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    1. Re: [IRELAND] LOOKUP-CAREY
    2. William & Mary Carey. They were married on Feb. 19, 1865 in Delvin, County Westmeath Nothing with this information Mike..

    11/19/2005 07:46:32
    1. LOOK UP please - MARTIN
    2. Jan & Ron
    3. SIMON MARTIN Born about 1857 DUBLIN also his father JAMES Thank you, Janet

    11/19/2005 06:56:28
    1. Re: [IRELAND] LOOKUP-CAREY
    2. Hi MaryPat, Thanks anyway. Do the CD's cover marriages? If so, would you be kind enough to see if there's anything on William & Mary Carey. They were married on Feb. 19, 1865 in Delvin, County Westmeath. Thanks again, Mike

    11/19/2005 06:11:32
    1. Look up Langley please
    2. Hello. Thank you for the offer. Could you please lookup LANGLEY? I think they were in Gort and Loughrea. Thank you. Best wishes. Bob

    11/19/2005 05:43:25
    1. Lookup- Hanrahan
    2. ~Rachel~
    3. Thanks so much for offering to do a lookup. Not sure if it will be too early but am looking for this family: Thomas Hannrahan born about 1844. Parents listed as Thomas Hanrahan and Mary Murphy. Only location I have for this family in Ireland is a son of Thomas and Mary, Michael, residing in Galway in 1912. Rachel

    11/19/2005 04:59:18
    1. Re: [IRELAND] LOOK UP please - MARTIN
    2. Hi Janet, No hit with info given .. ???Births start with 1864 on this CD for this name .. Strange - every father is named James Martin (different wives) MaryPat

    11/19/2005 04:28:11
    1. Re: [IRELAND] LOOKUP-CAREY
    2. Hi Mike, Sorry no hits, Births start in 1864 on these CD's for CAREY I too am looking for CAREY possibly from Kerry

    11/19/2005 04:16:30
    1. LOOKUP-CAREY
    2. Hi MaryPat, Would you please look up a William Carey. He was born in either Aug. of 1841 or Aug. of 1843 in County Westmeath. Unfortunately we don't have a Townland, but believe it may have been in the Delvin area. Thanks Mike

    11/19/2005 03:03:45
    1. Great Famine 1847 - Importance of Proper Burials to Doomed Irish
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: "If the first and most pressing problem for the living was how to remain alive, the second was how to dispose of the dead. For though there were virtually no births and therefore few infants less than a year old - pregnant women being too starved and emaciated to carry, much less feed, a fetus - the deaths from starvation, typhus, relapsing fever, famine dropsy, scurvy, dysentery or from combinations of any of them became so frequent and numerous, the dead so common everywhere, that if the driver of a car felt a bump at night, he knew he had ridden over a body stricken on the highway. Next to food, clothing, and medical help, families stood in need of coffins, and as they became too expensive to buy, and then almost impossible to obtain at any price, a sad and humiliating change took place in the way the Irish put their dead to rest. Before the famine, the poorest farmer believed in and strove for the credit and respectability attached to a good, large, well-conducted funeral. Many saved for no other purpose than to have the necessary money to buy a coffin, finance a wake, engage professional keeners, and hire the horse-drawn hearse that hundreds would follow on foot to the grave. No custom was more firmly rooted in Ireland's pagan past or more resistant to Roman Catholic criticism (primarily, for excesses at wakes) .... In Ireland the pagan and Christian rituals had become so intertwined as to be inseparable. About the importance of a coffin, however, there was no argument from either side. In everyone's eyes the coffin represented the dead pers! on's ultimate seclusion, his final and inviolable private room. To be without one at the end was to lose respect and to cast shame on those you left behind. It was so important that in 1847, when deaths outnumbered burials and unburied bodies began to accumulate, relatives of the dead pulled old family chests apart to make coffins. When the chests were gone and the people kept dying, tables and boats were torn apart, warped coffin boards were stolen from old graveyards. In Armagh, County Tyrone* where people knew the art of basketry, basket coffins were made for the dead when wood became unobtainable. In other districts the dead were wrapped by their relatives in sheets, sacking or straw mats or in barrel staves bound up with straw ropes. One woman brought her wasted dead husband, wrapped in a sheet, on her back to Kilsarcon churchyard to be buried. The edges of the sheet were held together by 'scannans,' then bogdeal spars worked in and out through the edges of the ! sheet. Finally, a new kind of reusable coffin, called a 'trap coffin,' came into use. Built sturdy enough to withstand the wear and tear of hundreds of funerals, it was fitted with a hinged bottom that swung open like a trap door when released at the graveyard, whereby the dead person was dropped into the grave. The man who owned it also owned the horse and cart that carried the dead person to the graveyard. He made several trips a day, always with the same coffin and often to the same grave, which was filled with as many as six bodies, the topmost one being very close to ground level, before the grave was closed and covered over. This explains why starving dogs, so starved they could no longer bark, raided graveyards at night and why one famine graveyard, Cashel, Co. Tipperary, was later, after the turn of the century, barbarously and contemptuously called 'The Shank Yard..' As the manner and means of burial became uppermost in everyone's mind, some starving and exhausted people, knowing they had a short time to live, sought admittance to the poorhouse. They wanted not so much aid as the coffin and decent burial that their families and friends could not afford them. Others, not so desperate but expecting a death in the family, rushed to the carpenter's and ordered a coffin ahead of time for fear there would be no lumbar left when the death occurred. 'In every village the manufacture was remarkable at the doors of the carpenters' homes, and in the country parts I often met coffins, and boards for making coffins, carried on the backs of women,' wrote the Reverend F. F. TRENCH in a letter dated 1847. 'At Glengariff, the Roman Catholic Chapel is turned into a place for making coffins ... I entered .. and said to one of the carpenters, 'What are you making boys?' -- 'Coffins and wheelbarrows, Sir.'" *(Note -- Apparently the Poor Law Union town of Armagh was a civil registration district for some townlands in both Cos. Armagh and Tyrone). -- Excerpt, "Paddy's Lament, Ireland 1846-47", Thomas and Michael Gallagher (1982).

