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Hi - Been checkimg the Irish Immigration CD - and watching other records as I transcribe but haven't located anything yet Do have one Q -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Wingrove Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Roll call s - ref submitting Eliza Jane Mcilwaine, born January 5 1889 Ballymena Antrim, daughter of Hugh and Sarah Jane Mcilwiane (maiden name of Sarah Jane Mcilwaine was Darragh. Ist husband's name was Matthew Herbison) Eliza Jane Mcilwaine came to Canada in 1912. She worked as a domestic in Manitoba. She married John Andrew McClelland on June 19 1919 Port Arthur Ontario (now known as Thunder Bay Ont) Her sisters Annie and Belle came to Ontario about 1924. Eliza's brother was a school principal in Ireland and died in a motorcycle accident in 1967. Joseph Storey Fletcher born approx 1893 in Antrim, Antrim Ireland. Son of David and Sarah Jane Fletcher. Sarah's maiden name was Murdock. There were at least two other sons and one daughter, Margaret. Family history has it that Sarah Jane may have spent time in a mental institution in Ireland. Joseph came to Toronto Ontario Canada between 1810-1816. He enlisted in the Canadian Forces during WW1 Thanks Elaine -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Trudy Fielding Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Roll call s - ref submitting David & Elizabeth Fielding from Ireland to Quebec in 1819 were W. Methodists. Trudy Fielding -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of geniebugged Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Roll call s - ref submitting It really helps and definitely catches a 'would be helper's eye' if you can add dates/area [Location] As in: BYRNES: Cnty Derry, Ireland - to VT ca 1845 over Canada ONEAL: Cnty Derry, Ireland: Ireland to VT ca 1854 over Canada Aka O'Neil/O'Neill And a wonderful site to check - growing by volumes of records of information submitted daily - http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/main.htm In particular check the LAND records Cork - Hundreds of Surnames here Many as tenants - when the estates were sold at auctions - There is a PICO search engine on every page - If Cnty known - go to that particular site to narrow in your results. M. Taylor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Eliza Jane Mcilwaine, born January 5 1889 Ballymena Antrim, daughter of Hugh and Sarah Jane Mcilwiane (maiden name of Sarah Jane Mcilwaine was Darragh. Ist husband's name was Matthew Herbison) Eliza Jane Mcilwaine came to Canada in 1912. She worked as a domestic in Manitoba. She married John Andrew McClelland on June 19 1919 Port Arthur Ontario (now known as Thunder Bay Ont) Her sisters Annie and Belle came to Ontario about 1924. Eliza's brother was a school principal in Ireland and died in a motorcycle accident in 1967. Joseph Storey Fletcher born approx 1893 in Antrim, Antrim Ireland. Son of David and Sarah Jane Fletcher. Sarah's maiden name was Murdock. There were at least two other sons and one daughter, Margaret. Family history has it that Sarah Jane may have spent time in a mental institution in Ireland. Joseph came to Toronto Ontario Canada between 1810-1816. He enlisted in the Canadian Forces during WW1 Thanks Elaine -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Trudy Fielding Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Roll call s - ref submitting David & Elizabeth Fielding from Ireland to Quebec in 1819 were W. Methodists. Trudy Fielding -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of geniebugged Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Roll call s - ref submitting It really helps and definitely catches a 'would be helper's eye' if you can add dates/area [Location] As in: BYRNES: Cnty Derry, Ireland - to VT ca 1845 over Canada ONEAL: Cnty Derry, Ireland: Ireland to VT ca 1854 over Canada Aka O'Neil/O'Neill And a wonderful site to check - growing by volumes of records of information submitted daily - http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/main.htm In particular check the LAND records Cork - Hundreds of Surnames here Many as tenants - when the estates were sold at auctions - There is a PICO search engine on every page - If Cnty known - go to that particular site to narrow in your results. M. Taylor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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It really helps and definitely catches a 'would be helper's eye' if you can add dates/area [Location] As in: BYRNES: Cnty Derry, Ireland - to VT ca 1845 over Canada ONEAL: Cnty Derry, Ireland: Ireland to VT ca 1854 over Canada Aka O'Neil/O'Neill And a wonderful site to check - growing by volumes of records of information submitted daily - http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/main.htm In particular check the LAND records Cork - Hundreds of Surnames here Many as tenants - when the estates were sold at auctions - There is a PICO search engine on every page - If Cnty known - go to that particular site to narrow in your results. M. Taylor

