Hi, I have just subscribed to this List and would really appreciate some help in finding the ancestors of Christopher ROSS who was born in Co. Down in 1835. He enlisted as a boy soldier in the 48th (Northamptonshire) Regiment at Dublin on 9 June 1849 aged 14 yrs 3 mths. In the 1851 Census he is serving at Weedon Barracks Northamptonshire. He embarked for India, November 1858, served at the Crimea and was discharged in India, 12 June 1863. It is likely he stayed in India as the next three generations were all born there. Any help you can give will be most welcome. Look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Ruth

Hello Beryl, again, I believe I have now remembered the written work. It was a booklet giving thumbnail sketches of the first people to settle in aparticular area. Pengelly. One person, or family was chosen amongst the settlers in this area, and a small description of their history was given. When the lady who wrote it gave a brief summary of families mentioned in the booklet, I spotted a few names I recognized, and wrote back. This was in the Hereford Family History Journal. The people mentioned known to me, were Helen Williams, Jesse Price Williams, I think. Anyway, Helen Williams was a neice of my great grandmother,and therefore a cousin of my grandmother. Jesse Williams, I already knew by name, because I had been corresponding with various family members for a few years by then. Anyway, at least I have remembered the name Pengelly. Oh! heck, would that be Pingelly. I would pronouce the two words differently anyway, but the similarity of the spellings would throw me off until I remembered properly. Good to hear from you, best regards, Maureen Jenkins

Hello, There are Shaws who married into our Stewart lines of County Down. Can find more information at Ancestry.com. Shirley Researching: Weaver, Stewart, Cleland, Finley, Howe, Herron, Craig, Davidson and many others of Killyleagh, Co. Down

When we tried, our boat got almost swamped after we passed the end of Valencia Island. Martin

Hello List, By some chance is there anyone researching the descendants of Francis Gough SHAW and Catherine FLYNN of Derryboy, Down, Ireland? Two possible children: Hugh SHAW, b. 1868 James SHAW, b. abt 1870 / 1873. believed to have first sailed to New Zeaand and then to Australia about 1890. Beryl in Vic. Australia

SNIPPET: At Monasterboice, ornate Celtic crosses and round tower are some of the remains of a monastery founded by St. Buithe in the 5th century. This ruined monastery is visit-worthy - the ornately carved high crosses are some of the best in Ireland. In the Dark Ages, these crosses, illustrated from top to bottom with Bible stories, gave monks a teaching tool as they preached to the illiterate masses. Today, Monasterboice, basically an old graveyard, is always open and free. The 18-foot tall Cross of Murdock (Muiredach's cross, A. D. 923) was named after an abbot. The carved sandstone's center panel shows the Last Judgment, with Christ under a dove symbolizing the Holy Spirit. Those going to heaven are on Christ's right, and the damned are being ushered away by devils on the left. Other scenes depict the Magi, Moses, scenes from the life of David, Adam, Eve, and Cain slaying Abel. Richard LOVETT, an English traveller to Ireland in 1888, wrote - "The graveyard is still in use, and within the more ancient church is a circular granite stone, probably the shaft of an ancient font. Whenever a funeral takes place, the body is carried around the enclosure and then placed for a few minutes upon this stone." Quoting now from somewhat earlier literature -- "In the 'Dublin Penny Journal' is a description of this scene, interesting for its own sake, and also because it came from the pen of Dr. PETRIE, with which we close our sketch of Monasterboice -- 'In its present deserted and ruined state it is a scene of the deepest and most solemn interest; and the mind must indeed be dull and earthly in which it fails to awaken feelings of touching and permanent interest. Silence and solitude the most profound are impressed on all its time-worn features. We are among the dead only, and we are forced, as it were, to converse with men of other days. In all our frequent visi! ts to these ruins we never saw a living human being among them but once. It was during a terrific thunderstorm, which obliged us to seek shelter behind one of the stone crosses for an hour. The rain poured down in impetuous torrents, and the clouds were so black as to give day the appearance of night. It was at such an awful hour that a woman of middle age, finely formed, and of noble countenance, entered the cemetery, and regardless of the storm raging around, flung herself down upon a grave, and commenced singing an Irish lamentation in tones of heart-rending melancholy and surpassing beauty. This she carried on as long as we remained; and her voice, coming on the ear between the thunder peals, had an effect singularly wild and unearthly; it would be fruitless to attempt a description of it. The reader, if he knows what an Irishwoman's song of sorrow is, must imagine the effect it would have at such a moment among those lightening-shattered ruins, and chanted by such a liv! ing vocal monument of human woe and desolation. We subsequently learned, on inquiry, that this poor creature's history was a sad one; she was slightly crazed, in consequence of the death of her only son, who had been drowned; and her mania lay in a persuasion, which nothing could remove, that he was not lost, but would yet return to bless her, and close her long-weeping eyes in peace.'"

