Just found out about Limerick City Council Website and found the following while researching JOYNT surname. A keyword search for RATHKEALE shows many postcards of the area!! From Limerick City Council Website http://www.limerickcity.ie/ Click Recreation, Amenities & Culture Click Museum Click Museum Catalog On-line Search box - Keyword - JOYNT Book. Sale catalogue, High Court, Chancery Division, Land Judges (Late Landed Estates Court), Co Limerick, sale on Friday 25 July 1879, of lands of Doohylemore and Rathnagore near Rathkeale, and of Coolacockery near Newcastlewest, estate of Joseph Bevan and others, in four lots before Judge Flanagan. Ten sheets, including four maps, bound with thread at two points near l. edge and with a stuck on spine of blue paper. Printed by Gerrard, law printer, 3 Kings Inns Quay and Chancery Place, Dublin. Lot 1: Part of the lands of Doohylemore near Ballingrane railway station a short distance from Rathkeale. Tenure: by indenture dated 29 May 1731 between Thomas, Lord Southwell, John Coke, Hugh Henry and Henry Rose, and Walter Stephens, one of masters of high court of chancery, on one part and Henry Southwell on other; by conveyance dated 11 March 1853 granted to Joseph Bevan by Commissioners for sale of encumbered estates. Tenants: Reps of Michael Lynch by lease dated 29 Mar 1856 for life of Patrick Lynch, third son of lessee, or 31 years; Jacob Switzer, rep of Edward Joynt, by lease dated 10 Jan 1863 to Edward Joynt for 99 years; Michael Condon by lease dated 28 Jan 1860 for life of Patrick Condon or 31 years. Sold subject to annuity of £100 to Kate Bevan, widow of Joseph, aged 69, and £15 to Henry Hunt, aged 73. Lot 2: Lands of Rathnagore near Rathkeale, held in fee simple. Tenant: Pierce Brown by lease dated 16 Mar 1853 from Joseph Bevan for lives of Henry and John Brown, sons of lessee, or 31 years. Subject to annuities as above. Lot 3: Part of lands of Coolacockery, held in fee simple. Tenant: John Ryan by lease dated 26 Jan 1854 from Joseph Bevan for life of Richard Ryam, second son of lessee, or 31 years. Subject to annuities as above. Lot 4: Perpetual annuity created by deed dated 22 Sep 1802 payable out of lands of Upper and Lower Glenlarry, Upper and Lower Clocasta, otherwise Clocasty, Garryleagh, otherwise Garryleigh, Reask, otherwise Ruisk and Rusk, and Garryerogue, otherwise Garryrogue, in Barony of Costlea. Owner: Sir David Vandeleur Roche, Bart. Deed of 1802 between Henry Hunt Esq, first part, Samuel Hunt, his second son, second part, Garrett Hooper and Susanna, his daughter, third part, and Christopher Knight and Garrett Hooper, fourth part. By deed of conveyance dated 26 Aug 1843 granted to Sir David Roche, Bart. Maps: One inch map, parts of sheets 152 and 153, showing Newcastlewest and Rathkeale and the three lots; Part of OS 6" sheet 20, centred on Doohylemore; Part of OS 6" sheets 19 and 28, centred on Rathnagore; Part of OS 6" sheets 28 and 36, centred on Coolacockery. Estate owner: Joseph, Godfrey, Thomas, George, William, Jane and Dilianna Bevan; George Massy Finch and his wife Margaret; William Frederick Taverner and his wife Kate. Francis Kearney, solicitor having charge of sale, 9 Merchants Quay, Dublin and 92 George St, Limerick. Folded in half twice to show title and details down second quarter of back page. Addressed on third quarter of back page to Henry French, Cangort Park, Roscrea, penny Victoria stamp and small halfpenny stamp. Postmarked on address, circular, Limerick / M / JY 17 / 79. Date Period:Modern Early:1879 Late:1879 Century:19 Q4 Other info Inv.No.:2002.0481 Dynasty:Victoria Maker:Gerrard Location Townland:Doohylemore Parish:Nantinan Barony:Connello Lower County:Limerick Town:Rathkeale Cathy JOYNT Labath Joynt / Joint Family Chronicles http://www.celticcousins.net/joynt/