David & Elizabeth Fielding from Ireland to Quebec in 1819 were W. Methodists. Trudy Fielding -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of geniebugged Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Roll call s - ref submitting It really helps and definitely catches a 'would be helper's eye' if you can add dates/area [Location] As in: BYRNES: Cnty Derry, Ireland - to VT ca 1845 over Canada ONEAL: Cnty Derry, Ireland: Ireland to VT ca 1854 over Canada Aka O'Neil/O'Neill And a wonderful site to check - growing by volumes of records of information submitted daily - http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/main.htm In particular check the LAND records Cork - Hundreds of Surnames here Many as tenants - when the estates were sold at auctions - There is a PICO search engine on every page - If Cnty known - go to that particular site to narrow in your results. M. Taylor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Descendants of Michael Quigley Generation No. 1 1. MICHAEL1 QUIGLEY1 was born Abt. 1795 in Ireland. He married MARY CASSIDY1. She was born Abt. 1795 in Ireland. Notes for MICHAEL QUIGLEY: According to the death certificate of his son John in 1881 Michael's name was Quagley. More About MICHAEL QUIGLEY: Occupation: Farmer Child of MICHAEL QUIGLEY and MARY CASSIDY is: 2. i. JOHN2 QUIGLEY, b. Abt. 1816, Ireland; d. 28 Jan 1881, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Generation No. 2 2. JOHN2 QUIGLEY (MICHAEL1) was born Abt. 1816 in Ireland, and died 28 Jan 1881 in Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland1. He married ELLEN WARD2 Abt. 1850, daughter of BERNARD WARD and BRIDGET MCQUILLAN. She was born Abt. 1825 in Ireland3, and died 19 Nov 1883 in Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland4. Notes for JOHN QUIGLEY: Died: 28 January 1881 at 8.30 pm, 21 Queen Street, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland. The name on John's death certificate is Quagley instead of Quigley Cause of his death was bronchitis over 13 days. Children of JOHN QUIGLEY and ELLEN WARD are: 3. i. JAMES3 QUIGLEY, b. Abt. 1851, Co. Monaghan, Ireland; d. 28 Oct 1923, Hamilton St, Govan, Glasgow, Scotland. 4. ii. CATHERINE ANN QUIGLEY, b. Abt. 1852, Co. Monaghan, Ireland; d. 30 Mar 1903, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland. iii. EDWARD QUIGLEY, b. Abt. 1855, Co. Monaghan, Ireland. More About EDWARD QUIGLEY: Occupation: Ships Carpenter iv. JOHN QUIGLEY, b. Abt. 1861, Co. Monaghan, Ireland. More About JOHN QUIGLEY: Occupation: Blacksmith v. BRIDGET QUIGLEY, b. Bet. 1858 - 1866, Co. Monaghan, Ireland; m. CHARLES SHANNON, 04 Jun 1895, St Anthony's Chapel, Govan; b. 1861, Ireland. Generation No. 3 3. JAMES3 QUIGLEY (JOHN2, MICHAEL1)5 was born Abt. 1851 in Co. Monaghan, Ireland, and died 28 Oct 1923 in Hamilton St, Govan, Glasgow, Scotland. He married ELLEN FURREY 23 Nov 1876 in Govan, Lanarkshire, daughter of EDWARD FUREY and MARY SCHOONER. She was born 1854 in Ireland, and died 07 Jan 1938 in Govan, Glasgow, Scotland. Notes for JAMES QUIGLEY: 1891 Census Scotland: 132 Harmony Row, Govan, Lanarkshire (GROS Vol: 646/2 43 22) 1901 Census Scotland: 46 Harmony Row, Govan, Lanarkshire (GROS Vol: 646/2 30 15) Notes for ELLEN FURREY: Also Furey 1891 Census Scotland: 132 Harmony Row, Govan, Lanarkshire (GROS Vol: 646/2 43 22) 1901 Census Scotland: 46 Harmony Row, Govan, Lanarkshire (GROS Vol: 646/2 30 15) Children of JAMES QUIGLEY and ELLEN FURREY are: 5. i. JOHN JAMES4 QUIGLEY, b. 09 May 1879, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland; d. 03 Jan 1938, Logie Street, Govan, Glasgow, Scotland. 6. ii. EDWARD QUIGLEY, b. 28 Jul 1881, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland; d. 13 Dec 1917, 44 Hamilton St, Govan, Glasgow, Scotland. 7. iii. HUGH QUIGLEY, b. 29 Sep 1883, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland; d. 29 Oct 1955, PossilPark, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. 8. iv. FRANCIS QUIGLEY, b. 28 Dec 1886, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland; d. 16 Apr 1931, Anderson St, Kinning Park, Glasgow, Scotland. v. MARY-ELLEN QUIGLEY5, b. 15 Feb 1888, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland; d. 16 Sep 1890, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland. vi. MICHAEL QUIGLEY, b. 27 Jan 1890, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland; d. 02 Apr 1942, 50 Nethan St, Govan, Glasgow, Scotland. Notes for MICHAEL QUIGLEY: 1891 Census Scotland: 132 Harmony Row, Govan, Lanarkshire (GROS Vol: 646/2 43 22) 1901 Census Scotland: 46 Harmony Row, Govan, Lanarkshire (GROS Vol: 646/2 30 15) More About MICHAEL QUIGLEY: Occupation: Shipyard Labourer vii. MARGARET QUIGLEY, b. 03 Nov 1892, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland; d. 24 Dec 1952, Govan, Glasgow, Scotland; m. ALEXANDER BROWN, 15 Dec 1914, St Margaret's Church, Pollockshields, Glasgow; b. Abt. 1892, Scotland. Notes for MARGARET QUIGLEY: 1901 Census Scotland: 46 Harmony Row, Govan, Lanarkshire (GROS Vol: 646/2 30 15) viii. MARY-ELLEN QUIGLEY, b. 28 Dec 1894, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland; d. 02 Mar 1941, Govan, Glasgow, Scotland; m. JOHN MCKENNA, 28 Jan 1915, St Margaret's Church, Glasgow; b. Abt. 1893, Scotland. Notes for MARY-ELLEN QUIGLEY: 1901 Census Scotland: 46 Harmony Row, Govan, Lanarkshire (GROS Vol: 646/2 30 15) More About MARY-ELLEN QUIGLEY: Occupation: Biscuit Factory Worker More About JOHN MCKENNA: Occupation: Commision Agent's Clerk & First Aid worker ix. KATE QUIGLEY, b. 25 Mar 1897, Govan, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; d. 31 Mar 1897, Govan, Glasgow, Lanarkshire. Notes for KATE QUIGLEY: Cause of Death: Birth Debility 4. CATHERINE ANN3 QUIGLEY (JOHN2, MICHAEL1) was born Abt. 1852 in Co. Monaghan, Ireland, and died 30 Mar 1903 in Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland6. She married DANIEL LYNAGH 13 Apr 1880 in Roman Catholic Chapel, Govan, son of MATHEW LYNAGH and SARAH MCGINLAY. He was born Abt. 1850 in Co. Donegal, Ireland. Notes for CATHERINE ANN QUIGLEY: Residences 1880 Marriage: 21 Queen Street, Govan Lanarkshire. 