SLIGO: The Irish emigrants fled a land of stunning beauty, which could no longer support their meager lives, to seek refuge in an unknown country across the perilous seas. Voyages were made from Sligo to New York. An account of this is found in "In Their Own Words, the Famine in North Connacht," by Liam SWORDS. This 490-page book published in 2000 contains diaries and letters of people leaving from the port of Sligo for NY during the famine years. There are passenger lists from these "coffin" ships and information on the important role of the Society of Friends (Quakers) during the famine. In the summer of 1847, 2,000 of LORD PALMERSTON's tenants sailed from Sligo and others were routed through Liverpool - all bound for Canada. Henry John TEMPLE, the THIRD VISCOUNT PALMERSTON, was very much an absentee landlord. As a career politician he was forced to spend all of his time in London. He became a cabinet minister in the British government as early as 1809, serving 15 years as Foreign Secretary, and later still, served two periods as Prime Minister. Unfortunately, the nine vessels carrying his former tenants from the port of Sligo were destined to join the ranks of the coffin ships and there was a subsequent uproar in Canada about the poor condition of the emigrants upon arrival. Protests flowed to the Colonial Secretary in London, and despite his lofty position in government, LORD PALMERSTON was officially asked for an explanation. Though ignorance should not be accepted as a deference, he deftly switched the blame to his Irish agents Messrs. KINCAID and STEWART, and their response, in a letter dated February 1, 1848 concluded: "The emigrants were unfortunately poor and without any means of support except what they could obtain by their labour, but that was their misfortune not their fault, and they were both able and willing to work for their bread and for the support of their family. Notwithstanding the reports from the authorities in Saint John and Quebec ... very favourable accounts arrive almost daily to their friends in this country from those who emigrated last year from LORD PALMERSTON's estate, and that already some of them have been able to send home money to their friends out of their earnings in the Colonies." LORD PALMERSTON was one of many who acted in much the same way. No one sought to deny that landlord emigration meant sending out of Ireland the tenants who were not wanted because they were too old or ill, or caused financial problems for their landlords, but good tenants who were young and healthy, who gave no trouble, who worked the land and paid their rents were apparently welcome to stay. There were many edges to the sword wielded by the absentee landlords, per Edward LAXTON in "The Famine Ships," pub. 1996.

"The Untold Story: The Irish In Canada" edited by Robert O'Driscoll and Lorna Reynolds, published in 1988 ISBN 0-921745-00-1 SNIPPET: Listers may be interested in the above-named book. Per review on other Irish list, one of the chapters is called "The Journal of Gerald KEEGAN that tells his sorrowful story of his leaving County Sligo with his new bride and other members of his family to journey to Canada during the famine. Gerald and Aileen marry April 9, 1847 and arrive in Dublin to supposedly embark the next day but are held up a week before they are allowed on board the ship. He faithfully pens his journal telling of all the hardships on the voyage. They don't arrive at Grosse Isle, Quebec until May 31 and are quarantined there. Gerald and his bride both perish there but one niece, Bridget, manages to recover from the horrid fever and makes her way to Gerald's uncle's in Huntingdon. This uncle goes back to Grosse Isle in an attempt to rescue Gerald but is unsuccessful, however, he does retrieve Gerald's journal, and escapes the fever himself, to return to his own family."

SNIPPET: Just got back this afternoon from seeing a marvelous film out of Ireland that everyone is talking about here in the States. "Are you looking for a little film you can make your own, an enchanting, unpretentious blend of music and romance you can watch forever? If you do, "Once" is about to come into your life and make it whole. The deserving winner of the world cinema dramatic audience award this year at Sundance, this Irish film is low-key in concept - "a simple, classic story of two artists falling in love" says writer-director John CARNEY - and thoroughly winning in execution. Its tone may be sweet and gentle, but it has the grit to resist going exactly where you'd expect it to. And it's the first film in years to mix music and story in a light-on-its-feet way that calls to mind Richard LESTER's much faster-paced Beatles classics. "Once" has a ton of melodic singer-songwriter music from Glen HANSARD, lead singer of the Irish group the Frames, and Marketa IRGLOVA, a young Czech musician he's collaborated with .... Once's" inevitably romantic plot is modern enough to shrewdly avoid ever playing out the way audiences will anticipate. For another, the music is so rich and completely satisfying and the characters so appealing "Once" makes us believe that this is all happening right in front of our eyes. We fall for each of these young people at the precise moment they are falling for each other, and what could be better than that?" Excerpts, review L. A. Times. (My note: Glen HANSARD (born Dublin, Ireland, 21 April,1970) is the vocalist and guitarist for Irish rock group The Frames. HANSARD quit school at age 13 to begin busking on local Dublin streets, which makes his role in this little moving little film so believable.)

