SNIPPET: Tony FAHY's true story first appeared in the Carrigallen (Leitrim) Parish Jubilee Celebration publication, "Jubilee 2000." It recently appeared in the 2005 issue of the "Leitrim Guardian" periodical together with some photos. One accompanying old photo is of his parents, Teenie and Paddy FAHY, his infant sister Susan, and himself, at about two years of age. Another shows candles on Mass Rock at Tully, and a third includes Gemma BRUGHA sitting at Mass Rock, with whom he found he shared an amazing story. Per Tony - "The three main events of the Jubilee Year in Carrigallen, Leitrim, were: the Pilgrimage, the Mass on Tully Rock and the Jubilee end-of-year Mass in St. Mary's. My particular story takes place at Tully Rock, a place so far out in the wilds of Carrigallen that I nearly gave up looking for it, till I met one or two others in the same predicament. I took quite a lot of pictures, and afterward retired to a very nice presentation of tea and sandwiches which were very welcome. I was talking to Mrs. DOHERTY from Beaghabeg, whom I hadn't seen for some time when I was interrupted by Christine MURTAGH. She drew me to one side to introduce me to one of her friends, an Irish nurse who had lived in Africa in recent years and was only going to be in the country for a short while. But she was from Dublin, as I was originally, which is why Christine introduced us. We were chatting away, having the tea, when Gemma, as she was introduced to me, said that she was from Dundrum in Co. Dublin. I, in turn, said that I had spent the first two months of my life in Dundrum. 'Yes,' I said. 'We lived in Annaville Grove.' Gemma stopped and looked at me and said, 'You're Anthony FAHY, aren't you.' Now, only family in Dublin would have known me by Anthony. I said, 'How can you possibly know that? I've never met you, have I? 'Well,' she said, 'No, but you lived in No. 1 Annaville Grove and we lived in No. 2.' 'But,' I said, "I only lived in Annaville Grove for about two months as a baby. You couldn't possibly remember me from that time, even if you did know me then.' 'Well,' she said, 'Not only that, but I've been praying for you for the last 40 or so years.' There was a bit of stunned silence, that was followed by me saying: "You've been what?' And she repeated what she had said, word for word. 'But you've not seen me since then, have you?' I said to Gemma, 'There must be more to this.' 'Well, said Gemma, 'My brother was born around the time that you were. At that time it was customary to include the babies in your night prayers and as you, Anthony, had just been born, you had been added to the prayers of not only myself but my whole family.' I could see the headline in the Wednesday's 'Leitrim Observer' - 'Miracle at Mass Rock!' Fr. YOUNG would have a field day! I was truly astonished by what I had just heard. Gemma went on to say that over the years she often used to wonder who this person was that was in her prayers since being a baby herself. Was he still alive? What exactly did he mean to her to be included every night in her prayers.... Finally, about five years ago, she decided to drop this 'Anthony Fahy' from her prayers ... someone she did not know.' Tony FAHY goes on - "Consider the chances of the two of us being in the middle of nowhere, meeting on the top of a rock that had hardly been seen since penal times; Gemma only fleetingly in this country, don't mind Carrigallen -- only meeting because of all the people who were on the Rock that day, Christine introducing us, as she knew we had some tentative Dublin background -- and me just about giving up on finding Tully Rock and had literally turned the car back when I saw someone else. That night we all met again in John Joe DOLAN's, had a great sing-song, re-told the story a few times and then Gemma was off to Dublin. Next morning, after processing the pictures I had taken, I was delighted to discover that I had actually taken a picture of Gemma. I never thought at the time to have someone take a picture of us together...." Gemma sent Tony an e-mail shortly after returning home. It read, 'Greetings. Yes everyone remembers you, not only I, but also my sister and brother prayed for you for years not knowing who you were. It seems that you were born around the same time as my brother so you were just bunged into the prayers. My mother says that your parents had a flat upstairs of the house next door to us - 'CLUNES' of which family only the son remains still living there. My mother remembers your parents - that your mother was from Donegal - as is my mother - and that your father, from Galway, worked in Radio Eireann. Your mother gave my mother the feathers to make a Red-Indian headdress for my brother! I enjoyed my Leitrim weekend - will come again. Keep up the great music! Gemma BRUGHA.'

