SNIPPET: Richard LOVETT, a visitor to Ireland, traveled across the length and breadth of Ireland, keeping a careful journal that was first published in 1888 by the Religious Tract Society. His notes reveal his captivation with the breathtaking Irish countryside, its people and their way of life, the architecture, beautifully-illuminated books and marvelous artifacts. Of the Donegal peasantry, he said, "They are a fine sturdy race, well-made and seemingly well-fed. There are not the evident signs of mental quickness so readily seen in some districts of Ireland, and the hints that life is a hard struggle with poverty are abundant, but they are self-reliant and free from all tendency to cringe. They are not forward to make advances, but they respond readily to the kindly look or the civil word. Until recently, perhaps more than in many parts, they were strongly swayed by their landlords, and on this account possibly the Home Rule feeling runs very strongly among them. But they do not obtrude this side of their life upon the passing stranger. There was nothing of the wild pursuit of tourists by child-beggars, and grown-up beggars, and nothing of the fierce scowl at all supposed well-to-do people, which I have been told we should find in this land ripe for revolution. And though they were as poor as poor could be - a poverty which our English poor could hardly realize - they all looked respectable; a word which implies more than at first appears, since a man who is worthy of respect must first respect himself. They would have been a problem to many English who pass rash and harsh judgments upon Ireland. Nothing strikes one more in Donegal, or indeed, throughout Ireland, than the exceedingly wholesomeness of the children. Ragged they may be, thin, and half-starved, but they are seldom either crippled or diseased. They can run like hares, and spring like wild-cats; they look up at you fearlessly with their big, bright, Irish eyes, and grin at you with their dazzling teeth, till you laugh in spite of yourself, and they laugh back again, as if, in spite of all this misery, life were a capital joke."

Here is my brick wall: John CONROY, b. bef. 1800, Ireland m. Catherine MALONE (Kate MALOON), b. abt 1790, Ireland Children: Thomas, b. 1816, Ireland, m. 1847 (Mary Schutt), d. 1901 Highland, Iowa Co, WI Eliza, b. abt 1833, Ireland, Mary, b. abt 1834, Ireland, m. 1853 (Anderson Wood), d. 1904 Hull, Sioux Co, IA I have no idea where they are from in Ireland . I believe the mother (Catherine) came to USA around 1850 but I find no trace of the father (John) in USA so he must have died prior to 1850. Any and all suggestions appreciated. Ellen

Irish Catholic Chronicle And People's News of the Week Dublin, Ireland Saturday, 30 November 1867 WILLIAM PHILIP ALLEN Subjoined is a brief sketch of the life of this unfortunate young man previously to his departure for England. The circumstances of his untimely fate, will, we presume, render the few facts here submitted interesting to the reader. W.P. Allen was born in April, 1848, in a well-known village near the town of Tipperary, and was about three years old when his parents removed to Bandon, in this county, where he was brought up in the Protestant faith, which his father professed, while his mother was a good Catholic. At Bandon he was a constant attendant at the training school conducted under the auspices of the Hon. Mr. Bernard, for the education of young men designed to fill the office of district parochial teachers, at the same time, however, attending the morning and evening schools conducted in the same town by Catholic masters, under whom he learned the branches of algebra and drawing, being remarkably proficient in the latter acquirements. While at school young Allen made himself conspicuous by his intelligence and application - these qualities attracting the notice of many persons of station. Allen was from his childhood of thoughtful and studious habits, very imaginative, exceedingly gentle in his disposition and a great favourite with his companions, to whom his pleasing manners endeared him. On the occasion of the visit of some Catholic missionaries to Bandon, Allen frequented the sessions and religious exercises which marked the mission and his natural acuteness, aided by the teaching of his pious mother, convincing him of the error of the creed in which he had been hitherto reared, he became a convert to the true religion and was received by the Rev. P.P. of Bandon into the bosom of the church. This was about four years ago, and since his reception Allen has been a strict and exemplary Catholic. His only sister, now married, and living in this city, influenced by the arguments of her brother, followed his happy example and became also a Catholic, his four brothers, among them a brother Joe, for whom the poor fellow entertained a particular affection, being still Protestants. Allen was, while yet a youth, bound apprentice to Mr. Preston, a respectable master carpenter and timber merchant in Bandon, but from circumstances of a painful nature, which it is charity now to refrain form publishing, but in which the young convert's faith was at stake, he felt himself compelled to leave his master before the expiration of his time, and coming well recommended to this city, was employed by Mr. Barry M'Mullen, with whom he remained for six months, when he once more returned to Bandon, whence he proceeded to Manchester, on the invitation of some near relatives of his residing in that city. The following affecting letter, which has been entrusted to us for publication, was entrusted by Allen to his aunt in Manchester, with directions to forward it to his sister in this city: Manchester, Nov 18, '67 DEAR SISTER, BROTHER-IN-LAW, AND BROTHERS - I am sure you will regret to be hearing out of a prison dungeon from me; but it cannot be helped. There are a great many changes in the world, and we must all put up with our share. Next Saturday is the day of my execution; also three others. I will be gone only a few days before the longest liver of you all; it is nothing , dear sister, to look into it. I hope you do not forget praying for me, and for those that are in with me. It is hard, dear sister, brother-in-law and brothers, to be suffering for a charge a person is not guilty of. I am quite reconciled to the will of God, whatever my fate may be. I received Holy Communion this morning, thank God, and am in very good spirits. There is nothing in the world that a person should be sorry for leaving it. Tell my brothers to mind their duty to God and always pray for me and all that are in with me. I am very sorry, dear sister, I had not the pleasure of seeing James before leaving this world and also your daughter. I think I have a slight knowledge of James, if I do not make a mistake. I hope if I do not see him here, I will see him and you all, please God, in heaven. Remember my words, dear friends - there is no use in grieving at all. It does not make the thing any better, and injures your own health, although I am quite sure there will be many thousands that never saw me or any of the other prisoners in their lives, that will regret our deaths; and many a tear will flow from parties with whom I never was in my life. I am about to leave the world and I do not think I have enemies in it, except those that swore my life away for blood money. I forgive them from the bottom of my heart, and may God receive them. Farewell sister, brothers, and brother-in-law, niece also. It has crossed my mind not to forget Miss Clancy, and my grandmother, tell them to pray for us also. No more at present from your affectionate and ever loving brother. W.P. ALLEN P.S. - Remember me to father and mother and aunt. Send this to my sister in Cork as soon as you receive it. Keep up your hearth and never forget praying for me. Remember me to all friends. I send you 1,000 kisses each and 2,000 to my brother Joe. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

