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    1. Anne SULLIVAN (Limerick Roots) -- Helen KELLER's "Wild Irish Rose"
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: Remarkable Anne SULLIVAN was to give Helen KELLER her cheerful spirit and perseverance as well as teaching her Braille and guiding her to understandable speech. (See Ms. KELLER's letter below). Their relationship is explored in the extraordinary film, "The Miracle Worker." Afflicted with poor sight herself, teacher Anne SULLIVAN(1866-1936), daughter of immigrants from Co. Limerick, arrived from Boston to meet the extremely wild and unruly 7-year-old Helen Adams KELLER (1880-1968) to help her conquer her physical handicaps. A serious illness, which was diagnosed as brain fever, had destroyed Helen's sight and hearing before she was two, leaving the beautiful little girl unable to communicate with others. (Helen was born in Tuscumbia, Alabama). Anne SULLIVAN was able to make contact with the girl's mind through the sense of touch. She worked out an alphabet of sorts by which she spelled out words on Helen's hand. Gradually, the child was able to connect words!with objects. Helen also "listened" to others speak by putting her middle finger on the speaker's nose, forefinger on the lips, and thumb on the larynx. Helen learned to speak herself and by the time she was 16, she could speak we! ll enough to go to preparatory school and to Radcliffe college, from which she was graduated in 1904 with honors. Anne SULLIVAN stayed with Helen through these years, interpreting lectures and class discussions to her. The two women remained companions even after SULLIVAN married John A. MACY. When Anne died, Mary Agnes "Polly" THOMSON (1885-1950), who had been Miss KELLER's secretary, took her place. After college, Helen KELLER became concerned with the conditions of the blind and deaf-blind and became active on the staffs of the American Foundation for the Blind and of the American Foundation for Overseas Blind. She appeared before legislatures, gave lectures, and wrote books (including autobiographies) and articles and traveled to 25 countries promoting better conditions for the handicapped. During WWII, Helen worked for soldiers who had been blinded in the war and received many honors from governments all over the world. Helen wrote a letter to an acquaintance in November of 1935 describing her meetings with two renowned operatic tenors - John McCORMACK (1884-1945), and Enrico CARUSO (1873-1921) and "hearing" them sing by feeling the vibrations of their voices. Excerpts from letter -- "Once we happened to be at the hotel where McCormack was staying. His publicity man arranged to have him sing "My Wild Irish Rose" for me. A number of the singer's friends and ours were gathered in the sitting-room for the performance. I was all expectation and excitement. My fingers were on his lips, but no sound came from them for several seconds. Then he cried, "I can't, I can't" his tears wet my hand, and turning away he ran into his bedroom. I loved him for that tenderness which seemed to me the flower of the Irish heart. How different Caruso was when we met under similar circumstances! ... When I entered his room, Caruso was being shaved. A pretty girl was manicuring his nails... "Ah! you have come," Caruso said, and seized my two hands and clapped them on his great chest, which was bare, and with almost terrifying intensity burst into Samson's lament over his blindness. I never dreamed that a human chest could expand as his did, nor that a throat could emit such a volume of sound. ....To come back to "My Wild Irish Rose," I love it because I remember my teacher as a wild Irish rose when she came to me. It is no hyperbole to say that when I touched that rose, happiness skipped to my side. The wild-rose tells a wondrous story in my life of growth and beauty. Its perfume is the fragrance of God's Goodness and of a Love that passeth knowledge... Helen"

    12/23/2005 02:00:16
    1. "The Angel's Whisper" -- Samuel LOVER (1797-1868)
    2. Jean R.
    3. In Ireland, when a child smiles in its sleep, it is said to be "talking with angels." THE ANGEL'S WHISPER A baby was sleeping, Its mother was weeping, For her husband was far on the wild raging sea; And the tempest was swelling Round the fisherman's dwelling, And she cried, "Dermot, darling, oh! come back to me." Her beads while she number'd, The baby still slumber'd, And smiled in her face as she bended her knee; "Oh blest be that warning, My child's sleep adorning, For I know that the angels are whispering with thee. "And while they are keeping Bright watch o'er thy sleeping, Oh, pray to them softly, my baby, with me And say thou wouldst rather They'd watch o'er thy father! For I know that the angels are whispering with thee." The dawn of the morning Saw Dermot returning, And the wife wept with joy her babe's father to see; And closely caressing Her child, with a blessing, Said, "I knew that the angels were whispering with thee." -- Samuel Lover (1797-1868)