    11/19/2005 01:52:36
    1. The Easter 1916 Rebellion
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: James CONNOLLY was born in 1870 near Clones, Co. Monaghan, and was one of the signatories of the Declaration of the Republic, 1916. Others included Padraig PEARSE of Dublin, Sean MacDIARMADA, of Glenfarne, Co. Leitrim, Eamonn CEANNT of Co. Galway, Joseph PLUNKETT of Dublin, Thomas MacDONAGH of Cloughjordan, Co. Tipperary, and Thomas J. CLARKE who had a tobacconist shop in Dublin. Although far more complex than this - In Ireland (and not everyone fell neatly in this scheme) there were lines of division. Gains had been made in tenant protection, fixing rents fairly, a guarantee against eviction, and so it was that peasant proprietorship set the tone for modern Irish rural society. And the other two subversive forces of significance, unionism and nationalism, crystallized in the form of Catholic, Gaelic nationalism and Protestant, non-Gaelic unionism. Unionist opposition to Home Rule was fierce as reflected in the Solemn League and Covenant in 1912: "Being convinced in our consciences that Home Rule would be disastrous to the material well-being of Ulster as well as the whole of Ireland, subversive of our civil and religious freedom, destructive of our citizenship, and perilous to the unity of the Empire (we) do hereby pledge ourselves...to stand by one another in defending for ourselves and our children our cherished position of equal citizenship in the United Kingdom and in using all means which may be found necessary to defeat the present conspiracy to set up a Home Rule Parliament." The following year the Ulster Volunteer Force was established. Around the same time the Irish Volunteers were established. There was a nationalist counter-gesture with emphasis on Gaelic culture, development of native Irish sports, cultural attempts to fight against the Anglicisation of Ireland and a political struggle to free Ireland from English control. The Easter 1916 rebellion had little realistic chance of success, and it was crushed by the authorities within a week, but the proclamation which Padraic Pearse read out in Dublin on the opening day of the revolt became of the sacred texts of the Irish republican tradition: "We declare the right of the people of Ireland to the ownership of Ireland, and to the unfettered control of Irish destinies, to be sovereign and indefeasible. The long usurpation of that right by a foreign people and government has not extinguished the right, nor can it ever be extinguished except by the destruction of the Irish people...The Irish republic is entitled to, and hereby claims, the allegiance of every Irishman and Irishwoman. The republic guarantees religious and civil liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities to all its citizens, and declares it resolve to pursue the happiness and prosperity of the whole nation and of all its parts, cherishing all the children of the nation equally, and oblivious of the differences carefully fostered by an alien government, which have divided a minority from the majority in the past...In this supreme hour the Irish nation must, by its valour and discipline, and by the readiness of its children to sacrifice themselves for the common good, prove itself worthy of the august destiny to which it is called." Signed on behalf of the provisional government, Thomas J. Clarke, Sean MacDiarmada, Thomas MacDonagh, P. H. Pearse, Eamonn Ceannt, James Connolly, Joseph Plunkett. These men were executed at Kilmainham prison and buried at Arbour Hill Military Prison were considered martyrs for their cause. This event was one in a combination of factors that later united to stimulate nationalist Ireland into a new stage of activity - i.e., Britain's involvement in the First World War seemed to offer an opportunity of striking at a distracted England, and the threatened imposition of conscription on Ireland into the war which served powerfully to alienate many people from the authorities. Until more recently, solutions have remained elusive in the bloody Northern Irish conflict. The existence of competing, self-sustaining forces in Ireland has in many instances culminated in great conflict. Waves of invasion, patterns of settlement, religious and ethnic identity and difference, and the color and complexity of overlapping cultures have rendered Ireland's history both compelling and painful. But it is also true that they have helped to produce an island rich in appeal for many other people, as well, and welcome progress in the road to peace and prosperity has been made in recent years.