Thanks to Kathy Snowberger, the surname registries on the Ireland GenWeb website have been updated. You can find them here: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/ If you have entered a surname in the last month or so, please check you submission for accuracy. If you find a mistake or if your email address or information has change, just submit a new form and put 'change' in the field requiring the change. Help Wanted: There are still some counties needing adoption. If you know how to create webpages and are interested in taking over a county, write me off list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

THE BEGGARS HOME Twas Christmas Eve And All The Streets Were Thronged With Passers To And Fro And Everyone Looked Bright And Glad Except A Little Beggar Lad, Who Had No Home Where He Could Go He Heard, With Tear Drops On His Cheeks The Merry Sound Of Children's Glee; And Drawing From The Crowd Apart, A Cry Of Sorrow Filled His Heart- "They All Have Got A Home But Me!, But When The Tide Of Human Life Along The Pavement Ceased To Sweep, With Naught To Rest On But A Stone. Hungry And Homeless- All Alone, The Little Outcast Fell Asleep. The Christmas Bells Rang Out With Peals To Show The Christmas Dawn Had Come; And While They Hailed A Saviour's Birth, The Saviour Jesus Stooped To Earth, And Took The Weary Beggar Home. Wexford Newspaper 1836 Co Wexford Ireland Transcribed by Cara 2006

SNIPPET: NY-born author/teacher Frank McCOURT writes about one Christmas when the family returned to Ireland to live in his memoir, "Angela's Ashes" (1996). "Mam takes Malachy and me to the St. Vincent de Paul Society to stand in the queue and see if there's any chance of getting something for the Christmas dinner -- a goose or a ham, but the man says everyone in Limerick is desperate this Christmas. He gives her a docket for groceries at McGrath's shop and another one for the butcher. No goose says the butcher, no ham. No fancy items when you bring the docket from the St. Vincent de Paul. What you can have now, missus, is black pudding and tripe or a sheep's head or a nice pig's head. No harm in a pig's head, missus, plenty of meat and children love it, slice that cheek, slather it with mustard and you're in heaven, though I suppose they wouldn't have the likes of that in America where they're mad for the steak and all classes of poultry, flying, walking or swimming itself. He tells Mam, no she can't have boiled bacon or sausages and if she has any sense she'll take the pig's head before they're all gone the way the poor people of Limerick are clamoring for them. Mam says the pig's head isn't right for Christmas and he says 'tis more than the Holy Family had in that cold stable in Bethlehem long ago. You wouldn't find them complaining if someone offered them a nice fat pig's head. No, they wouldn't complain, says Mam, but they'd never eat a pig's head. They were Jewish .... The butcher takes the pig's head off a shelf ... wraps the head in newspaper, hands it to Mam and says, Happy Christmas. Then he wraps up some sausages and tells her, Take these sausages for your breakfast on Christmas Day. Mam says, Oh, I can't afford sausages, and he says, Am I asking you for money? Am I? Takes these sausages. They might help make up for the lack of a goose or a ham. Sure, you don't to do that, says Mam. I know that, missus. If I had to do it, I wouldn't. Mam says she has a pain in her back, that I'll have to carry the pig's head. I hold it against my chest but it's damp and when the newspaper begins to fall away everyone can see the head. Mam says, I'm ashamed of me life that the world should know we're having pig's head for Christmas. Boys from Leamy's National School see me and they point and laugh. Aw, Gawd, look at Frankie McCourt an' his pig's snout. Is that what the Yanks ate for Christmas dinner, Frankie? One calls to another, Hey, Christy, do you know how to ate a pig's head? No, I don't, Paddy. Grab him by the ears an' chew the face offa him. And Christy says, Hey, Paddy, do you know the only part of the pig the McCourts don't ate? No, I don't Christy. The only part they don't ate is the oink. After a few streets the newspaper is gone altogether and everyone can see the pig's head. His nose is flat against my chest and pointing up at my chin and I feel sorry for him because he's dead and the world is laughing at him. My sister and two brothers are dead, too, but if anyone laughed at them I'd hit them with a rock." .