January 13, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette FIVE POUNDS REWARD. RUN away from New castle, a Servant man, named John Adair, about five Feet ten Inches high, born in Ireland, and came over with Capt. Osborn this last Fall: Had on when he went away, a grey Frize Surtoot Coat, with a long Tail, yellow carved Buttons, and double frogged Button Holes, blue Jacket, old Leather Breeches, white Thread Stockings, and old Shoes, with black rusty Steel Buckles; and took with him three Shirts, two were white, the other brown, and a Pair of Breeches made Trowsers. He is likely, of a fresh colour, fair faced, and fair long Hair, tied behind, and is very remarkable for a great Deal of short curled Hair under the other. Whoever takes up said Servant, and secures him in any Goal, so as his Master may have him again, shall the above Reward, paid by me JAMES McCONNELL. February 10, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette Christiana Hundred, New Castle County, Feb. 1, 1763. FIVE POUNDS REWARD. MADE his Escape from John Garretson, on the 27th of last Month, a certain JOSEPH WOODS, about Twenty two Years of Age, about five Feet seven Inches high, Pockmarked about his Nose, a slender Man, thin Visage, grey Eyes, and brown Hair: Had on, when he went off, a brownish Thickset Coat and Vest, Leather Breeches, Yarn Stockings, thick heavy Shoes, is a great Talker, has been in the Country from Ireland a Year the last Fall, and worked with the said John Garretson the last Winter, and the last Summer followed Ditching between Philadelphia and Schuylkill, and is supposed to be gone that Way again. Any Person or Persons apprehending the said Joseph Woods, and bringing him to the Subscribers, in Christiana Hundred, New Castle County, or to the County Goal, so that he may be brought to Justice, shall have the above Reward, and reasonable Charges, paid by JOHN GARRETSON, of ZACHARIAH DERECKSON. February 3, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette RUN away, on the 23d of last Month, from his Bail, a man named Thomas Welch, born in Ireland, upwards of Thirty Years of Age, about 5 Feet 6 Inches high, well set, has short light coloured Hair: Had on a grey napt Coat and Jacket, and yellowish Thickset Breeches. His Wife, named Elizabeth, went with him; she is of Middle Size, and each carried some Clothes with them. Whoever takes up said Thomas Welch, and secures him, so that his Bondsman may have him again, shall have Thirty Shillings Reward, and reasonable Charges, paid by JONATHAN CARLILE, Living in Middle Town, Bucks County, near the Four Lane Ends. February 3, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette TWO PISTOLES Reward. LAST Night run away from the Subscriber, Thomas Anderson, of Mountjoy Township, an Indented Servant Man, named Thomas Anderson, about six Feet high, speaks fast, and is liable to get drunk, a very good Blacksmith by Trade: Had on, when he went away, a brown cut Wig, a small three cocked Hat, green Sailor Jacket, with red Flannel under Jacket, which is old, and mended before, with a Piece of new red Flannel, is lined with white Flannel, and has flat white Metal Buttons; new Buckskin Breeches, purple coloured Yarn Stockings, and turned Pumps, with flat square white Metal Buckles. He came from the North of Ireland. Whoever takes up and secures said Servant, so that his Master may have him again, shall have the above Reward, paid by me January 19, 1763. THOMAS ANDERSON, February 24, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette February 22, 1763. RUN away from the Subscriber, living in Drummore Township, Lancaster County, on the 17th of this Instant, at Night, a Servant Man, named John Moore, born in Ireland, 30 Years of Age, 5 Feet 8 Inches high, dark Complexion, straight brown Hair, has a Scar to be seen in some Part of his Face, is an active well looking Fellow, says he can speak both French and Indian, and has travelled selling of Goods on several Parts of North America; he has sometimes gone by the Name of Wilson, and about three Months ago stole a Mare in Kennet, and sold her in Wilmington: Had on when he went away, an old Castor Hat, an old Snuff coloured Coat, blue Jacket, old Buckskin Breeches, grey Stockings, and chanelled Pumps; and has stolen a lightish coloured Great coat, 3 Shirts, one fine Sheet, and a black Wig. It is supposed he will cut off his Hair, and wear the Wig. Whoever takes up and secures said Servant, so as his Master may have him again, shall have Forty Shillings Reward, and reasonable Charges, paid by me ANDREW BOYD. May 12, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette THREE POUNDS Reward. RUN away from the Subscriber, living between the Branches of Elk, on the First Instant, a Servant Man, named Nathaniel McDowell, about 30 Years of Age, born in the North of Ireland, by Trade a Spinning wheel maker, about five Feet eight Inches high, wears his own black Hair, round Face, and rough Features: Had on when he went away, a blue under jacket, light coloured outside Jacket, with Sleeves and Cuffs, new Cloth Breeches, Thread Stockings, good Shoes, and Check Shirt;, is remarkably fond of Smoaking Tobacco, and