    12/23/2005 01:28:22
    1. Re: [IRELAND] Cunningham name in Pa.
    2. Suzann Bennett
    3. Hi Ruth, I grew up north of Pittsburgh, PA, in New Castle. I believe I also have some Cunningham's in my ancestry. I know of a Cunningham funeral home in New Castle - no relation to me. Where are your Cunningham's from? Sue Reno, NV Ruth <nrhundley@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Hi, Where in Pa. is the name located as we had the name north of Pittsburg and a cousin has info on them. We need to narrow down who specifically, as John was a common name here. Thanks, Ruth in IL ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/

    12/22/2005 03:53:47
    1. Cunningham name in Pa.
    2. Ruth
    3. Hi, Where in Pa. is the name located as we had the name north of Pittsburg and a cousin has info on them. We need to narrow down who specifically, as John was a common name here. Thanks, Ruth in IL

    12/22/2005 10:12:57
    1. RE: [IRELAND] Cunningham name in Pa.
    2. Trudy Fielding
    3. This is all I have: Here's what I have for my Ross family as written by my G Grandma: Cunningham & Samuel Ross were brothers-sons of Son Ross and Mary Craig-John Ross was the son of John Ross Sr. who was born in Belfast Irleand and came to PA in 1778. He married Jenette Irwin and they had 11 Children. Moved to Warren Co Ohio in 1812. John Ross Jr. had the following children: David Irwin who died at 26yrs. 1843 Nancy Jane who died at 22 years 1842 Cunningham who died at 62 years 1887 Joseph his twin died at birth 1825 John Ross-3rd. died at 22 years 1845 Samuel A who died at 78 yrs 1905 Mary Katherine who died at 3 years 1831 Robert Ludwell who died at 5 months 1839 The Father died in 1844. Mary Craig lived with our grandfather Samuel until 1885. The Rosses, Craigs and Irwins were all Scotch living in No Ireland. You know our Grandmother Sarah Ann Emery was Mary Jane Emery's sister and you know our Grand Father Samuel was Cunningham's brother. So Mother & Aunt Sue were double cousins. I have found out a lot about the Rosses & Emerys now. Cunningham lived with Henry & Ett until his death after Aunt Jane left him On the back of this is an old genealogy form with: Cunningham Ross b 5-3-1825 In Warren Co Ohio Mother Mary Craig- Father John Ross died 9-28-1887 in Madison Co Iowa Wife is Mary Jane Emery b 2-5-1825 in Clermont Co Ohio Died 7-11-1909 in Red Rock OK buried in Winterset Iowa Father was Henry Emery Mother Susannah Ramsey Children: Silas b in Clermont Co Ohio married a Florence lived in Colorado Henry E b 1855 Knox Co Ill died 1-11-1934 Married Etta Guilliams in 1880 Isabelle Susan b 8-29-1852 Clermont Co Ohio died 5-17-1936 Married William Queen- (This is my line) John David b ? betw 1869-1852 Married Emma Jones Perry b 1868 Madison Co Iowa married Ruby Stout Sarah A ( Sally) 7-16-1847 Clermont Ohio Married Jonah Nicholson Marietta Died when 14 Madison Co Iowa And lastly: Some else wrote a short history on card: John Ross Sr married Jeanette Irwin John Ross Jr. Married Mary Craig daughter of David Craig and Catherine Cunningham Cunningham Ross Married Mary Jane Emery Susan Isabelle Ross Married William Hensen Queen Arthur Queen Married Viola Brooks Bros. Cunningham Ross & Samuel Ross Sisters Mary Jane Emery & Sarah Ann Emery Samuel & Sarah Ross had Minta -----Original Message----- From: Ruth [mailto:nrhundley@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:13 PM To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRELAND] Cunningham name in Pa. Hi, Where in Pa. is the name located as we had the name north of Pittsburg and a cousin has info on them. We need to narrow down who specifically, as John was a common name here. Thanks, Ruth in IL ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/

    12/22/2005 08:32:44
    1. Cunningham name
    2. The Gaelic spelling is O Cuinneagáin which means descendant of Conn Per Ida Grehan - The Dictionary of Irish Family Names there was a branch of this family in Connacht, and she says that a history of this branch was published in The Bell in January of 1943. There are a lot of Cunninghams in Northern Ireland, too, who probably came from Scotland. Other spellings are Kinahan and Conyngham. Gobnait Ní Leocháin Genealogy: Confusing the dead & irritating the living. "Mr Bloom walked unheeded along his grove by saddened angels, crosses, broken pillars, family vaults, stone hopes praying with upcast eyes, old Ireland's hearts and hands. More sensible to spend the money on some charity for the living. Pray for the repose of the soul of. Does anybody really?"