Hi Brian, I would suggest that you try and access the 1901 Census for Ireland and that at least might give you a lead re location etc. The other possibility for checking is Griffiths Valuation which might yield some result. Regards Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Stoddart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 12:48 PM Subject: [IRELAND] John Sullivan > Hello Everyone > > I am new to this post and in search of some possible assistance. > > My gggfather was John Sullivan who married a Margaret Baker in Penzance, > Cornwall in 1843 > > He was listed as a mariner, born about 1820 in "Castletown, Ireland" > > He and his wife show up living in Penzance in the 1851 Census but then > disappear > > Their son George (who leaves for NZ in the 1870s) marries in Marazion, > Penzance in 1874 but there is no other sign of them there > > His own father, another John, was said to be a "master mariner" > > My problem will be fairly obvious - which Castletown was my gggfather born > in (given the seafaring, my uneducated guess is in either Louth or Cork) > and how do I track him and his father from there? I suppose the > possibilities are that my gggfather went back to Ireland after the 1851 > Census or emigrated somewhere else > > Any suggestions would be most welcome > > Many thanks > > Brian > > Professor Brian Stoddart > Writer, Consultant and Strategic Advisor > PO Box 928 > KYNETON > VIC 3444 > Australia > > 0418171983 mobile > + 61 418171983 International > > 03 54223238 Home > +61 3 54223238 International > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Everyone I am new to this post and in search of some possible assistance. My gggfather was John Sullivan who married a Margaret Baker in Penzance, Cornwall in 1843 He was listed as a mariner, born about 1820 in "Castletown, Ireland" He and his wife show up living in Penzance in the 1851 Census but then disappear Their son George (who leaves for NZ in the 1870s) marries in Marazion, Penzance in 1874 but there is no other sign of them there His own father, another John, was said to be a "master mariner" My problem will be fairly obvious - which Castletown was my gggfather born in (given the seafaring, my uneducated guess is in either Louth or Cork) and how do I track him and his father from there? I suppose the possibilities are that my gggfather went back to Ireland after the 1851 Census or emigrated somewhere else Any suggestions would be most welcome Many thanks Brian Professor Brian Stoddart Writer, Consultant and Strategic Advisor PO Box 928 KYNETON VIC 3444 Australia 0418171983 mobile + 61 418171983 International 03 54223238 Home +61 3 54223238 International [email protected]

Hi Brian - Hard to trace a common name such as John SULLIVAN. George SULLIVAN might be a bit easier. SULLIVAN is most often connected to the province of Munster. Perhaps you can locate some death notices, wills (oral history from living relatives) in the KNOWN places he lived to try and pin down an Irish county. It would be worthwhile, I would think, to hire a genealogist in the place he lived for a time to "jump start" your genealogy. Documents found should (hopefully!) point you in the right direction. Check out the all-Ireland IreAtlas townland search engine at the Leitrim-Roscommon.com website. Circa 1851 there were 51 places in Ireland called Castletown, in many counties. Your surname of interest, SULLIVAN, may narrow things down. Check out the www.ireland.com/ancestor/ website. During the Primary Valuation (1848-64) there were 3,388 SULLIVAN households in Co. Cork and 2,567 in Co. Kerry. The next highest county was Limerick at 378, Co. Tipperary 272, Cork city 242, Co. Waterford 199, Co. Clare 158, down from there ... SULLIVAN Households were found in 31 counties as well as Limerick city, Dublin city, Belfast city. (Co. Louth only had 28). Check that IreAtlas by typing Castletown in the "townland" field. Is it your belief that the family was well-to-do? Were they Protestant? Catholic? If a person emigrated to NZ, purchased his own ticket, he might be fairly well off. However, after 1840, colonies such as New Zealand and Australia offered money or land grants to skilled workers to attract needed immigrants. Whether that fits with a family of mariners, I couldn't say. Anyway, you can check my figures above for accuracy. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Stoddart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 7:48 PM Subject: [IRELAND] John Sullivan > Hello Everyone > > I am new to this post and in search of some possible assistance. > > My gggfather was John Sullivan who married a Margaret Baker in Penzance, > Cornwall in 1843 > > He was listed as a mariner, born about 1820 in "Castletown, Ireland" > > He and his wife show up living in Penzance in the 1851 Census but then > disappear > > Their son George (who leaves for NZ in the 1870s) marries in Marazion, > Penzance in 1874 but there is no other sign of them there > > His own father, another John, was said to be a "master mariner" > > My problem will be fairly obvious - which Castletown was my gggfather born > in (given the seafaring, my uneducated guess is in either Louth or Cork) > and how do I track him and his father from there? I suppose the > possibilities are that my gggfather went back to Ireland after the 1851 > Census or emigrated somewhere else > > Any suggestions would be most welcome > > Many thanks > > Brian > > Professor Brian Stoddart > Writer, Consultant and Strategic Advisor > PO Box 928 > KYNETON > VIC 3444 > Australia > > 0418171983 mobile > + 61 418171983 International > > 03 54223238 Home > +61 3 54223238 International > > [email protected]