drinking Spirits. As it is known an Intimacy has subsisted between him and a neighbouring Woman, the Wife of Alexander Logan, who left her Husband about the same Time, and too her Child with her, a promising Boy, six Years old, with white Hair, it is thought they are gone together, and that they will go to Philadelphia. Whoever takes up the said Servant, and secures him in any Goal, so as his Master may have him again, shall have the above Reward, and reasonable Charges, paid by JOHN STRAWBRIDGE. N.B. All Masters of Vessels are forbid to carry him off. May 5, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette RUN away, on the 13th of April, from the Subscriber, a Servant Woman, named Ann Mackey, born in Ireland, about 30 Years o f Age, thin faced, black Hair, short and well set, a little round shouldered, much addicted to smoaking Tobacco, and telling Lies. Whoever takes up said Servant, and brings her to her Master, shall have SIXPENCE Reward, paid by ALEXANDER FRASER. July 7, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette RUN away from the Subscriber, living in Lancaster, on the 26th of June, a Native Irish Servant Woman, named Katey Norton, who came from the County of Wicklow, in Ireland, last Fall, she is about 25 or 26 Years of Age, of a dark Complexion, has black Hair, talks in the Irish Dialect, rocks in her Walk, and is pretty sharp in talking: Had on, and took with her, a black and white Calicoe Bed gown, a black calimancoe Skirt, an old Skirt, a striped Lincey Petticoat, red, blue and white, and an homespun Cotton tight bodied Wrapper, with fine blue and white small Stripes. She has likewise stolen a fine Cotton chintz Gown, of a genteel Figure, with red, green, blue and yellow Flowers; a white Gown, two fine Shirts, with Ribbons at the Sleeves, one white Apron, two Check Ditto, one Silk Gauze Cap, with broad Lace, which she wears far back on her Head; and has a black Peeling Bonnet, with Pasteboard and Gimp round it, two black Handkerchiefs, one Linnen Ditto, white homespun Thread Stockings, new Shoes, with Brass square Buckles set with Stones. She talks of Friends she has at Chester, New York and Baltimore; she is a cunning Hussey, and no Doubt will pass a While for an honest Woman, as she has good Cloaths with her, and can behave herself. Whoever takes up said Woman, and brings her to the Subscriber, in Lancaster, shall have Three Pounds Reward, and reasonable Charges, paid by me ROBERT FULTON. August 11, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette RUN away from the Subscriber, living in Salisbury Township, Lancaster County, An Irish Servant Lad, named High McBride, born in the North of Ireland: Had on when he went away, A blue double breasted Coat, with white Buttons, old blue Plush Breeches, old Felt hat, Tow Shirt and Trowsers, and one fine Ditto Shirt, no Shoes nor Stockings. He is of a fair complexion, down looking, about 18 Years of Age, about 5 Feet 2 or 3 Inches high, and is very clumsy Legged. it is supposed he is gone towards New Castle or Carlisle along with two others. Whoever secures said McBride in any of His Majesty Goals, so as his Master may have him again, shall receive Four Dollars Reward, and reasonable Charges, paid by me James Moore, Blacksmith, living in the above mentioned Place. August 18, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette RUN away, on the 9th of August, a certain James McKnight, born in the North of Ireland, about 30 Years of Age, about 5 Feet 6 Inches high, by Trade a Shoemaker, but pretends to understand Ditching, and working in Stone Quarries; says he has been enlisted in the Army, but got his Discharge; served his Time in Nottingham, Chester County, and it is likely he may be gone that Way; Had on, when he went away, an old Hat, blue cloth Jacket, Ozenbrigs Shirt, wide Ozenbrigs Trowsers, old Shoes, no Stockings. Whoever secures the said James McKight in Chester Goal, shall have five Pounds Reward, or if in any other Goal, Three Pounds, paid by the Subscriber, living in Ridley Township, Chester County. JOHN CROSBY. September 1, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette Absconded from his Bail, a certain James Camble, a Native of Ireland, betwixt 40 and 50 Years of Age, about 5 Feet 6 Inches high, his Hair blackish, and bald on the Forehead, has a red Face, thin visaged, hollow eyed, a Roman Nose, flat Mouth, and long Chin; is apt to get drunk, and talk much to little Purpose: Had on, when he went away, a brown Cloth Coat, with Mohair Buttons, white homespun Cloth Breeches, and a Jacket of the same with Cuffs, a new Felt Hat, and took with him a white Dimity Jacket, and other Things; it is supposed he is gone towards Lancaster. Whoever takes up said Camble, and brings him to the Subscriber, living in the Township of Warrington, in the County of Bucks, about two Miles from Neshaminy Meeting house, shall receive Three Pounds Reward, from me THOMAS CRAIG. September 22, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette RUN away from the Subscriber, living in Oxford Township, Chester County, an Irish Servant, named Thomas Cane, late from Ireland; the Fellow can read and write, about 5 