Jean you were asking about St. Ciaran? Saint Ciaran Known as Ciaran of Clonmacnoise AKA; Ceran, Kieran, Kyran,Queranus Latin Queranus, also called Kieran The Younger .One of the most illustrious founders of monasticism in Ireland. Feast Day 9 September Is known as the 'first-born' of the Irish saints Born in Connaught circa 516 Some say he was of royal blood more likely he was the son of a carpenter -Mac an Tsair, or "Son of the Carpenter". He is said to have had an affinity with animals. One legend tells that he prayed for a small bird which had been stolen from it's nest by a hawk. The hawk laid the injured bird at Ciarans feet and the small bird recovered. Another tells of a tame fox who carried Ciarans work in a satchel , unfortunately the fox decided to eat the contents of the satchel this being th saints written work ( that's foxes for you - always eating stuff!) Ciaran is said to have studied at Rome and Tours, becoming a bishop - he chose to become a hermit. It was said that wild boar tore down branches to provide wood for his shelter! http://www.lawrencetown.com/clonmac.htm has a bit of info on the history of Clonmacnoise Anyone who is interested in reading the old Irish Annals might want to have a look at http://www.ucc.ie/celt/transpage.html CELT ( Corpus of Electronic Texts) , Documents of Ireland -which has the Annals of Ulster,Annals of Connacht and many more Cheers Gill

Hello Beryl, I did not realise there was an Irish connection until I read your email. But, I have in my family, a James Williams, who was widowed when my great grandmother's sister Ann Williams, nee Smith died. This was in Wales and Herefordshire. i.e. Radnorshire, then James Williams moved to Herefordshire where he must have met and married a 'widow Shaw'. She probably had children of her own with the surname Shaw, but she and James Williams also had a child called Arthur in their own marriage. From family lore, James Williams and the ex Mrs. Shaw left Herefordshire, well, I think it was Hay on Wye actually, which is on the border with Radnorshire and Herefordshire. They are supposed to have left these shores for Australia around 1900. Arthur by now, was a grown lad, and I do have a not very good copy of a photograph of the family group taken about the time they set sail. I would have thought that Arthur might well have been about 10 years old at the time. Sailing with the family was another relative of mine, one Jesse Williams, a male. And he was born in Breconshire. There is actually an article written about some of these first settlers who arrived in Australia. I will have to find my notes, but I do know the name of the settlement began with a P. Sorry for that, but memory fades sometimes until refreshed. All the best, Maureen Jenkins Rhondda Valley, South Wales.

Looking for the above surnames; came from Co Mayo and settled in the Kingston Ontario area. Moved in Ohio and Missouri after that. Kay Toulster Weber St. Louis Missouri

Jean, We made the trip several years since, choices are Catmaran type car ferry which takes about 3 hours and leaves from landing stage or leisurely overnight ferry leaves around 9:00a and arrives 0:600a on this one even though we booked in advance from USA our cabins had been given to a couple of truck drivers. Getting off the ferry @ 06:00a is no fun for Ireland is deadsville @ that time and does not stir until a decent hour* and you cannot buy breakfast or check into a B&B etc., pete Fares are posted on web look for Dublin - Liverpool ferry crossings, you'll find them all. *10.00a

Bob, you might try searching @ your Aunts original home town in Ireland, rationale? one of my Aunts came to USA around same early 1900's time, however being without parents, siblings and friends for comfort, she went back & forth three times over a period of 7 years, finally on landing in M anhatten for third time she stayed in the good old USA. pete

Hi List Found on the 2% census for 1851 in Infantry Barracks Glasgow Lanarkshire William J Delany married age 27 armourer sergeant b Dundalk Louth Gilly

Thanks Beth, Pat, et. all. I really appreciate all your advice, expertise. If all goes as intended, I will write about my adventures when I get back home next summer. No doubt I will have a wonderful vacation no matter where I go and what I see. Jean xx -- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Walsh" <bw.walsh5@sbcglobal.net> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 4:48 PM Subject: [IRELAND] Ireland and islands > Jean, > Sorry - I forgot - Valentia Island is also accessible by bridge - off the coast of Co. Kerry. > Dursey Island off the coast of Cork is accessible by cable car! > > Beth

Jean, Sorry - I forgot - Valentia Island is also accessible by bridge - off the coast of Co. Kerry. Dursey Island off the coast of Cork is accessible by cable car! Beth