    11/19/2005 01:25:59
    1. Re: [IRELAND] lookup
    2. :Patrick Dowling ? He would appear in the British Islands sometime before 1851. The place of birth would be Co. queens. aghaboe parish, town -Boston ireland. His date of birth would be 1837. Births in this area start in 1867 There are children born to Patrick's but they are not married to a SARAH Phelan parents edward and sarah phelan dowling Nothing on them

    11/18/2005 04:52:32
    1. Re: [IRELAND] Roll Call: Larkin, Kiely, Maher, Cunningham
    2. looking for Joseph Wall arrived in USA from Co. Wicklow, Ireland after spending some time in Liverpool, England. Believed to have returned briefly to Baltinglass, Wicklow in 1960's or 1970's before returning stateside, might have died in Brimingham, Al. thx pete

    11/18/2005 04:15:10
    1. Re: [IRELAND] Look up - Gaul/Gaule
    2. Hi Maureen, Births for Gaul/Gaule start on this CD in 1865 and there are children born to a William Gaule in Kilkenny as follows... GAULE, Edmond Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 5 Apr 1865 Birthplace: 893, Kilmacevoge, Kilk, Ire Recorded in: Kilkenny, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: William GAULE Mother: Catherine PHELAN Source: FHL Film 101108 Dates: 1865 - 1865 GAULE, Margaret Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 22 Apr 1870 Birthplace: 998, Kilmakevoge, Kilk, Ire Recorded in: Kilkenny, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: William GAULE Mother: Catherine PHELAN Source: FHL Film 101208 Dates: 1870 - 1870 GAULE, Catherine Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 16 Feb 1872 Birthplace: 1069, Kilmakevoge, Kilk, Ire Recorded in: Kilkenny, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: William GAULE Mother: Catherine PHELAN Source: FHL Film 255846 Dates: 1871 - 1873 GAULE, Patrick Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 8 Jun 1873 Birthplace: Kilmakevoge, Kilk, Ire Recorded in: Kilkenny, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: William GAULE Mother: Catherine PHELAN Source: FHL Film 255881 Dates: 1873 - 1874 Checked for a marriage, none shows MaryPat

    11/18/2005 03:55:19
    1. Re: [IRELAND] Look up - Gaul/Gaule
    2. Mary Pat, How kind of you to offer. On your CD - do you have a William (or Buddy) Gaul/Gaule? He would appear in the British Islands sometime after about 1860. The place of birth would be Co. Kilkenny. His date of birth would be 1843. Thanks for the offer. Maureen N

    11/18/2005 03:27:01
    1. lookup
    2. Dowling Family
    3. Mary Pat, How nice of you to offer. On your CD - do you have a Patrick Dowling ? He would appear in the British Islands sometime before 1851. The place of birth would be Co. queens. aghaboe parish, town -Boston ireland. His date of birth would be 1837. parents edward and sarah phelan dowling Thanks so much for the offer. dawn Dowling