Feet high, of a fair Complexion, short fair Hair, and speaks with a Tone: Had on, when he went away, a Thickset Coat and Jacket, of a dark Colour, the Coat has remarkable long Skirts, Calf skin Breeches, much dirtied, Worsted Stockings, brown and white; he had also a Pair of short Petticoat Trowsers, with a Seam round each Thigh, half worn Shoes, large Copper Buckles, a Felt Hat, half worn. Said Fellow came in a Dublin Vessel last May. All Masters of Vessels are forbid to carry him off. Whoever takes up and secures said Servant, so as his Master may have him again, shall have Five Pounds Reward, paid by DAVID KENNEDY, jun. September 15, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette FIVE POUNDS Reward. RUN away from the Subscriber, living in Sadsbury Township, in the County of Lancaster, and Province of Pennsylvania, a Servant Man, named James Garlen, late from Ireland, about 5 Feet 6 Inches high, of a dark Complexion, round faced; had on, when he went away, a blue Coat, Jacket and Breeches of the same, a new Felt Hat, a brown Wig, light blue ribb Stockings, square Buckles in his Shoes, one of them Brass, the other Whitemetal; he is about 25 Year of Age, speaks pretty much in the Irish Dialect. Whoever takes up said Servant, and secures him in any of his Majesty Goals in this Province, shall have the above Reward, and reasonable Charges, paid by HUGH RUSSELL. October 6, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette Upper Freehold (New Jersey) October 1, 1763. RUN away last Night from James Jackson, of Upper Freehold, in the County of Monmouth, East New Jersey, a Servant Girl, named Elizabeth Rainey, lately come from Belfast, in Ireland, into Philadelphia; she is about 17 or 18 Years of Age, of a very short Stature, very thick, full faced, much Pock marked, and speaks very broad: Had on, and took with her, a streaked Linsey woolsey Josey, a black quilted Petticoat, two Pair of Womens single channelled Pumps, not certain how many Pairs of Stockings, two Gowns, the one Calicoe, and the other a darkish Camblet; several Shifts, several Gauze Caps and Handkerchiefs, several Aprons, a large short red napped Cloak, with a Hood to it, and Gimp round the said Hood; and a Chip Hat. Whoever secures said Servant in any Goal in this Province, so as her Master may have her again, shall receive Thirty Shillings Reward, and reasonable Charges, by me JAMES JACKSON. N.B. If she is taken up in or about Philadelphia, or any Part of Pennsylvania, the Reward will be paid by Andrew Steuart, Printer, in Philadelphia. November 10, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette RUN AWAY from the Subscriber, living in Christine Hundred, New Castle County, on Monday Morning, the 22d ult. A Servant Man, a Blacksmith by Trade, can read and write, is a cunning Fellow, and I bought him by the Name of Daniel Dorthety, but has since changed his Name to William Armstrong, and it is likely he may change it again; he was born in the County of Donegall, near Belemefye, in Sonarlin, and brought into this Country from Ireland by Thomas Maglaery, Master of the Ship King of Prussia, from Dublin, but may change both the Name of Captain and Ship. The said Daniel Dorthety is a grim looking Fellow, has short black hair, which turns into his Neck straight limbed, about 5 feet 5 Inches high, and has thick Lips: had on, and took with him, A white Shirt, and a Check Ditto, Cloth Breeches, with Horn Buttons, a striped Vest, with the Stripes across, and blue Buttons, of divers Sizes, new Shoes, with gilt Buckles, a Pair of Stockings, near a Squirrel Colour, and a Silk Handkerchief. He broke open a Lock, and took out of a Chest the following Things, viz. One new brown Coat, with a falling Cape, a new Fur Hat, white Shirt, and a Pair of long white Trowsers. Whoever takes up and secures said Servant, so as his Master may have him again, shall have Three Pounds Reward, and reasonable Charges, paid by THOMAS OGLE, jun. N.B. He was seen near Lancaster, and is supposed to be gone back. November 24, 1763 The Pennsylvania Gazette Earl Township, Lancaster county, November 14, 1763. A Fellow, who calls himself JOHN YOUNG (which Name he will probably change) has, for about three Months past, resided and worked in this Township and Neighbourhood, during which Time he run considerably in debt, particularly with the Subscriber; and on Saturday, the 12th inst. thought proper to abscond; he is about 25 Years of Age, born in Ireland, of a small Stature, thin Visage, and smooth Face, speaks English in a pretty good Dialect: had on, when he went away, an old brown Coat and Breeches, a new striped Shirt, new ribbed blue Stockings, and took with him the Pattern of a Coat and Waistcoat of blue Broadcloth, two Yards and an half of a yellowish Fustian, five Yards of white Shaloon, a new Hat, and other Things not known. Whoever secures him, by Virtue of a Warrant, in the Name and behalf of the Subscriber, in any Goal, so that he may receive that Justice which the Law entitles him to, shall have Forty Shillings Reward, and reasonable Charges, paid by DAVID DAVIS, Storekeeper, in Earl Township. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