The Ireland GenWeb County Mayo website has been updated. A webpage for the civil parish of Turlough has been added, as have webpages for each of the townlands included in the civil parish. Webpages for the following town(land)s have either been add or updated: Attiappleton, Ballingarden, Ballinvoash, Ballyart, Ballygarriff, Ballyguin, Bellanierin, Boyogonnell, Bunduvowen, Capparanny, Cappavicar North & South, Carrowkeel, Carrowmacloughlin, Cashel Lower & Upper, Turlough, Toomore East & West, Park, Derryhick, Lack East & West, Crumlin, Callycastle Town, Behy, Cong Town, Westport Town, Tristia (Mount Jubilee), Cauran Lower & Upper, Cloghadockan, Clogher, Cloonkesh, Cloonagleragh, Cloontubbrid, Commauns, Conloon, Crillawn, Cunnagher North & South, Derreens, Derrylahan, Derrynacross, Derrynamuck, Derryvulcaun, Drumdaff, Erriff, Fisherhill, Freaghillan, Garraghill, Gort, Gortnafolla, Greenans, Illanee, Illangub, Illanneill, Illanulque, Killard, Knockaglana, Knockanour, Largan, Laughil, Leckneen, Levallinree, Loosky Island, Lugganashlere, Luggavaddoge, Meelick, Monumentpark, Muckanagh, Oughterard, Rockfield, Ross East & West, Sallagher, Shanvoley, Sheeans, Sranalee, Tawnylaheen, Treanybrogaun, Shinnagh, Tawnykinaff, Tawnyshane, Doohooma, Gortfahy. Nora Hopkins FitzGerald's research for the Turough Civil Parish/Parke RC Parish has also been added. If you have comments, additions, corrections, etc. to the website, please contact me off this mailing list. You can check out the website at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/mayo/index.htm -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

From: "Doug Connell" <doug.connell@sympatico.ca> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: [IRELAND] RE: VISIT TO POWERSCOURT. > Thanks for the poem My line is from the Wingfields > Regrds > Mary Mary, I have one WINGFIELD: Richard, who married Eleanor GORE sometime in the late 1600s. Eleanor was the daughter of Sir Arthur GORE, 1st baronet, who died in 1697. Do we click at all? Simon Rutter

SNIPPET: "Frank McCOURT's life and his searing telling of it, reveals all we need to know about being human," wrote the 'Detroit Free Press when his award-winning memoir, 'Angela's Ashes' was published in 1996. Frank taught English for many years at Stuyvesant High School in NYC after he returned to the States from Ireland as a young man. Here are some excerpts: "My father and mother should have stayed in New York where they met and married and where I was born. Instead, they returned to Ireland when I was four, my brother, Malachy, three, the twins, Oliver and Eugene, barely one, and my sister, Margaret dead and gone." In the lanes of Limerick the family tried to survive on what amounted to fried bread and tea. Father had problems finding and then keeping a job. "The lice are disgusting, worse than rats. They're in our heads and ears and they sit in the hollows of our collarbones. They dig into our skin. They get into the seams of our clothes and they're everywhere in the coats we use as blankets. We have to search every inch of Alphie's body because he's a baby and helpless. The lice are worse than fleas ..... The shirt I wore to bed is the shirt I wear to school. I wear it day in day out. It's the shirt for football, for climbing walls, for robbing orchards I go to Mass and the Confraternity in that shirt and people ! sniff the air and move away. If Mam gets a docket for a new one at the St. Vincent de Paul the old shirt is promoted to towel and hangs damp on the chair for months or Mam might use bits of it to patch other shirts. She might even cut it up and let Alphie wear it a while before it winds up on the floor pushed against the bottom of the door to block the rain from the lane. ... We go to school through lanes and back streets so that we won't meet the respectable boys who go to the Christian Brothers' School or the rich ones who go to the Jesuit school, Crescent College. The Christian Brothers' boys wear tweed jackets, warm woolen sweaters, shirts, ties and shiny new boots. We know they're the ones who will get jobs in the civil service and help the people who run the world. The Crescent College boys wear blazers and school scarves tossed around their necks and over their shoulders to show they're cock o' the walk. They have long hair which falls across their foreheads an! d over their eyes so that they can toss their quiffs like Englishmen. We know they're the ones who will go to university, take over the family business, run the government, run the world. We'll be the messenger boys on bicycles who deliver their groceries or we'll go off to England to work on the building sites. Our sisters will mind their children and scrub their floors unless they go off to England, too. We're ashamed of the way we look and if boys from the rich schools pass remarks we'll get into fights and wind up with bloody noses or torn clothes... Grandma's next-door neighbor, Mrs. Purcell, has the only wireless in her lane. The government gave it to her because she's old and blind. I want a radio. My grandmother is old but she's not blind and what's the use of having a grandmother who won't go blind and get a government radio? Sunday nights I sit outside on the pavement under Mrs. Purcell's window listening to plays on the BBC and Radio Eireann, the Irish station You can hear plays by O'Casey, Shaw, Ibsen and Shakespeare himself, the best of all, even if he is English .... And you can hear strange plays about Greeks plucking out their eyes because they married their mothers by mistake. One night I am sitting under Mrs. Purcell's window listening to 'Macbeth.' Her daughter, Kathleen, sticks her head out the door. Come in, Frankie. My mother says you'll catch the consumption sitting on the ground in this weather. Ah no Kathleen. It's all right. No. Come in They give me tea and a grand cut of bread slath! ered with blackberry jam. Mrs. Purcell says , Do you like the Shakespeare, Frankie? I love the Shakespeare, Mrs. Purcell. Oh, he's music, Frankie, and he has the best stories in the world. I don't know what I'd do with meself of a Sunday night if I didn't have the Shakespeare. When the play finished she lets me fiddle with the knob on the radio and I roam the dial for distant sounds on the shortwave band, strange whispering and hissing, the whoosh of the ocean coming and going and Morse Code dit dit dit dot. I hear mandolins, guitars, Spanish bagpipes, the drums of Africa ... here is the great boom of Big Ben, this is the BBC Overseas Service and here is the news. Mrs. Purcell says, Leave that on, Frankie, so we'll know the state of the world. After the news there is the American Armed Forces Network and it's lovely to hear the American voices easy and cool and here is the music, oh man, the music of Duke Ellington himself telling me take the A train to where Billi! e Holiday sings only to me, 'I can't give you anything but love, baby. That's the only thing I've plenty of, baby.' Oh, Billie, Billie, I want to be in America with you and all that music, where no one has bad teeth, people leave food on their plates, every family has a lavatory, and everyone lives happily ever after. And Mrs. Purcell's says, Do you know what, Frankie? What, Mrs. Purcell? That Shakespeare is that good he must have been an Irishman."