    12/21/2005 01:18:09
    1. RE: C D Lookup Martin Mitchell
    2. Judy, Thanks so much for the information on Martin Mitchell. I'm going to send for the Mt Bellew birth record and see if there is a clue as to the actual location of the birth. You've been a big help. Happy Holidays, Eileen

    12/21/2005 11:10:29
    1. RE: [IRELAND] Cunningham name
    2. Trudy Fielding
    3. Are your Cunninghams Scott-Irish? Mine are. Trudy -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Peregrine [mailto:nancyperegrine@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:46 PM To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Cunningham name I have Cunningham ancestors in Doon, Co Limerick. The Limerick & Tipperary counties Goldenpages phonebook (www.eircom.ie) has 1 1/4 columns of Cunninghams currently. If you can find a death certificate, obituary or gravestone for a Cunningham descendant in this country, it may mention place of origen. Happy hunting! Nancy Karen <diggingupbones@cfl.rr.com> wrote: I just joined your Ireland list and find it fascinating. I am wondering if any one can tell me if there was a certain part of Ireland that the name Cunningham was found about 1750-1800? Recently we have proven a connection to a John M Cunningham and his wife Catharine Conrad to our family. His son - John Cunningham, said his father was from Ireland and his mother had German heritage. They both settled in Pennsylvania, in the United States in the very early 1800's - and before 1818 for sure. I don't know if they married in Ireland or met and married in the US. The son John was born in 1818 and said he was born in PA. I can not find any actual written records of John M. and Catharine other than early census records in the US which didn't list all the names before 1850. Did find that John M left a will in 1868, however did not mention his children - some whom had already died. Can any one tell me where to start hunting for them in Ireland? It probably was a pretty common name, however I don't have a clue as to where to look when not researching in the United States. Thank you for your help and I really do enjoy your mail list! I've already learned a lot from it. Karen in Florida, US ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/

    12/21/2005 09:20:37
    1. Re: [IRELAND] Cunningham name
    2. Nancy Peregrine
    3. I have Cunningham ancestors in Doon, Co Limerick. The Limerick & Tipperary counties Goldenpages phonebook (www.eircom.ie) has 1 1/4 columns of Cunninghams currently. If you can find a death certificate, obituary or gravestone for a Cunningham descendant in this country, it may mention place of origen. Happy hunting! Nancy Karen <diggingupbones@cfl.rr.com> wrote: I just joined your Ireland list and find it fascinating. I am wondering if any one can tell me if there was a certain part of Ireland that the name Cunningham was found about 1750-1800? Recently we have proven a connection to a John M Cunningham and his wife Catharine Conrad to our family. His son - John Cunningham, said his father was from Ireland and his mother had German heritage. They both settled in Pennsylvania, in the United States in the very early 1800's - and before 1818 for sure. I don't know if they married in Ireland or met and married in the US. The son John was born in 1818 and said he was born in PA. I can not find any actual written records of John M. and Catharine other than early census records in the US which didn't list all the names before 1850. Did find that John M left a will in 1868, however did not mention his children - some whom had already died. Can any one tell me where to start hunting for them in Ireland? It probably was a pretty common name, however I don't have a clue as to where to look when not researching in the United States. Thank you for your help and I really do enjoy your mail list! I've already learned a lot from it. Karen in Florida, US ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/

    12/21/2005 07:45:57
    1. Cunningham name
    2. Karen
    3. I just joined your Ireland list and find it fascinating. I am wondering if any one can tell me if there was a certain part of Ireland that the name Cunningham was found about 1750-1800? Recently we have proven a connection to a John M Cunningham and his wife Catharine Conrad to our family. His son - John Cunningham, said his father was from Ireland and his mother had German heritage. They both settled in Pennsylvania, in the United States in the very early 1800's - and before 1818 for sure. I don't know if they married in Ireland or met and married in the US. The son John was born in 1818 and said he was born in PA. I can not find any actual written records of John M. and Catharine other than early census records in the US which didn't list all the names before 1850. Did find that John M left a will in 1868, however did not mention his children - some whom had already died. Can any one tell me where to start hunting for them in Ireland? It probably was a pretty common name, however I don't have a clue as to where to look when not researching in the United States. Thank you for your help and I really do enjoy your mail list! I've already learned a lot from it. Karen in Florida, US