SNIPPET: One of the best-known but oddest partnerships of the 19th century was that of GILBERT and SULLIVAN, who collaborated on the famous Savoy Operettas which began in 1875 with their one-act 'Trial by Jury.' Arthur Seymour SULLIVAN was Queen Victoria's favourite composer, a serious musician who wrote such well-known pieces as the hymn 'Onward, Christian Soldiers,' and 'The Lost Chord.' SULLIVAN was born into the squalor of Cockney London in 1842 into a musical family. His Irish father was military bandmaster at Sandhurst. From his Italian mother and Irish father, SULLIVAN received his warmth, charm and musical gifts. By the age of 8, he could play competently every musical instrument in his father's band. He also had the gift of a remarkable voice and sang sacred music in scarlet and gold in the Chapel Royal Choir. At the age of 14 he was awarded a prestigious scholarship to the Royal Academy of Music under the terms of which he went to Leipzig Conservatory and met Liszt, Spohe and Grieg. On returning to England he was appointed organist at the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden. In spite of fragile health that plagued him all his life, SULLIVAN worked hard and accomplished a large amount of work. In London he composed concerti, piano work and symphony, marches, overtures, an oratorio, a ballet, songs, religious music, and two comic operas. Of note - SULLIVAN was commissioned to write three special works including the "Wedding March," celebrating the marriage of the Prince of Wales to the beautiful Princess Alexandra of Denmark, which marked the beginning of the composer's relationship with the royal family. SULLIVAN was also a close friend of novelist Charles DICKENS. After a visit to Ireland, SULLIVAN composed his Symphony in E Flat ("The Irish Symphony") in 1863, which became a great success after its first performance at the Crystal Place in 1866. In 1871, SULLIVAN began a collaboration with the talented and fairly successful English playwright and poet, William Schwenck GILBERT, the son of a retired naval surgeon. GILBERT was born in London in 1836, his parents were well-to do, and he spent much of his youth travelling through Europe with them. He was kidnapped in Italy at a young age, released by ransom, but otherwise appears to have had an uneventful upbringing. He had three younger sisters. GILBERT was tall, bore himself with a military air and had a great wit, which he used frequently to crush those with whom he came into conflict, a not-infrequent occurance. When asked by a boring American lady: "Tell me, Mr. Gilbert, is Bach still composing?" he replied, "No Madam, Bach is by way of decomposing!" In 1877 GILBERT and SULLIVAN co-operated on "The Sorcerer." In 1873 they wrote their full-length masterpiece "HMS Pinafore," which became a huge success - so much so that ten thousand copies of the sheet music were being sold daily. By now the two were very much in demand, and this led to the establishment of a firm partnership between GILBERT, SULLIVAN and D'Oyly CARTE, manager of the Royalty Theatre in Dean Street. London, and who was to be their promoter and manager. The next operetta was a variance on "Pinafore" - "The Pirates of Penzance," which was first produced in NY in 1879 and in England in 1880. Success after success made the trio rich and famous as they followed on with projects to include "The Mikado" in 1885. So well-established had the operas now become that CARTE opened a new London theatre, The Savoy, to be devoted almost entirely to their productions which were then named the Savoy Operas. It was said to have been GILBERT's egotism and jealousy that began to cause a great deal of friction. He quarrelled with nearly everyone and resented the fact that SULLIVAN was knighted in 1883 for services to music while he himself was ignored by Queen Victoria. The cantankerous GILBERT also complained that SULLIVAN's music was drowning his witty words, which further strained their relationship. Their great alliance finally ended in 1896. SULLIVAN took to gambling in the European casinos, suffering greatly from a painful kidney ailment. He died suddenly in London in 1900, leaving a Grand Opera, 'The Emerald Isle,' only half-finished. GILBERT became a magistrate and retired to his rambling house at Harrow, receiving a belated knighthood in 1907. Sir GILBERT died from a heart attack in 1911 after rescuing a drowning girl in the swimming pool at his home. In the end, it was success and mutual respect that held these masters of comic operas together rather than mutual affection. The Savoy operas were kept alive by the D'Oyly CARTE company which continued to stage them until 1982, when hard times in the theatre caused the company to close down. This was re-formed in 1988, however, after a legacy was received by them from the late Bridget D'Oyly CARTE.