PRELUDE Still south I went, and west, and south again, Through Wicklow from the morning to the night, And far from cities and the sights of men, Lived with the sunshine and the moon's delight. I knew the stars, the flowers and the birds The grey and wintry sides of many glens, And did but half remember human words, In converse with the mountains, moors and fens. -- J. M Synge

I am sooooooooo in hopes that someone might be able to help me to establish this family in Ireland &/o Scotland, either via connection(s) to your research or by suggestions. Have been trying to sort this family out for many yr's w/little or no success. I believe they were Presbyterian, of the Lutheran sect & possibly from Northern Ireland. 1 - John MAGINLEY s/o ??? b ca 1808 - ???, Ireland + Margaret J. STEWART b ca 1820 - ???, Ireland m ca 1840 >>> - ???, Ireland 2 - Thomas J. b 27 Feb. 1843 - ???, Ireland + Anna Elizabeth BERRY d/o James & Mary STEWART of ???, Scotland b 12 July 1842 - ???, Ireland 2 - James - b ca 1850 - ???, Ireland 2 - Mary Jane - b 17 July 1856 - ???, Scotland 1 - John & family immigr. Sept. 1860 & was naturalized in NY State - October 1878. I would be extremely grateful for your help, & do thank you, in advance. Bev USA

Ruth Are you able to supply a townland or parish for ROSS as there a multitude of entries in County Down. David

Sheila The only Nicholson entry for Galway I could find was this: BIRTH NICHOLSON, Honor Gender: Female Birth Date: 18 Feb 1874 Birthplace: 635, Tuam No 2, Gal, Ire Recorded in: Galway, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Stephen NICHOLSON Mother: Subina QUALTER Source: FHL Film 255897 Dates: 1874 - 1874 Regards David

TRUCE It begins with one or two soldiers And one or two following With hampers over their shoulders. They might be off wildfowling As they would another Christmas Day, So gingerly they pick their steps. No one seems sure of what to do. All stop when one stops. A fire gets lit. Some spread Their greatcoats on the frozen ground. Polish vodka, fruit and bread Are broken out and passed round. The air of an old German song, The rules of Patience, are the secrets They'll share before long. They draw on their last cigarettes As Friday-night lovers, when it's over, Might get up from their mattresses To congratulate each other And exchange names and addresses. -- Paul Muldoon. The Christmas Truce of 1914 is one of the most remarkable incidents of WW-I and perhaps of all military history, with enemies laying down their arms for some hours, singing Christmas songs, sharing food, and binding up each other's wounds. It began in some places on Christmas Eve and other on Christmas Day, the truce covered as much as two-thirds of the British-German front, with thousands of soldiers taking part. Perhaps most remarkably, it grew out of no single initiative but sprang up in each place spontaneously and independently. Many first-hand accounts have been transcribed to the Internet.