1881 Census: 17 Langlands Road, Govan Lanarkshire. 1891 Census: 23 Thomson Street, Govan Lanarkshire. 1903 Death: 82 Harmony Row, Govan Lanarkshire. More About CATHERINE ANN QUIGLEY: Census: 1881, 17 Langlands Road, Govan Lanarkshire Occupation: Shopkeeper Notes for DANIEL LYNAGH: 1880 Marriage: 7 Langlands Road, Govan Lanarkshire. 1881 Census: 17 Langlands Road, Govan Lanarkshire. 1891 Census: 23 Thomson Street, Govan Lanarkshire. >From Rootsweb February 27th, 1884. Marriage at Ramelton RC chapel. Michael Lynagh of Govan, Scotland to Catharine Stewart of Croaghan. Could be brother of Daniel. More About DANIEL LYNAGH: Census: 1881, 17 Langlands Road, Govan Lanarkshire Occupation: Fish Merchant, Butter & Egg Merchant Children of CATHERINE QUIGLEY and DANIEL LYNAGH are: 9. i. DANIEL4 LYNAGH, b. 01 Aug 1882, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland; d. 17 Apr 1962, Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland. ii. JOHN LYNAGH7, b. 30 Sep 1883, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland8. Notes for JOHN LYNAGH: Birth: 22 Harmony Row, Govan. 1891 Census: 23 Thomson Street, Govan Lanarkshire iii. MICHAEL LYNAGH9, b. 15 Jan 1885, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland10. Notes for MICHAEL LYNAGH: Birth: 22 Harmony Row, Govan. 1891 Census: 23 Thomson Street, Govan Lanarkshire iv. MARY-ELLEN LYNAGH, b. 03 Jul 1886, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland11. Notes for MARY-ELLEN LYNAGH: Birth: 874 Govan Road. 1891 Census: 23 Thomson Street, Govan Lanarkshire More About MARY-ELLEN LYNAGH: Occupation: 1891 Census Scotland v. PETER LYNAGH, b. 16 Dec 1887, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland12. Notes for PETER LYNAGH: Birth: 874 Govan Road, Govan. 1891 Census: 23 Thomson Street, Govan Lanarkshire More About PETER LYNAGH: Occupation: 1891 Census Scotland vi. SARAH LYNAGH, b. 28 Oct 1889, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland13; d. Apr 1974, Shotts, Lanarkshire, Scotland14. Notes for SARAH LYNAGH: 1891 Census: 23 Thomson Street, Govan Lanarkshire More About SARAH LYNAGH: Occupation: 1891 Census Scotland. vii. JAMES LYNAGH, b. 05 Aug 1892, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland15; d. 26 Jun 1893, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland16. Notes for JAMES LYNAGH: Birth: 23 Thomson Street, Govan Death: 23 Thomson Street, Govan, COD: Diarrhoea. viii. CATHERINE ANN LYNAGH, b. 23 Aug 1893, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland17. Notes for CATHERINE ANN LYNAGH: Born: 23 Thomson Street, Govan. ix. MARGARET LYNAGH, b. 26 Jun 1896, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland18; d. 09 Jul 1896, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland19. Notes for MARGARET LYNAGH: Birth: 23 Thomson Street, Govan. Death: 23 Thomson Street, Govan. COD: Icterus Neonatorum Generation No. 4

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:34:53 -0500 <[email protected]> wrote: Hello [email protected], > hELLO LIST :what is this roll call???? Joe THANK YOU! Simply a list of names, in this case, being researched. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" This is the fifty first state of the USA Heartland - The The

Hello Valerie I would guess that it means he lived on a private income, such as interest on investments or a private pension - similar to 'annituant' on census returns. Brenda On 18 Nov 2007, at 04:15, mon terey wrote: > Regarding occupations, what might it mean when it says the father of > the groom's occupation is "private"? > Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html

Hi Jean, Just an FYI that my ancestors were some of the families mentioned. They were KERR's and HENDERSON's, probably somehow related, who were born in the northern part of County Sligo in the 1790 to 1805 timeframe. They joined other families leaving for Canada in 1823, probably from Sligo Town. The went to the port of Quebec City and were supposed to go to one county but were refused that. They were told to go settle in Argenteuil County - on the northern site of the St. Lawrence River. The initial town was "Township of Gore," and that area is now in the towns of Lakefield and Lachute. There is a List for "the former Township of Gore" where people can mention other families in Argenteuil County. (County now has new name.) No one knows the name of the ship, and I don't believe there is a passenger list anywhere. So, we don't know who else traveled with the KERR's and HENDERSON's. (If there is information, I'm not remembering.) An FYI is that there were other KERR's and HENDERSON's who arrived around the same time, but settled in other Counties in Quebec Province, and some settled in the Maritime Provinces. One who was probably related was a Dawson KERR who initially settled in Nova Scotia or New Brunswick, came to live in the Township of Gore for a few years, and then moved on to the Ontario Province. And, a few couples moved to Compton County in Quebec Province, including my ancestors, in the 1860's, and they seem to have been related to the KERR's who had settled there previously. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) P.S. There are hundreds of descendants of the KERR and HENDERSON family-group from the 1820's, and "none" of us can find out who their parents were -- back in County Sligo, Ireland ! And, the "Sligo Heritage Center" did not help at all !! Remember to check the archives of all the Lists and Boards for your surnames and place-names. And, please remember to check the on-line auctions for for your surnames and place-names. We may have arrived on different ships but we're all in the same boat now. :o) (unknown author)

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WISHES FOR WILLIAM These things I wish you for our friendship's sake -- A sunburnt thatch, a door to face the sun At westering, the noise of homing rooks; A kind, old lazy chair, a courtly cat To rub against your knees; Shelves of well-chosen books; I wish you these. I wish you friends whose wisdom makes them kind, Well-leisured friends to share your evening's peace, Friends who can season knowledge with a laugh; A hedge of lavender, a patch of thyme, With sage and marjoram and rosemary, A damask rosebush and a hive of bees, And cabbages that hold the morning dew, A blackbird in the orchard boughs - all these, And -- God bless you. Children, no matter whose, to watch for you With flower faces at your garden gate, And one to watch the clock with eager eyes, Saying: "He's late -- he's late." -- Winifred M. Letts (born 1882)

THE SPIRES OF OXFORD I saw the spires of Oxford As I was passing by, The gray spires of Oxford Against a pearl-gray sky, My heart was with the Oxford men Who went abroad to die. The years go fast in Oxford, The golden years and gay, The hoary Colleges look down On careless boys at play, But when the bugles sounded war They put their games away. They left the peaceful river, The cricket-field, the quad, The shaven lawns of Oxford To seek a bloody sod -- They gave their merry youth away For country and for God. God rest you, happy gentlemen, Who laid your good lives down, Who took the khaki and the gun Instead of cap and gown. God brings you to a fairer place Than even Oxford town. -- Winifred M. Letts (b. 1882)

Hi Valerie -- What year and what specific record might you be referring to? An Irish record? J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mon terey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Old Occupations In Records > > Hello, > Regarding occupations, what might it mean when it says the father of the > groom's occupation is "private"? > Thank you. > Valerie C.> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:35:21 -0500> Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Old > Occupations In Records> >

SNIPPET: If your Scottish or Irish ancestors migrated to America in the 19th century, there is a good chance that they did not come directly from the British Isles, but from Canada. They may have first crossed the Atlantic as members of a government-sponsored settlement group. Two such groups settled in the Ottawa Valley in the 1820s. Several thousand Scots, known collectively as the Lanark Society Settlers, came there in 1820 and 1821, while Irish immigrants, the Peter Robinson Settlers, arrived in 1823 and 1825. Many of them settled in the same part of Upper Canada. Although there was no previous connection between the two groups, their reasons for migrating were similar - poverty and unemployment headed the list. In the case of the Irish, those ills were compounded by religious discrimination. Although many of the harsh penal laws which restricted the rights of Roman Catholics and some Protestant groups had been rescinded, some were still in effect until 1829. After the Napoleonic Wars, there was widespread economic distress in the British Isles. This ended in 1815, but when prices fell as cheap grain, meat, and consumer goods were imported from abroad, it negatively affected the livelihood of farm laborers and craftsmen. Thousands of discharged war veterans also swelled the ranks of the unemployed. In Scotland the weavers were hit particularly hard; the demand for army blankets and uniforms had dwindled, and other woolen goods became a glut on the market because people had less purchasing power. Ireland's woes were compounded by a failure of the potato crop caused by a disease known as potato curl, different from the fungus responsible for the terrible famine years of the 1840s) in 1821; this was a disaster in a country where poorer classes subsisted on potatoes and buttermilk. The British government was under pressure to do something to alleviate the situation. Emigration seemed to be the answer, provided sufficient inducement could be offered to make it attractive to people who had seldom traveled more than a few miles from home. The emigration solution proposed by the British government was not entirely altruistic. The 1812 War between the U. S. and the Canadas had been concluded by treaty in 1814, but there was a lingering fear that hostilities could break out again. For some years afterward the British Army had manned forts and garrisons in Upper and Lower Canada, but they were too costly to maintain. The plan was to replace them with settlements filled with men loyal to the Crown, who could form militia units to be called into service in case of need. In Scotland, hundreds of families, many of them unemployed weavers, formed themselves into more than 40 emigration societies preparing to move to Upper Canada. Some were from Glasgow, others from the surrounding countryside. Few of the weavers had worked in factories; most had worked in their own homes, using rented looms. In Canada, these families were known as "the Lanark Society Settlers," although there was no emigration society of that name. That was a blanket terms for members of emigration societies who settled at New Lanark. The actual groups had many different names, such as Springbank, Muslin Street, Glasgow Union Wrights, and the Lesmahagow Society. Each adult male was allocated 100 acres of land which he could own outright for a registration fee of ten pounds and after performing set duties, including clearing a certain acreage of land and building a dwelling house. Tools, seeds, and basic household goods were supplied, and each family received a financial loan in several installments. This money had to be spent in specified ways and was meant to be repaid later. Many of these loans were eventually forgiven because it was years before profits were able to be made from the land. Cost of the transatlantic passage was three pounds for an adult, less for a child, but only a few of the emigrants could afford to pay their own way. Others were assisted by funds raised by public subscription. The first group of families left in 1820, traveling on the ships, "Commerce," "Prompt" and "Brock." Others followed in 1821, on the "Commerce, " "David of London," Earl of Buckinghamshire," and "George Canning." After a grueling march from Quebec City, traveling by boat, wagon, and on foot, they were given land in the adjoining townships of Dalhousie, Lanark, North Sherbrooke, and Ramsay, in what is now Lanark County, a short distance from Ottowa. Meanwhile, a response was sent from Britain's Dept. of Colonial Affairs to Sir John Beverly ROBINSON, Attny. Gen. for Upper Canada, asking him to find a knowledgeable person to travel to Ireland to recruit families there. Sir John chose his brother, Peter ROBINSON, a member of the Legislative Assembly of Upper Canada representing York (now Toronto). Robinson went to the south of Ireland, where he set up recruiting stations with the assistance of the local magistrates and clergy. While the scheme was meant for the relief of the poor, a handful of tradespeople, such as blacksmiths, carpenters, shoemakers, and coopers, were included as being necessary to the backwoods settlements. Only people of "good character" were offered the chance to participate, but it was later discovered that a few men of dubious reputation were given glowing reference by magistrates who saw this as a great way to rid their districts of notorious troublemakers. Once ROBINSON had allayed the fears of the people, the response was enormous. For those who were struggling, the prospect of 100 acres of free land for every male over 19 was overwhelming. Free passage, free rations for a year, tools, and basic household goods provided a further inducement. In the spring of 1823, the first group of settlers left Cork Harbor for a two-month voyage on board the ships "Hebe" and "Stakesby." Some of his people found land in Lanark and Ramsay, while others located in the nearby townships of Beckwith, Pakenham, Huntley, and Goulbourn. The last two were later incorporated into Carleton Co. Two years later ROBINSON returned to Ireland and brought out a much larger group, traveling on the ships "Albion," "Amity," Brunswick, " "Elizabeth, " "Fortitude," "John Barry," "Regulus," "Resolution," and "Star.O" Most were taken to a group of townships in another part of Ontario, surrounding the town of Peterborough, which they named in ROBINSON's honor. Many of the families who came as Lanark Society and Peter Robinson settlers were joined by relatives as time went on, although these later arrivals had to pay their own way. Additional Scots came in the 1820s and 1830's, while the great Famine of the 1840's brought numerous people from Ireland. Ninety percent of the Peter Robinson settlers were Roman Catholic, while the Scots were primarily Presbyterian. During the 19th century, a large number of these new Canadians migrated to the U.S. -- Excerpts, Carol McCuaig's article, "Ancestry" magazine Sept/Oct 1996

Just want to thank everyone for their help, it was greatly appreciated. Jean

BALLINA CHRONICLE Ballina, Co. Mayo Wednesday, October 9, 1850 REFORMATION IN DUBLIN On Sunday the Rev. Richard Swayne, late a priest of the Church of Rome and member of the Order of Carmelites, with two other respectable persons, renounced and abjured the errors of popery under the spiritual direction of the Rev. Thomas Scott, and subsequently received holy communion in St. Thomas's Church. Mr. Swayne is the author of the letter recently addressed to the Most Rev. Paul Cullen, titular primate of the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland, entitled "Rome tried by herself and Found Guilty." He is on probation with the Reformed Romanist Priests' Protection Society. -- Evening Herald. EDMUND AND CHARLES KEAN Charles Kean, the tragedian, was born at Waterford on the 18th of January, 1811. His mother, Mary Chambers, was also a native of Waterford, descended from the respectable family of Cuffe, long settled in that county. - Charles Kean entered Eton as an "Oppidan," his father fixed his allowance for board and education at 300l. per annum. He remained at Eton three years. Edmund Kean might have maintained his family in all the elegancies of life, and left behind him 50,000l. if habits of irregularity and reckless extravagance had not gradually settled upon him. Charles Kean fortunately had contracted no private debts - a rare occurence in an Etonian. He made his way to London, and hastened immediately to his mother's lodgings. He found her in sickness, in sorrow, and in poverty. The young man first made his appearance on any stage in Drury-lane theatre on the 1st October, 1827, in Young Norval. The father and son acted together for the first and only time in London, on the 26th March, 1833. The play was Othello. The Moor, as usual, by Edmund Kean, Iago by Charles Kean and Desdemona by Miss Ellen Tree. After the first scene, Kean observed, 'Charles is getting on very well to-night-he's acting very well; I suppose that's because he's acting with me.' He was very feeble but by the help of brandy and water he went on stoutly till the commencement of the third act. He held up until the celebrated 'Farewell,' which he uttered with all his former pathos; but on concluding it, after making one or two steps towards his son, and attempting his speech, 'Villain!, be sure,' his head sank on his son's shoulder and the tragedian's acting was at an end. His son, assisted by other persons, carried him to his dressing room, and laid him on the sofa. He was removed to Richmond, where he died on the 15th of May, and was buried in the churchyard at Richmond, where his son erected a tablet to his memory. A sliver claret jug valued at 100l. was presented to him in London by a deputation of gentlemen from Waterford, inscribed as follows: - "Presented to Charles Kean, Esq., as a token of esteem for his private character and admiration of his talents, by a few friends, in his native city of Waterford, June 28th, 1838." On the 30th of March, 1838, he received the high compliment of a public dinner in the saloon of Drury-lane theatre, on which occasion, he was also presented with a magnificent silver vase, value 200l. "by the admirers of his distinguished talents." On the 29th of January, 1842, occurred the most auspicious event in his life - he was married in the Church of St. Thomas in Dublin, to Miss Ellen Tree. By this Charles Kean obtained a large addition to his worldly means, and an invaluable co-operator in his theatrical career. This marriage took place on the last day of their Dublin engagement and on that same evening, by an odd coincidence, they performed together in The Honeymoon. On the 30th of March, 1849, the widow of Edmund Kean died at Keydell, in Hampshire, the county residence of her son and where she had found a happy retreat during the closing years of her chequered existence. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

THE CONNAUGHT JOURNAL Galway, Thursday, February 3, 1825 LIMERICK, JAN 26 - By the exertions of W.H. Pearse, Esq., C.C., Patrick Molony, charged with being the leader of a gang who murdered Connell at Bilboa, was apprehended on Saturday last, in a Glen, near Keeper Mountain, whither he had fled for safety; he was lodged in the county gaol on Sunday last. On the evening of Wednesday last, the Police of Ballingarry found a man, named Richard Morrison, lying in a dyke, near Ballinleena, in a wounded state, and speechless. An inquest, which was attended by Surgeon Franklin, jun., has been since held on the body, when it appeared that the side of his head had been beaten in by a stone or some flat substance. A person, named Thomas Roche, who absconded, is charged with the murder. On the night of the 8th inst., a person, named Ryan, was found dead in the street of Galbally, in this county [Limerick]. An inquest was held at the time by C. Bennet, Esq., Coroner, and there did not appear any evidence of violence; but it is now ascertained that he was murdered, and two persons have absconded, and a third is in custody. A clue has recently been discovered, leading to all the circumstances of the atrocious and unnatural murder of John Ryan, at Ballyvorneen, near Cahirconlish, in October last. This clue has, within these few days, been rendered more clear and satisfactory, attaching the strongest guilt to four persons, now in prison for the crime, and for whose conviction the fullest proof is in preparation. The details of this horrid murder, when given in evidence, will affect the most callous feeling, more especially when the near relation of one of the parties is considered. The Rev. Charles M'Carthy, P.P. of Dromin, has been appointed to the Parish of Ballingarry, in the room of the Rev. Gilbert O'Grady, retired. The Rev. James O'Regan, Chaplain of the County Gaol, and Curate of St. John's, in this City, succeeds Mr. M'Carthy, at Dromin. The Rev. Mr. Tushy succeeds the Rev. Mr. O'Regan as first Curate of St. John's; and the Rev. Mr. Liddy, of Shanagolden, lately removed from Patrick'swell, has been appointed to St. John's. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