    11/18/2005 02:54:45
    1. Re: [IRELAND] Roll Call - County Tyrone, MCALLISTER, SHIELDS
    2. MCALLISTER/SHIELDS family from Dungarvon, County Tyrone. Emigrated first to Scotland and then to USA. Settled in western MD, Allegany County area about 1860. From the BIVR Index Nothing for DUNGARVON, however the following shows MC ALISTER, Isaac Age: 32 Marriage Wife: Ellen CUNNINGHAM Marriage Date: 5 Jun 1855 Recorded in: Donacavey, Tyrone, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Husband's Father: Edward MC ALISTER Wife's Father: George CUNNINGHAM Source: FHL Film 101370 Dates: 1855 - 1855 MC ALISTER, William Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 23 May 1870 Birthplace: 590, Dungannon, Tyr, Ire Recorded in: Tyrone, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Isaac MC ALISTER Mother: Ellen CUNNINGHAM Source: FHL Film 101210 Dates: 1870 - 1870 MC ALLISTER, Bridget Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 20 Feb 1870 Birthplace: 667, Dungannon, Tyr, Ire Recorded in: Tyrone, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Charles MC ALLISTER Mother: Bella MC GACKIAN Source: FHL Film 101200 Dates: 1870 - 1870 ******************************************* SHEILS, James Marr 1850 Irel Tyro Donagh Sp: Margaret GOURLEY SHIELD, Eliza Marr 1850 Irel Tyro Ardstr Sp: Alexander LIGATE SHIELDS, John Marr 1851 Irel Tyro Donagh Sp: Sarah NEWELL SHIELDS, John Marr 1851 Irel Tyro Tullan Sp: Sarah BROWN SHIELDS, David Marr 1853 Irel Tyro Ballyc Sp: Mary Ann KENNEDY SHIELDS, Mary Marr 1855 Irel Tyro Aughal Sp: Baptist IRWIN SHIELDS, Joseph Marr 1856 Irel Tyro Cloghe Sp: Frances MITCHELL SHIELDS, William Marr 1856 Irel Tyro Carant Sp: Margaret BEARNS ********************** In Scotland there are 3055 entries for Shields 1452 for Mc Allister *******************

    11/18/2005 02:48:37
    1. British Isles Vital Records Index
    2. I have a CD set of the above files from Family History and I am willing to do lookups Please: One family name per request County, town and timeline if available Please Head subject as LOOKUP and Surname you are looing for . FIrst tme doing this so please have patience, Thanks MaryPat

    11/18/2005 02:17:14
    1. Roll Call: Larkin, Kiely, Maher, Cunningham
    2. Martin and Joan Roberts
    3. I'm looking for a Richard Larkin who has been traced back to a small town outside Kilkenny. He was fairly famous and had won a architecture award, so he may have had a college education, but we don't know. His wife was Kate (Catherine) Maher who may be from the same area near Kilkenny or somewhere in Tipperary. Estimated birthdates are in the 1790-1820 period. The Kiely's came from Tipperary also. Michael Kiely was born about 1860 probably in the Vale of Aherloe. His wife was Catherine, surname unknown. Ellen Cunningham born July 11, 1839 (died December 25, 1917) married James Larkin on February 24, 1857 in Tipperary, so we assume Ellen was from that area also. Joan

    11/18/2005 10:35:13
    1. Re: [IRELAND] Freemen of Limerick; C Surnames
    2. Cathy Joynt Labath
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Collins" <mroots95@sbcglobal.net> | Cathy - would there be any Collins (specifically John or James) or Cole (Charles) in the list of Freemen? | C Surnames have already been transcribed: http://www.celticcousins.net/ireland/freemenoflimerickctoe.htm Cathy

    11/18/2005 10:12:55
    1. Roll Call - County Tyrone, MCALLISTER, SHIELDS
    2. Mary Ellen Chambers
    3. MCALLISTER/SHIELDS family from Dungarvon, County Tyrone. Emigrated first to Scotland and then to USA. Settled in western MD, Allegany County area about 1860. Have done no research in Ireland re: this branch. Have fairly complete data after emigration. Mary Ellen Chambers Lakewood, OH

    11/18/2005 10:00:24