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    1. Re: [IRELAND] Co. Antrim & Co. Armagh C of I Parish Records/Armagh City's Features
    2. Jean R.
    3. Ken - Check also with the PRONI and the LDS websites. The following is a partial list (1991) of C of I Parish records in Dublin Repositories: CO. ANTRIM Parish/Belfast Cathedral Marriages 1874-93 - Representative Church Body Library (RCBL) microfilm. also Marriages 1745-99 - "Journal of the Association for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead in Ireland" ( IMA) Vol 12/13. Parish/Jordanstown Baptisms 1878-1974 - RCBL microfilm CO. ARMAGH Parish/Newtownhamilton Baptisms, Marriages and Burials 1622-1826 - National Library MS 2669 (Leslie transcript). Parish/Newry Baptisms, Marriages and Burials 1784-1864 - National Library (NL) MSS. 2202-34 (Leslie transcript). Parish/Mullaghbrack Baptisms, Marriages and Burials 1622-1826 - National Library (NL) MS 2669 (Leslie transcript). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hess" <kray83@comcast.net> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Armagh City's Features > Jean, > Where could I found info on Belfast and births and marriages back to the mid > 1700's, or is there any good source? > Thanks > Ken Hess > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> > To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:39 AM > Subject: [IRELAND] Armagh City's Features

    11/08/2005 06:41:15
    1. "The Man Of The North Countrie" -- Thomas D'Arcy McGEE (1825-1868)
    2. Jean R.
    3. THE MAN OF THE NORTH COUNTRIE He came from the North, and his words were few, But his voice was kind and his heart was true; And I knew by his eyes no guile had he, So I married the man of the North Countrie. Oh! Garryowen may be more gay, Than this quiet street of Ballibay; And I know the sun shines softly down On the river that passes my native town. But there's not -- I say it with joy and pride -- Better man than mine in Munster wide; And Limerick town has no happier hearth Than mine has been with my man of the North. I wish that in Munster they only knew The kind, kind neighbours I came unto; Small hate or scorn would ever be Between the South and the North Countrie. -- Thomas D'Arcy McGee (1825-1868)

    11/08/2005 06:09:55
    1. John HAMILTON of Donegal (1800-1884) - Humane and Progressive Landlord
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: Irish landlords have never been particularly popular figures in Irish memory, per book review in Dublin's "Ireland of the Welcomes" magazine. Only a minority of them were benevolent in any sort of general way. John HAMILTON was exceptional in that he was humane, progressive and spoke six languages. For his tenants he almost bankrupted himself building houses, laying roads and founding schools. He knew in great detail the particular circumstances of every family on his estate. He kept a most detailed diary over many years, taking an interest in social and political matters and the events of his time. Further reading: "John Hamilton of Donegal 1800-1884," Dermot JAMES, published 1998, The Woodfield Press, 17 Jamestown Square, Inchicore, Dublin 8, p/b ISBN 0-9528453-4-2. Perhaps you can still locate a copy if the subject interests you

    11/07/2005 10:17:25
    1. Re: [IRELAND] Armagh City's Features - Early Belfast & Ulster Resources
    2. Jean R.
    3. Hi, Ken -- Civil Records/State registrations of non-Catholic marriages began in Ireland in 1845. All births, deaths and marriages have been registered in Ireland since 1864. I assume you have tried some Google searches using your keywords? Provincial/Trade directories with data on Belfast from 1819-1894 include those by Thomas Bradshaw; J. Pigot; Pigot and Co.; William Matier; Matthew Martin (w/street addresses); Slater's (several between1846-1894)l James A. Henderson; Hugh Adair; R. Wynne; 'Derry Almanac' (Portrush only) 1881; G. H. Bassett. The single most important newspaper for Belfast and Ulster was the "Belfast Newsletter" which began publication in 1737. It had a wider geographical range than any of the Dublin papers, covering virtually all of east Ulster. Outside Belfast the most significant publications were the "Londonderry Journal," from 1772, which also covered a good deal of Donegal and Tyrone (and some news from other major Irish cities, including Belfast). The "Londonderry Journal" was published by George DOUGLAS and various partners beginning with issue #1, June 3, 1772, published semi-weekly through May 1, 1781, and weekly thereafter. Perhaps you can locate a copy of Donald M. SCHLEGEL's book, "Irish Genealogical Abstracts from the Londonderry Journal 1772-1784," published a few years ago. With an every-name index, this book is fascinating reading. Few, if any,early issues of the "Newry Journal and Strabane Journal" exist. The best single repository for Irish newspapers is the British Library. After 1826 the Library was obliged to hold a copy of all Irish publications, and from that date its collection is virtually complete. It also has extensive, though patchy, collection before that date. Within Ireland the largest collection is held by the National Library, though by no means comprehensive, and some unique copies are held in local libraries and other repositories. The Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) Belfast has published a complete guide, "Northern Ireland Newspapers Checklist with Locations." A number of indices do exist in various repositories to biographical material found in Irish newspapers. Unfortunately, the index to material in the 'Belfast Newsletter" (1737-1800), held by the Linen Hall Library in Belfast, is in chronological order rather than alphabetical order. Several websites have transcriptions from old newspapers. D. J. Owen wrote, "History of Belfast," pub. in Belfast in 1921 a copy of which is in the National Library of Dublin. Robert M Young's books are "Historical Notices of Old Belfast and its Vicinity," pub. 1896, and "The Town Book of the Corporation of Belfast, 1613-1816," pub. 1892. As pointed out in e-mails in recent days, text from many old books is being put on the web. Google Print announced its first release of "public domain" non-copyright material, through its partnership with numerous libraries with wealth of interesting books. The full text is searchable - Books related to particular surnames and local histories.. Because of the copyright protection issue, most of the books are a bit on the old side, which for genealogists, is great. http://print.google.com/ Also FHL Books Online at BYU You can go to the Brigham Young University website http://www.lib.byu.edu/ task; books out of copyright are being done first. Check out some of these websites: www.familysearch.org www.cyndislist.com/ Andrew J. Morris website. The book, "Tracing Your Irish Ancestors," by John Grenham has a reader-friendly chapter on each Irish country, all types of records, books, journals, where to find them. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hess" <kray83@comcast.net> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Armagh City's Features > Jean, > Where could I found info on Belfast and births and marriages back to the mid > 1700's, or is there any good source? > Thanks > Ken Hess > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> > To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:39 AM > Subject: [IRELAND] Armagh City's Features