Don't think so, but thanks for the reply. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Portland,OR - area Families --General Question to the Group - ... > Joan, > > No connections on my end, other than a client w/Wilson, but they are from > Utah orginally. I think that my ex's family has Ayers, but they are from > Eastern Washington and originally Colorado. Any connections there? > > > > Ginger Aarons, CTC, Director > Time Travel > P.O. Box 23908 > Portland, OR 97281-3908 > 503-454-0897 > tollfree and fax 877-787-7807 > cell 503-421-0029 > www.timetraveltours.com > MEMBERS OF : ASTA, ICTA & CLIA > > > ************************************** > See > what's new at http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello, Regarding occupations, what might it mean when it says the father of the groom's occupation is "private"? Thank you. Valerie C.> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:35:21 -0500> Subject: Re: [IRELAND] Old Occupations In Records> > Do you know if the Irish married within their family occupation as the > Germans did? Did my family, who were coopers, marry into families who were > coopers? And thanks for the occupation list!> " It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in > our air and water that are doing it:> Al Gore, former vice-president> Marilynn> IBSSG> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean R." <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:30 PM> Subject: [IRELAND] Old Occupations In Records> > > > OLD OCCUPATIONS> > Accomptant - Accountant> > Almoner- Giver of charity to the needy> > Amanuensis - Secretary or stenographer> > Artificer - A soldier mechanic who does repairs> > Bailie - Bailiff> > Baxter - Baker> > Bluestocking - Female writer> > Boniface - Keeper of an inn> > Brazier - One who works with brass> > Brewster - Beer manufacturer> > Brightsmith - Metal Worker> > Burgonmaster - Mayor> > Caulker - One who filled up cracks (in ships or windows or seems to make> > them watertight by using tar or oakum-hem fiber produced by taking old > > ropes> > apart.> > Chaisemaker - Carriage maker> > Chandler - Dealer or trader; one who makes or sells candles; retailer of> > groceries, ship supplier> > Chiffonnier - Wig maker> > Clark - Clerk> > Clerk - Clergyman, cleric> > Clicker - The servant of a salesman who stood at the door to invite> > customers; one who received the matter in the galley from the compositors> > and arranged it in due form ready for printing; one who makes eyelet holes> > in boots using a machine which clicked.> > Cohen - Priest> > Collier - Coal miner> > Colporteur - Peddler of books> > Cooper - One who makes or repairs vessels made of staves & hoops,such as> > casks, barrels, tubs, etc.> > Cordwainer - Shoemaker, originally any leather worker using leather from> > Cordova/Cordoba in Spain> > Costermonger - Peddler of fruits and vegetables> > Crocker - Potter> > Crowner - Coroner> > Currier - One who dresses the coat of a horse with a currycomb;one who> > tanned leather by incorporating oil or grease> > Docker - Stevedore, dock worker who loads and unloads cargo> > Dowser - One who finds water using a rod or witching stick> > Draper - A dealer in dry goods> > Drayman - One who drives a long strong cart without fixed sides for > > carrying> > heavy loads> > Dresser- A surgeon's assistant in a hospital> > Drover - One who drives cattle, sheep, etc. to market; a dealer in cattle> > Duffer - Peddler> > Factor - Agent, commission merchant; one who acts or transacts business > > for> > another; Scottish steward or bailiff of an estate.> > Farrier - A blacksmith, one who shoes horses> > Faulkner- Falconer> > Fellmonger - One who removes hair or wool from hides in preparation for> > leather making> > Fletcher - One who made bows and arrows> > Fuller - One who fulls cloth;one who shrinks and thickens woolen cloth by> > moistening, heating, and pressing; one who cleans and finishes cloth> > Gaoler - A keeper of the goal, a jailer> > Glazier - Window glassman> > Hacker - Maker of hoes> > Hatcheler - One who combed out or carded flax> > Haymonger - Dealer in hay> > Hayward - Keeper of fences> > Higgler - Itinerant peddler> > Hillier - Roof tiler> > Hind - A farm laborer> > Holster - A groom who took care of horses, often at an inn> > Hooker - Reaper> > Hooper - One who made hoops for casks and barrels> > Huckster - Sells small wares> > Husbandman - A farmer who cultivated the land> > Jagger - Fish peddler> > Journeyman - One who had served his apprenticeship and mastered his craft,> > not bound to serve a master, but hired by the day.> > Joyner / Joiner - A skilled carpenter> > Keeler - Bargeman> > Kempster - Wool comber> > Lardner - Keeper of the cupboard> > Lather - Installer of lath strips in old-time walls> > Lavender - Washer woman> > Lederer - Leather maker> > Leech - Physician> > Longshoreman - Stevedore> > Lormer - Maker of horse gear> > Malender - Farmer> > Maltster - Brewer> > Manciple - A steward> > Mason - Bricklayer> > Mintmaster - One who issued local currency> > Monger - Seller of goods (ale, fish)> > Muleskinner - Teamster> > Neatherder - Herds cows> > Ordinary Keeper- Innkeeper with fixed prices> > Pattern Maker - A maker of a clog shod with an iron ring. A clog was a> > wooden pole with a pattern cut into the end> > Peregrinator - Itinerant wanderer> > Peruker - A wig maker> > Pettifogger - A shyster lawyer> > Pigman - Crockery dealer> > Plumber - One who applied sheet lead for roofing andset lead frames for> > plain or stained glass windows.> > Porter - Door keeper> > Puddler - Wrought iron worker> > Quarrier- Quarry worker> > Rigger - Hoist tackle worker> > Ripper - Seller of fish> > Roper - Maker of rope or nets> > Saddler - One who makes, repairs or sells saddles or other furnishings for> > horses.> > Sawbones- Physician> > Sawyer - One who saws; carpenter> > Schumacker - Shoemaker> > Scribler - A minor or worthless author> > Scrivener - Professional or public copyist or writer; notary public> > Scrutiner - Election judge> > Shrieve / SheriffSlater - Roofer> > Slopseller- Seller of ready-made clothes in a slop shop> > Snobscat / Snob - One who repaired shoes> > Sorter - Tailor> > Spinster - A woman who spins or an unmarried woman> > Spurrer - Maker of spurs> > Squire - Country gentleman; farm owner; justice of peace> > Stuff gown - Junior barrister> > Stuff gownsman - Junior barrister> > Supercargo - Officer on merchant ship who is in charge of cargo and the> > commercial concerns of the ship.