Hi David, All I have is from the 1851 UK Census that states he is at Weedon Barracks, Northamptonshire, and born Dromore. I also have a photostat copy that states: (W.O.12/5997-6010. Musters of 48th Regiment) Number 2158. Pte. Christopher Ross enlisted as a boy in the 48th (Northamptonshire) Regiment at Dublin, 9 June 1849, aged 14 3/12 years. From boy to private, 7 March 1850. Embarked for India, November 1858. Discharged in India, 12 June 1863. He served at the Crimea. It has not been possible to trace his place of birth. He was attached to the band of the Regiment. My son in law says he was told Christopher ran away to join the army. Whether they were living in Dublin at that time I have no idea. Unless I can find his parents I am at a dead end. Regards, Ruth

John Charles Crowley 11/25/1883 What are you looking for, any other details ? No listing for this name in the time frame you give .. MaryPat

WINTER MORNING The stars faded out of a paling sky, Dropped through the waters, but the Morning Star Grew brighter and brighter, and as the day was nigh A pure wind troubled the rushes near and far. No bird was awake: only the duck Homed to the little lake, fed full with streams: Strange and unreal the full morning broke On a still world as God saw it in dreams. The still-life, austere world was grey and cool, Lit by one burning torch of purest flame. Home -- from what hidden haunt, what secret pool? -- Borne on the morning wind, the wild duck came. -- Katharine Tynan

Thanks so much Pat. The more to genealogy than just names & dates to me-I like to know the history. Trudy -----Original Message----- From: Pat Connors [mailto:nymets11@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 10:51 AM To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRELAND] Re:Ulster plantation > > >Can you give me a quick lesson on why the Scotts and the English went to >Ulster? > Here is a couple of paragraphs from Seumas MacManus', Story of the Irish Race, from his Chapter 47, The Ulster Plantation: "It was the Sixth James of Scotland who, after he became James I of England, perpetrated this crime. The land-greedy and gain-greedy among his Scotic fellow-countrymen, and among the English, were the instigators. Upon Ireland the covetous eyes of such people were ever turned. The flight of the Earls proved a welcome excuse for the wholesale robbing of the clans. It was a very simple matter to find that all the Northern chiefs had been conspiring to rebel - against England. Hence they were "traitors' - to England! And naturallly their estates were forfeit and for distribution among James' hungry followers. "The English Lord Lieutenant, Sir Arthur Chichester, and the Attorney General, Sir John Davies, were the instruments, under James, for giving effect to the great Plantation. The lands of the six counties of Donegal, Derry (then called Coleraine), Tyrone, Fermanagh, Cavan and Armagh - four million acres - were confiscated. (The lands of the three remaining Ulster counties, Antrim, Down and Manoaghan were bestowed upon Britons at other times.) The true owners, the natives, were driven like wild fowl or beasts, from the rich and fertile valleys of Ulster, which had been theirs from time immemorial, to the bogs and the moors and the barren crags - where it was hoped that they might starve and perish...." -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/

> > >Can you give me a quick lesson on why the Scotts and the English went to >Ulster? > Here is a couple of paragraphs from Seumas MacManus', Story of the Irish Race, from his Chapter 47, The Ulster Plantation: "It was the Sixth James of Scotland who, after he became James I of England, perpetrated this crime. The land-greedy and gain-greedy among his Scotic fellow-countrymen, and among the English, were the instigators. Upon Ireland the covetous eyes of such people were ever turned. The flight of the Earls proved a welcome excuse for the wholesale robbing of the clans. It was a very simple matter to find that all the Northern chiefs had been conspiring to rebel - against England. Hence they were "traitors' - to England! And naturallly their estates were forfeit and for distribution among James' hungry followers. "The English Lord Lieutenant, Sir Arthur Chichester, and the Attorney General, Sir John Davies, were the instruments, under James, for giving effect to the great Plantation. The lands of the six counties of Donegal, Derry (then called Coleraine), Tyrone, Fermanagh, Cavan and Armagh - four million acres - were confiscated. (The lands of the three remaining Ulster counties, Antrim, Down and Manoaghan were bestowed upon Britons at other times.) The true owners, the natives, were driven like wild fowl or beasts, from the rich and fertile valleys of Ulster, which had been theirs from time immemorial, to the bogs and the moors and the barren crags - where it was hoped that they might starve and perish...." -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