    11/07/2005 02:08:57
    1. !! Ballina Chronicle; Apr 10, 1850; Appeal Against Poor Rates
    2. Cathy Joynt Labath
    3. BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Mayo, Ireland Wednesday, April 10, 1850 IMPORTANT DECISION IN CASES OF APPEAL AGAINST POOR RATES It will be seen by a report which we give elsewhere that in all cases of appeal against poor rates the appellant must be a party to the recognizances which the law requires to be entered into in such cases. It has been generally supposed that an agent, appointed in writing by a principal, had authority, under a recent statute, to sign the notices and recognizances in his own name; but, the question having been raised by Mr. McAndrew, on the part of the Guardians of the poor of this union, at the late Sessions at Swinford, upon an ejection made by him to the validity of a recognizance signed by the agent of Sir Roger Palmer, it would now seem that the authority of the agent merely confers upon him the right of signing the name of the appellant to the recognizances to which, it would appear, that the appellant himself must, of necessity, in law, be a party. We think the Assistant Barrister has taken a very fair and a very reasonable view of the question, for we consider that it could never have been contemplated that the Guardians should, in such cases, lose the security of a principal for recovery of costs to which they might possibly be unnecessarily subjected. Besides, it is not opposing any difficulty to the bringing of appeals, nor does it interfere with the due facility which it was intended should be given for this purpose, to hold that the name of the principal should in all cases be signed to the recognizances, as it is quite as easy for the agent to sign the name of the appellant as to sign his own name. We believe the question had not been raised before. The decision upon it is important, and, in our opinion, reasonable, and in accordance with the spirit and true interpretation of the law upon the subject. SWINFORD QUARTER SESSIONS These sessions commenced on Wednesday last. There were about 800 civil bills entered for trial, of which there were a great many for recovery of poor rates payable to the Guardians of the Poor of the Ballina, Killala, Swinford and Castlebar Unions. There were about fifty appeals against the rate in the Killala Union, of which eighteen were brought by Sir Roger Palmer, in each of which the valuation was reduced at the rate of from 25 to 30 per cent. There were also 12 appeals against the rate made in this union on 11th Dec. 1849. One of these appeals was brought by John F. Knox, Esq., of Mountfalcon; one by Mr. Wm. Joynt, of Crossmolina; and ten by Sir R. Palmer. John F. Knox, Appellant; the Guardians of the poor of the Ballina Union, Respondents. In this case the appellant complained principally of being overvalued. The Valuator, Mr. Cunningham, admitted that in some cases he had been valued too highly, and the valuation was reduced in conformity with his evidence. Wm. Joynt, Appellant; Same, Respondents. In this case the appellant complained of being overvalued as occupier. On reference to the rate book it appeared that the rate of which he complained had been charged against him as Immediate Lessor. The appeal was accordingly dismissed. Sir Roger Palmer, Appellant; Same, Respondents. Mr. Thomas MacAndrew, on behalf of the Respondents, said- I object to the right of the appellant to be heard in this case. I rely for the support of my objection upon the insufficiency of the recognizance, which I content should have been entered into by the appellant either in person or by his agent. The recognizance in the present case has been signed by the agent in his own name, which I submit is bad. I refer to the 22d and 23d sections of the act 12th and 13th Vic, cap. 164. I submit also that in respect of property for which the appellant has been rated as occupier, he has no authority to appoint an agent for the purpose of an appeal, but should himself act in person. Mr. O'Donel, on behalf of the appellant, argued in support of the recognizance, and contended that the known agent of a party, duly appointed, was authorized in law to sign the notices and enter into the necessary recognizances in his own name, and that the introduction of the name of the appellant, in such cases into the recognizances, so as to bind him therelly, was not required by law. Court - I think the objection raised to this recognizance is a good one. The party appealing is required to enter into a recognizance either by himself or his agent, and I think an agent duly appointed to bring an appeal has authority to sign the name of the appellant to the recognizance; but where the agent signs his own name instead of that of the principal, he thereby releases the appellant, as far as the recognizance is concerned, form all liability as to costs, which I think was not intended by the act, and there is then no compliance with that part of the law which makes it necessary, for the appellant to enter into a recognizance. I must therefore dismiss the appeal. Nine other cases of Sir Roger Palmer's went off upon the same point and were accordingly dismissed. Mr. O'Donel applied to the court to have the cause of the dismissal of the appeals entered as a matter of record in the books. Mr. MacAndrew opposed this application and stated that if any particular reason were assigned upon the record for the dismissal of the appeals, and that appellant afterwards removed the proceedings by certiorari to the Queen's Bench, the respondents might be concluded by it, and might be deprived of an opportunity of raising any further object to the notice or recognizance which he stated that, if necessary, he was prepared to do. The Assistant Barrister refused to allow the cause of the dismissal to be inserted on the books but said that although his own opinion, on the subject was still, in order to allow the appellant an opportunity of referring to any decisions upon the point which he might suppose to be in his favor, he would allow the cases to remain open until the June Sessions of Ballina, when he stated he would confirm the dismisses if no cause were shown to the contrary. These cases therefore stand thus for the present. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

    11/07/2005 12:45:19
    1. John MORLEY, b May 1803, Waterford (St. Patrick's).
    2. Ros Davies
    3. Hello, listers I'm seeking information on John MORLEY, born May 1803, Waterford (St. Patrick's). John MORLEY was a Private/Corporal in the 1st Regiment of Foot (2nd Battalion). He enlisted 25 May 1826 at Waterford and was discharged from service (due to illness) 18 June 1844 at Ennis Killen, Ireland. He served approx. 3 years in the East Indies and approx. 4 years in Canada. Any information on John MORLEY would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Ros Davies Canada

    11/07/2005 10:50:11
    1. Re: [IRELAND] Armagh City's Features
    2. Ken Hess
    3. Jean, Where could I found info on Belfast and births and marriages back to the mid 1700's, or is there any good source? Thanks Ken Hess ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:39 AM Subject: [IRELAND] Armagh City's Features > SNIPPET: Once a racecourse, Armagh city's wonderful, tree-lined Georgian > Mall is shaped like a cricket bat, a fitting design for a place where the > thunder of horses hooves has long since been replaced by the echo of > leather on willow. One can sit on a wall in the Mall with the gentle > evening breeze tugging at the chestnut blossom, while white flannelled > sportsmen, out there between the ranks of historic cannon, play leisurely > cricket on its green, green grass. > > Many of the limestone buildings are a testament to the architect Francis > JOHNSTON, and his sponsor Archbishop ROBINSON, harking back to a time when > clerics were rich and sure patrons of the arts. Irish Georgian > architecture is one of elegance, simplicity and style. > > At the south end of the Mall stands the old gaol, now minus gallows; at > the north end JOHNSTON's 1809 Court House. On the east stands the one-time > schoolhouse, which is now the Armagh County Museum. How improving it must > have been for the school's pupils to be pulled by the ears and lined up in > ranks to watch malfeasants, hobbling in irons from north to south to be > held for deportation or worse. How reassuring for townhouse residents > looking down from their elegant balconies, seemingly mindless of the poor > and starving on the village edge. > > Today, Armagh is best savoured listening to the music in its uillean > pipers' clubs, following its road-bowls champions along high-hedged lanes > and by walking through its Bramley apple orchards in May. > > -- Excerpts, "Irish Counties," J. J. Lee (1997) > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup > volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ >

    11/07/2005 05:23:18
    1. Re: [IRELAND] Quaker SURNAMES - Were your Irish Ancestors Quakers?
    2. Bonny
    3. My surname "Dillon" is in this list. I never thought of them as Quakers but it's a possibility...especially since i have had NO luck at all in researching them elsewhere! Where can you check into this?? Bonny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Quaker SURNAMES - Were your Irish Ancestors Quakers? > SURNAMES: Include Abbot, Abell, Adair, Alexander, Allen, Baker, Banfield, > Banks, Barclay, Barcroft, Barnes, Barrington, Beale, Bell, Bennis, Bewley, > Birkett, Boake, Boardman, Boles, Bowles, Brocklesby, Browett, Butler, > Calvert, Carleton, Carroll, Chandlee, Chapman, Chaytor, Cherry, Christy, > Church, Clark, Clibborn, Cole, Cooper, Cotter, Courtenay, Creeth, Davis, > Dawson, Deaves, Devonshire, Dickinson, Dillon, Dobbs, Douglas, Doyle, > Druitt, Duckett, Dudley, Edmondson, Edmundson, Elley, Eustace, Evans, > Eves, > Fairbrother, Fayle, Fennell, Fisher, Fitzpatrick, Fitt, Forbes, Fox, > Fuller, > Gamble, Garratt, Garnett, Gatchell, Glynn, Goff, Goffe, Going, Goodbody, > Gough, Green, Greer, Gribble, Grubb, Hall, Halliday, Handy, Hancock, > Hanks, > Harris, Harvey, Hatton, Haughton, Haydock, Heritage, Hewson, Hill, > Hillary, > Hogg, Hoope, Hoowe, Hudson, Hughes, Humphries, Hutchinson, Inman, Jackson, > Jaffray, Jellicoe, Jenkinson, Jessop, King, Knott, Lamb, Leadbeater, > Lecky, > Lucas, Lynas, Maquillan, Malcolmson, Malone, Manders, Manliffe, Manly, > Mark, > Martin, Mason, Medcalf, Meyers, Miller, Milner, Moore, Morris, Morrison, > Moss, Mullin, Murphy, Murray, Neale, Nevins, Newbold, Newenham, Newsom, > Nicholson, Noble, O'Brien, O'Callaghan, Pattison, Pearce, Pearson, Peet, > Penn, Penrose, Perry, Petticrew, Phelps, Philips, Pike, Pillar, Pim, > Poole, > Rhodes, Richardson, Ridgway, Roberts, Robinson, Rooke, Russell, Sandwith, > Scott, Shackleton, Sikes, Simmons, Sinton, Smith, Smithson, Sparrow, > Stephens, Stott, Strangeman, Strettell, Taylor, Thacker, Thomas, Thompson, > Todhunter, Tolerton, Trapnell, Turner, Turtle, Unthank, Uprichard, > Wakefield, Walker, Walpole, Walsh, Wardell, Waring, Watson, Webb, Wheddon, > White, Whitfield, Whitten, Wigham, Wight, Wilcocks, Wilkinson, Williams, > Wilson, Wright, Woodcock, Woods, Wyly > > It should be noted that these surnames were not exclusively those of > Quaker > families - especially, the more common Irish surnames. > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> > To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:56 PM > Subject: [IRELAND] Were your Irish Ancestors Quakers? > > >> SNIPPET: Was your ancestor a Quaker? If so, you are fortunate in that > there is very good documentation available for your genealogy research to > include a collection of published Quaker family histories and a collection > of 232 pedigrees covering the major Irish Quaker families! <snip> > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup > volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ >

    11/07/2005 04:54:56
    1. Re: [IRELAND] Quaker SURNAMES - Were your Irish Ancestors Quakers?
    2. Jean R.
    3. Hi Bonny, Since Quakers married fellow Quakers generation after generation, it would seem that you would have heard about that faith in your family. Your best bet would be to contact living family members here at Christmas-time, tell them of your FH project and enlist their help. Someone should be able to come up with more definitive information for you to work with. In fact, cousins and uncles and their old family albums, letters, postcards, have been a great help to me. J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonny" <bonny.d@sasktel.net> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Quaker SURNAMES - Were your Irish Ancestors Quakers? > My surname "Dillon" is in this list. I never thought of them as Quakers but > it's a possibility...especially since i have had NO luck at all in > researching them elsewhere! Where can you check into this?? > > Bonny > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> > To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Quaker SURNAMES - Were your Irish Ancestors Quakers? > > > > SURNAMES: Include Abbot, Abell, Adair, Alexander, Allen, Baker, Banfield, > > Banks, Barclay, Barcroft, Barnes, Barrington, Beale, Bell, Bennis, Bewley, > > Birkett, Boake, Boardman, Boles, Bowles, Brocklesby, Browett, Butler, > > Calvert, Carleton, Carroll, Chandlee, Chapman, Chaytor, Cherry, Christy, > > Church, Clark, Clibborn, Cole, Cooper, Cotter, Courtenay, Creeth, Davis, > > Dawson, Deaves, Devonshire, Dickinson, Dillon, Dobbs, Douglas, Doyle, > > Druitt, Duckett, Dudley, Edmondson, Edmundson, Elley, Eustace, Evans, > > Eves, > > Fairbrother, Fayle, Fennell, Fisher, Fitzpatrick, Fitt, Forbes, Fox, > > Fuller, > > Gamble, Garratt, Garnett, Gatchell, Glynn, Goff, Goffe, Going, Goodbody, > > Gough, Green, Greer, Gribble, Grubb, Hall, Halliday, Handy, Hancock, > > Hanks, > > Harris, Harvey, Hatton, Haughton, Haydock, Heritage, Hewson, Hill, > > Hillary, > > Hogg, Hoope, Hoowe, Hudson, Hughes, Humphries, Hutchinson, Inman, Jackson, > > Jaffray, Jellicoe, Jenkinson, Jessop, King, Knott, Lamb, Leadbeater, > > Lecky, > > Lucas, Lynas, Maquillan, Malcolmson, Malone, Manders, Manliffe, Manly, > > Mark, > > Martin, Mason, Medcalf, Meyers, Miller, Milner, Moore, Morris, Morrison, > > Moss, Mullin, Murphy, Murray, Neale, Nevins, Newbold, Newenham, Newsom, > > Nicholson, Noble, O'Brien, O'Callaghan, Pattison, Pearce, Pearson, Peet, > > Penn, Penrose, Perry, Petticrew, Phelps, Philips, Pike, Pillar, Pim, > > Poole, > > Rhodes, Richardson, Ridgway, Roberts, Robinson, Rooke, Russell, Sandwith, > > Scott, Shackleton, Sikes, Simmons, Sinton, Smith, Smithson, Sparrow, > > Stephens, Stott, Strangeman, Strettell, Taylor, Thacker, Thomas, Thompson, > > Todhunter, Tolerton, Trapnell, Turner, Turtle, Unthank, Uprichard, > > Wakefield, Walker, Walpole, Walsh, Wardell, Waring, Watson, Webb, Wheddon, > > White, Whitfield, Whitten, Wigham, Wight, Wilcocks, Wilkinson, Williams, > > Wilson, Wright, Woodcock, Woods, Wyly > > > > It should be noted that these surnames were not exclusively those of > > Quaker > > families - especially, the more common Irish surnames. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> > > To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:56 PM > > Subject: [IRELAND] Were your Irish Ancestors Quakers? > > > > > >> SNIPPET: Was your ancestor a Quaker? If so, you are fortunate in that > > there is very good documentation available for your genealogy research to > > include a collection of published Quaker family histories and a collection > > of 232 pedigrees covering the major Irish Quaker families! <snip> > > > > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup > > volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ > > > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ >

    11/07/2005 04:26:17
    1. Social Security Death Indexes Online
    2. Pat Connors
    3. Cliff has given me permission to repeat his post to the NY-Westchester County mailing list. This is really informative. Since the online Social Security Death Indexes were mentioned about a week ago, I have written a webpage analyzing the ones that I found. There are six versions available, none of them by the Social Security Administration. I spent a day comparing them. In the final analysis, the RootsWeb SSDI is slightly more accurate the other, and it is kept up-to-date. I like Family Tree Legends almost as much, but it is missing the last two and half years of information. It supplies the age at death that none of the other SSDI websites have. There is a problem on all of the SSDI sites concerning the accuracy of reporting the Last Known Residence. In the SSDI information supplied by the Social Security Administration, only a zip code is given for Last Known Residence. Various SSDI sites take the zip code and try to convert it into a location. A zip code area might include several hamlets, a village or two, and much rural area that could only be described as being in a certain Township or Town. All but one SSDI website list only a single location for that entire zip code area. That means that a wrong last residence is listed for a large percentage of the people present in the Social Security Death Indexes found online. And that leads to wrong information in our genealogical records. The least accurate is the Family Search (Latter Day Saints) site. This is due to a label which is meant to apply to more than one situation, but when faced with the most common situation, the label is misleading. The six websites are all different. Some have features that the others lack. Stephen P. Morse has developed some marvelous software that allows searches of the six SSDI sites all at once in such a way that using his search form will allow a person to do searches not allowed on the six sites individually. For example, if you don't know when the person died, he allows a search using a range of years of possible death. The data that gets displayed looks like that of RootsWeb, but also includes the age at death, a nice feature which was not supplied by the Social Security Administration. The Social Security Administration sells the data to these SSDI websites, including the Social Security numbers. If they were concerned about the SS numbers of dead people being published, they wouldn't sell the information. To learn about how the USA Patriot Act plays a role in the availability of this information, view my webpage. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clifflamere/Aid/AID-SocSecDI.htm Cliff Lamere -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

    11/07/2005 02:35:23
    1. Armagh City's Features
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: Once a racecourse, Armagh city's wonderful, tree-lined Georgian Mall is shaped like a cricket bat, a fitting design for a place where the thunder of horses hooves has long since been replaced by the echo of leather on willow. One can sit on a wall in the Mall with the gentle evening breeze tugging at the chestnut blossom, while white flannelled sportsmen, out there between the ranks of historic cannon, play leisurely cricket on its green, green grass. Many of the limestone buildings are a testament to the architect Francis JOHNSTON, and his sponsor Archbishop ROBINSON, harking back to a time when clerics were rich and sure patrons of the arts. Irish Georgian architecture is one of elegance, simplicity and style. At the south end of the Mall stands the old gaol, now minus gallows; at the north end JOHNSTON's 1809 Court House. On the east stands the one-time schoolhouse, which is now the Armagh County Museum. How improving it must have been for the school's pupils to be pulled by the ears and lined up in ranks to watch malfeasants, hobbling in irons from north to south to be held for deportation or worse. How reassuring for townhouse residents looking down from their elegant balconies, seemingly mindless of the poor and starving on the village edge. Today, Armagh is best savoured listening to the music in its uillean pipers' clubs, following its road-bowls champions along high-hedged lanes and by walking through its Bramley apple orchards in May. -- Excerpts, "Irish Counties," J. J. Lee (1997)

    11/07/2005 01:39:21
    1. Re: [IRELAND] Quaker SURNAMES - Were your Irish Ancestors Quakers?
    2. Jean R.
    3. SURNAMES: Include Abbot, Abell, Adair, Alexander, Allen, Baker, Banfield, Banks, Barclay, Barcroft, Barnes, Barrington, Beale, Bell, Bennis, Bewley, Birkett, Boake, Boardman, Boles, Bowles, Brocklesby, Browett, Butler, Calvert, Carleton, Carroll, Chandlee, Chapman, Chaytor, Cherry, Christy, Church, Clark, Clibborn, Cole, Cooper, Cotter, Courtenay, Creeth, Davis, Dawson, Deaves, Devonshire, Dickinson, Dillon, Dobbs, Douglas, Doyle, Druitt, Duckett, Dudley, Edmondson, Edmundson, Elley, Eustace, Evans, Eves, Fairbrother, Fayle, Fennell, Fisher, Fitzpatrick, Fitt, Forbes, Fox, Fuller, Gamble, Garratt, Garnett, Gatchell, Glynn, Goff, Goffe, Going, Goodbody, Gough, Green, Greer, Gribble, Grubb, Hall, Halliday, Handy, Hancock, Hanks, Harris, Harvey, Hatton, Haughton, Haydock, Heritage, Hewson, Hill, Hillary, Hogg, Hoope, Hoowe, Hudson, Hughes, Humphries, Hutchinson, Inman, Jackson, Jaffray, Jellicoe, Jenkinson, Jessop, King, Knott, Lamb, Leadbeater, Lecky, Lucas, Lynas, Maquillan, Malcolmson, Malone, Manders, Manliffe, Manly, Mark, Martin, Mason, Medcalf, Meyers, Miller, Milner, Moore, Morris, Morrison, Moss, Mullin, Murphy, Murray, Neale, Nevins, Newbold, Newenham, Newsom, Nicholson, Noble, O'Brien, O'Callaghan, Pattison, Pearce, Pearson, Peet, Penn, Penrose, Perry, Petticrew, Phelps, Philips, Pike, Pillar, Pim, Poole, Rhodes, Richardson, Ridgway, Roberts, Robinson, Rooke, Russell, Sandwith, Scott, Shackleton, Sikes, Simmons, Sinton, Smith, Smithson, Sparrow, Stephens, Stott, Strangeman, Strettell, Taylor, Thacker, Thomas, Thompson, Todhunter, Tolerton, Trapnell, Turner, Turtle, Unthank, Uprichard, Wakefield, Walker, Walpole, Walsh, Wardell, Waring, Watson, Webb, Wheddon, White, Whitfield, Whitten, Wigham, Wight, Wilcocks, Wilkinson, Williams, Wilson, Wright, Woodcock, Woods, Wyly It should be noted that these surnames were not exclusively those of Quaker families - especially, the more common Irish surnames. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:56 PM Subject: [IRELAND] Were your Irish Ancestors Quakers? > SNIPPET: Was your ancestor a Quaker? If so, you are fortunate in that there is very good documentation available for your genealogy research to include a collection of published Quaker family histories and a collection of 232 pedigrees covering the major Irish Quaker families! <snip>