Hi there Jean R. and all, My ggf Thomas Andrew Neil SMITH was born around 1853 somewhere in Co. Cavan to a Patrick SMITH and Ellen BRADY. Wondering what comment can be drawn from the selection of forenames???? Regards, Brent SMITH Sydney, Australia

Hi, I hope Roll Call is still going on! I have at least three different families I need help on. I am just listing the surnames, but will send aditional information if anyone answers and indicates they might be interested in helping.. Donlan or Donelan County Clair (late 1800's) Gilpin all Ireland (anytime frame) Beatty (all Spellings) all Ireland (any time frame) THank you so much. Although, I do not read all the email generated from this list and seldom post, I find what I do read interesting and helpful... Thank you for the list. Best Regards Nelda - USA GILPIN DNA project member Nelda's websites - Please visit http://freepages.folklore.rootsweb.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/

I fully agree. Thank you Pat for the wonderful jopb you do. Toni -----Original Message----- From: JFW [mailto:jowyn@adelphia.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:46 PM To: IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROLL CALL] Re: This great ROLL CALL LIST Just want to add my admiration for this list in all its fullness (g)--and its able administrator. Keep it coming!! Cheers, Jude > >I was not aware that we had so many listers on this list > > > It is wonderful to have you as a member of this list, Cara. FYI, we > have over 900 subbers on this list and even with those who can't stand > the 'kitchen' unsubbing, we will still have over 900. I have had a busy > night putting the few on reject but know this list will still be as good > as usual when all the neigh sayers go away and we can get back to Irish > genealogy and culture, including recipes when they happen to be posted. > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, list admin > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > > > ==== IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the Ireland Roll Calls Mailing List > Search the list's archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ireland-roll-calls > ==== IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS Mailing List ==== To Unsubcribe from L: mailto:IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS-L-request@rootsweb.com To Unsubscribe from D: mailto:IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS-D-request@rootsweb.com Put the single word 'unsubscribe' in the message subject and body

Can SKS are there any Cemetery Index's for Antrim....looking for the Deaths of Robert and Nancy McMullen around the late 1840's early 50's... Family stories say Dau Catherine came to Aust on her own as her Family had all passed on... cheers Jan

Good Morning my name is Jan and I live in Brisbane just back from a holiday so back into the Family Tree again. I am trying to find out more about Catherine McMULLAN.. born in Antrim between 1840-1850..... Catherine was in Brisbane by 1863... We know her Parents were Robert and Nancy....from Marriage Certificate's.. I have found on the IGI a Robert McMULLEN married a Nancy DICKEY on 17 Aug 1838 at Millrow Presb. Church. Antrim Ireland. Is there any way of finding more about Robet and Nancy and what children they did have....or where exactly they were living.. Catherine married John LANGFORD in Brisbane.. and had 3 children..... Mary , Robert and Nancy.. any help very much appreciated.. Jan Brisbane...

Hello Shirley, Thank you for you help and advice. I just trying to get a footing into Ireland at the moment so don't know if there is a STEWART connection at this stage. Sorry to say that Ancestry.com is to costly for me to be a member. Was just hoping there may have been someone who may have though there could be a connection with the FLYNN's. Beryl in Vic. Aust. ----- Original Message ----- Subject: SHAW of County Down From: bssipler@comcast.net Date: 14/11/05 8:55 AM To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Hello, There are Shaws who married into our Stewart lines of County Down. Can find more information at Ancestry.com. Shirley Researching: Weaver, Stewart, Cleland, Finley, Howe, Herron, Craig, Davidson and many others of Killyleagh, Co. Down