JEANIE WITH THE LIGHT BROWN HAIR I dream of Jeanie with the light brown hair Borne, like a vapor, on the summer air; I see her tripping where the bright streams play, Happy as the daisies that dance on her way. Many were the wild notes her merry voice would pour. Many were the blithe birds that warbled them o'er: Oh! I dream of Jeanie with the light brown hair, Floating, like a vapor, on the soft summer air. I long for Jeanie with the daydawn smile Radiant in gladness, warm with winning guile; I hear her melodies, like joys gone by, Sighing round my heart o'er the fond hopes that die: Sighing like the night wind and sobbing like the rain, Wailing for the lost one that comes not again: Oh! I long for Jeanie, and my heart bows low, Never more to find her where the bright waters flow. I sigh for Jeanie, but her light form strayed Far from the fond hearts round her native glade; Her smiles have vanished and her sweet songs flown, Flitting like the dreams that have cheered us and gone. Now the nodding wild flowers may wither on the shore While her gentle fingers will cull them no more: Oh! I sigh for Jeanie with the light brown hair, Floating, like a vapor, on the soft summer air. -- Stephen Collins Foster (1826-64)

Patrick Egan married Mary Cunningham in Kilkenny City in 1857. They lived on Walkin St. Patrick and Mary had three children, all of whom were born in Kilkenny City. They were Bridget (1858), Mary (1860) and William (1863). The family emigrated to Lewiston Maine in about 1869. Both Patrick and Mary died in Lewiston in 1874. Their son William, who was my wife's grandfather, went to Newport Rhode Island as an orphan to live with his step-sister. Mary Cunningham had previously been married to John Smyth. They were married in Kilkenny City, lived on Walkin St. and had four children including Catherine (1849), Patrick (1852), Ellen and Elizabeth (1854). The three girls emigrated to Lewiston Maine with Mary and her second husband, Patrick Egan. Eventually, after their mother and step-father's deaths, Catherine and Elizabether moved to Newport Rhode Island. Ellen remained in Lewiston, Maine. Please contact [email protected] Reply to [email protected]

Roger McKeogh/Keogh married Jane MacNamara ca 1830. They lived in Ballina Parish, County Tipperary. Children were Anne (1830), Sarah (?), James (1837) and Cornelius (1843). Sarah and her husband Michael Boyle arrived in Collingwood, Ontario, Canada ca 1857 with Anne. Anne married Patrick McAuley in 1859 in Collingwood. Cornelius Kehoe arrived in Boston Massachusetts in 1858 and by 1860 was in Collingwood. James Kehoe arrived in Massachusetts ca 1860, served in the Civil War and married Alice O’Brien in Salem MA in 1865. Cornelius moved to Salem ca 1870 and married Hanorah Lynch in Salem in 1870. The names McKeogh and Keogh were used by Anne, Sarah and Cornelius in Collingwood, Ontario while Kehoe and then Kehew were used by James and Cornelius in Salem Massachusetts. Please contact [email protected] Reply to [email protected]

Seeking information on John O’Connell, b ca 1825 in Ireland, son of Jeremiah O’Connell and Bridget (?). Emigrated to Lawrence Massachusetts ca 1846, married Mary Horan in Lawrence in 1850 and settled in Andover Massachusetts. (Reportedly John emigrated with four brothers but I have found no record of any of them.) Mary Horan was born ca 1825 in Buttevant, County Cork, Ireland and was the daughter of Charles and Mary Horan. John and Mary had eight children including Bridget (Abercrombie), Charles J., William, John A., David, Arthur, George and Mary Jane (Warden). The family lived in Andover Massachusetts until John and Mary’s deaths in 1896. Please contact [email protected] Reply to [email protected]

Hi again from New Zealand Thank you to all those who so kindly offered help and thanks to Michael Lynn @NI-Libraries.Net and Jean R. I tried the [email protected] and they found the death notice and the fact that it was a nephew (R Cameron) who paid for the notice. To better that they are posting the notice to me. A fantastic outcome, superb service, and I am over the moon. Once again thanks for your time and effort. Regards Janet

AND THAT BEING SO My soul is the High Meadow we played in, My cousin and I, when we were young, The High Meadow where we danced Round a fairy ring. My soul is the figure of my first love Skipping quickly across the sands, Her hair dyed yellow - was that wise? Round her laughing eyes. But the High Meadow's been built upon And that being so and my first love gone My soul must step in the streets Round the fire of song. -- Paul Durcan

GOING HOME TO MAYO, WINTER, 1949 Leaving behind us the alien, foreign city of Dublin My father drove through the night in an old Ford Anglia, His five-year-old son in the seat beside him, The rexine seat of red leatherette, And a yellow moon peered in through the windscreen, 'Daddy, Daddy, I cried, 'Pass out the moon.' But no matter how hard he drove he could not pass out the moon. Each town we passed through was another milestone And their names were magic passwords into eternity: Kilcock, Kinnegad, Strokestown, Elphin, Tarmanbarry, Tulsk, Ballaghaderreen, Ballavarry; Now we were in Mayo and the next stop was Turlough, The village of Turlough in the heartland of Mayo, And my father's mother's house, all oil-lamps and women And my bedroom over the public bar below, And in the morning cattle-cries and cock-crows: Life's seemingly seamless garment gorgeously rent By their screetches and bellowings. And in the evenings I walked with my father in the high grass down by the river Talking with him - an unheard-of thing in the city. But home was not home and the moon could be no more outflanked Than the daylight nightmare of Dublin city: Back down along the canal we chugged into the city And each lock-gate tolled our mutual doom, And railings and palings and asphalt and traffic-lights, And blocks after blocks of so-called 'new' tenements - Thousands of crosses of loneliness planted In the narrowing grave of the life of the father; In the wide, wide cemetery of the boy's childhood. -- Paul DURCAN (born Dublin 1944)

Good morning Jean, Once again, many thanks for your email. All the Dalmeny entries that you have listed have been looked at and researched in some detail. All have proved to be 'dead-end' with no further records found. Almost all other listings for Dalmeny in the Ancestry pages have proved to be street, house, building and business names, not surnames. This is a prime example of Ancestry padding its pages and numbers with geographical rather than genealogical data. The USA listings for Dalmeny in Ancestry are all descendants of a Gordon Bruce Dalmeny who changed his name from Daniel Clemo in 1924. The full story is known and available to anyone who has a family connection. On some sites listing the UK 1861 census a Thomas Dalmeny, born 1842, in Dublin is detailed but the original entry is badly written and difficult to read so it could be a transcription error. A check on other sites listing the 1861 census fails to find any evidence of the entry nor can the original entry or census page be found. As 1842 is well before the start of the Dublin BMD records we are unable to obtain a copy of the birth record from that source. This suggests that we will need to try the Dublin parish records and there appears to have been about twenty or so parishes in Dublin . It is understood that Dublin Cathedral acted as registrar and holds the records for all Dublin parishes and faiths. Can anyone confirm this? This prompts the question... does anyone know when the Dublin GRO BMD records will be available to search on line? The only other record found is of a Claude Philibert Dalmeny born 1795 in the Ain department of the Rhone Alpine region in France. Claude was just the right age to have been a migrant in the Frernch exodus that followed the civil unrest of the early 1800;s but again no further record found. The place name Dalmeny appears in Scottish records from cira 1200 with two Baronies of Dalmeny, one in South Glasgow and the other just north of Edinburgh from which the title name Lord Dalmeny stems. Considering that it was once the practise to name children "conceived and born in fornication" (church record wording), after the parish in which the child was born would suggest that the surname Dalmeny should be a little more commonplace than it historically is. The name has many alternative spellings with names such as Dalman, Dahlman, Dalmen, Dalmaine, De Meny and many other similar variations all listed as originating in the Hanoverian region. Again similar names can be found in most of the other European countries. This is when a good knowledge of geography, history and migration becomes a necessity in genealogical searches. Unfortunately I have a lot to learn. My plea is... if any reader knows of or has a connection with anyone named Dalmeny born before about 1926, please please please contact me. Sincerely.....Don Dalmeny> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:38:23 -0700> Subject: Re: [IRELAND] re. DALMENY> > Hi Don - On "googling" the web with the DALMENY surname - I started with > Ancestry.com. I found a reference to an event for a Clarence Victor DALMENY > with 1906 date July-Sept-Aug., Hull, Yorkshire-East Riding, Humberside. I > also found a reference to a Mark COUSENS event registration 1914 > Jul-Aug-Sept with spouse's name Blanche DALMENY, District Newport M, > Glamorgan, ?Gwent, Monmouthshire, ?Scotland. Do you have this? I believe > both of those can be found at Ancestry.com but by subscription only, along > with other DALMENY data. They had a free BMD Marriage Index 1837-1983 for > the UK. If some of the DALMENY is subscription-only data at Ancestry.com, > and you don't have a subscription, perhaps a lister who does can help you. > Looked like there might be USA data, too. You apparently have been in > touch with fellow researcher Audrey DALMENY who has posted queries to the > Internet. Apparently DUNMANYN and DALMENIE may be Scottish variations of > DALMENY surname. Sorry this note is not very specific, but if you are > interested in any of this I (hopefully) backtrack and find same. Jean> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald Dalmeny" <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Cc: <[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:56 AM> Subject: Re: [IRELAND] re. DALMENY> > > > Dear Jean,> Again, many thanks for your email. You are a busy lass.> I have looked at the sites showing the 1901/1911 census results but nothing > so far. We will keep checking.> Unfortunately we have no firm details of birth, marriage or > deaths or of places, only broad estimates.> Other sightings of the Dalmeny surname are Clarence Victor > Dalmeny serving as a lieutenant in the 6th Inniskilling Dragoons,( not > listed in the British Archives army records) his son also Clarence Victor, a > merchant seaman,who in 1906 aged 35 , married Kirstine Lundgreen in Hull in > 1906. This suggests that Clarence was born 1871, place unknown.(no other > record found); a Blanche Dalmeny who on her second marriage in 1914 > described herself as a widow. We found Blanche, maiden name Wallace, in the > UK 1901 census as a 13 year old in a girls boarding school. This suggests > that she married Dalmeny between cira 1904 and 1913. ( Her vfather was an > army man serving in the 17th Lancers, who appears to have died in South > Africa in 1902). There is no record of this marriage and death in the UK or > Dublin GRO records., and finally there is a Lysle Dalmeny listed as having > sailed from Southampton bound for Shanghai in 1906, possible on missionary > work. That is about all we have.> We look forward to the publication of the Dublin GRO BMD records > on the internet (any news about when that may be?) and will keep checking on > further listing of the 1901/1911 census.> We will always be delighted to hear from anyone who knows of or > has any link with the surname Dalmeny> Good luck in all your endeavours,> Sincerely.....Don Dalmeny> > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 29 > Sep 2007 04:36:09 -0700> Subject: Re: [IRELAND] re. DALMENY> > Hi - Perhaps > on the 1901 or 1911 census of Ireland? Do you have a > date/place of death? > J.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald Dalmeny" > <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Cc: > <[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:26 AM> > Subject: [IRELAND] re. DALMENY> > > >> > Hi Jean,> > Many thanks for your > email. The person that I am looking for is > > Angus Dalmeny. He may have > been Scottish, Irish or English or even French > > or Dutch, but no record > of him can be found. He may have served as a > > Veterinary Surgeon at the > British army Veterinary Hospital based in > > Waterford or in any British or > Irish army unit in the period 1880 to 1920. > > He was married to a Margaret > Fordham and is believed to have had two sons > > John and Donald and two > daughters Margaret and Constance. No record can > > be found for any of his > family.> > That is about all I know. Hope it is sufficient for what ever you > > > have in mind.> > Sincerely.....Don Dalmeny > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Feel like a local wherever you go. http://www.backofmyhand.com