    11/07/2005 01:29:49
    1. Description, Armagh (1888) - English Traveller, Richard LOVETT
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: Englishman Richard LOVETT's notes on his trip throughout Ireland in the Victorian era were published by the Religious Tract Society in 1888. On his travels, "keeping an open mind," in his own words, he came to greatly respect and admire the culture and the people of Ireland and often stated that if his peers would take the time to visit the Emerald Isle "they, too, might have a different view of the Ireland and its people." Some of his notes are as follows: "Belfast is a capital centre for trips to noted towns and districts of Ulster. As in the case of Liverpool, Glasgow and other great ports, the growth of Belfast has been both recent and rapid. While in Belfast all the varied industries that necessarily centre in a city of over 200,000 inhabitants are to be seen in full activity, the stranger will naturally devote his attention to the two chief - the linen manufacture and ship-building. Armagh, one of the oldest towns in Ireland, and the seat of the most ancient Irish archbisphoric, is only a few miles distant. The town occupies the slope of a hill which is very finely crowned by the handsome pile of the Cathedral. The Roman Catholic Cathedral is also magnificently placed on Banbrook Hill. The narrow streets with their ancient appearance harmonize with the great antiquity of the place. They are clean and neat, and the whole town wears an air of prosperity and extreme respectability. St. Patrick's first church is now represented by the Bank of Ireland; the Provincial Bank comes close on St. Columba's; St. Bride's shares its honours with a paddock; St. Peter and St. Paul afford stabling to a modern rus in urbe; and St. Mary's is lost in a dwelling-house. No city in Western Europe has been burnt or plundered more frequently. In very ancient days it was noted for Emania, the seat of Ulster sovereignty and of the Knights of the Red Branch, and later on for the D! amhliag Mor or Great Church, built by Patrick, the great school or university, and the royal cemetery; but except the first none of these have any traces. The present cathedral, in all probability, stands on the site of the stone building which St. Patrick founded, and was begun about 1268. It has undergone many vicissitudes, and has been restored within comparatively recently years. It is well worth careful study, and it stands upon a site that for fourteen centuries has been consecrated to Christian worship. The Archbishop of Armagh is Primate of Ireland, and such men as USSHER, HOADLEY, and ROBINSON have held the office. A main line of rail runs to Londonderry, passing some famous and some very pretty places. At Antrim, there is a noted Round Tower, very perfect and standing in a beautiful park. Antrim Castle, near to the town, is one of the many celebrated Irish residences."

    11/06/2005 05:38:41
    1. Eyewitness Accounts: 1700s/1800s
    2. Jean R.
    3. EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS: 1700s/1800s National Library of Ireland, Dublin: Manuscript Room - 1. Buchanan Papers. 2. Emigrant Letters: manuscripts 13,875, 15,784, 18,236, 18,437, and others. 3. Lalor Family Papers. 4. Letter of Rev. D. W. Cahill to Lord Palmerston, 1855, Pamphlet 719. 5. Letters from Missionaries in America. 6. Letters of Myles Walter Keogh. 7. Monteagle Papers. 8. O'Hara Papers. 9. William Smith O'Brien Papers Archives - 1. Distress in Ireland: Central Relief Committee of the Society of Friends (Quakers). 2. Hughes, the Right Rev. John, Bishop of New York, "A Lecture on the Antecedent Causes of the Irish Famine in 1847," delivered at the Broadway Tabernacle, March 20, 1847, New York, 1847. 3. John, Earl of Shrewsbury, "Thoughts on the Poor-Relief Bill for Ireland," Pamphlet, London, 1847. 4. MacDonagh, Oliver, "Irish Emigration During the Great Famine, 1845-52," Unpublished thesis. 5. Scrope, C. Poulett, "Reply to Archbishop of Dublin on the Poor Relief (Ireland) Bill," London, 1847. 6. Transactions of the Central Relief Committee of the Society of Friends during the Famine in Ireland in 1846 and 1847, with Appendices. 7. Transactions of the Royal Historical Society, 5th Series, Vol. V. Irish Folklore Department, University College, Dublin: 1. Dorian, Hugh, "Donegal 60 Year ago, A True Historical Narrative," Handwritten, unpublished manuscript, Londonderry, 1896. Other Printed Material: 1. Adair, A. Shafto, "The Winter of 1846-7 in Antrim," with remarks on outdoor relief and colonization, London, 1847. 2. Alcock, St. L., "Essay on a Poor Law Bill for Ireland," Dublin, 1847. 3. Amicus, Populi: "Emigration and Superabundant Population Considered," Dublin, 1848. 4. Belden, E. Porter, "Past, Present & Future, New York, 1849. 5. Bennett, William, "Six Weeks in Ireland," London, 1848. 6. Benwell, J., "An Englishman's Travels in America," London, 1853. 7. Berkeley, George, "The Querist," 2 vols., London, 1735-37. 8. Brown, William, "A Four Years' Residence in the United States & Canada," New York, 1849. 9. Brownson's Quarterly Review, "The Know-Nothings," October, 1854, pp. 447-87. 10. Burritt, Elihu, "A Journal of a Visit of Three Days to Skibbereen and its Neighborhood," London, 1847. 11. Butt, Isaac, "A Voice For Ireland. The Famine In the Land," Dublin 1847. 12. Carleton, William. "The Black Prophet," London and Belfast, 1847. 13. Carlyle, Thomas, "Reminiscences of My Irish Journey in 1849," London, 1850. 14. Carlyle, Thomas, "Past and Present," London, 1858. 15. Cavour, Camillo Bensodi: "Thoughts on Ireland," London, 1844. 16. Chambers, William, "Things As They Are in America," London and Edinburgh, 1854, Rep. ed. NY 1968. 17. Croker, Thomas Crofton, "Fairy Legends and Traditions of The South of Ireland," London, 1870. 18. Croker, Thomas Crofton, "The Keen of the South of Ireland," London, 1844. 19. Croker, Thomas Crofton, "Legends of the Lakes," 2 vols., London, 1829. 20. Dana, Charles A., "The United States Illustrated," New York, 1854. 21. De Beaumont, Gustave, "Ireland: Social, Political, and Religious," 2 vols., London, 1839. 22. Forbes, John, "Memorandums Made in Ireland in the Autumn of 1852," 2 vols., London, 1853. 23. Foster, Thomas Campbell, "Letters on the People of Ireland," London, 1847. 24. Francis, John W., "New York During the Last Half Century," New York, 1857. 25. Francis, John W., "Old New York," New York, 1866. 26. Godley, J. R., "Letters from America," Dublin, 1844. 27. Graham, W. H., "The Stranger's Guide Around New York & Its Vicinity," New York, 1853. 28. Greenleaf, Jonathan, " A History of the Churches...in the City of New York...to 1846," New York, 1846. 29. Griscom, John H., "The Sanitary Condition of the Laboring Populations of New York," New York, 1845. 30. Griscom, John H., "The Uses and Abuses of Air," New York, 1848. 31. Hall, Basil, "Travels In North America," 3 vols., Edinburgh, 1830. 32. Hancock, W. N., "The Tenant Rights of Ulster..." Dublin, 1845. 33. Henson, Geraldine, "Memories of The Irish Famine." Handwritten manuscript by a landlord's daughter, based on the reminiscences of her mother, Anna Selman Martin of Ross, Co. Galway, NLI, ms. 17,305. 34. Heywood, Robert, "A Journey To America in 1834," London, 1835. 35. Hill, Lord George," Facts from Gweedore, 5th ed. Dublin, 1887. 36. Inglis, Henry D., "Ireland in 1834," London, 1835. 37. The Irish-Immigrant Society of New York, "Advice and Guide Book Middle 1800s," New York, no date. 38. Jameson, Anna, "Winter Studies and Summer Rambles in Canada," Toronto, 1838. 39. Kennedy, J. Pitt, "Digest of evidence taken before HM's commissions of inquiry into the state of the law and practice in respect to the occupation of land in Ireland." Dublin, 1847. 40. King, Charles, "Progress of the City of New York During the Last Fifty Years," New York, 1852. 41. Kohl, J. G., "Ireland 1843," London, 1844. 42. Marryat, Frederick, "Diary in America," London, 1839. 43. Martineau, Harriet,"Letters from Ireland," London, 1852. 44. Martineau, Harriet, "Society in America," 3 vols, London, 1830. 45. McNeill, Hugh, "The famine, a/rod" (sermon, privately published), Liverpool, 1847. 46. Melville, Herman, "Redburn, His First Voyage," New York, 1849. 47. Mitchel, J., "The History of Ireland from the Treaty of Limerick to the Present Time, " Dublin, 1869. 48. Mooney, J., "Nine Years in America," New York, 1850. 49. Nagatus: "The Connection between Famine and Prestilence, and he Great Apostacy," Halliday Pamphlet, vol. 1990, Dublin, 1847. 50. Osbourne, S. Godolphin, "Gleanings in the West of Ireland," London, 1850. 51. Scrope, G. P., "Some Notes of a Tour in England, Scotland and Ireland," London, 1849. 52. Senior, Nassau, "Journals, Conversations and Essays Relating to Ireland," 2 vols., London, 1868. 53. Smith, William, "An Emigrant's Narrative, or a Voice From The Steerage," New York, 1850. 54. Thackeray, William Makepeace, "Irish Sketch Book," London, 1844. 55. Tocqueville, Alexis De, "Journeys in England and Ireland in 1835," London, 1835. 56. Trench, F. F., Letter dealing with famine. addressed to the Editor of "Saunder's News-Letter." Ireland, 1847. Pamphlets on the famine, MS 13397(4), NLI. 57. Trevelyan, G. E., "The Irish Crisis," London, 1848. 58. Tuke, James H., "A Visit to Connaught in the Autumn of 1847," London, 1848. 59. Valentine, David T.,"History of the City of New York," New York, 1853. 60. Weston, Richard, "A Visit to the United States & Canada," pub. New York (1800s). 61. Whyte, Robert, "The Ocean Plague, or, A Voyage to Quebec in an Irish Emigrant Vessel, Embracing a Quarantine at Grosse Isle in 1847, with notes Illustrative of the Ship Pestilence of that Fatal Year," Boston, 1848. Copy in Library of Congress. 62. Wilde, Lady, "Ancient Legends, Mystic Charms and Superstitions of Ireland," London, 1889. 63. Wilde, William R., " Irish Popular Superstitions," Dublin, 1853

    11/06/2005 03:29:32
    1. Were your Irish Ancestors Quakers?
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: Was your ancestor a Quaker? If so, you are fortunate in that there is very good documentation available for your genealogy research to include a collection of published Quaker family histories and a collection of 232 pedigrees covering the major Irish Quaker families! Society of Friends (Quakers) Monthly meetings were held in the following areas: Antrim, Ballyhagan, Carlow, Cootehill, Cork, Dublin, Edenderry, Grange, Lisburn, Limerick, Lurgan, Moate, Mountmellick, Richhill, Tipperary, Waterford, Wexford and Wickow. Registers for Antrim and Cootehill may not have survived. Quakers began to arrive in Ireland in the mid-17th century as Cromwellian settlers, and some authorities estimate that by 1690 their numbers had topped 5,000. The Society of Friends reached its financial and social peak in the 1840s, though their numbers had declined to a little over 3,000. They are best remembered for their relief work during the Great Famine in Ireland as well as their anti-slavery campaigns in the United States. During the Irish Famine Quakers collected monies to finance several carefully thought-out schemes, some to bring immediate help to the starving, others with an eye to the longer term. All aid was dispensed without denomination of the recipients. The Society of Friends is a body of Christians owing its origins to the teachings of George FOX, an English lay preacher. He began to preach the doctrine of "Christ within." From the time of their inception the Friends were persecuted. Because they rejected any organized church, they refused to pay tithes. They refused to take oaths, and they preached against war, even to resist attack. These factors brought them into conflict with the authorities. Certain modes of behavior also marked Quakers as being distinct. Great emphasis was placed on simplicity, especially in dress, manner and speech. Until late in the 19th century Friends retained certain forms of speech known as plain speech, which employed "thee" as opposed to the more formal "you." At present their world membership stands at about 200,000 distributed in about 30 countries. Quaker congregations met for worship on a weekly basis and all members in the locality were encouraged to attend. Apart from the meeting for worship, meetings for business were also held. Births, deaths and marriages were reported at monthly meetings and details of these events were recorded. The minutes of these meetings are held at the Dublin Friends Historical Library. It is not necessary to search these manuscripts for this kind of information because, in the 1860s, the details of births, deaths, and marriages were transcribed from the original records and made available in abstract form. These abstracts contain vital information going back to the 1670s and before. They, too, are held at the DFHL. In addition to the family histories and pedigrees mentioned above, there are some 3,000 letters connected to such well-known Irish Quaker families as CHANDLEE, GRUBB, LECKY, NEWSOM and SHACKLETON. There are also original letters of George FOX and William PENN, as well as 1,70! 0 documents on other subjects and a number of curios illustrating Quaker dress, occupations and interests. Some families with common "Irish surnames" were of the Quaker faith, but the majority were not. . . Check also with your local LDS (Mormon) Family History Centers to see what they have available on microfilm. . -- Excerpts, Cork's "Irish Roots" periodical