> > Tanner - One who tans (cures) animal hides into leather> > Tapley - One who puts the tap in an ale cask> > Tasker - Reaper> > Teamster - One who drives a team for hauling> > Thatcher - Roofer> > Tide waiter - Customs inspector> > Tinker - An itinerant tin pot and pan seller and repairman> > Tipstaff - Policeman> > Travers - Toll bridge collection> > Tucker - Cleaner of cloth goods> > Turner - A person who turns wood on a lathe into spindles> > Victualer - A tavern keeper, or one who provides an army, navy, or ship > > with> > food> > Vulcan - Blacksmith> > Wagoner - Teamster not for hire> > Wainwright - Wagon maker> > Waiter - Customs officer or tide waiter; one who waited on the tide to> > collect duty on goods brought in.> > Waterman - Boatman who plies for hire> > Webster - Operator of looms> > Wharfinger - Owner of a wharf> > Wheelwright - One who made or repaired wheels; wheeled carriages,etc.> > Whitesmith - Tinsmith; worker of iron who finishes or polishes the work> > Whitewing - Street sweeper> > Whitster - Bleach of cloth> > Wright - Workman, especially a construction worker> > Yeoman - Farmer who owns his own land> > -- more --> > Abraham Man - Beggar, "pretended lunatic"> > Aromatarius - Grocer.> > Badger - Also Higgler and Peddar - intinerant trader, usually of food..> > Bairman or Bareman -- Pauper> > Ale Draper - Innkeeper> > Alnager - ]Sworn officer appt. to examine, attest to measurment, quality > > of> > woolen goods.> > Archdeacon - Bishop's deputy.> > Bailiff - Employed by lord of manor to administer some farms and lands.> > Overall administration was in the hands of a Steward.> > Barker - A tanner of leather.> > Beadle - Parish or ward officer, often associated with administration of> > Poor Law.> > Bowyer - Maker or dealer in archery bows, or an archer.> > Broderers - Embroiderers.> > Burriarius - Dairyman.> > Cadger - Carrier or Pedlar of small wares by means of a horse & cart.> > Chapman - Dealer in small wares.> > Classman - Unemployed labourer.> > Collier -- Coal miner, originally a charcoal seller, later meant to be a> > coal miner or a sailor on a coal ship.> > Cottar - Cottager with small landholding, obliged to provide labour on the> > farm of the lord of the manor.> > Couper - One who buys and sells, especially cattle and hores - e.g.> > horse-couper, herring-couper.> > Couple Beggar - Itinerant "hedge-priest," priest of low status, often> > illiterate, who performed marriages before 1754.> > Crofter - Usual term ofr a Scottish smallholder. Occasional used for a> > bleacher or dyer in textile trades.> > Cutlers - Made swords, knives, instruments.> > Dexter - Dyer.> > Feroner - An Ironmonger.> > Flatman - Boatman.> > Fletcher - See Bowyer.> > Fogger - Pedlar, or headman at a farm, a groom or manservant, also> > Middleman in the nail and chain trade or farm labourer. (Pettifogger,> > low-class> > lawyer.)> > Frobisher or Furbisher - Armour polisher.> > F.W.K. - Stockinger, works with hand loom or Frame Work Knitter.> > Gaffer - In the building trade.> > Gaffman - Baliff.> > Garthman - Yardsman, herdsman - or worker in a fish-garth, dam for > > catching> > fish.> > Girdler - Belt maker.> > Glaziers - Painters of stained glass.> > Greave - Or Grieve -Baliff or foreman.> > Haberdasher - Or Milliners - Specializing in hats, ribbons, etc.> > Hawker - Traveling salesman with wares.> > Hellier - Hillier, Slater or tiler.> > Hind - Household servant or farm labourer.> > Hostellers - Innkeepers.> > Hostler - Or Ostler - Stableman at an inn, or person in charge of> > locomotives when not in use.> > Ironmonger - or Feroners - Dealer in iron.> > Jagger - Hawker, or dealer in fish, or person in charge of "jags"/coal> > trains in mines, or whocarries coal ore on pack-horses from mine.> > Maker-up - Garment assembler, chemist, or druggist.> > Upholders - Upholsterers,> > Loriner - Lorimer, Lormer - Maker of bits, spurs, ironwear for horses.> > Magistrate - Justice of the Peace.> > Mercer - Dealer in wool, silk, cotton, linen goods.> > Taylor - Tailor, merchant tailor.> > Neatherd - Cowherd.> > Pavior - Repairs paving stones.> > Poulter - Dealer in poultry and game.> > Salter - Maker or dealer of salt.> > Self-Acter Minder - Person who looked after the "self-acting" mule in a> > spinning machine.> > Shipwright - Maker of ships.> > Soliciter - Part of the legal profession, not necessarily University> > graduates, such as a Barrister would be; note, they are often harder to> > trace, but tended to make out their own wills.> > Troner - Official in charge of weighing with scales.> > Verderer - Officer responsible to preserve King's forest, or a Petty> > Constable.> > Whitesmith - Worker in tin..> > Watch & Ward Men - Men appointed to police an area under supervision of> > Constable - i.e. Night watch or day watch.> > Watermen & Lightermen - Licensed by City of London to work on parts of the> > Thames. (Excellent records in manuscripts of Guildhall Library).> > Yeoman - Man holding (not necessarily owning) and cultivating small landed> > estate.> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.> It has removed 4846 spam emails to date.> Paying users do not have this message in their emails.> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007