A CHRISTMAS CAROL The Christ-child lay on Mary's lap, His hair was like a light. (O weary, weary were the world, But here is all aright.) The Christ-child lay on Mary's breast, His hair was like a star. (O stern and cunning are the kings, But here the true hearts are.) The Christ-child lay on Mary's heart, His hair was like a fire. (O weary, weary is the world, But here the world's desire.) The Christ-child stood at Mary's knee, His hair was like a crown, And all the flowers looked up at Him, And all the stars looked down. -- G. K. Chesterton G.K Chesterton, the great English convert to the Catholic faith, was known as a remarkable and diverse but extremely influential English writer. His inexhaustible and wide ranging portfolio of works includes journalistic writing, poetry, biography, Christian, fantasy and detective genres. His style is distinctive and always marked by humility, consistency, irony, wit and wonder. Some of his most enduring books include The Everlasting Man, which led C.S. Lewis to become a Christian and The Napoleon of Notting Hill which inspired Michael Collins to lead a movement for Irish independence.

Thanks Linda. I found a ref to a James Butler, Knock National School. History of Education in Clare,Roll Books, 1873-1960. Can anyone sugest a means of accessing parents of said child. Reserching Butlers Co Clare John Married to Mary Fitzpatrick issue 8 ?. Anyone reserching these names like to hear from you . Love the list, enjoy all the news, and the requests. Thanks for all the help and advice I am not looking forward to the heat. Good heath and happiness. MERRY CHRISTMAS & A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL. Regards to all from Victoria Australia Val

Hi Carole - Here is data circa 1851 from the all-Ireland IreAtlas townland search engine at the Leitrim-Roscommon website. You can likely narrow things down by doing detective work at the locations to which they emigrated - collecting records on known family members and quizzing living relatives as to family lore - North of Ireland or the South, a particular county, etc. Once you have confirmed a particular location, then you can begin searching in Ireland's CP (Civil Parish) and/or Catholic parish records, concentrating on those and the PLU (Poor Law Union, nearest large town/registration district) records. You can "google" Leitrim-Roscommon and the website will come right up, too. Has miscellaneous data on several Irish counties. Jean Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province NEWCASTLE T. xx Down Upper Iveagh, Lower part Kilcoe Kilkeel Ulster NEWCASTLE T. xx Limerick Glenquin Monagay Newcastle Munster NEWCASTLE T. xx Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster NEWCASTLE T. xx Wicklow Newcastle Newcastle Lower Rathdrum Leinster NEWCASTLE T. xx Tipperary, S.R. Iffa and Offa West Newcastle Clogheen Munster NEWCASTLE T. xx Limerick Glenquin Newcastle Newcastle Munster Newcastle 477 Cork, E.R. Barretts Grenagh Cork Munster Newcastle 508 Westmeath Fartullagh Clonfad Mullingar Leinster Newcastle 845 Wexford Shelmaliere West Clongeen New Ross Leinster Newcastle 218 Galway Tiaquin Monivea Loughrea Connaught Newcastle 136 Galway Kilconnell Killallaghtan Ballinasloe Connaught Newcastle 530 Longford Shrule Forgney Ballymahon Leinster Newcastle 697 Limerick Clanwilliam Kilmurry Limerick Munster Newcastle 512 Galway Galway Rahoon Galway Connaught Newcastle 611 Galway Kilconnell Aughrim Ballinasloe Connaught Newcastle 226 Down Ards Upper Slanes Downpatrick Ulster Newcastle 232 Galway Tiaquin Kilkerrin Glennamaddy Connaught Newcastle 808 Meath Fore Oldcastle Oldcastle Leinster Newcastle 102 Wexford Shelmaliere East Kilpatrick Wexford Leinster Newcastle 438 Mayo Gallen Meelick Swineford Connaught Newcastle 474 Meath Lower Kells Moynalty Kells Leinster Newcastle 176 Meath Morgallion Enniskeen Kells Leinster Newcastle 162 Tipperary, S.R. Iffa and Offa West Templetenny Clogheen Munster Newcastle 358 Westmeath Fore Lickbla Granard Leinster Newcastle 1,359 Meath Lower Moyfenrath Rathcore Trim Leinster Newcastle 67 Westmeath Clonlonan Kilcleagh Athlone Leinster Newcastle 237 Wexford Bargy Kilmannan Wexford Leinster Newcastle Demesne 136 Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster Newcastle Farm 280 Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster Newcastle Lower 189 Wicklow Newcastle Newcastle Lower Rathdrum Leinster Newcastle Lower 72 Wexford Shelmaliere East Tikillin Wexford Leinster Newcastle Middle 295 Wicklow Newcastle Newcastle Lower Rathdrum Leinster Newcastle North 151 Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster Newcastle South 183 Dublin Newcastle Newcastle Celbridge Leinster Newcastle Upper 351 Wicklow Newcastle Newcastle Lower Rathdrum Leinster Newcastle Upper 208 Wexford Shelmaliere East Tikillin Wexford Leinster 36 Total Matches ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole" <cbrailey@tiscali.co.uk> To: <IRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 12:07 AM Subject: [IRELAND] Newcastle Co Down >I am trying to trace relatives born in Ireland and I have Newcastle listed >in one of the Census Records as a place of birth, does anyone have any >information showing records/resources for this or any other Newcastle in >Ireland? > > Carole