    11/05/2005 03:56:10
    1. !! Ballina Chronicle; Apr 10, 1850; Mayo Items
    2. Cathy Joynt Labath
    3. BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Mayo, Ireland Wednesday, April 10, 1850 IN BANKRUPTCY In the matter of Benjamin } TO BE SOLD BY Wilson, of Ballina, in } PUBLIC AUCTION the County of Mayo } before the Commissioners Shopkeeper, Dealer and } of Bankrupt in the Court Chapman, } of Bankruptcy, DUBLIN, a Bankrupt } on FRIDAY, the 19th ___________________ }day of APRIL, instant, at the hour of TWO o'clock in the afternoon., ALL THE ESTATE, RIGHT, TITLE, and INTEREST of the Bankrupt and his Assignee in and to All That And Those, THAT PLOT of GROUND, which is 45 feet in front, 59 feet in the rere, and 164 feet from front to rere, and is situate in VICTORIA PLACE, IN THE TOWN OF BALLINA, AND COUNTY OF MAYO, held by lease renewable for ever, subject to the yearly rent of $15 and a renewal fine of one pepper-corn on the fall of each life. On the above plot there were erected by the Bankrupt, at an expense of upwards of £1,300, two excellent DWELLING HOUSES and OFFICES, one of which is in the possession of a good tenant, and at the rere there is a large building, part of which is occupied as a Presbyterian place of Worship. A statement of Title is posted in the Court of Bankruptcy. For further particulars apply to MICHAEL MURPHY, Esq., Official Assignee, 10 Mountrath street, HUGH MOORE, Esq.; Trade Assignee, 57 Capel-street; or WILLIAM NEILSON and SON, Solicitors, 104 Abbey-street, Dublin. THE LATE MURDER NEAR KILLALA Terence Mulherin, the elder of the brothers charged with the murder of Jennings, lately committed near Killala, has been arrested under the following circumstances: - A woman from this neibhbourhood, to whom the Mulherins were known, received a letter in Liverpool, where she has been some time living, from an acquaintance, wherein was mentioned the murder, and that a reward of £50 was offered for such information as would lead to the arrest and conviction of the Mulherins. - The day after receiving this letter she happened to meet Terence Mulherin in one of the streets of Liverpool, and having engaged him for some time in conversation about her people in Ireland, gave him in charge to a policeman. He was then, upon the woman's information, transported to the Castlebar gaol, where he was identified by one of the Killala policemen, and now remains in custody for trial at the next assizes. SHEEP STEALING On the night of the 1st inst., three strolling beggars entered an out-house belonging to T. Kelly of Dooeaghny, about three miles from this town in the county of Sligo, and carried away a sheep which they killed in a waste house adjoining. The perpetrators of this outrage were two men and a woman, named Lavelle, from Newport and Achill. They were arrested on the following day (Tuesday) by Constable Phibbs and his party and brought before Thomas Jones, Esq., J.P., by whom they were committed, and on the next day sent to Sligo. The Quarter Sessions were then proceeding in that town, and the parties being brought before the Barrister on the following Friday were found guilty and sentenced - the two men to seven years transportation each, and the woman to six months imprisonment and hard labour. At the same sessions Michl. Kelly, who stole a sheep from Anthony Muldoon of Rathmel, near this town, was sentenced to 12 months imprisonment with hard labour. DARING RESCUE - On Friday last, Patrick Glynn, Esq., Sub-Sheriff, with six of the Westport constabulary, proceeded on official duty to Erriff, where, after an obstinate and dangerous resistance, he seized some sheep, and while proceeding with them to some particular destination, crowds of persons assembled in every direction of the locality, and immediately commenced to rescue. All remonstrances were disregarded and so determined were the rescuers that they appeared as if careless of life. Mr. Glynn perceiving this, felt impelled by humanity not to persevere, as, if the constabulary were ordered to use their arms, the consequence would have been a great sacrifice of human life. Great credit is due to this officer for his steadiness and forbearance under so trying an occasion. The offending party will, however, be brought to justice. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

    11/05/2005 03:53:56
    1. "The Forge" -- Derry-born Seamus HEANEY (contemp.)
    2. Jean R.
    3. THE FORGE All I know is a door into the dark. Outside, old axles and iron hoops rusting; Inside, the hammered anvil's short-pitched ring, The unpredictable fantail of sparks Or hiss when a new shoe toughens in water. The anvil must be somewhere in the centre, Horned as a unicorn, at one end square, Set there immoveable: an altar Where he expends himself in shape and music. Sometimes, leather-aproned, hairs in his nose, He leans out on the jamb, recalls a clatter Of hoofs where traffic is flashing in rows; Then grunts and goes in, with a slam and flick To beat real iron out, to work the bellows. -- Seamus HEANEY, 'The Forge,' from "Door Into the Dark" (1969)

    11/04/2005 07:03:42
    1. Convict Transport Records -- Patrick DORAN, East Morland Place, Dublin to Australia on "Hougoumont"
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: In 1988, at the time of the Bicentenary of white settlement in Australia, the Taoiseach of Ireland was Charles J. HAUGHEY, while the Prime Minister of Australia was Robert J. HAWKE. To mark the occasion, the Government and People of Ireland graciously presented a gift to the Government and People of Australia in the form of a series of microfilms entitled "Transportation Records: Ireland to Australia 1788 to 1868." These records are available at the National Archives, Bishop, Street, Dublin, the National Library of Canberra and at the State Library in each capital city in Australia, British Public Record Office, Dublin Castle records, genealogical library of Kiama, New South Wales, etc. (More information regarding same may be found on the Internet). Most of the documentation originated from departmental correspondence within the Chief Secretary's Office, particularly the classes concerned with supervision of the penal system and the exile of prisoners from the! ir homeland. The Chief Secretary was the chief executive of the British administration until 1922, being responsible to the Lord Lieutenant who represented the Crown in Ireland. From 1787, the First, Second and Third Fleets to Australia carried convicts from English gaols which included some Irish and Scots prisoners who had been sentenced in British courts. On September 26, 1791, the first vessel to carry convicts from Irish prisons, the "Queen," arrived at Port Jackson. While prisoners continued to be sent to Western Australia until 1868, the last ship to sail directly from Ireland was the "Phoebe Dunbar," which arrived on August 30, 1853. The final vessel from England to Western Australia, arriving on January 9, 1868, was the "Hougoumont" which carried 63 Irish Fenians convicted in Ireland but imprisoned in England. In addition to the respositories mentioned, the 1995, #4 issue of Cork's "Irish Roots" magazine went into great detail on these transportation records as well as data on one of the convicts relating to #596, form K (and a photo). While it does not give the year (1868?) and exact destination, some detective work may give you that information. Patrick DORAN -- Age 25, can read and write, religion Roman Catholic, single, trade or calling is "gardiner," born in Donneybrook Rd, Dublin, where resident, East Morland Place, Dublin. Description: Brown hair, hazel eyes, regular mouth, fresh complexion, oval visage, stout make and height 5 ft. 6 in. Dates and sentence are not given, but he did sail on the ship "Houghoumont." (In the picture he has a full head of wavy hair, full beard, and he is wearing a shirt and tie and a coat that looks a little too small for him).