Hello J. (Jean), Thank you for the Landowners list. At this stage I haven't got a footing into Ireland so don't know if any of the name fit those I searching for. Beryl in Vic. Aust. ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [IRELAND] SHAW/STEWART of County Down From: jeanrice@cet.com Date: 5:55 AM To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Those researching your surnames may not have the following -- Landowners (1876) who owned one acre or more in Co. Down - Name of owner - Address/es of Owner - Extent - Valuation. Notation "Reps. of" may show someone representing the owner returned the survey; perhaps, because the owner was recently deceased. . SHAW 1. Charles W., Belfast, 182+ acres, 319 pounds 5 shillings. 2. David, Oughley, Saintfield, 41 acres, 37 pounds 15 shillings. 3. Henry, Lurgan, 54+ acres, 63 pounds 10 shillings. 4. James, Ballyskeagh, Ballyaghlis, 24+ acres, 21 pounds even.. 5. James, Ballymagarrick, Carryduff, 51 acres, 48 pounds 10 shillings. 6. James, Strandtown, 12+ acres, 328 pounds even. 7. James, Reps. of, Belfast, 40+ acres, 36 pounds 15 shillings. 8. Jane, Ballyamagarrick, Carryduff, 17+ acres 15 pounds, 10 shillings. 9. Jane, Belfast, 12+ acres, 62 pounds 10 shillings. 10. John, Ballymagarrick, Carryduff, 12+ acres, 11 pounds even. 11. Jos., Belfast, 21+ acres, 22 pounds even. 12. Robert, Glassdrummond, Ballynahinch, 1+ acre 27 pounds, 5 shillings. 13. Robert, Reps. of, Ballynafoy, 17+ acres 15 pounds, 10 shillings. 14. Samuel, Oughley, Saintfield, 21+ acres 18 pounds, 10 shillings. 15. Thomas, Strandtown, 1 acre, 149 pounds even. 16. William, Marmion, Holywood, 6+ acres, 113 pounds even. 17. William, Kirkcubbin, 8+ acres, 41 pounds 12 shillings. 18. William, Killyleagh, 1+ acre, 37 pounds 15 shillings. 19. William A., Bath, 100+ acres, 75 pounds 5 shillings. STEWART 1. Alexander, Ballyedmond, Rostrevor, 347+ acres, 375 pounds even.. 2. Alex. J. R., Ards, Co. Donegal, 5,002+ acres, 6,520 pounds 10 shillings. 3. George, Ballygallum, Ardglass, 20+ acres, 20 pounds 15 shillings. 4. George, Ballygallum, Killough, 35+ acres, 52 pounds 10 shillings. 5. Rev. Hugh, Bangor, 3+ acres, 45 pounds 15 shillings. 6. Hugh, Shanaghan, 24+ acres, 70 pounds 5 shillings. 7. Hugh, Holywood, 2+ acres, 369 pounds 5 shillings. 8. Hugh, England, 3+ acres, 87 pounds even. 9. Hugh, Reps. of., Dromore, 9+ acres, 95 pounds even. 10. Hunter, Ballynagarrick, Gilford, 7 acres, 7 pounds 15 shillings. 11. James, Ballymackilrainey, 34+ acres, 35 pounds even. 12. James, Killinchy, 43+ acres, 46 pounds even. 13. Joseph, Carnemuck, 2+ acres, 198 pounds 5 shillings. 14. William, Loughhans, 6+ acres, 12 pounds 10 shillings. 15. William, Belfast, 71+ acres, 132 pounds 10 shillings. J.

Hi Maureen, I think the place name would be Pingelly not Pengelly. I not familiar with this place name but checked our post code book. There is no place known as Pengelly. How ever there is one by the name of Pingelly which is in Western Australia. Have a nice day, Beryl in Vic. Australia ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [IRELAND] SHAW / FLYNN From: MJen512444@aol.com Date: 1:55 AM To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Hello Beryl, again, I believe I have now remembered the written work. It was a booklet giving thumbnail sketches of the first people to settle in aparticular area. Pengelly. One person, or family was chosen amongst the settlers in this area, and a small description of their history was given. When the lady who wrote it gave a brief summary of families mentioned in the booklet, I spotted a few names I recognized, and wrote back. This was in the Hereford Family History Journal. The people mentioned known to me, were Helen Williams, Jesse Price Williams, I think. Anyway, Helen Williams was a neice of my great grandmother,and therefore a cousin of my grandmother. Jesse Williams, I already knew by name, because I had been corresponding with various family members for a few years by then. Anyway, at least I have remembered the name Pengelly. Oh! heck, would that be Pingelly. I would pronouce the two words differently anyway, but the similarity of the spellings would throw me off until I remembered properly. Good to hear from you, best regards, Maureen Jenkins

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Nor me - brill isn't it? Where do you get all this Jean? Cheers Gill ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mautrav@aol.com> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Italian Irish, A Quiet Migration - Church Decorators, Terrazzo... > In a message dated 11/14/2005 2:43:11 PM Central Standard Time, > jeanrice@cet.com writes: > SNIPPET: In Casalattico, Italy, St. Patrick's Day is celebrated with > gusto > and many inhabitants there speak English but with an Irish accent! > Situated > south of > Rome in the Valle di Comino, the tiny mountainous village is rustic, harsh > and rocky. > Jean, > > FASCINATING!!! I had ne clue!! Thanks for this info. > > Maureen N > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup > volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ > >

Hi Ms. Gilly - Books, magazines about Ireland - don't worry, I am not making it up! Figure we might as well learn about Ireland while we are researching for our ancestors. J. xx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gill Smith" <gilliandavies@lineone.net> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Italian Irish, A Quiet Migration - Church Decorators, Terrazzo... > Nor me - brill isn't it? > > Where do you get all this Jean? > > Cheers > Gill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Mautrav@aol.com> > To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:21 PM > Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Italian Irish, A Quiet Migration - Church Decorators, > Terrazzo...