Jean, There are 3 islands in the Aran Island group, accessible by ferry from Doolin in Clare, Galway City and Rossaveal in Connemara. The one from Rossaveal is the shortest, about 35 minutes. Or, one can fly Aer Aerann to the islands in about 10 minutes, but they are small planes. On the main island in Kilronan there is a show (singing, dancing, etc) called Ragus - I highly recommend - not as 'touristy' as some of the other shows that can be seen around Ireland. I've never been to the islands, but saw this troupe when they visited Milwaukee for Irish Fest last year. The only island I can think of accessible via a bridge is Achill Island off the coast of Co. Mayo. There are lots of islands surrounding Ireland, both inhabited and uninhabited. Valencia, Tory, Rathlin, Clare Island, Garinish, Whiddy, the Blaskets, the Skellig Islands, the Saltee Islands are just a few of the islands that I can think of at the moment. Oh now I want to go too!!!! Every time I visit I say I'm going to go to at least one island and have yet to do so. Go to the Irish Tourist Board website and look up a travel agent with the Shamrock Club distinction. They have been to Ireland and have passed an extensive exam on Ireland and tourism. Or search on Google and you'll come up with websites for the various island groups also. Hope this helps somewhat. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:58 PM Subject: [IRELAND] Galway to Aran Islands - Query > QUERY: Has anyone had experience with the round-trip ferries or Aer Arann flights to Aran Island? Overnight accommodations on the island? Planning trip to Ireland summer 2006 and hope to visit this (or another) island with ambience, heard travellers love the uniqueness of the islands, but worry about rough seas/sea-sickness getting there and back. Apparently there are also islands connected to the mainland with land bridges? Thank you for any input. Jean > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ > >

THANKS JEAN Regards Mary

I was there in 1992 and things may have changed since then. I took the ferry from Galway and had no motion problems. As I recall, it was a speedy trip.I know of no bridges connecting the isles-boats were the only way at that time. there are accommodations on the islands for overnight stays but should be arrange in advance. at some times of the year, there are boat trips from points closer than Galway. I'd check withthe Galway tourist bureau for more details. good luck, djm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <jeanrice@cet.com> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: Galway to Aran Islands - Query > QUERY: Has anyone had experience with the round-trip ferries or Aer Arann > flights to Aran Island? Overnight accommodations on the island? Planning > trip to Ireland summer 2006 and hope to visit this (or another) island > with ambience, heard travellers love the uniqueness of the islands, but > worry about rough seas/sea-sickness getting there and back. Apparently > there are also islands connected to the mainland with land bridges? Thank > you for any input. Jean >

Hello. I have a Kathleen Langley, born in Galway, Ireland on March 8, 1898. She was living in New York since she arrived in the states in 1922, she was living with her sister Mary Langley, residing at 233East 81s st New york, New York When she died in May of 1971 she was in Europe. My question is, would Social Security know where in Europe she died, and if she was living there at the time of her death? One more stupid question, Where would I write to see if there was an Obit for her? Thank you. Best wishes. Bob

This is all assumption but, if she was collecting SSI checks, someone in the family or the funeral home would have informed the Social Security of her passing to stop the checks. Now if she was living in Europe/Ireland instead of just touring, her checks would have been going to her residence there. I know family in Ireland who had checks sent to them there. However, once the direct deposits started, they were sent to their account at Bank of Ireland. Again, if she was just vacationing, the obits would be in local paper in USA. Or, the local paper in Europe/Ireland where she resided at the time of her death, may have an article. You would contact them. Mary Ellen Chambers Lakewood, OH RTENNIHAN@aol.com wrote: Hello. I have a Kathleen Langley, born in Galway, Ireland on March 8, 1898. She was living in New York since she arrived in the states in 1922, she was living with her sister Mary Langley, residing at 233East 81s st New york, New York When she died in May of 1971 she was in Europe. My question is, would Social Security know where in Europe she died, and if she was living there at the time of her death? One more stupid question, Where would I write to see if there was an Obit for her? Thank you. Best wishes. Bob ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/

Thanks Pat. I have extensively studied and written about the Aran Islands, but to visit is only a fading dream. There is a section of the Galway IGP website that is dedicated to the Aran Islands. Find lots of photos and history on that website. Do you know that the Normans attacked the Aran Islands, or that the legs of their war horses wer broken by stones planted at angles in the ground, or that part of ancient fortifications have with time fallen hundreds of feet into the sea, or that in ancient times the Aran Islands were part of the Galway mainland? Have a great week end all. Donal O'Còllàùgh O'Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Connors" <nymets11@pacbell.net> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: [IRELAND] Re: Galway to Aran Islands >I have taken the round trip boat from both Doolin in Co. Clare and from >Rossaveel in County Galway. I believe there is also one that leaves from >Galway town. The boats leaving Doolin can be a bit rough near the Doolin >dock but then settle down. They tend to be smaller and older than the >Rossaveel boats. The rocking didn't bother me but some did get seasick on >the boat going to the Island that I took in August. > > I have only gone to the larger island, Inishmore and I do believe they > have b&bs there for staying overnight. I think if you check online you > can find out more. > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup > volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ >