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    1. [IRELAND] Impressions - Emigrants & Travellers
    2. Jean R.
    3. EMIGRATION: "I was called on deck to smell the land -- and truly the change was very sensible ... It was the breath of youth and hope and love." -- Diary of Mary GAPPER. Regarding immigration to Quebec in 1847: "I spent a considerable part of the day watching a shark that followed in our wake with great constancy .. the mate said it was a certain forerunner of death." -- Robert WHYTE, "The Ocean Plague, or A Voyage to Quebec in an Irish Emigrant Vessel, Embracing a Quarantine at Grosse Isle in 1847, with notes Illustrative of the Ship Pestilence of that Fatal Year," pub. Boston 1848, copy in Library of Congress. "... If any class deserves to be protected and assisted by the government, it is that class who are banished from their native land in search of the bare means of subsistence ... The law is bound, at least on the English side ... to put an end to that system by which a firm of traders in emigrants purchase of the owners the whole 'tween decks of a ship, and send on board as many wretched people as they can get hold of on any terms they can get, without the smallest reference to the convenience of the steerage..or anything but their own immediate profit -- Author Charles DICKENS, "American Notes." "You have stated that, after getting to sea, the two privies on deck were destroyed?" "Yes ... they were only put up temporarily ... the day before she sailed ..." "And that there were none below?" "Yes. None below." "What was the remedy?" "There was no remedy ...." "In consequence of that there was a very bad smell below?" "You could not stand below." -- Testimony of Mr. Delany FINCH, Minutes of Evidence Taken Before the Select Committee on Emigrant Ships," 1854. "New York is a very brilliant city. To give the best idea of it I should describe it as something of a fusion between Liverpool and Paris -- crowded quays, long perspectives of vessels and masts, bustling streets, gay shops, tall white houses, and a clear brilliant sky overhead." -- Earl of Carlisle, "Travels in America." If a family could raise only enough money for one passage, the ticket would be bought in the name of the eldest son or daughter. When that son or daughter arrived in America and got a job, money would be sent back to Ireland to help the family pay the rent and eventually to buy another passage ticket for a younger brother or sister. This remittance system of "one bringing another" was to become so firmly rooted on both sides of the Atlantic that sister would follow brother, and brother sister, until the children of an entire family were reunited in America. As the "Cork Examiner," 22 June 1871 revealed, the emigrant's "chain" or link to Ireland does not draw him back despite the peculiar strength of Irish relationships, "but pulls forward those he has left behind." -- Excerpt, "Paddy's Lament, Ireland 1846-47," Thomas & Michael GALLAGHER (1982) "All during my life people kept going to America and there's not a family in this parish but has somebody living in the States. There was always a big night for anybody going away. Neily McCOLGAN, the blind fiddler, would be sent for, and they would dance till day-clearing. Then, too, for anybody coming home there was always a bottle-drink; but these led to so much drinking that Fr. FOX put down the bottle drinks entirely ... Times at home were bad, and they all left home with nothing but the clothes on their backs. The old people said that good health and the grace of God were fortunes enough for any young man or woman." -- Charles McGLINCHY, "The Last of the Name." ".... It was just like a big funeral ... and the last parting ... was indeed sad to see ... The parents especially were so sad, as if the person leaving were really dead ... You would rather not be there at all if you would be any way soft yourself." Manuscript 1411, Irish Folklore Department, University College, Dublin. The Irishman's love of his homeland and of the Irish way of life, despite the hardships imposed by the misbegotten union with Britain in 1800, had always, until the famine, limited emigration. The peasant's desperate hold upon his land, his passion for survival at home, his love of the Gaelic language, and his fear of puritan America's hostility to Catholicism had created a kind of psychological moat confining him to Ireland. But emigration had been used in the past as a remedy for hard times by adventurous Irishmen whose imagination had been fired by stories of America, by letters from emigrants who rode their own horses and spoke of being so far west in America that they had to crouch to let the sun go down. Per letter that appeared in the "Tipperary Vindicator" 5 Jan 1848 -- "I wish to heaven all our countrymen were here," wrote one such emigrant from the Chicago area. "... The labourer can earn as much in one day as will support him for a week. The richest land in the world may be purchased here or in Wisconsin for $1.25 an acre - equal to 5s 3d sterling - pure alluvial soil, for 30 feet of surface ... If I could show them the splendid prairie I am looking on, extending in wild luxuriant verdure far as the eye can reach -- virgin soil that will stand the wear and tear of ages without requiring a shovel full of manure -- how different would their situation be from what it is! How gladly they would fly with their families." -- Excerpt, "Through Irish Eyes," Smithmark Publishers (1998).

    10/24/2007 02:38:02
    1. [IRELAND] Recent Trip to Ireland - Cobh, Cork's marvelous "Queenstown Story" Museum
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: One of the most moving experiences my sister and I shared on our summer 2006 trip to Ireland was a visit to "The Queenstown Story" museum, Cobh's major sightseeing attraction that fills its harborside Victorian station. The topics and displays - the famine, Irish emigration, Australia-bound prison ships, the sinking of the "Lusitania," and the ill-fated voyage of the Belfast-built "Titanic," are fascinating in themselves. What set it apart for us was the heart-stopping multi-media experience. In a large, darkened room, dramatic film footage of heaving old ships, monstrous, pounding waves, the deafening cries of frightened passengers assail you on all sides. By the time we left we felt "half-drowned," having been at the mercy of a ship on the high seas. It effectively brought history and the emigrant experience home to us. Cobh (pron. "cove") in Co. Cork was the last Irish soil a great many emigrants had under their feet. It was the major port of emigration in the 19th century. Of the six million Irish who have emigrated to America, Canada and Australia since 1815, nearly half have left from Cobh. The first steam-powered ship to make a transatlantic crossing departed from Cobh in 1838, cutting the journey time from 50 days to 18. When Queen Victoria of England came to Ireland for the first time in 1849, Cobh was the first Irish ground she set foot on. The town renamed it "Queenstown" in her honor. It was still going by that name in 1912, when the Titanic" made its final fateful stop before heading out on his maiden (and only) voyage. To celebrate their new independence from British royalty in 1922, locals changed its name back to its original name, Cobh. The harborside has gaily painted houses, St. Colman's towering neo-Gothic cathedral is impressive, and the beautifully-sculpted emigration statue just outside the "Queenstown Story" set the mood for the experience to come. We were there on a gorgeous, sunny day, and the blue sky and sea were stunning.

    10/24/2007 02:27:07
    1. [IRELAND] Ordnance Survey Memoirs -- "Irish Emigration Lists 1833-1839, " ed. Brian MITCHELLl
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: In Ireland as a prelude to a nationwide valuation of land and buildings, i.e., the so-called Griffith's Valuation, the Ordnance Survey was directed to map the whole country at a scale of six inches to one mile. It was originally intended to accompany each map with written topographical descriptions for every civil parish. The field officers of the Ordnance Survey gathered a wealth of historical and socio-economic information for many parishes in their notebooks before the idea was abandoned in 1840. All the original manuscripts are deposited in 52 boxes in the Royal Irish Academy in Dublin. They cover 19 of Ireland's counties: Cos. Antrim and Londonderry contain by far the most detailed information with 17 and 20 boxes, respectively, of work papers. Cos. Donegal, Down, Fermanagh and Tyrone consist of 2-3 boxes, whereas the remainder, Cos. Armagh, Cavan, Cork, Galway, Leitrim, Leix, Longford, Mayo, Meath, Monaghan, Roscommon, Sligo and Tipperary have only one or part of a box each. Although these memoirs were complied a decade before the Great Famine, emigration was already a very significant demographic feature which was commented on and recorded by the compilers of the memoirs. The memoirs for Cos. Antrim and Londonderry are unique in that for many of their parishes lists of emigrants were compiled for a brief period in the mid-to-late 1830s. As emigration records these lists are unparalleled. These list identify both the destination of the emigrant and the place of emigration, and religious denomination is given for each emigrant named in the memoir. Published in "Irish Emigration Lists 1833-1839," ed. Brian Mitchell, Genealogical Pub. Co., Baltimore, MD, 1989. You should be able to find a copy in your genealogy library.

    10/24/2007 02:19:51
    1. Re: [IRELAND] New Books/Author -- MULDOWNEY/MULDOWNY surnames
    2. Jean R.
    3. Hi Mary Elizabeth - Your MULDOWNEY surname is fairly rare. On the primary valuation circa 1848-64 at the www.ireland.com/ancestor/ website search, there were 42 MULDOWNEY households in Co. Kilkenny, which is the area you are interested in! This was followed by 19 in Co. Laois (Queen's Co.), Co. Mayo with 15, Co. Carlow 7, Co. Roscommon 6, Cos. Kildare and Leitrim with 3, and Cos. Sligo and Limerick with 1. The variant spelling of MULDOWNY was found in 2 households in Co. Laois and once each in Cos. Longford, Mayo and Tyrone. Per the Matheson survey of births in 1890, there were 5 MULDOWNEY babies born in the province of Connaught and 2 in Leinster. The Ireland.com website said it was a "synonym" for MOLONEY. Didn't explain what the difference was between a surname variation and synonym. Your query - Mary MULDOWNEY's book about women in WW-II apparently contains accounts from and/or about the "common" woman. It may tell more about her on the book's jacket or forward. From what I can gather, the author has a connection to Dublin and apparently is a women's rights "activist." Not certain, however. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Elizabeth Wagner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: [IRELAND] New Books/Author > Hi Jean, > > Would like to know if you have any information on > this Mary Muldowney. Muldowney is a name I am > researching. > > Thank you. > > Mary Elizabeth > > RESEARCHING: McKERNAN/McKIERNAN in Co. Antrim > and Co. Leitrim; > McALLISTER in Co. Antrim; > MULDOWNEY in Co. Kilkenny; and > KEARNEY in Co. Louth

    10/24/2007 02:11:58
    1. [IRELAND] Callaghans from Ireland
    2. Tim Callaghan
    3. I'd like to hear from anyone who has CALLAGHAN ancesters who moved from Ireland to St Helens, England around 1850, particularly a Michael & Ellen Callaghan and son Thomas. Tim

    10/24/2007 12:40:01
    1. [IRELAND] New Books/Author
    2. Mary Elizabeth Wagner
    3. Hi Jean, Would like to know if you have any information on this Mary Muldowney. Muldowney is a name I am researching. Thank you. Mary Elizabeth RESEARCHING: McKERNAN/McKIERNAN in Co. Antrim and Co. Leitrim; McALLISTER in Co. Antrim; MULDOWNEY in Co. Kilkenny; and KEARNEY in Co. Louth __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    10/23/2007 11:30:42
    1. [IRELAND] Two More New Books for 2007
    2. Jean R.
    3. Interesting-sounding new books for 2007, per their reviews: 1. "Hannah's Shame" - A True Life Story, by Derek LEINSTER, 42 Southey Road, Rugby CV22 6HF, England. www.derekleinster.co.uk. ISBN 09551457-08-8 p/b. "The story told in this book is heartrending. In 1941, in Co. Meath, Derek was born to a Protestant mother and a Catholic father who did not marry and could not agree on the religious faith of their child. Either his mother, apparently in her twenties, or her family or friends, placed the child in a Church of Ireland home from where he was subsequently fostered - there was no question of legal adoption in 1940s Ireland. His foster parents, no doubt well meaning and having church connections, can only be described as extremely poor and burdened by family problems. Until he emigrated to England in his early twenties Derek was beset by unremitting poverty and undeserved hardship. Judging by the noble appearance of himself and his wife Carol which is reflected in their four five daughters - and no doubt in their beloved grandchildren and the account, well told in this book - Derek's life is one of very creditable achievement. His mother, whom he eventually identified and met, hugely disappointed him. his father was already dead. Who should compensate him for what happened is a question which continues to trouble him. Not an easily forgotten book." 2. "Every Dark Hour - A History of Kilmainham Jail," by Niamh O'SULLIVAN, Liberties Press, ISBN 978-1-905483-21-1, p/b. "The front of this cold, ugly (Dublin building is dominated by a large stone doorway over which the gallows stood, in frequent use in the squalid class and caste dominated temper of the times of its use as a jail (gaol). Five chained dragons interlock their scaly bodies, stonily snaring over the passing population. One learns that they represent the five serious felonies - murder, rape, theft, treason and piracy. One marvels at the mind of the stone carver who wrought them ... the mind of the administrator who requested them. The walls of Kilmainham cannot talk but there are whispers ... This book, however, is a labour of love. The author deals not only with the political prisoners, some of them the most important people of their day in terms of our political history - but also with the ten-year-old children imprisoned for stealing food, the teenagers hanged for burglary, the 93-year-old sentenced to seven days for vagrancy. The leaders of the 1916 Rebellion were executed in the grim yard. In all, between 1796-1924 over 100,000 souls were incarcerated in the place. Visit when you can - if only for the pleasure of leaving those evil walls behind you."

    10/23/2007 07:27:50
    1. [IRELAND] Two New Books for 2007
    2. Jean R.
    3. Some interesting-sounding new books for 2007, per their reviews: 1. "The Second World War And Irish Women - An Oral History," by Mary MULDOWNEY, Irish Academic press, p/b, ISBN 978-0-7165-2887-6. "Dr. MULDOWNEY drew her material from interviews with less than 30 women and supported it with the Mass Observation diary of Belfast woman Moya WOODSIDE. The women, from a variety of social and educational backgrounds mainly lived in Belfast and Dublin between 1939 and 1945, but some of them went to Britain to take up war work, in factories or in the forces. Women of one class were fondly pictured as watching, waiting and weeping, in wartime; the lower classes were expected to construct meals, clothing and domestic comforts out of the very minimum permitted by the restrictions on food, fuel and clothes ..." 2. "Jack's World - Farming on the Sheep's Head Peninsula 1920-2003," by Sean SHEEHAN with photography by Danny GRALTON and Ciaran WATSON, Atrium-Cork University Press, ISBN 978-0-9552261-1-3, h/b. "Jack Sheehan was one of eleven children born into an impoverished farming family on the Sheep's Head peninsula in southwest Ireland. Growing up in hungry times, he stayed on the farm all his eighty-three years, taking it over when his father died and steadfastly caring for its fields through the dormant 1950s and the better times that came in the decades that followed. He lived to see the eclipse of his farming world and to view with dismay the way encroaching property speculators and consumerism were changing the nature of his landscape. Jack Sheehan was born just as the Irish state was coming into existence and his life is as revealing of that country's history as the more familiar accounts of national figures. "Jack's World's" is illustrated in colour with specially commissioned photographs taken by three people, Danny Gralton, Ciaran Watson and Danny Levy Sheehan, who all knew Jack and know his farm. The book is also illustrated with maps, including one showing the farm's fields and their Irish names that were preserved by Jack, and photographs of early documents relating to his farm's history. The book's unique sources, in addition to the memories of friends and family who knew Jack and shared aspects of his world, include diaries kept by Jack from the early 1930s onwards." Another book review mentions the gorgeous photographs which are entirely supportive of the story, including a stunning view of Jack's Arum lillies. The author is apparently the nephew of the subject.

    10/23/2007 06:59:51
    1. [IRELAND] Ports and ships list from County Cork, 1820-1840 to Canada
    2. dennis hill
    3. Could someone tell me where I could find the names of Ports used in County Cork between 1820--1840, also where to find a list of ships that might have left County Cork on its way to Canada-Can not find my ggrandparents ship that took them to Canada in this time frame. Any help thanks very much Denis H __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    10/23/2007 06:41:59
    1. [IRELAND] obit
    2. Lorri
    3. Death notice in todays Phila Paper oct 2007 Bridget Walsh Conry age 95 from Tullianglug in County Sligo ireland Heart failure in Lower bucks Pa. Hope this helps someone. searching- ALLEN-BARNETT-CARROLL-BURNS GEIGER-Veach -GEARIN-KANE-SMITH-MOYLAN DONAHUE

    10/21/2007 11:10:01
    1. Re: [IRELAND] Jeremiah FLYNN=Catherine KENNEDY ?
    2. Jean R.
    3. Hi Renee -- I believe you would be best served by concentrating on obtaining family documents with (or without) the help of the historical society most familiar with the records of Canandaigua, Ontario, New York. Any document found regarding "your" family can potentially provide more clues. Perhaps an important clue might be found in the given name Jeremiah and the spelling of Catherine (as opposed to Katherine) for county of origin, and whether your FH lore has mention of Scotland, Ulster or a county in the other provinces of Ireland. Unfortunately, the surnames FLYNN and KENNEDY were found together in the same parishes in nearly every Irish county on the Primary Valuation (Griffith's) per www.ireland.com/ancestor/ search at that website. The FLYNN surname on the Primary Valuation (1848-64) was found in most counties but most often in Co. Cork with 472 households, followed by Co. Waterford with 391, Co. Leitrim with 259; Co. Roscommon with 226, Co. Kerry with 183; Co. Mayo with 171; Co. Galway with 156; Co. Tipperary with 146; Co. Limerick with 112; Co. Sligo with 111; Co. Offaly (King's Co.) with 91; Co. Meath with 85; and down from there. KENNEDY: Numerous: all areas. Ir. Ó Cinnéide (helmeted head). A leading sept of Dál gCais who settled in Tipperary. There were other families in Galway and Wicklow and a notable group in Galloway, Scotland, whence many of the Ulster Kennedys. US President Kennedy's ancestors were from Wexford but belonged to the Dál gCais Variations include McKENNEDY, with 7 PV households in Co. Cork; O'KENNEDY with one household each in Co. Limerick and Co. Tipperary. KENEDY with 2 in Co. Waterford and one each in Cos. Sligo and Belfast city. Other variations (not found on the PV) include KINNEDY and MacKENNEDY. For other variations and data (and to check my transcription here) please refer to the website mentioned above. Interestingly, the KENNEDY surname was found most often, BY FAR, in Co. Tipperary with 1112 households; followed by Co. Antrim with 258; Co. Kilkenny with 232; Co. Kerry with 229; Co. Limerick with 223; Co. Down with 211; Co. Donegal with 186; Co. Galway with 185; Co. Offaly (King's Co.) and Co. Derry each with 174; Co. Waterford with 162; Co. Clare with 122; Co. Laois (Queen's Co.) with 111; Co. Wexford with 101; Dublin city with 100; Co. Cork and Belfast city each with 98; Co. Mayo with 89; Co. Roscommon with 87; Co. Armagh with 72; down from there. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Renee Harris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: [IRELAND] Jeremiah FLYNN=Catherine KENNEDY ? > Would like to find the parents and birthplaces of the > following couple: > Jeremiah FLYNN, b. abt. 1823-Ireland & died bet. > 1860-1870 in Canandaigua, Ontario, New York. > Married Catherine KENNEDY about 1850. She was b. > abt. 1831-Ireland & died after 1880 in Canadaigua. > Children were born in Canandaigua, NY: > 1-John Flynn, b. abt. 1851; 2-William, abt. 1853; > 3-Catherine FLYNN, 1855-1926 who md. John HOLLARN; > 4-Jeremiah,b. 1857; 5-Thomas, b. 1859; > 6-Margaret,b.1861; 7-Michael, b. 1865; > 8-Patrick-b. 1866; 9-William, b. 1869. > Would appreciate any help or suggestions. Thanks, > Renee Harris

    10/21/2007 06:40:24
    1. [IRELAND] Interesting online ancestry/rootsweb/myfamily etc acquistion
    2. geniebugged
    3. Here's hoping all this will clean up the Credit Card problems generated from being a paid subscriber ... they have a Fraud alert on the left - this should be very helpful to those who have experienced unauthorized use of CC w/ancestry purchases NOT theirs and def. not relevant to subscription renewals fees http://www.thegenerationsnetwork.com/ and the skinny on the acquisitions http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2007/10/follow-up-ances.html ******************************************************* This is an excellent free newsletter to watch the online development of family histories that we all are beginning to rely on for clues etc http://blog.eogn.com/ Also if you have access to ProQuest via your library system - >>Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter - British Guardian and The Observer Added to ProQuest Historical Newspaper<< This fellow has been one of the most eminent assets of our online genealogy in not only 'how to' but getting results - and pointing us to free sites

    10/21/2007 04:06:59
    1. [IRELAND] Georgian Town of Birr, Co. Offaly - PARSONS, the Earls of Rosse.
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: County Offaly (King's Co.) lies in the heart of Ireland between the Slieve Bloom mountains and the River Shannon and is now a gentle rural part of Ireland. This was the territory of the Ely O'CARROLL clan who ruled here from the 9th century, and there are still signs of the many castles, monasteries and other fortifications from those times. Visitors will also find small, well-maintained towns and villages which welcome walkers, birdwatchers and garden enthusiasts. The Georgian town of Birr (formerly Parsonstown) has elegant 18th century townhouses and a dignified square. The town's glory is surely the demesne of Birr Castle, home to the PARSONS family, the Earls of Rosse. The gardens of Birr Castle are a treasure trove of plantings - there are formal gardens with tumbling roses and intricate flower beds incorporating the family monogram, swathes of colour throughout the year and the tallest-growing box hedges. But in one part of the demesne stands what was the largest telescope in the world, when it was first built in the 1840s by the third earl, William PARSONS (1800-67), an astronomer with connections, apparently, to both York, England, and Monkstown, Co. Cork. Building of the telescope had to be suspended during the Great Irish Famine, but in 1847 it was put into service. Carefully restored as part of a millennium programme, this Leviathan, as it became known, is astounding. The PARSONS family interest in things scientific is explored further in the Historic Science Centre where astronomy charts and photographic equipment, belonging to Rosse ancestors, are on display. PARSONS named the Crab Nebula and The Rosse Crater on the Moon was named after the third earl.

    10/20/2007 06:44:21
    1. Re: [IRELAND] (New) Rootsweb Soundex Converter Website (Surnames) - USA/Canada Border-Crossing Film Set - Thos.HALLORAN/Hanora CONNELLY?
    2. Jean R.
    3. Hi Renee -- It is possible that some of your family members may have crossed the USA/Canadian border after 1895. Check out the microfilmed "Soundex Index To Canadian Border Entries Through the St. Albans, VT District, 1895-1924" at branches of the National Archives (USA) or at your local LDS (Mormon) Family History Center - Film set M1461. While the data was apparently stored in VT, it applies to "aliens" crossing AT ANY POINT along the entire border. You owe it to yourself to investigate this excellent record set, even if you suspect (or know) that the date of emigration took place some years earlier, as your people may have returned to the old country to visit or other relatives may have emigrated. Data includes date of birth, age, where born, personal description (color of hair, height, scars), name and age of travelling companion, last address, address of relative or friend in the "old country," same at the intended destination. While parents' names are not given, the person paying for the trip is. Also given is the date when last in the country, which can lead you to an earlier filmed card of information. Each time an "alien" crossed back and forth across the USA/Canadian border a new card was generated. This film set gives you the name of a particular ship, port and date if one is involved in travel, which can lead to a second film containing the ship's manifest. Some may have taken a ship and gotten off in Quebec City, for example, then taken a train and crossed the border into the USA. The films are soundexed, alphabetized by surname. Individuals with a particular surname (and variations) for the entire time period given (35+ years), will be found on one, at the most, two microfilms, depending on how common the surname is. Access to these films is free at the National Archives and less than $4.00 at your local LDS FHC. I found, to my surprise and delight, several aunts and uncles who emigrated to the USA from Liverpool via Canada on these films, including my father whose card appears on this film even though he emigrated in 1925. I also found a young uncle who was a seaman. At the LDS FHC use the Library Catalogue CD to find this and related films by either keying in M1461 or #1472801; the latter is the number of the first film in that US/CAN film set. You'll need to know the soundex code for the surname you are researching, which turns out to be H465 for both HALLORAN and HOLLARN. Looking at my guide here at home, your H465 entries are found on film #1472994, which covers soundex code H452 John A. - H513 Kristiana. Understanding Soundex page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson9.htm#Soundex RootsWeb's Soundex Converter: http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Renee Harris" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 7:35 PM > Subject: [IRELAND] Thomas Halloran=Hanora Connelly ? > > >> Am looking for the parents & birthplaces of the >> following family: >> Thomas HALLORAN(HOLLARN) b. abt. 1820 & married to >> Hanora CONNOLLY b. bet. 1820-1827(County Clare?) >> Had children born in Ireland: 1-Margaret,b.1847; >> 2-William,b. 1848-9 & md. Mary CUMMINS 17 May 1876 in >> Canandaigua, NY; 3-Anna,b.1854; >> 4-John Hollarn(Halloran) b. abt. Feb 1855-Ireland- >> md. Catherine FLYNN in Canandaigua, Ontario,New York >> on 8 May 1876 and later moved to Buffalo, Erie, New >> York where he died in 1913. >> Family probably emigrated to New York bet. >> 1855-1875. Would appreciate any help or suggestions. >> Thanks, Renee Harris >

    10/19/2007 04:17:16
    1. [IRELAND] Jeremiah FLYNN=Catherine KENNEDY ?
    2. Renee Harris
    3. Would like to find the parents and birthplaces of the following couple: Jeremiah FLYNN, b. abt. 1823-Ireland & died bet. 1860-1870 in Canandaigua, Ontario, New York. Married Catherine KENNEDY about 1850. She was b. abt. 1831-Ireland & died after 1880 in Canadaigua. Children were born in Canandaigua, NY: 1-John Flynn, b. abt. 1851; 2-William, abt. 1853; 3-Catherine FLYNN, 1855-1926 who md. John HOLLARN; 4-Jeremiah,b. 1857; 5-Thomas, b. 1859; 6-Margaret,b.1861; 7-Michael, b. 1865; 8-Patrick-b. 1866; 9-William, b. 1869. Would appreciate any help or suggestions. Thanks, Renee Harris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    10/19/2007 01:47:24
    1. [IRELAND] Thomas Halloran=Hanora Connelly ?
    2. Renee Harris
    3. Am looking for the parents & birthplaces of the following family: Thomas HALLORAN(HOLLARN) b. abt. 1820 & married to Hanora CONNOLLY b. bet. 1820-1827(County Clare?) Had children born in Ireland: 1-Margaret,b.1847; 2-William,b. 1848-9 & md. Mary CUMMINS 17 May 1876 in Canandaigua, NY; 3-Anna,b.1854; 4-John Hollarn(Halloran) b. abt. Feb 1855-Ireland- md. Catherine FLYNN in Canandaigua, Ontario,New York on 8 May 1876 and later moved to Buffalo, Erie, New York where he died in 1913. Family probably emigrated to New York bet. 1855-1875. Would appreciate any help or suggestions. Thanks, Renee Harris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    10/19/2007 01:35:12
    1. [IRELAND] Edward HARRIGAN -- "My Dad's Dinner Pail"
    2. Jean R.
    3. MY DAD'S DINNER PAIL Preserve that old kettle, so blackened and worn; It belonged to my father before I was born; It hung in a corner beyant on a nail -- 'Twas the emblem of labor, my dad's dinner pail. Chorus: It glistened like silver, so sparkling and bright; I am fond of the trifle that held his wee bite; In summer or winter, in snow, rain or hail, I've carried that kettle, my dad's dinner pail. When the bell rang for mealtime my father'd come down -- He'd eat with the workmen about on the ground; He'd share with the laborer and he'd go bail, You would never reach the bottom of dad's dinner pail. If the day should be rainy my father'd stop home, And he'd polish the kettle as clane as a stone; He'd joke with my mother and me he would whale If I put a finger on dad's dinner pail. There's a place for the coffee and also for bread, The corned beef and praties, and oft it was said: "Go fill it with porter, with beer or with ale;" The drink would taste sweeter from dad's dinner pail. -- Edward Harrigan, "The Best Loved Poems of the American People," ed. Hazel Felleman (Doubleday/1936).

    10/18/2007 05:22:28
    1. [IRELAND] Portumna, Co. Galway -- Denis IRELAND (1936)
    2. Jean R.
    3. SNIPPET: Portumna, Co. Galway -- "This morning in Portleix we were to have begun a trip to the Comeragh Mountains in Co. Waterford, but since snow could be seen lying on the distant peaks of the mountains in Co. Wicklow we decided to visit the annual point-to-point meeting of the East Galways near Portumna instead. Our route lies due west, through the northern end of Co. Tipperary, pleasant rolling wooded country, with here and there a glimpse of fine estates. Then as Lough Derg and the Shannon come in sight the country becomes even more pleasantly wooded. Here in the west there is no snow, and the weather is typical Irish April, heavy rain-clouds interspersed with bursts of brilliant sunshine. The meeting too is a typical Irish point-to-point; there seems to be very little to distinguish these events, in Co. Down or Galway -- except that here the crowd contains perhaps a slightly higher percentage of oddities and "characters" than would a similar crowd in the North. A gentleman in a top-hat sings like a bird before inviting the crowd to invest in his sweepstake lottery. Then there is the inevitable philanthropist dressed as a jockey who apparently tours the country giving out winners, to a perpetual refrain of "What did I tell you?" Delightful occupation. Here he is again, as much at home in Galway as he was last year in Co. Antrim, and still moving at his priest-like task. The crowds sway and push; servant-girls from the big houses in the neighbourhood giggle as they lose their sixpences at roulette or spotting the lady. The "quality" here is to be distinguished by a certain air of genteel shabbiness; ancient riding breeches, dilapidated tweed coats patched at the elbows with leather, almost historical mackintoshes -- nobody here seems to have more than ten shillings to bet with, and everybody seems to be happy, all rubbing elbows in a crowd that contains indifferently the most ancient names in Debrett and dilapidated tinkers with no seats to their pants." -- Denis Ireland, "From the Irish Shore," 1936

    10/18/2007 05:11:24
    1. [IRELAND] Sinclair
    2. Dianne & Lyndon Wild
    3. Thank you to everyone who helped with my search for Joseph, I think I have found his family in the Grifftin Valuation register, it all seems to be fitting together, so again thank you Dianne

    10/18/2007 03:54:48
    1. [IRELAND] Cork "Cold Case" File Solved in 1885
    2. Cathy Joynt Labath
    3. Emmetsburg Democrat; Emmetsburg, Iowa, Wednesday, November 4, 1885 CRIME IN IRELAND A Remarkable Case In Court at Cork London dispatch: a most remarkable case is on the docket of the Cork assizes, the winter term of which has just opened. Seven years ago, the people of Castletown Roche were startled by the sudden disappearance of the wife of Thomas Sheehan, a well-to-do popular resident, and his son and daughter. The father, who had been in England several days prior to the disappearance, immediately returned home, and every effort was made to obtain some information regarding the whereabouts of the missing people. Large sums of money were spent in the quest, but it was without result; the trio having disappeared as quickly as though the earth opened and swallowed them up. There were rumors of elopement and foul play, but every clue failed of confirmation. Years went by, but the matter was not forgotten and has furnished many a subject for speculation and chat to the village gossips around the winter fireside in huts and cabins. But a few months ago the neighborhood was astonished by the report that the mystery had been solved; that the three had been brutally murdered by their son and brother and the bodies hidden in an abandoned well. The rumors were confirmed by the arrest of William Sheehan and David Browne, and by the finding of the bodies, or rather of the remains, little more than the bones and skulls being left. The solicitor general allowed a reporter to make a copy of the principal evidence for the crown. It is a confession made by John Duane, father of a young man who admitted that he assisted in hiding the bodies. The confession is as follows: "On the day of the murder William Sheehan said to me,' Johnny, you won't tell what I'm going to do to-day.' He did not say what it was nor did I know what he meant. This was about an hour before anything took place. I was standing in the yard just outside the stable door. Thomas Sheehan first went into the stable and William followed him in. David Browne was also inside. Suddenly William picked up a club and struck his brother twice upon the head. He dropped, and I could see that he was killed -- dead. Then Will and Browne crossed over and went into the house, I following at a little distance. Will's mother and his little sister Hannah were in the little room below the kitchen. Will went behind his mother, struck her on the head with a club, and then he caught her by the throat and choked her until she was dead. At the same time Browne struck Hannah on the head with the same club, knocked her down and choked her until she was black in the face and ceased to breathe. I had been standing at the door all this time and Will asked me if I would help him take the bodies over to the stable. I was afraid they would kill me and consented. Next morning before daylight we put the bodies into the buggy and drove to the well. William throwed them in, the old woman first, then Hannah, and then Tom. After this we threw in a lot of stones and covered them over with white thorn bushes. Then we went back to the house, got some girls to come in, and played the concertina and danced all day. The motive of the crime was the desire on William Sheehan's part to obtain control of the property after his father's death and it is believed that at one time he contemplated making away with his sire. Both Brown and Duane knew that if they "gave away" the details of the terrible crime they would stand a chance of being hanged and hence the remarkable way in which the secret has been kept for so many years. There is no doubt but that Sheehan and Brown will go to the scaffold, while Duane is likely to seek a long term for his share in the bloody deed. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

    10/17/2007 11:43:00