In a message dated 11/14/2005 2:43:11 PM Central Standard Time, jeanrice@cet.com writes: SNIPPET: In Casalattico, Italy, St. Patrick's Day is celebrated with gusto and many inhabitants there speak English but with an Irish accent! Situated south of Rome in the Valle di Comino, the tiny mountainous village is rustic, harsh and rocky. Jean, FASCINATING!!! I had ne clue!! Thanks for this info. Maureen N

Hello Maureen, Thank you for your interesting family story. Did you think there might be a connection. I can't say that I have one at this stage. When you do get to find the article about the first settlers who arrived in Australia I would be very interested in a scanned copy? By some chance would the place name have been Port Phillip? Beryl in Vic. Australia ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [IRELAND] SHAW / FLYNN From: MJen512444@aol.com Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:08:46 EST To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Hello Beryl, I did not realise there was an Irish connection until I read your email. But, I have in my family, a James Williams, who was widowed when my great grandmother's sister Ann Williams, nee Smith died. This was in Wales and Herefordshire. i.e. Radnorshire, then James Williams moved to Herefordshire where he must have met and married a 'widow Shaw'. She probably had children of her own with the surname Shaw, but she and James Williams also had a child called Arthur in their own marriage. From family lore, James Williams and the ex Mrs. Shaw left Herefordshire, well, I think it was Hay on Wye actually, which is on the border with Radnorshire and Herefordshire. They are supposed to have left these shores for Australia around 1900. Arthur by now, was a grown lad, and I do have a not very good copy of a photograph of the family group taken about the time they set sail. I would have thought that Arthur might well have been about 10 years old at the time. Sailing with the family was another relative of mine, one Jesse Williams, a male. And he was born in Breconshire. There is actually an article written about some of these first settlers who arrived in Australia. I will have to find my notes, but I do know the name of the settlement began with a P. Sorry for that, but memory fades sometimes until refreshed. All the best, Maureen Jenkins Rhondda Valley, South Wales. There is actually an article written about some of these first settlers who arrived in Australia. I will have to find my notes, but I do know the name of the settlement began with a P. Sorry for that, but memory fades sometimes until refreshed.

Hello Pete. Thank you. Bob

SNIPPET: In Casalattico, Italy, St. Patrick's Day is celebrated with gusto and many inhabitants there speak English but with an Irish accent! Situated south of Rome in the Valle di Comino, the tiny mountainous village is rustic, harsh and rocky. It has a touch of Connemara, that rugged region in the west of Ireland. On March 17 each year, a special Mass is celebrated in the town in honor of the Irish patron saint. Green banners abound, along with real Shamrocks mailed from Ireland. Irish and Italian music fills the air. By evening there are Irish dancers. Many of the Italians who settled in Ireland came from sunlit Casalattico in a steady trickle. The exodus followed Italy's 1858 revolution, the "Risorgimento." With the victory of King Emmanual, many who fought for Garibaldi fled the country. Some of them, and others who left because of extreme poverty, traveled by foot through Italy into France. Many settled in England or Scotland, others in Ireland. Earlier, Irish missionaries, often called "warrior monks," had left their mark all over Europe, including Italy. Munster-born St. Cathal was the patron saint of the Italian army and revered in Taranto in southern Italy. Donogh O'Brien, the son of the 11th century High King Brian Boru joined the Roman monastery of Santo Stefano Rotondo, where he died. The Normans, who built castles in Sicily fifty years later, began cultural links between Italy and Ireland. The great Norman-Irish families such as the Fitzgeralds claimed Italian ancestors. The Geraldine can trace their heritage to the powerful Gheradini family of Florence. Followng the winning of Catholic emancipation in Ireland in 1829, there was a boom in church building. There was a demand for stone masons, church decorators and terrazzo tile workers. Italians with such skills had already been brought over to Ireland to ornament the graceful houses of Georgian Dublin and the country home of the English landlords. Alessandro Galilei, the architect who designed the facade of St. John Latern in Rome, built Castletown House in Co. Kildare for William Conolly. Other craftsmen decorated such mansions as Russborough, Maynooth College and Aras an Uachtarain, in the Phoenix Park, Dublin, which is the residence of the President of Ireland. The master craftsman Bartholomew Crammillion decorated Dublin's Rotunda Hospital. The lovely fleur-de-lys, cupids and angels still to be seen in the plasterwork of Georgian houses in Dublin are synonymous with such names as Francini and Bossi. At the time of Catholic emanicipation, Paul Cullen was Archbishopof Dublin. He had studied at the Irish College in Rome and acquired a taste for Roman-style churches, ornate decorating and Italian religious symbolism. The demand grew. Years after the Great Famine 1845-1849) many of the one million Irish who had emigrated worldwide in search of work and food sent money home to to have gravestones made and decorated in memory of family members who had died of starvation. Italians were quickly assimilated into the Irish culture. They were not taking work away from Irish. Their skills were needed. Both ethnic groups shared the same religion. The Italians brought gastronomic skills with them including the introduction of ice cream and hot chestnuts. Many of the Italians who came to Ireland, other than those in stone and terrazzo work, ended up selling fish and chips, not spaghetti. The first Italian immigrants in Ireland married with their own ethnic group. With time that gradually changed. Next to the Jewish community, the Italians form the oldest and most cohesive group of immigrants in Ireland. They advertise their nationality through their names which include Cipriani, Cafolla, Borza, Fusco, Marcari, De Vito, Cassoni. Carlo Bianconi ("Brian Cooney" to his neighbors in Thurles, Co. Tipperary) built and organized the first Irish transport system. He arrived in Ireland in 1804. One of the few Italians to venture into Irish politics, he helped his friend Daniel O'Connell in his fight for Catholic amancipation Giuseppe Nannetti was a Lord Mayor of Dublin (1906-08). During the 1930s, the Italian ship, "Amerigo Vespucci" visited Dublin and its crew enjoyed the hospitality of the Cafolla family, whose photo appears in the March-April 2001 issue of "Ireland of the Welcomes." Luigi Fulgoni developed a perfume called "Shamrock Leaves" circa 1960s; his next venture was the opening of Dublin's Unicorn Restaurant. Until 1969, there was a large Italian community in Northern Ireland, mainly in Belfast, where members attended St. Mary's Church in Chapel Lane. There was even an Italian school in the city. A close social life was maintained, and in the early years marriage among Italian families were encouraged. Always, the link with Italy was maintained. The financial and material support from the Italian-Irish at the time of Italy's disastrous flood in 1951 was an example of that unbroken link. In 1978, the Club Italiano centre in Tibradden on the outskirts of Dublin was opened. "Italia Stampa" is the official publication of the entire Italian-Irish community. Researchers may be interested in "Terra Straniera: The Story of the Italians in Ireland," author Una POWER. -- Excerpts, Dublin's "Ireland of the Welcomes" magazine