    12/21/2005 07:28:08
    1. RE: [IRELAND] Cunningham name
    2. Trudy Fielding
    3. I have a John Cunningham from PA too! Contact me at trcharly@sbcglobal.net Trudy -----Original Message----- From: Karen [mailto:diggingupbones@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:28 AM To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRELAND] Cunningham name I just joined your Ireland list and find it fascinating. I am wondering if any one can tell me if there was a certain part of Ireland that the name Cunningham was found about 1750-1800? Recently we have proven a connection to a John M Cunningham and his wife Catharine Conrad to our family. His son - John Cunningham, said his father was from Ireland and his mother had German heritage. They both settled in Pennsylvania, in the United States in the very early 1800's - and before 1818 for sure. I don't know if they married in Ireland or met and married in the US. The son John was born in 1818 and said he was born in PA. I can not find any actual written records of John M. and Catharine other than early census records in the US which didn't list all the names before 1850. Did find that John M left a will in 1868, however did not mention his children - some whom had already died. Can any one tell me where to start hunting for them in Ireland? It probably was a pretty common name, however I don't have a clue as to where to look when not researching in the United States. Thank you for your help and I really do enjoy your mail list! I've already learned a lot from it. Karen in Florida, US ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/

    12/21/2005 06:07:41
    1. Re: CLENDINNING Ireland
    2. david dowd
    3. Dear Cathy, just a quick note to say the Glendennings (most common spelling) originally came from Glendinning (glyn din gwyn 'glen of the fair hill', evidence that there was a local enclave of Britons after the Scots invasion from Ireland) a tiny place in Westerkirk, Dumfriesshire, and settled in Antrim and Tyrone in the early 17th century, where the name remains common. Adam de Glendonwyn is recorded in 1286 (C.F. Black 'The Surnames of Scotland', New York, 1946). Other variants are Glendening, Glendinning, Clendenin, Clendening, Clendennen, Clendenon, Clendinning, and Clindening (the Cl- spelling often in Ireland). Due to Irish immigration the early Glendennings of Liverpool (who had presumably come south from Scotland) were joined by Clendennins and Clendennings. I expect you know that the full name of Oscar Hammerstein (of "Rogers and Hammerstein" fame) was Oscar Greenley Clendenning Hammerstein II! Regards, David

    12/21/2005 01:21:07
    1. CLENDINNING/CLENDINNEN/GLENDINNING in Ireland
    2. cathy carley
    3. GDAY:) Im researching my Direct Line of CLENDINNENS That came from Ireland...Originally Spelt GLENDINNING In Scotland, Came over to Co Down and I think also Co Derry.. Im very Interested in the Co Derry Lot in Particular and wonder if they connect to my Co Down Lot...Some of My Lot were Preachers and Medicos.. Some went to Co Wexford, Some to Canada/Australia etc Anyone researching these lot thru Ireland Thankyou:) Regards from Australia Cathy:) Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