I am trying to trace relatives born in Ireland and I have Newcastle listed in one of the Census Records as a place of birth, does anyone have any information showing records/resources for this or any other Newcastle in Ireland? Carole

Hi Cathy - not sure if you received a reply but the books by John Grenham are always good value. The third edition of 'Tracing Your Irish Ancesors' 2006 is the latest version I think. There will be others of course but these are tried and tested. Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: [IRELAND] Re Irish Genealogy Book..New one just released > GDAY:) > Does anyone know please the name of latest Irish Genealogy Book just > released > It was mentioned in an irish mailing list and dang i forgot to write down > the name of it > Im going to ask my library to get it in > i know it was quite expensive tho > or can anyone suggest a irish genealogy book which may have extensive > records in that i can try and get our library to order in > Thanks > Regards > Cathy:)

REGENERATION There are lakes, islands, and mountains enough for anyone in the West. It thrilled whether the sun shone or not. To be away from the city, the curse of work, the humdrum reality of no known path, was all I asked. I got much more than that - laughter and tears, miles to walk, hours of dreaming, teasing, overcoming awkwardness. Strange fellowships are not startling in this primitive, eccentric landscape; fields strung out on stone, altars erected by passing travellers. Through the ruggedness all tenderness is not abolished - blooming insurrections sweep visions of colour through stone - pink, yellow, purple, white, blue and red salute every passerby - Wisdom woven on the landscape. -- Mary Shine, from Templemore, Co. Tipperary, has lived in Dublin for more than 25 years.

GDAY:) Does anyone know please the name of latest Irish Genealogy Book just released It was mentioned in an irish mailing list and dang i forgot to write down the name of it Im going to ask my library to get it in i know it was quite expensive tho or can anyone suggest a irish genealogy book which may have extensive records in that i can try and get our library to order in Thanks Regards Cathy:) Start your day with Yahoo!7 and win a Sony Bravia TV. Enter now http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/?p1=other&p2=au&p3=tagline

----- Original Message ----- From: Val Kenelley To: Ireland Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:43 PM Subject: Index Thank you Jim for this valuable information,anf hope next year to send for a film. The closest LDS is about an hour from us The procedure is pick the film Number ect. Order it in, app 6 weeks wait You have it to look at when they are open for a month It used to be about $6.00 a film. We live in the country so not near the Big places that stay open. Thanks again Val

MIDNIGHT MASS The peaceful stillness of a winter night Blesses my journey to the chapel gate. I join the murmurous worshippers who wait To fill the shadowy church with candlelight. Small kindling flames that make the darkness bright Serve to express what we anticipate, The miracle for which we congregate, The love that comes to set our world to right. And holding up our candle we repeat The vows made for us in our infancy, Receiving in exchange that promise sweet, The prelude to the first Epiphany. Give us the hearts of children when we greet The Christ Child born to our humanity. -- Warren O'Connell, "Duet for Two Dubs, Poetry and Prose by: Warren O'Connell and Maureen Charlton," Swan Press Dublin (1997)