Those researching your surnames may not have the following -- Landowners (1876) who owned one acre or more in Co. Down - Name of owner - Address/es of Owner - Extent - Valuation. Notation "Reps. of" may show someone representing the owner returned the survey; perhaps, because the owner was recently deceased. . SHAW 1. Charles W., Belfast, 182+ acres, 319 pounds 5 shillings. 2. David, Oughley, Saintfield, 41 acres, 37 pounds 15 shillings. 3. Henry, Lurgan, 54+ acres, 63 pounds 10 shillings. 4. James, Ballyskeagh, Ballyaghlis, 24+ acres, 21 pounds even.. 5. James, Ballymagarrick, Carryduff, 51 acres, 48 pounds 10 shillings. 6. James, Strandtown, 12+ acres, 328 pounds even. 7. James, Reps. of, Belfast, 40+ acres, 36 pounds 15 shillings. 8. Jane, Ballyamagarrick, Carryduff, 17+ acres 15 pounds, 10 shillings. 9. Jane, Belfast, 12+ acres, 62 pounds 10 shillings. 10. John, Ballymagarrick, Carryduff, 12+ acres, 11 pounds even. 11. Jos., Belfast, 21+ acres, 22 pounds even. 12. Robert, Glassdrummond, Ballynahinch, 1+ acre 27 pounds, 5 shillings. 13. Robert, Reps. of, Ballynafoy, 17+ acres 15 pounds, 10 shillings. 14. Samuel, Oughley, Saintfield, 21+ acres 18 pounds, 10 shillings. 15. Thomas, Strandtown, 1 acre, 149 pounds even. 16. William, Marmion, Holywood, 6+ acres, 113 pounds even. 17. William, Kirkcubbin, 8+ acres, 41 pounds 12 shillings. 18. William, Killyleagh, 1+ acre, 37 pounds 15 shillings. 19. William A., Bath, 100+ acres, 75 pounds 5 shillings. STEWART 1. Alexander, Ballyedmond, Rostrevor, 347+ acres, 375 pounds even.. 2. Alex. J. R., Ards, Co. Donegal, 5,002+ acres, 6,520 pounds 10 shillings. 3. George, Ballygallum, Ardglass, 20+ acres, 20 pounds 15 shillings. 4. George, Ballygallum, Killough, 35+ acres, 52 pounds 10 shillings. 5. Rev. Hugh, Bangor, 3+ acres, 45 pounds 15 shillings. 6. Hugh, Shanaghan, 24+ acres, 70 pounds 5 shillings. 7. Hugh, Holywood, 2+ acres, 369 pounds 5 shillings. 8. Hugh, England, 3+ acres, 87 pounds even. 9. Hugh, Reps. of., Dromore, 9+ acres, 95 pounds even. 10. Hunter, Ballynagarrick, Gilford, 7 acres, 7 pounds 15 shillings. 11. James, Ballymackilrainey, 34+ acres, 35 pounds even. 12. James, Killinchy, 43+ acres, 46 pounds even. 13. Joseph, Carnemuck, 2+ acres, 198 pounds 5 shillings. 14. William, Loughhans, 6+ acres, 12 pounds 10 shillings. 15. William, Belfast, 71+ acres, 132 pounds 10 shillings. J. .. ----- Original Message ----- From: <bssipler@comcast.net> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: [IRELAND] SHAW of County Down > Hello, > There are Shaws who married into our Stewart lines of County Down. Can find more information at Ancestry.com. > Shirley > Researching: Weaver, Stewart, Cleland, Finley, Howe, Herron, Craig, Davidson and many others of Killyleagh, Co. Down > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ >