Lindsey & List -- September 29, 2007: Ireland's President, Mrs. Mary McALEESE's visit to Coatbridge yesterday, as part of her three-day trip to Scotland, acknowledged the presence of Scotland's largest single community of Irish diaspora. Her attendance at St Patrick's church brought back memories of the thousands of Irish people who passed through the Broomielaw in Glasgow to Coatbridge - which in the middle of the 19th century was enjoying an upsurge in industry. When Mary McALEESE finally appeared, Mrs Emily O'DONNELL thrust her hand outwards and exchanged a few, treasured words. Like so many people in the Lanarkshire town of Coatbridge, the septuagenarian, who moved to Scotland from Dublin in 1949, is inextricably bound to Ireland and the occasion meant much to her. There, with the Monkland Canal, and work in iron smelting, families from Ireland, mainly originating from the northern counties of Donegal, Down, Armagh, and Tyrone, could find a way to make a living rather than endure their homeland's famine. The numbers were sizeable. According to the 1851 census, Scotland's Irish-born population was just 7.2% of the total population. In Coatbridge, however, that figure stood at 35.8%. Excerpts, "The Herald." A famous person who might have an area or park named after him: Edward MARTYN was born at Masonbrook, near Loughrea, Galway, on the 31st January, 1859. Per Wikipedia: Edward MARTYN (1859-1923) of Tullira Castle, Ardrahan, Co. Galway. Irish political and cultural activist, playwright, last of the senior branch of the MARTYN family of Tullira, one of the Tribes of Galway. Friend of William Butler YEATS, Lady GREGORY, with whom he founded the Irish Literary Theatre. He was the first President of Sinn Fein, which he co-founded with Arthur Griffith. He was a cousin and friend to George MOORE, though their relationship was often antagonistic. Violently opposed to British rule in Ireland, he was the centre of a court case in 1905 as the result of an off-the cuff remark in which he stated that "All Irishmen who join the English army ought to be flogged". He died in 1923, unmarried, and after donating his body to science, was buried at his own request in a pauper's grave. He was related to the Hungarian artist and sculptor, Ferenc MARTYN (1899-1986). (My note: Check me out, but I remember seeing on the 1901 Census data at the Leitrim-Roscommon.com website, several MARTYN families and one listed Galway with a reference to Tullira. Also, on the all-Ireland townland search engine there 70 "starts with Ston" type placenames to explore. The Scottish census "negil" under discussion has been provided with good ideas from listers. I guess the Do"negal" one might be the one I would favor, based on your seeming North of Ireland focus, but the other suggestions are very good. It is noted that clarification to do with "Ireland" on the 1851 Scotland census apparently could refer to a parish, a maiden "nee"surname, as well as a county. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Phelan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Negil Ireland Re Stonyford > There is a village called Stonyford in Co Kilkenny. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:14 PM > Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Negil Ireland > > >> This is what I am feeling that these areas I am searching are so small >> only the town folk have >> ever heard of them. >> >> I am also looking for Stoneport, or Stonefort, or Stonepost Ireland >> also written next to this was Martyn Park. These are supposed to be >> birthplaces also. >> >> This is all from a 1937 death cert of a man who was born in Ireland. >> I have yet to find >> these places either. >> >> He was supposed to have been from Fermanagh but unsure if he was born >> there. >> >> Lindsey

Yes I see what you mean. Donegal is right next to Fermanagh which I have been concentrating on. I really need the original census of 1851 Cambusnethan scotland read and maybe that would lead me to a better transcription of the town word. Thanks Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: Mike Saunders <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 5:28 pm Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Negil Ireland Lindsey, Here is a helpful website for finding townlands http://www.seanruad.com/. You will find Stonefort here but not Nigel. Also, there are several Mountainpark but no Martyn Park. Insofar as the Nigel townland is concerned it could well be a part of a townland name such as Do*negal* (emphasis mine). Mike On 10/8/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is what I am feeling that these areas I am searching are so small > only the town folk have > ever heard of them. > > I am also looking for Stoneport, or Stonefort, or Stonepost Ireland > also written next to this was Martyn Park. These are supposed to be > birthplaces also. > > This is all from a 1937 death cert of a man who was born in Ireland. > I have yet to find > these places either. > > He was supposed to have been from Fermanagh but unsure if he was born > there. > > Lindsey > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beckstrom, Barbara A <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 4:04 pm > Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Negil Ireland > > > > I just returned from Ireland. Before going I ordered an LDS film. On > the left side of my gg uncle's baptism was the name Glackenstown. I > reviewed the film at the National Library. I inquired as to location > since I wasn't able to find it on my own. > > Neither of the assistants could find it. They went through TONS of > reference books. Finally the one guy said it sometimes happened that if > there were several families with the same surname, that that area would > become known as a town. Like with lots of Jones' it may end up being > called Jonestown. Looking further into the film we found numerous > Glackens throughout the BMD records. > > One of the guys called someone who lived in the parish area and asked > about the town. She gave him directions. So away we went. I asked at > a store if they knew where it was and the girl said around the corner. > I still wanted to see a name sign......but of course never found one. I > then came across two surveyors on the road. I asked if the y knew where > Glackenstown was and was told I was in it. He had a survey map and > THERE IT WAS!! Glackenstown..on the survey map. I don't think I'll > ever see it in print again....but it was wonderful to see. > > This was something that I never would've found had I not gone to > Ireland. > > Barb in Michigan > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRELAND] Negil Ireland > > Does anyone have experience at finding town, or village names? > > This above subject line name is listed as my relatives birthplace on the > 1851 census of Cambusnethan Scotland. > > Joseph Lindsay age 21 > > Robert MacKay age 30 > wife Jane Lindsay Mackay 28 > > Thanks > > Lindsey > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

My name is Lindsey not Robert. Cambuslang, is different from Cambusnethan. I am not in question of a Scotland name it is the Negil, Ireland name I am trying to find. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Donald Dalmeny <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 5:00 pm Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Negil Ireland Hi Robert, My suggestion is that the place name may be Cambuslang, a suberb of Glasgow. Hope this helps. Sincerely.....Don Dalmeny On 08/10/2007, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anyone have experience at finding town, or village names? > > This above subject line name is listed as my relatives birthplace on the > 1851 census of Cambusnethan Scotland. > > Joseph Lindsay age 21 > > Robert MacKay age 30 > wife Jane Lindsay Mackay 28 > > Thanks > > Lindsey > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Sometimes 'googling' 'history of [name u seek] will bring up results as many submit these types of interesting tidbits to web sites. Mimi Taylor

Lindsey, Here is a helpful website for finding townlands http://www.seanruad.com/. You will find Stonefort here but not Nigel. Also, there are several Mountainpark but no Martyn Park. Insofar as the Nigel townland is concerned it could well be a part of a townland name such as Do*negal* (emphasis mine). Mike On 10/8/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is what I am feeling that these areas I am searching are so small > only the town folk have > ever heard of them. > > I am also looking for Stoneport, or Stonefort, or Stonepost Ireland > also written next to this was Martyn Park. These are supposed to be > birthplaces also. > > This is all from a 1937 death cert of a man who was born in Ireland. > I have yet to find > these places either. > > He was supposed to have been from Fermanagh but unsure if he was born > there. > > Lindsey > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beckstrom, Barbara A <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 4:04 pm > Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Negil Ireland > > > > I just returned from Ireland. Before going I ordered an LDS film. On > the left side of my gg uncle's baptism was the name Glackenstown. I > reviewed the film at the National Library. I inquired as to location > since I wasn't able to find it on my own. > > Neither of the assistants could find it. They went through TONS of > reference books. Finally the one guy said it sometimes happened that if > there were several families with the same surname, that that area would > become known as a town. Like with lots of Jones' it may end up being > called Jonestown. Looking further into the film we found numerous > Glackens throughout the BMD records. > > One of the guys called someone who lived in the parish area and asked > about the town. She gave him directions. So away we went. I asked at > a store if they knew where it was and the girl said around the corner. > I still wanted to see a name sign......but of course never found one. I > then came across two surveyors on the road. I asked if the y knew where > Glackenstown was and was told I was in it. He had a survey map and > THERE IT WAS!! Glackenstown..on the survey map. I don't think I'll > ever see it in print again....but it was wonderful to see. > > This was something that I never would've found had I not gone to > Ireland. > > Barb in Michigan > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRELAND] Negil Ireland > > Does anyone have experience at finding town, or village names? > > This above subject line name is listed as my relatives birthplace on the > 1851 census of Cambusnethan Scotland. > > Joseph Lindsay age 21 > > Robert MacKay age 30 > wife Jane Lindsay Mackay 28 > > Thanks > > Lindsey > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is what I am feeling that these areas I am searching are so small only the town folk have ever heard of them. I am also looking for Stoneport, or Stonefort, or Stonepost Ireland also written next to this was Martyn Park. These are supposed to be birthplaces also. This is all from a 1937 death cert of a man who was born in Ireland. I have yet to find these places either. He was supposed to have been from Fermanagh but unsure if he was born there. Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: Beckstrom, Barbara A <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 4:04 pm Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Negil Ireland I just returned from Ireland. Before going I ordered an LDS film. On the left side of my gg uncle's baptism was the name Glackenstown. I reviewed the film at the National Library. I inquired as to location since I wasn't able to find it on my own. Neither of the assistants could find it. They went through TONS of reference books. Finally the one guy said it sometimes happened that if there were several families with the same surname, that that area would become known as a town. Like with lots of Jones' it may end up being called Jonestown. Looking further into the film we found numerous Glackens throughout the BMD records. One of the guys called someone who lived in the parish area and asked about the town. She gave him directions. So away we went. I asked at a store if they knew where it was and the girl said around the corner. I still wanted to see a name sign......but of course never found one. I then came across two surveyors on the road. I asked if the y knew where Glackenstown was and was told I was in it. He had a survey map and THERE IT WAS!! Glackenstown..on the survey map. I don't think I'll ever see it in print again....but it was wonderful to see. This was something that I never would've found had I not gone to Ireland. Barb in Michigan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRELAND] Negil Ireland Does anyone have experience at finding town, or village names? This above subject line name is listed as my relatives birthplace on the 1851 census of Cambusnethan Scotland. Joseph Lindsay age 21 Robert MacKay age 30 wife Jane Lindsay Mackay 28 Thanks Lindsey ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

I just returned from Ireland. Before going I ordered an LDS film. On the left side of my gg uncle's baptism was the name Glackenstown. I reviewed the film at the National Library. I inquired as to location since I wasn't able to find it on my own. Neither of the assistants could find it. They went through TONS of reference books. Finally the one guy said it sometimes happened that if there were several families with the same surname, that that area would become known as a town. Like with lots of Jones' it may end up being called Jonestown. Looking further into the film we found numerous Glackens throughout the BMD records. One of the guys called someone who lived in the parish area and asked about the town. She gave him directions. So away we went. I asked at a store if they knew where it was and the girl said around the corner. I still wanted to see a name sign......but of course never found one. I then came across two surveyors on the road. I asked if the y knew where Glackenstown was and was told I was in it. He had a survey map and THERE IT WAS!! Glackenstown..on the survey map. I don't think I'll ever see it in print again....but it was wonderful to see. This was something that I never would've found had I not gone to Ireland. Barb in Michigan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRELAND] Negil Ireland Does anyone have experience at finding town, or village names? This above subject line name is listed as my relatives birthplace on the 1851 census of Cambusnethan Scotland. Joseph Lindsay age 21 Robert MacKay age 30 wife Jane Lindsay Mackay 28 Thanks Lindsey ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRELAND] Negil Ireland Does anyone have experience at finding town, or village names? This above subject line name is listed as my relatives birthplace on the 1851 census of Cambusnethan Scotland. Joseph Lindsay age 21 Robert MacKay age 30 wife Jane Lindsay Mackay 28 Thanks Lindsey ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There was a bad growing season in 1818-1819 due to a volcano eruption in the Pacific that caused a year with no summer and the crops failed. My relatives left in Ireland in 1819 and went to Quebec then on the Ontario City of Guleph area. They were W. Methodists that may have left Carlow Co for a new life. I can't find them In Ireland YET! I'm still trying. Trudy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Betty Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 4:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRELAND] Leaving Co. Sligo in 1823 Hello, For several years I've read the postings about "the Famine years" and all the residents of Ireland who migrated to North America. But, I very rarely (ever?) see postings about the residents of Ireland who migrated to the U.S. or Canada around 1820. My ancestors left Co. Sligo in 1823 and went to Canada. Were the conditions in the 1820's almost as bad as they were much later? Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) Family-group included: Patrick and Elizabeth (KERR?) KERR Miss Elizabeth KERR (married in Canada) John and Ann (HENDERSON) KERR William and Mary (KERR) HENDERSON Samuel and Catherine (?) HENDERSON (and the first of their many children to come) Note: These couples had many children in Quebec Province, and many people have been researching them for many years. And, no one can come up with the names of their parents. I believe they lived in the northern part of the county, perhaps in or near the Calry Parish. And, researchers believe they were born in County Sligo and married there. An inqury to the County Sligo ... Heritage Centre was not fruitful. Remember to check the archives of all the Lists and Boards for your surnames and place-names. And, please remember to check the on-line auctions for for your surnames and place-names. (I started a new List: CAN-USA-MIGRATION) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have experience at finding town, or village names? This above subject line name is listed as my relatives birthplace on the 1851 census of Cambusnethan Scotland. Joseph Lindsay age 21 Robert MacKay age 30 wife Jane Lindsay Mackay 28 Thanks Lindsey ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Stonefort shows up on the IreAtlas in Fermanagh Stonefort 58 Fermanagh Lurg Templecarn Lowtherstown Ulster http://preview.tinyurl.com/2n4ebb In the Townland field enter your search word and hit submit I entered Stone and all types of T/L pop up with it somewhere in the field Bob Cdn. =============================== [email protected] wrote:<SNIP> > ...I am also looking for Stoneport, or Stonefort, or Stonepost Ireland > also written next to this was Martyn Park. These are supposed to be > birthplaces also.... > ===================================