    12/21/2005 12:57:15
    1. History/Valentia Island's Search and Rescue Community (Kerry)
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: "When you've grown up with the sea, joining the Coast Guard isn't something you have to think twice about," Eoin O'CONNOR, a Valentia Unit volunteer explains. Researchers may be interested in an eight-page story by Pol O Conghaile, photos by Kim Haughton, of the Valencia search and rescue community in the Nov-Dec 2002 issue of "Ireland of the Welcomes" periodical. We tend to take for granted the dedication and loyalty of those who work as part of the Irish Coastguard and Lifeboat Services patrolling our shorelines. Those who come quickly and unselfishly to the rescue of sailors and swimmers unfortunate enough to get in trouble in the seas around the coast deserve our gratitude. Member and volunteer training includes first aid, resuscitation and radio procedure. Regular search and rescue exercises also involve abseiling down the side of a cliff in a harness on the edge of the ring of Kerry near Knightstown, Valentia Island As Richard ROBINSON writes in 'Emergency Kerry Coast' -- "For on their vigilance depends the question of effective and timely rescue, or no rescue at all." The tumultuous seas out west brew up one of the world's most dangerous search and rescue environments. Last year, Valentia responded to 593 incidents, assisting and saving 2,288 lives. Above the lighthouse at Cromwell Point, a belligerent sun muscled with the clouds, makes Kerry beautiful. On the go in various guises since 1822, many of Ireland's coastal units have traditionally drawn from the local community. That has changed to some degree, but you'll still come across names that go back generations. Valentia is no different. By a quiet, algae-strewn slipway on Knightstown Pier, the 'Rowland Watts' lies rotting. A hulking Barnet class boat, saviour of 132 lives before she was decommissioned in 1982, today she is a tired old shell, a playground for birds. Around her, nets, pots, tyres and steel are piled in bundles; an elderly couples is seen painting hulls. It cost 2,000 pounds to buy this old workhorse from the fish farm in which she played out her days; money raised by volunteers hoping, over time, to make her the centrepiece of a new maritime museum on Valentia Island. A vision is to link the young lifesavers of today with yellowing photographs of stern-faced men from the past. Originally known as 'Oilean Dairbhre' (Island of the Oaks), Valentia's responsibilities to the Irish Search and Rescue community include that of being one of 52 outposts comprising the Irish Coast Guard and, together with Malin Head and Dublin, her Marine Rescue Sub-Centre (MRSC) is one of three co-coordinating search and rescue safety awareness, pollution and salvage operations in their associated areas. This Kerry island was a haven to seafarers on a rugged coast marked on the earliest maps of Europe. Valentia has always remained synonymous with communication. It was from here that a telegraph weather report was despatched to London in 1862; from here, the first transatlantic cable was cast out in 1866, and, when the coastal radio station in Crookhaven, in neighbouring Co. Cork, closed in 1914, it was transferred to Valentia. The story of changing technology brought great improvements but also some sadness. On the morning of Feb 1, 1999, the final sentence of the last Morse Code message transmitted from this island left Kerry. "This is Valentia Radio (EJK) signing off on wireless telegraph. Slan libh go leir." From 'Lusitania' in 1915 to the tragic Fastnet yacht race of 1974, Samuel Morse's musical language had saved countless lives off the Irish coast. Driving from Dohilla to Knightstown, Area Office Michael O'CONNOR exemplifies the sense of heritage that has contrived to make Valentia's role in Irish coastal safety a central one. His grandfather served as a volunteer with the IRCG, as do two of his sons. He was awarded a Bronze Medal for his part in the rescue of eleven Spanish fishermen from 'Big Cat' - a trawler which ran aground at Beginish Island in 1989. Researchers might also be interested in Richard ROBINSON's book, 'Emergency: Kerry Coast."

    12/20/2005 07:57:33
    1. "Girl Of The Red Mouth" -- Dublin-born Martin MacDERMOTT (1823-1905)
    2. Jean R.
    3. GIRL OF THE RED MOUTH Girl of the red mouth, Love me! Love me! Girl of the red mouth, Love me! 'Tis by its curve, I know, Love fashioneth his bow, And bends it -- ah, even so! Oh, girl of the red mouth, love me! Girl of the blue eye, Love me! Love me! Girl of the dew eye, Love me! Worlds hang for lamps on high; And thought's world lives in thy Lustrous and tender eye -- Oh, girl of the blue eye, love me! Girl of the swan's neck, Love me! Love me! Girl of the swan's neck, Love me! As a marble Greek doth grow To his steed's back of snow, Thy white neck sits thy shoulder so -- Oh, girl of the swan's neck, love me! Girl of the low voice, Love me! Love me! Girl of the sweet voice, Love me! Like the echo of a bell -- Like the bubbling of a well -- Sweeter! Love within doth dwell -- Oh, girl of the low voice, love me! -- Martin MacDermott (1823-1905)