SHE WALKED UNAWARE O, she walked unaware of her own increasing beauty That was holding men's thoughts from market to plough, As she passed by, intent on her womanly duties And she without leisure to be wayward or proud; Or if she had pride then it was not in her thinking But thoughtless in her body like a flower of good breeding. The first time I saw her spreading coloured linen Beyond the green willow she gave me gentle greeting With no more intention than the leaning willow tree. Though she smiled without intention yet from that day forward Her beauty filled like water the four corners of my being. And she rested in my heart like a hare in the form That is shaped to herself. And I that would be singing Or whistling at all time went silently then; 'Till I drew her aside among straight stems of beeches When the blackbird was sleeping and she promised that never The fields would be ripe but I'd gather all sweetness, A red moon of August would rise on our wedding. October is spreading bright flame along stripped willows, Low fires of the dogwood burn down to grey water -- God pity me now and all desolate sinners Demented with beauty! I have blackened my thought In drouths of bad longing, and all brightness goes shrouded Since he came with his rapture of wild words that mirrored Her beauty and made her ungentle and proud. To-night she will spread her brown hair on his pillow, But I shall be hearing the harsh cries of wild fowl. -- Patrick MacDONOGH (1902- ).

Thank you Jean for this info, l can now see why it is so hard for me to track down my husbands ABRAHAM family, maybe a lot of them died out in this horific situation..! Dot R in Oz ----- Original Message ----- Subject: [IRELAND] Famine, Disease and Evictions -- Relief Efforts > SNIPPET: Like all famines, most victims in Ireland did not actually starve > to death -- they didn't live long enough to die of starvation. Disease > carried the malnourished, weakened majority away -- fever, dysentery,

