_http://freebmd.rootsweb.com_ (http://freebmd.rootsweb.com) It's the birth, marriage & death indexes You can either view the images (like 1837.com) or search (like Ancestry.com) but whereas you will pay to join 1837, this one is free. Ancestry has a joining fee but you can access birth, marriage & deaths without having to join If you haven't been on the site before, there is an advert for Ancestry at the top of the page which isn't what you're looking for. Just scroll down the page till you find the buttons. Good luck Teresa

In addition to the site mentioned by Teresa here are a few more BMD/C Free Sites Suggest you Bookmark the following If you are interested they are looking for volunteers to transcribe and submissions by List Users. Scotland Free BMD http://www.sctbdm.com/ UK Free Census Main Site http://www.freecen.org.uk/ UK Free REG Project http://freereg.rootsweb.com/ Scotland/Mid Lothian Pages http://www.users.waitrose.com/~census/ Scotland Free Census http://www.freewebs.com/mmjeffery/index.htm There are No overall sites for Free BMD or Census in Ireland that I am aware of. England and Wales Free BMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Bob Cdn ======================================= ========================================= Teri100@aol.com wrote: <SNIP> _http://freebmd.rootsweb.com_ (http://freebmd.rootsweb.com) It's the birth, marriage & death indexes

What is "FreeVMD"?????? -----Original Message----- From: Teri100@aol.com [mailto:Teri100@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 4:49 AM To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Surname puzzle Hi A big thank you to the people who helped me with my surname puzzle. It made me re-think & even more determined to solve the riddle. I managed to find her marriage (which I'd come to the conclusion didn't exist) on Ancestry & FreeBMD which both gave her surname as [HK] ect_up. I then went through the images on FreeBMD until I found the entry I was looking for "Bridget Hectrup". I have ordered a copy of the certificate to make sure that it is the marriage I'm looking for, but I'm positive it is. Thanks again, I may not have solved this without the inspiration you gave me Best wishes Teresa ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/

Could the two letters following what I think is an "H" be really an "a" kind of stretched out??? Hatrop? hiflyte wrote: > Is the first letter of the name an "H" xx c/etrop > Bob > ========== > Trudy Fielding wrote: > >> Could be Bamber too! >> Trudy >> >> >> >> >> > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup > volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ > >

Hi A big thank you to the people who helped me with my surname puzzle. It made me re-think & even more determined to solve the riddle. I managed to find her marriage (which I'd come to the conclusion didn't exist) on Ancestry & FreeBMD which both gave her surname as [HK] ect_up. I then went through the images on FreeBMD until I found the entry I was looking for "Bridget Hectrup". I have ordered a copy of the certificate to make sure that it is the marriage I'm looking for, but I'm positive it is. Thanks again, I may not have solved this without the inspiration you gave me Best wishes Teresa

I am getting plenty of email from this site and others. AOL doesn't seem to bother my email.

The US Census and England Census have several Bamrick's from Ireland.

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In a message dated 03/02/2006 18:22:40 GMT Standard Time, Wallbilt@aol.com writes: attach original as scan doc then we can all take a shot at the H or I, pete Hi Pete Thanks, my scanner isn't working at the moment so I've uploaded it to the Kodak Gallery site, if anyone's willing to take a look. I've included both certificates, although one is clearer than the other. Any suggestions would be very gratefully received. Thanks again Teresa You're invited to view these photos online at Kodak Easyshare Gallery! Just click on View Photos to get started. http://www.kodakgallery.co.uk/I.jsp?c=fchz8ix.f846ht9&x=0&h=1&y=fxl3il If you'd like to save this album, just sign in, or if you're new to the Gallery, create a free account. Once you've signed in, you'll be able to view this album whenever you want and order Kodak prints of your favorite photos. Enjoy! Instructions: Click view photos to begin. If you're an existing member you'll be asked to sign in. If not, you can join the Gallery for free. http://www.kodakgallery.co.uk/Register.jsp Questions? Visit http://help.kodakgallery.co.uk. ------------------------------------------------------------ EASYSHARE Gallery Customer Service http://help.kodakgallery.co.uk/support Phone: 0845 3001809 Kingsfordweg 151 1043 GR Amsterdam The Netherlands ------------------------------------------------------------ If you cannot see the links above, copy and paste the following URL directly into your browser: http://www.kodakgallery.co.uk/I.jsp?c=fchz8ix.f846ht9&x=0&h=1&y=fxl3il

Hi Each and everyone of you are wonderful to help me on the Brickwall Thank you The first letter is B Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "hiflyte" <hiflyte@telus.net> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Bamrooh > Is the first letter of the name an "H" xx c/etrop > Bob > ========== > Trudy Fielding wrote: > >>Could be Bamber too! >>Trudy >> >> >> > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup > volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ > >

Listers, are there online 'Ship's Passenger list?" i'm wanting to try & trace a new name that a relative told me about. they told me ourlast name was not MOORE, but either O'MOORE--OMOORE--O'MOHR. from IRELAND during the "Potato Famine" of 1846-50. i'm hoping to get a lead on eitther my g-great grand parents, or great grandparents. due to the secretive non-talking old fols i can't get past gramp's. was there any migratory route a lot of IRISH took when they came here?. i'm wondering if my great uncle who stated in 3 censuses he was born in 1861 in MO. thats a ways from east TN which is our roots & where he was raised, married, died. thanks for any tips. Ray Moore. as we are raised. DNA done. STEVE MOORE a 25 marker. at family tree.com D629W. at ysearch MOORE DNA PROJECT M36142 mine a 12 marker at familytree.com FYN8F . ysearch MOORE DNA M30219 now researching O'MOORE-OMOORE-O'MOHR Researching: MOORE, ,MOOR. MOHR. MAYES, MAYS, MAZE, MIZE, MAISE, MAIZE, CARR, COX, COURTNEY, MYERS, TOWNSLEY, POWERS, GRUBBS, GRUBB, POE, (SMITH 4 lines) RUSSELL, LEWIS, DUNN, WHITEAKER, WHITAKER, REECE, HUNDLEY/HUNLEY, MANIS, MOLES, NEWBY. PARKER, CHEATHAM,CHITTUM, BROWN, HAUN, OGLESBY, LONG, DUNN, SHIPLEY & VOWELL & ROSS, LIPPS, MOCK, SHIRLEY, PENDLEY, JORDON. my pages: http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore508/moore.htm Friends: PECK,LAMBERT,MEADOWS -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class

Try this link: http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/surname/index.cfm This will tell you were the names were most numerous around the time of Griffiths Valuation. I just tried your names and only found two Strands in Dublin, but Flood is all over the Ireland and appears most numerous in Co. Cavan. There's a good possiblity that this is where the name originated in Ireland. Good luck in your search. Mary Elizabeth RESEARCHING: McKERNAN/McKIERNAN in Co. Antrim and Co. Leitrim; McALLISTER in Co. Antrim; MULDOWNEY in Co. Kilkenny; and KEARNEY in Co. Louth --- Glenn and Sandra Matheson <gsbm2@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hello List, > Two of my family going on census information from > Manchester were born in > Ireland. They seem to be rare names and I wonder if > anyone could point me in > the right direction as to where in Ireland I might > start looking. I realise > this is a vague question but I would be grateful for > any help, > Thank you, > Sandy > Australia > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, > links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your > subscription from L to D or D to L > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Dear Teri, though one shouldn't speculate on a name's origin with no documentation, I'm going to anyway. It looks like a surname derived from a place-name. 1a) Assume the Hee- is correct, this could be pronounced as, and derived from, Hey- 1b) Assume -trop is a version of -throp so version 1) comes from some place like Heythrop in Oxfordshire 2) Assume the name starts with Fleet- or Flet- (erm, I don't any Fleet places ending in anything that would suit and the Flet- places are all Fletch-). So, even though I would plump for the Oxfordshire name, it does not rule out an Irish origin as, during the Plantation times (late 16th century), many English families were encouraged to settle in Ireland to displace the Catholic Irish Teri100@aol.com wrote: >Hi > >Please could anyone tell me if they are aware of a surname like Heetrop? >The H could be Fl & the e's could be anything (even just one letter), but >the rest does look like trop. > >I have two birth certificates with the surname but I can't work it out, I >believe that she came from Ireland (taken from census info). > >If anyone has any ideas I'd be most grateful. > >thanks >Teresa > > >==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== >Ireland Mailing List website..surname registry, links, lookup volunteers,unsubscribe, change your subscription from L to D or D to L http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ > > > > >

Is the first letter of the name an "H" xx c/etrop Bob ========== Trudy Fielding wrote: >Could be Bamber too! >Trudy > > > > >

Hi Mary Elizabeth Thanks for the reply, what a great website, I haven't found a match for my surname puzzle yet but I't's certainly a site worth knowing about. Best wishes Teresa

Hi Pete Thanks, I hadn't thought that the first letter could be T but as you said it does look similar to the T to the right of painter. You can't tell on the picture but it is the begining of "The mark of". The father's name does look like Adrienne but I think it's Edwin, spelt with two ns & with a squiggle on the end, I'm not sure why it's spelt like that, but on the other certificate he's down as Edward, (Edwin was the name I was looking for). Thank you so much for having a look, I'll try Threetop and see what I can come up with. Best wishes Teresa

Teresa, magnifying the photo assisted, looking at your first name it seems you're on the right track for I do believe in looking to the right of word 'painter' that the top line is beginning of more common spelling of your own name = Theresa. Going back to the H or I and comparing again to top left word to right of 'painter' clearly the word begins with letter T followed by letter H, inbetween is difficult but TROP seems to be the last 4 letters so you could have Threetop as family name. As for rest the father figure seems clearly to be ---- Adrienne Morley. good luck, pete

In a message dated 03/02/2006 18:22:40 GMT Standard Time, Wallbilt@aol.com writes: attach original as scan doc then we can all take a shot at the H or I, pete Hi Pete You don't have to sign in or register to view the photos, I've just looked at the e-mail & it indicates that you do, but there is a button to click to view without signing in. Hope this hasn't put anyone off. Thanks Teresa

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