    12/20/2005 07:13:19
    1. Re: [IRELAND] CLENDINNING/CLENDINNEN/GLENDINNING in Ireland
    2. Direct Line of CLENDINNENS That came from Ireland... Gave you the Ireland finds, too many in the other countries without more specific details GOod Luck, MaryPat Scotland 13870 hits starting in 1603 to 1901 England 325 hits starting in 1625 tp 1905 Ireland 8 hits starting in 1868 to 1874 GLENDINNING, Albert Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 1 Jun 1868 Birthplace: 232, City Of Derry, Derry, Ire Recorded in: Londonderry, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: William GLENDINNING Mother: Jane MILLIGAN Source: FHL Film 101166 Dates: 1868 - 1869 GLENDINNING, Elizabeth Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 17 Sep 1869 Birthplace: 183, City Of Derry, Derry, Ire Recorded in: Londonderry, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: William GLENDINNING Mother: Jane RODGERS Source: FHL Film 101196 Dates: 1869 - 1870 GLENDINNING, Maria Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 13 Sep 1869 Birthplace: 202, Claudy, Derry, Ire Recorded in: Londonderry, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: James GLENDINNING Mother: Jane PIGOTT Source: FHL Film 101191 Dates: 1869 - 1870 GLENDINNING, Bessy Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 20 Dec 1871 Birthplace: 220,claudy,derry,ire Recorded in: Londonderry, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: James GLENDINNING Mother: Jane PIGOTT Source: FHL Film 255833 Dates: 1871 - 1872 GLENDENING, John Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 5 Apr 1872 Birthplace: Galway No 1, Gal, Ire Recorded in: Galway, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: William GLENDENING Mother: Jane ROGERS Source: FHL Film 255854 Dates: 1871 - 1873 GLENDENNING, Emma Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 19 Jul 1874 Birthplace: Galway No 1, Gal, Ire Recorded in: Galway, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: William GLENDENNING Mother: Jane ROGERS Source: FHL Film 255911 Dates: 1874 - 1874

    12/20/2005 10:22:54
    1. Re: [IRELAND] MAGINLEY
    2. Bev Thomson
    3. Hello David: A most sincere thank you for your response & the info that you furnished re Gr. Orange Order. I specially appreciate the add. for the order, I certainly will contact them. You mention that I should know, in particular, what religion my people of interest were. They were Protestant, Luthern sect I believe as that was the religion of choice for entire family after immigr. into USA in 1864 but finding church records in Ireland seems mostly impossible w/out having a County to refer to (that is no doubt my biggest stumbling block) Sorry for rambling but it is so very easy to get carried away. Again thank you so much for your help. Bev.

    12/20/2005 06:27:05
    1. RE: C D Lookup Martin Mitchell
    2. I would very much appreciate a lookup for information on birth/baptism of Martin Mitchell b abt 1865 in Galway with father John mother unknown. Area would probably be Windfield, Menlough, Mount Bellew or Moylough. Thank you, Eileen

    12/20/2005 04:57:29
    1. Re: [IRELAND] RE: C D Lookup Martin Mitchell
    2. Eileen, This could be a possibility. MITCHELL, Martin Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 18 Nov 1866 Birthplace: 437, Mt Bellew, Gal, Ire Recorded in: Galway, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John MITCHELL Mother: Margaret MOORE Source: FHL Film 101138 Dates: 1866 - 1867 MITCHELL, Martin Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 6 Oct 1867 Birthplace: 19, Ahascragh, Gal, Ire Recorded in: Galway, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John MITCHELL Mother: Mary GLYNN Source: FHL Film 101158 Dates: 1866 - 1867 Judy

    12/20/2005 03:23:58
    1. Re: [IRELAND] MAGINLEY
    2. david dowd
    3. Hi Bev, I know little of recent Irish political history, but the Grand Orange Order was founded almost immediately after the (Civil) Battle of the Diamond, 1795, where the Catholics were defeated at Cranagill Hill (the military keeping a low profile). Their first headquarters were at Sloan's Inn, Loughgall (in Armagh) and early membership was mainly labouring or artisan class, though some 'nobs' did join. Parliament in London was equivocal, on the one hand they needed loyal Irish support, on the other they thought Orange Order demonstrations would further exacerbate the tensions. Your date of 1843 was during the period when public demonstrations (either Catholic or Orange) were banned. Obviously today their activities are limited to Northern Ireland (and Donegal, home of the MaGinleys, is just outside) but until Partition they were widespread. You really need to know (perhaps from church records) if your MaGinley was a Protestant. The Orange Order does not hold central records, and many of their local records have been destroyed by the Catholics. None-the-less, if you contact them on www.grandorange.org.uk they will do their best to answer genealogical questions. So, yes, the MaGinleys were centred on a county in the north of Ireland, but politically today that county is outside Northern Ireland which makes me think it was too strongly Catholic to be included in loyalist Protestant Ireland. Regards, David

    12/20/2005 02:11:05