Hi Jean, thanks for this, very interesting. mike On 12/13/08, Jean R. <jeanrice@cet.com> wrote: > > SNIPPET: Like all famines, most victims in Ireland did not actually starve > to death -- they didn't live long enough to die of starvation. Disease > carried the malnourished, weakened majority away -- fever, dysentery, > smallpox, influenza, tuberculosis, measles - later, in 1849 Asiatic > cholera. > Crowded work programs and workhouses were breeding grounds for disease. At > the same time, foodstuffs were being exported out of the country. Faced > with a mounting disaster of their own making, British officials abandoned > public works programs and authorized the opening of soup kitchens to > provide > free soup to all. By July 1847, the kitchens were serving a simple yet > nourishing soup called 'stirabout' to three million people, 37% of the > population. By the end of September 1847, the British, increasingly > concerned about the cost of Irish relief and worried that the Irish might > become dependent on the care, declared the Famine to be 'over' and > terminated the soup kitchens. Their underlying goal was to shift all the > costs of relief from the British government to individual Irish landlords > under a provision called the Poor Law Extension Act. > > The taxes on landlords to pay for this policy hit them hard, causing many > to > evict their tenants; thousands more sold their land or terminated their > leases in order to get food, causing still greater distress and > homelessness. Evictions increased in every year of the Famine up to 1850 > and > remained high through the early 1850s. All told, approximately half a > million people were evicted from their homes during the Famine Years, often > in a cruel and callous manner. Frequently, landlords called in arms guards > to serve eviction notices and to keep people away while men pulled down the > houses and set them ablaze. Evicted tenants often built simple shacks > called > 'scalpeens' along roadsides nearby. > > Some notable exceptions included the EDGEWORTHs of Co. Longford and Henry > MOORE of Galway, both of whom nearly went bankrupt feeding their tenants. > It should also be pointed out that some Catholic landlords resorted to > evictions in order to save their farms. Families who had supplemented their > diet by fishing were forced to pawn their nets and small boats called > "coracles," the herring population was greatly diminished and most river > and > lakes were bounded by private property whose owners refused to allow people > to fish. > > Unable to purchase expensive grain and dairy foods, unable to fish, the > poor > first ate their seed potatoes, greatly limiting future plantings, > slaughtered pigs, bled cows to drink blood, ate horses, birds, dogs, > cats,mice, rats, frogs and then insects and thistles. When these were gone, > they turned to grass. Corpses were found alongside roads with green-stained > mouths. Resistance to eviction and other forms of injustice were common, > especially in the early years of the Famine - mainly against property - > usually stealing food. Occasionally, attacks against landlords, rent > collectors, evictors, and police did occur. The most sensation of these was > the assassination of Roscommon landlord, Major Denis MAHON, in late 1847. > > The Quakers took an early interest in the Irish crisis and provided some of > the most important relief. As early as October 1846 they were serving free > soup in Ireland, a policy later adopted by the British government. The many > Quakers who went to Ireland to directly assist the relief effort wrote some > of the most important first-hand accounts of the suffering and lackluster > British measures. With an eye to the future, Quakers also distributed seeds > and set up workers in small business ventures. Per author Edward > T.O'DONNELL, at least 18 Quakers died of disease and exhaustion while in > Ireland. The Quakers also raised 200,00 pounds both in Britain and the U.S. > > All added up, the British spent approximately 10 million pounds on Irish > Famine relief. More than half of this money came in the form of a loan for > which repayment was due. Most of the money was spent on the misguided, > punitive public works phase of relief in 1846 and 1847 - ironically, the > period of greatest mortality - because the British government could not > bear > the idea of giving food away without having to work for it. Clothed in > rags, > often shoeless, malnourished men worked at hard labor 12 hours a day > six days a week on work projects such as building roads, even in snow, to > earn food for their families. As a result, they had no time to plant any > crops for themselves. > > Funding after that was sharply curtailed as a means of forcing Irish > landlords to bear the cost of relief. Although the British press and > government accused Irish landlords of shirking their duty, the latter > actually spent 9 million in pounds in poor relief. Historian Christine > KINEALY says that famine relief was small when one considers the fact that > the Treasury expected repayment for approximately 5 million pounds of the > funds, and when compared to other large-scale expenditures by the Treasury. > For example, compensation to British slave owners when slavery was > abolished > in 1833 was 22 million pounds and after the Famine, British would spend 69 > million pounds in the disastrous Crimean War. > > Queen Victoria's donation of 2,000 pounds was seen as a pittance compared > to > her wealth and indicative of British indifference. The Queen visited > Ireland > in August of 1849, in part to demonstrate that the Famine was 'over.' She > visited Cork, Dublin, Belfast, and Cobh (which was renamed Queenstown in > her > honor), but stayed far from the suffering. Many Irish mocked her visit by > singing "Arise ye dead of Skibbereen/And come to Cork to > see the Queen." > > The efforts of America and other countries such as Russia's endeavour to > provide a shipment of rye to Ireland once the waterway had been cleared of > ice were well published in the press. So too were expressions of gratitude > by the Irish famine victims. Upon arriving in Cove (Cobh), County Cork with > a load of relief supplies, the officers and crew of the unarmed > sloop-of-war > 'USS Jamestown' were given an official reception by a grateful Irish > delegation. The 'Cork Constitution,' reporting on this humanitarian mission > pronounced blessings on the heads and hearts of those who sent and brought > supplies declaring it 'the noblest offering that Nation ever made to > Nation.' > > Many small grants were given by 'A General Central Relief Committee for > AllIreland' organized in 1847 to collect funds for relief by Daniel > O'CONNELL and the Young Irelander William Smith O'BRIEN, which, like most > relief agencies, disbanded prematurely at the end of 1847. A second major > organization was the British Relief Association. It raised and distributed > 400,000 pounds before disbanding in the summer of 1848. Its most notable > achievement, the result of its chief agent Count Paul Edmund de > STRZELECKI,a > Polish nobleman, were schools that fed 200,000 children a day in western > Ireland. When STRZELECKI appealed to the Treasury for money to continue the > program, however, Secretary Charles TREVELYAN refused. > > Countless priests and nuns worked tirelessly throughout Ireland to relieve > suffering and administer last rites to the dying. They were overwhelmed in > these efforts and an untold number of them perished with the masses. The > Irish Catholic Church raised money from abroad and expended a great deal of > its own meager resources on relief. Pope Pius IX sent one thousand Roman > dollars in Jan 1847 and issued an encyclical instructing Catholics all > around the world to pray for Ireland and to raise money. This served to > gain international attention for the crisis and brought in much-needed > donations totally 400,000 pounds. > > The term "souperism" relates to the practice in rare instances of small > groups of private relief workers in Ireland demanded that starving Irish > peasant renounce their Catholic faith and convert to Protestantism as a > qualification for receiving soup. One group wrote in a Belfast newspaper > that the Famine provided a great opportunity "for conveying the light of > the > Gospels to the darkened mind of the Roman Catholic Peasantry." > > Besides the Quakers, private donations totaling more than 2 million pounds > poured into Ireland from six continents. The first from India, a collection > taken up by British soldiers. Donations also came from the Sultan of > Turkey, > the Czar of Russia, ex-slaves in the Caribbean, two Jewish congregations in > NYC. In America, the Senate passed in Feb 1847 a bill > authorizing $500,000 in aid to Ireland and Scotland. When that was deemed > unconstitutional, Congress approved the use of the warships 'Jamestown' and > 'Macedonia' to bring privately raised supplies to Ireland and Scotland. > Destined for Ireland, the 'Jamestown' began loading in Boston on > St.Patrick's Day 1847 and arrived in early April. The American Indian > Choctaw tribe sent $170 to Ireland through the Quakers. No strangers to > oppression and starvation, themselves, they had been forced to travel the > Trail of > Tears to OK in 1831 by President Andrew JACKSON. Total aid to Ireland from > America during the years of the famine in donations, foodstuffs and > clothing > was massive. > > More than one million fled Ireland during the Great Famine. . Some > emigrants managed to sell a few possession to buy cheap steerage tickets. > Others with only a few pounds bought tickets on ferries and coal barges to > Liverpool. Many were given free tickets by landlords and British officials > eager to rid Ireland of its 'surplus' population. For their > destinations,some went only as far as London or Liverpool. Others booked > passage on ships to the continent, Australia, Latin America, and Canada. An > estimated > 80% shipped out for the United States. Most of them landed in the principal > ports of NY, Boston, Baltimore, and Philadelphia. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Thank you Jim for this valuable information,anf hope next year to send for a film. The closest LDS is about an hour from us The procedure is pick the film Number ect. Order it in, app 6 weeks wait You have it to look at when they are open for a month It used to be about $6.00 a film. We live in the country so not near the Big places that stay open. Thanks again Val