>From what I can gather there are no indexes before 1886. Steven Smyrl -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jean R. Sent: 01 October 2007 21:41 To: [email protected] Subject: [IRELAND] "Marine Register" - Birth/Death Irish Subjects at Sea MARITIME RECORDS: From 1864 up to the present, the General Register Office has kept a separate 'Marine Register' of births and deaths of Irish subjects which took place at sea. From 1886 only, a printed index to this register is bound into the back of the births and death index for each year. For earlier registers, the indexes have to be requested from the staff in the Office. No separate register was kept for marriages at sea. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The following files for Galway, Limerick & Mayo have been added to the IGP Archives in September. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/ GALWAY Church Records --RC Baptisms - Diocese of Kilmacduagh, Beagh Parish, 1858 --RC Baptisms - Diocese of Tuam, Abbeyknockmoy Parish - Selected entries November 12, 1821 - October 12, 1851 (mostly Rabbit & Joint surnames) Census --1911 Census of Beagh Parish - Heads of Household - (Drumgooaun, Fiddaun, Gortavoher, Knocktoby, Laghtyshaughnessy, Lurga, Rathwilladoon, Scarriff) Census Substitutes --Griffith's Valuation - Parish of Abbeyknockmoy, Ballynakilla Townland Land -- A Survey of Loughrea 1791 Miscellaneous - Visitation of Ireland - Persse Family ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LIMERICK Cemeteries --Mt. St. Lawrence Cemetery (Shanahan Entries) from Kathy Rhodes Census -- 1901 Census Ballynamucky Townland, Rathkeale Civil Parish from Christine Hunt & Frances Newberry Census Substitutes --Index of Freemen of Limerick, 1746-1836 (A-E) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MAYO Church Records -- RC Marriages Parish of Balla - 1863 from Christine Hunt and Kathleen Snowberger Directories -- Pigot's 1824 Directory of Ballina -- Slater's 1846 Directory of Ballina --Slater's 1881 Directory of Ballina, Enniscrone, Easky, Killala Vital Records -- Marriage License -FLAHERTY/COYLE 1868 from Kathy Dulin Let me know if you have anything to add. All contributions welcome. Submission form: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/form.htm Cathy Joynt Labath Cos. Galway, Mayo, Clare and Limerick Archive Manager http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/

SNIPPET: The son of a Carlow farmer, industrialist William DARGAN(1799-1867), was educated in England and trained as a surveyor there. Following experience gained under Thomas TELFORD in Wales, DARGAN returned to Ireland and established himself as a road contractor. In 1831 he became the contractor for the Dublin to Kingstown railway line, the first in Ireland. Over the next 20 years he constructed in excess of 600 miles of railway line, the Ulster canal, and major improvements to Belfast's docks. In 1853 he organized the Irish Industrial Exhibition, inspired by the success of the Great Exhibition of 1851 in London and an exhibition in Cork in 1852 that was later seen as a modest success, but DARGAN's much larger exhibition in Dublin in 1853 was less successful. Apparently this was due to the fact that the Irish market was too small to tempt adequate numbers of foreign manufacturers and his greatly expanded arts, antiquities and overseas exotica tended to overshadow the displays of Irish raw materials, machinery, and manufactured goods. Overall attendance was low, even though QUEEN VICTORIA and PRINCE ALBERT, during a week-long stay in Ireland visited the hall four times. QUEEN VICTORIA also paid a visit to DARGAN's home. DARGAN declined a baronetcy and underwrote a substantial loss. Unfortunately, DARGAN's later investments in textile manufacture also proved financially disastrous and he finally suspended payment on his debts the year before his death. His widow was subsequently granted an annual civil list pension of 100 pounds.

MARITIME RECORDS: From 1864 up to the present, the General Register Office has kept a separate 'Marine Register' of births and deaths of Irish subjects which took place at sea. From 1886 only, a printed index to this register is bound into the back of the births and death index for each year. For earlier registers, the indexes have to be requested from the staff in the Office. No separate register was kept for marriages at sea.