    11/04/2005 04:15:39
    1. "Through A Glass Brightly" - Philip CASEY (contemp.) - London>Wexford
    2. Jean R.
    3. THROUGH A GLASS BRIGHTLY Feet crunching in the gravel, the first few steps would be past yew trees and rows of raspberry bushes on one side, and rhododendrons, wild roses, lilacs and God knows what flower his mother had dreamt up, on the other. It was her lasting passion. The day would be fine, probably a Sunday in late June before the lane was tarmacadamed. Then past the entrance (more flowers) and onto the road, turning right. The grove would be to the left - it's gone now, his father reclaimed it - the young trees (were they pines?) outrageously perfuming the breeze, and the cows, taking refuge from the heat, would stupidly stare at him. There would be wild strawberries under the milkstand, and if he looked up, There were more lilacs under the telegraph wires. Below the grove was the rushy field (even the rushes are gone) and on the other side of the road, the fallow field where he and his brothers would play hurling on summer evenings, sometimes in the rain - like the fanatics they would never be again. The lighter shade of grass marked their pitch, three jackets and a shirt made the goalposts and hacked branches of trees the hurls. The ball was usually for real. In the distance beyond that, a sleeping Annagh Hill, the colour of raspberry juice, and Croghan Kinsella, mountain of the legendary gold. A few yards more and he'd be flanked by briars, the long stalks green and strong, invading the road. Then to the bridge, once swept away by a flood which carried a man who survived to wear a bump like a boulder on his forehead. The river, calm but strong (now it's calm and feeble, widened to save crops from floodwaters) would show off trout doing dazzling turns on fins, or high jumps for insects under the cluster of tall, benign oaks. Then he'd end his voyage, pushing in the gate to the two-roomed cottage where the old couple lived in a shade of former glory, wading his way through guinea hens, and while the dog barked and bared his teeth, they would set tea and cakes, and he would be a prince, listening to the affairs of the realm. -- Philip CASEY was born to Irish parents in London in 1950 and grew up in Co. Wexford, now resides in Dublin

    11/04/2005 03:34:39
    1. !! Ballina Chronicle; Apr 10, 1850; Misc News
    2. Cathy Joynt Labath
    3. BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Mayo, Ireland Wednesday, April 10, 1850 MISCELLANEOUS - The number of licensed brewers in Ireland is 96. - Lord Monteagle is appointed Fellow of London University. - George Bailey, parish clerk of Spalding Church, hung himself in the vestry-room on Thursday. - The engines of the Caldeonian railway company are seized for debt, and the credit for coke is shut up. - One bank has lost £76,000 by the late mercantile failure in Cork. - Five officers of Portsmouth garrison are under arrest for maltreating a brother officer. - There are 64 clerks to be reduced in the government office in Dublin. - The Midland Great Western railway line from Dublin to Galway, will not cost 10,000l. a mile. - The Hon. James Hewett, declares that his wife did not die a Roman Catholic, nor was she attended by a priest.-- Freeman. - Sir Wm. Somerville has brought in a bill for the better distribution, support, and management of medical charities in Ireland. - At the Cork city registry sessions, closed on Friday, the Liberals and Conservatives counted 200 each. - A farmer named John Chambers of Aylroe, committed suicide on Wednesday by drowning himself in a trench behind his house. - Dr. Bell, late of York-street, Dublin, cut his throat at Sandy's-well Park Asylum, Cheltenham on Sunday. - Gunner J. Telford, Royal Artillery, was crushed to death at Woolwich on Saturday, by a load of coals which fell on him in carriage to the arsenal. - Lieut. D'Aguilar, R.N., is dismissed the Firebrand steamer, for assaulting the second master, Mr. Tapril, at Malta. - The small pox, which is raging in Dublin, was imported by a Russian vessel, which lay at the North Wall some time. - Mr. Kirke, of Dublin, is completing a magnificent statue of the late Master of the Rolls, Sir Michael O'Loghlin, Bart, to be placed at the Ennis court house. - The brig Grace of Newcastle, Thompson, with corn from Alexandria to Cork, was totally wrecked at Ardmore, on Saturday night, when nine out of eleven on board perished. - A Connemara man was robbed at the new Chapel, Galway, on Good Friday, during the Passion sermon, preached by the Rev. Mr. Daly, of 2l.10s., and on the following evening a silver candlestick was stolen from the sanctuary. - The assault case at the suit of the Rev. David Mylotte, Roman Catholic Priest, against the Rev. John O'Callagan, at Mam petty sessions, and sent for trail to the quarter sessions, Galway, on the 8th April, is removed by certiorari to the Queen's Bench. Mr. Keogh, M.P., is retained as counsel for the plaintiff. - At Clifden petty sessions an important case came before the bench. The Victoria, of Clifden, Michael Lyden, owner, was engaged by Mr. Levingston, of Westport, to convey meal from thence to Clifden. The crew sold a quantity of the meal, and placed salt in its stead, to make up the weight! For this fraudulent act, the magistrates sentenced the parties to a fine of £5 each, or imprisonment for two months. - CRUEL DECEPTION - James Fullerton, a soldier of the 18th Regt., was convicted at Armagh assizes, of having procured a person, named Barry, to act as clergyman, and of having had a false ceremony performed, whereby he deceived a girl named Brown, into a belief he had married her. He obtained possession of her little sayings; and she is now pregnant. She has resided with her mother since the supposed marriage. The girl is a Protestant and the soldier a Roman Catholic. He was sentenced to six months imprisonment. - A gang of sheep and cattle stealers, nine in number, were arrested on Wednesday night last, by the police of Cragbrien, and Ballynacally, under command of Constable Odlum. This nest of freebooters had done incalculable injury in that neighbourhood in the winter and spring. The information which led to their arrest, was received by Constable Odlum, to whose zeal and discernment society is indebted for the breaking up of this nocturnal band of depredation. One of the party named Nihill was absent when the police called at his residence, but the Constable ordered some of the men to lie in ambush, and behold! Nihill returns bearing a side of beef on his back, having the hide attached to it, which was identified by the owner.-- Limerick Chronicle. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

    11/03/2005 11:36:01