable filters for aristocratic Liffey-side Dubliners. But in the early 70's they were frayed remnants, the scrim of the lives of the impoverished residents but they were nonetheless beautiful. My mother was bemused by the elaborate lace designs and wondered aloud how old they were. She said it was like impressive Spanish lace she'd studied in the Isabella Stewart Gardener Museum in Boston, from the 17th and 18th centuries. Lacework was honored in Ireland, and because of the flax and linen trades, it was once a cottage industry. And it made its way to the three-deckers in Irish-American neighborhoods. And who is to complain if what the lace curtains once represented is no longer there, if the lace curtains still blow in the windows on Dublin's Northside or on the Jamaica Road back porches of my memory?" -- Excerpts, "The Irish In America," eds. Coffey and Golway (1997)

Any Samuel riddle's please? Lloyd ----- Original Message ----- From: <Judysnewname1@aol.com> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Riddle > Lloyd, > > Sorry there is no Samuel Riddle with father John on here. > > Judy > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ > >

Is 1688 too early ? If not I can give you a little at this date.about ARMSTRONG of Inniskillin (Fermanagh). Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Kettings" <djkettings@xtra.co.nz> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 7:35 AM Subject: [IRELAND] Keatings, Kelly, Armstrong, Corrigan, Glass > Keatings, Kelly, Armstrong, Corrigan, Glass. > > Is anybody able to assist with pointing me to the right county with my surname interest or if any one is researching the above. > Many thanks > David > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ > >

Thanks Judy. I am particularly interested in my ggf who was Samuel Alfred Riddle f John Riddle m Elizabeth Flannigan,all catholic,South Ireland. Thanks and regards Lloyd Riddle ----- Original Message ----- From: <Judysnewname1@aol.com> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Riddle > There are 75 Riddle names beginning 1865. > > Judy > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ > >

Lloyd, Two Samuel Riddles. RIDDLES, Samuel Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 29 Jul 1870 Birthplace: 496, Port Rush, Ant, Ire Recorded in: Antrim, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: William RIDDLES Mother: Elizabeth GALBRAITH Source: FHL Film 101210 Dates: 1870 - 1871 RIDDELL, Samuel Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 4 Feb 1871 Birthplace: 84, Richhill, Arm, Ire Recorded in: Armagh, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: James RIDDELL Mother: Isabella IRVINE Source: FHL Film 255810 Dates: 1871 - 1872 Judy

Rachel, No William Ford's on here before 1846. Only birth of Rachael Boyle is in 1874. Think this marriage is to late. FORDE, William Marriage Wife: Margaret Jane HALL Age: 19 Marriage Date: 8 Aug 1855 Recorded in: Killeevan, Monaghan, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Husband's Father: William FORDE Wife's Father: Thomas HALL Source: FHL Film 101364 Dates: 1855 - 1855 That's all that's on the CD. Judy

Lloyd, Sorry there is no Samuel Riddle with father John on here. Judy

Thanks for looking Judy Regards Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: <Judysnewname1@aol.com> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] FLYNN - SULLIVAN > Patricia, > > There isn't any record of marriage on my CD. No birth record either for > John. > > So sorry, > > Judy > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ >

65 Elizabeth Flanagan beginning 1795. Judy

There are 75 Riddle names beginning 1865. Judy

Judy, Cold you please see if you can find birth records for james wall, possibly born in Dunlavin, Baltinglass or Dublin = not sure where. Parents names believed to be James and Esther 'Hennan' Wall. thank you. pete

Patricia, There isn't any record of marriage on my CD. No birth record either for John. So sorry, Judy

SNIPPET: Per Willie O'KANE in the 1998 #2 issue of "Irish Roots" magazine published in Cork, County Monaghan is a landlocked county, having boundaries with four other Ulster counties - Tyrone, Armagh, Fermanagh and Cavan - as well as Louth and Meath. Monaghan is part of the Republic of Ireland portion of the province of Ulster, along with Cos. Donegal and Cavan. (Counties in the Northern Ireland portion of the province of Ulster are Antrim, Armagh, Derry/Londonderry, Down, Fermanagh and Tyrone). Co. Monaghan's name derives from "Muineachan," the place of the thickets. Much of the county is a mix of rounded hills and poorly drained uplands interspersed with more fertile and manageable soils on the lower parts where limestone predominates. The highest hills are the Slieve Beagh range in the NW, along the Tyrone border. Reaching around 1,200 feet in height, the range is somewhat isolated and featureless. Other mountains are Cairmore, with its deep upland lake, and Crieve Mountain overlooking the southern part of the county. The Blackwater is the chief river in Monaghan, and today most of the county is given to pasture and beef farming with sheep on the higher farmland. Nearer the main towns, potatoes and cabbage are grown, while in the northern part, near Tyrone, there is a concentration of mushroom-growing industries. Monaghan is the county town, being the episcopal seat of Clogher diocese and noted for St. Macartan's Roman Catholic cathedral. The town has long served a relatively prosperous mixed-farming area, and despite a decline in local industries over the past few decades, evidence of its former solidity remains in buildings like the Market House, dating from the 1790s, the Westenra Hotel and the nearby printing works producing the "Northern Standard" newspaper. Clones, 12 miles west of Monaghan, possesses a fine high cross in the market place and several notable Georgian houses. The chief GAA playing field in Ulster is located here, and provincial matches regularly attract tens of! thousands to the town. Castleblaney, at the head of Lough Mucknoo, one of the largest of Monaghan's many lakes, is the hometown of 'Big Tom' McBRIDE, pioneer exponent of the hybrid musical form known as 'Country and Irish.' Other towns include Newbliss, Emyvale and Ballybay. Carrickmacross, in the SW of the county, is noted for its fine lace, a tradition stretching back several centuries and in today carried on by a dedicated co-operative movement. Just NE of Carrickmacross is the hamlet of Iniskeen, near which Patrick KAVANAGH (1904-67) was born in the townland of Mucker. His poetry, increasingly recognised as among the best of any Irish writer, celebrated the dignity of life amid the small farms and country people he knew so well. It also poignantly records the price exacted by the ties of land and kinship, and the anguish of struggling to establish identity and purpose in a society that had little appreciation for artistic values. His work has influences later Irish writers. There is a great variety of family names in Co. Monaghan, mainly of native Ulster origin, although in the Ulster Plantation many Scots and English settlers arrived in the county. Prominent Monaghan names include McMAHON, McKENNA, HUGHES, McCABE, SMITH, KELLY, MAGUIRE, MURRAY, WOODS, O'CONNOLLY, DUFFY, LESLIE, HAMILTON, SHIRLEY and TREANOR. Of note - The surname MONAGHAN (also spelt MONAHAN) has no connection to Co. Monaghan. It is chiefly to be found in the Cos. of Galway, Mayo, and Fermanagh, all of which are not far away from the original home of the O'MONAGHANs in Co. Roscommon. The Annals of the Four Masters record O'MONAGHAN as Lord of the Three Tuathas of Roscommon in 1287, about the time they were displaced from the lordship by the O'HANLEYs. The surname derives from a famous Connacht warrior of the ninth century. 'Manachain' also denotes a monk and the name is often translated as MONK or MONKS. Dick MONK, who was one of the 1798 rebels, was also known as Richard MONAGHAN, per surname expert Edward MacLYSAGHT.