Hi Jean, Thank you for this good information ! I just rechecked my notes and my KERR's and HENDERSON's were "Wesleyan Methodists" while in Quebec Province. They and their immediate relatives were Prostestants ... and, as I said, they came from the northern part of County Sligo. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean R." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: [IRELAND] Emigration -- Ireland to North America

Roscommon Tibohin Corroghogil Corracoggil L. McShane Laborer wife Pap. County/Parish/Townland/Alternate Spelling/Given Name or Initial/Surname/Profession/Wife/Religion. It also showed, in the McSHANE entry (unlike most of the entries) there were no children in the home. There were no servants in the home. FYI -- A searchable data base containing data transcribed from the 1749 SYNGE (Elphin) census in the Dioces of Elphin. This census covers most of Roscommon and parts of Galway and Sligo. The data base is under development and is on-line for limited searching at the Leitrim-Roscommon.com website. The data collected for the Elphin Census was under the direction of Edward SYNGE, the bishop of Elphin for the Church of Ireland. It was recorded that Bishop SYNGE was anxious to know the proportion of Protestants to "Papists" (a name he used to refer to Catholics). For what it is worth, the census revealed the ratio to be 3 Protestants to 39 "Papists". There are no surviving details as to how the census was conducted, or who the enumerators were. throughout the 19th Century the process of division and amalgamation of parishes was ongoing. Examples: Clooncraft, a separate parish in the 1749 Elphin Census, was divided up between Elphin and Aughrim parishes in 1872. In the 1850s, the old parish of Tibohine lost much of its territory and Fairymount became the parish church. And the list goes on. Many townlands were affected by these changes. Also, many townlands were replaced or renamed

"The Appalachians" was produced by the Sierra Club. Here is a link to their site http://www.sierraclub.org/appalachia/ It was aired on a local PBS station in Tampa, FL back in the spring. I watched it and taped it so I can watch it again as it was such a wonderful series. I have deep family roots in the area going back to the 1700s and it helped to give me a better perspective on how my ancestors lived, etc. I highly recommend it to anyone, even if your roots are not Appalachian - the photography is wonderful. Debi -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Jean R. Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 10:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRELAND] "The Appalachians"" (PBS) TVDocumentary/DVD/VHS/Book/Recording SNIPPET: The excellent three-hour documentary,"The Appalachians" aired on Public Broadcasting Station (PBS) in the U.S.A.in August 2005. It told the story of the Scotch-Irish, etc., their history, relationship to the land, to their religion, and to their music. Try "googling" the phrase "The Appalachians" documentary. Perhaps this material is still available. Appalachia is a region of the eastern United States. The mountain system extends from South Quebec, Canada to central Alabama and includes parts of eleven states. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.4/1055 - Release Date: 10/7/2007 10:24 AM

I have just put the following tithe applotment indexes on line: Doon Civil Parish, both Co Tipperary and Co Limerick Abbeyfeale Civil Parish, Co Limerick Abington Civil Parish, Co Limerick Oola Civil Parish, Co Limerick You can find them by going to the url under my name and clicking on County Limerick and County Tipperary (Doon) -- Pat Connors, visiting Salt Lake City UT http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

SNIPPET: The excellent three-hour documentary,"The Appalachians" aired on Public Broadcasting Station (PBS) in the U.S.A.in August 2005. It told the story of the Scotch-Irish, etc., their history, relationship to the land, to their religion, and to their music. Try "googling" the phrase "The Appalachians" documentary. Perhaps this material is still available. Appalachia is a region of the eastern United States. The mountain system extends from South Quebec, Canada to central Alabama and includes parts of eleven states.

SNIPPET: Worth repeating -- For extensive data on worldwide immigration to North America (USA/Canada) look for the 15+ volume set "Passenger and Immigration Lists 1538-1900," Detroit/Gale Research (1981- )at your local genealogical library. Entries for this ongoing series were painstakingly extracted on a source-by-source basis from ship passenger lists, etc. Material is alphabetical by surname, and you will need to check each volume for your ancestor's name. Mr. FILBY also produced reference books specifically dealing with Italian and German immigration to the United States. Broderbund/Banner Blue (www.genealogy.com) has issued the first 15 volumes of "PILI"on a single CD (item number 354). Click on Shop/Data on CD ROM. I believe this data is available at that website by subscription, as well.

SNIPPET: Between the end of the American Revolution and the end of the War of 1812 (1783-1815), between 100,000 and 150,000 Irish immigrants landed in North America. Most were Ulster Presbyterians who came as farmers or artisans. Squeezed by high rents on their land and the collapse of the linen industry due to British free trade policy, more and more Irish looked to America as a place to begin anew. As economic conditions continued to worsen in Ireland, the numbers of immigrants soared. Upwards of one million Irish immigrants crossed the Atlantic between 1815 and 1845. Increasingly (especially after 1830), these immigrants were Catholics hailing from the south and west of Ireland. They were much poorer and brought fewer skills with them compared with their Ulster counterparts. One of the things making immigration to America in this period easier was the increased trade between Ireland and New York and Liverpool and New York. The growth in trade in the 1820s and 1830s encouraged emigration by lowering the cost of passenger travel. England, however, wanted to populate Canada rather than America with Irish immigrants and thus passed a series of Passenger Acts that made emigration to the latter far more expensive and inconvenient. For example, heavy surcharges increased the price of passage to New York to around 5 pounds versus just 15 shillings for transit to Canada. In addition, ships bound for Canada left from every Irish port, while most bound for America left from Liverpool. Still, limited opportunity in Canada led many an Irish family to book cheap passage to Canada and then walk to Boston. Such a trend accounts for the high percentage of Irish who settled in New England in the pre-Famine era.

Hello, For several years I've read the postings about "the Famine years" and all the residents of Ireland who migrated to North America. But, I very rarely (ever?) see postings about the residents of Ireland who migrated to the U.S. or Canada around 1820. My ancestors left Co. Sligo in 1823 and went to Canada. Were the conditions in the 1820's almost as bad as they were much later? Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) Family-group included: Patrick and Elizabeth (KERR?) KERR Miss Elizabeth KERR (married in Canada) John and Ann (HENDERSON) KERR William and Mary (KERR) HENDERSON Samuel and Catherine (?) HENDERSON (and the first of their many children to come) Note: These couples had many children in Quebec Province, and many people have been researching them for many years. And, no one can come up with the names of their parents. I believe they lived in the northern part of the county, perhaps in or near the Calry Parish. And, researchers believe they were born in County Sligo and married there. An inqury to the County Sligo ... Heritage Centre was not fruitful. Remember to check the archives of all the Lists and Boards for your surnames and place-names. And, please remember to check the on-line auctions for for your surnames and place-names. (I started a new List: CAN-USA-MIGRATION)

Hello, Trying to narrow down my research for John FERRIGAN who may have been born in northern Ireland. Have never done much research in Ireland. The counties of interest is Armagh(5), Lough & Monaghan(7). I was hoping someone would have access to the 1841 census to look up Ferrigan's. That would help me narrow the search to a specific location and or parish. Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated. Dave Springer BOSTON