"Trudy Fielding" <trcharly@sbcglobal.net> wrote..................... >Can you give me a quick lesson on why the Scotts and the English went to >Ulster? What happened before the 1798 rebellion that Irish lands were given >to others?? I have my Fielding family I think on a list from Carlow going to >Quebec in 1817 but I don't why they were in Ireland in the 1st place. >........... See my website for info on the Plantation and this subject below; www.angelfire.com/my/tray THE MODERN NOBILITY OF CORK AND KERRY; Or Desmond In the county Cork the following have been the noble families, since the reign of King John: De Courcy, barons of Kinsale and Ringrone; Fitzgerald, earls of Desmond, barons of Decies, and seneschals of Imokilly; Fielding, earls of Denbigh in England, has the title of earls of Desmond...........................................

John Charles Crowley 11/25/1883

Looking for birth of John Crowley circa November 1883 parents are Daniel Crowley and Elizabeth Flavin. Also the birth of elizabeth flavin august 1864 to Jeremiah Flavin and Ellen Dooley. I am not 100% sold that elizabeth was her birth name. Any help would be appreicated. Probably looking at cork or waterford areas. thanks

Hi Jean: This work is a *must read* for anyone researching in Ireland whether it be Limerick et al. I have read Frank McCORT's books also have "Angela's Ashes" on CD & have gone thru both more than once. I agree, you definitely '...weep & roar...' @ the same time. Bev

Pat- Can you give me a quick lesson on why the Scotts and the English went to Ulster? What happened before the 1798 rebellion that Irish lands were given to others?? I have my Fielding family I think on a list from Carlow going to Quebec in 1817 but I don't why they were in Ireland in the 1st place. Or you can point to a history book?-I've been reading up on the Vikings and the Crusades to learn about people migrations. Learning about the mini Ice age the world had in 1200 to 1850 has really helped in my understanding of the migrations. Also there was terrible weather in 1816-17 that caused a huge migration of people who went mostly south or to the new lands in the West. In that year there was no summer because of volcano eruption in the Pacific that put up so much ash the sun was shut out and that meant all the crops failed. The History Channel has been running a 2 hr show that is very interesting. Also is there any public listing of early W Methodists in Ireland? Thanks very much, Trudy -----Original Message----- From: Pat Connors [mailto:nymets11@pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:51 AM To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRELAND] County Armagh website The Ireland Genealogy Projects, County Armagh website has been updated. The following new town(land) pages have been added or updated: Ballnagolan, Brootally, Camagh, Carrickabolie, Carryhugh, Cormeen, Dernalea, Derryhennet, Drumacanver, Drumgar, Drumgreenagh, Drumhirk, Farnaloy, Kilcreevy Etra & Otra, Derryhirk, Clare, Aughlish, Ballysheil More, Killyreavy, Knockrevan, Lisdrumbrughas, Lisglynn, Lissagally, Maddan, Maghery Kilcrany, Mowillin, Tamlaght, Tullycallidy, Tullyhirm, Roughan, Lislea, Listarkelt, Mullyard, Rowan, Tivnacree, Cargalisgorran, Crossbane, Crossreagh, Doohat, Drumherney, Drummeland, Drumnahavil, Fergot, Cordrummond. Also a new webpage for the Derrynoose Civil Parish has been added. If you have an requests, comments, additions and/or corrections to this site, please write me off list. You can find the website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirarm2/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/

Mary Pat---Thanks so much for trying. Regards--Toni mcCarthy -----Original Message----- From: CMARYPATC@aol.com [mailto:CMARYPATC@aol.com] Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:11 PM To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Lookup---McCarthy I recently discovered that JOHN McCARTHY b.1835 Co. Cork Married---Nora?Jane?Johanne? HENRY 1864-- b.Abt. 1835 -Her Father was Patrick Henry !st child-Winifred b. 1864 Ireland Patrick b.1865 in Ireland Marriages with McCarthy start in 1847 to 1861 Marriages with Mc Carthy start in 1847 to 1862 Births with Mc Carthy over 2600 from 1865 to 1875 Only Winifred born 1869 to James Mc Carthy/Mary Shea Births with McCarthy only 3 show in 1869 No connection No births for Winifred ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/