Hi Interested in How do you access the Clare civil index please Val

SNIPPET: Like all famines, most victims in Ireland did not actually starve to death -- they didn't live long enough to die of starvation. Disease carried the malnourished, weakened majority away -- fever, dysentery, smallpox, influenza, tuberculosis, measles - later, in 1849 Asiatic cholera. Crowded work programs and workhouses were breeding grounds for disease. At the same time, foodstuffs were being exported out of the country. Faced with a mounting disaster of their own making, British officials abandoned public works programs and authorized the opening of soup kitchens to provide free soup to all. By July 1847, the kitchens were serving a simple yet nourishing soup called 'stirabout' to three million people, 37% of the population. By the end of September 1847, the British, increasingly concerned about the cost of Irish relief and worried that the Irish might become dependent on the care, declared the Famine to be 'over' and terminated the soup kitchens. Their underlying goal was to shift all the costs of relief from the British government to individual Irish landlords under a provision called the Poor Law Extension Act. The taxes on landlords to pay for this policy hit them hard, causing many to evict their tenants; thousands more sold their land or terminated their leases in order to get food, causing still greater distress and homelessness. Evictions increased in every year of the Famine up to 1850 and remained high through the early 1850s. All told, approximately half a million people were evicted from their homes during the Famine Years, often in a cruel and callous manner. Frequently, landlords called in arms guards to serve eviction notices and to keep people away while men pulled down the houses and set them ablaze. Evicted tenants often built simple shacks called 'scalpeens' along roadsides nearby. Some notable exceptions included the EDGEWORTHs of Co. Longford and Henry MOORE of Galway, both of whom nearly went bankrupt feeding their tenants. It should also be pointed out that some Catholic landlords resorted to evictions in order to save their farms. Families who had supplemented their diet by fishing were forced to pawn their nets and small boats called "coracles," the herring population was greatly diminished and most river and lakes were bounded by private property whose owners refused to allow people to fish. Unable to purchase expensive grain and dairy foods, unable to fish, the poor first ate their seed potatoes, greatly limiting future plantings, slaughtered pigs, bled cows to drink blood, ate horses, birds, dogs, cats,mice, rats, frogs and then insects and thistles. When these were gone, they turned to grass. Corpses were found alongside roads with green-stained mouths. Resistance to eviction and other forms of injustice were common, especially in the early years of the Famine - mainly against property - usually stealing food. Occasionally, attacks against landlords, rent collectors, evictors, and police did occur. The most sensation of these was the assassination of Roscommon landlord, Major Denis MAHON, in late 1847. The Quakers took an early interest in the Irish crisis and provided some of the most important relief. As early as October 1846 they were serving free soup in Ireland, a policy later adopted by the British government. The many Quakers who went to Ireland to directly assist the relief effort wrote some of the most important first-hand accounts of the suffering and lackluster British measures. With an eye to the future, Quakers also distributed seeds and set up workers in small business ventures. Per author Edward T.O'DONNELL, at least 18 Quakers died of disease and exhaustion while in Ireland. The Quakers also raised 200,00 pounds both in Britain and the U.S. All added up, the British spent approximately 10 million pounds on Irish Famine relief. More than half of this money came in the form of a loan for which repayment was due. Most of the money was spent on the misguided, punitive public works phase of relief in 1846 and 1847 - ironically, the period of greatest mortality - because the British government could not bear the idea of giving food away without having to work for it. Clothed in rags, often shoeless, malnourished men worked at hard labor 12 hours a day six days a week on work projects such as building roads, even in snow, to earn food for their families. As a result, they had no time to plant any crops for themselves. Funding after that was sharply curtailed as a means of forcing Irish landlords to bear the cost of relief. Although the British press and government accused Irish landlords of shirking their duty, the latter actually spent 9 million in pounds in poor relief. Historian Christine KINEALY says that famine relief was small when one considers the fact that the Treasury expected repayment for approximately 5 million pounds of the funds, and when compared to other large-scale expenditures by the Treasury. For example, compensation to British slave owners when slavery was abolished in 1833 was 22 million pounds and after the Famine, British would spend 69 million pounds in the disastrous Crimean War. Queen Victoria's donation of 2,000 pounds was seen as a pittance compared to her wealth and indicative of British indifference. The Queen visited Ireland in August of 1849, in part to demonstrate that the Famine was 'over.' She visited Cork, Dublin, Belfast, and Cobh (which was renamed Queenstown in her honor), but stayed far from the suffering. Many Irish mocked her visit by singing "Arise ye dead of Skibbereen/And come to Cork to see the Queen." The efforts of America and other countries such as Russia's endeavour to provide a shipment of rye to Ireland once the waterway had been cleared of ice were well published in the press. So too were expressions of gratitude by the Irish famine victims. Upon arriving in Cove (Cobh), County Cork with a load of relief supplies, the officers and crew of the unarmed sloop-of-war 'USS Jamestown' were given an official reception by a grateful Irish delegation. The 'Cork Constitution,' reporting on this humanitarian mission pronounced blessings on the heads and hearts of those who sent and brought supplies declaring it 'the noblest offering that Nation ever made to Nation.' Many small grants were given by 'A General Central Relief Committee for AllIreland' organized in 1847 to collect funds for relief by Daniel O'CONNELL and the Young Irelander William Smith O'BRIEN, which, like most relief agencies, disbanded prematurely at the end of 1847. A second major organization was the British Relief Association. It raised and distributed 400,000 pounds before disbanding in the summer of 1848. Its most notable achievement, the result of its chief agent Count Paul Edmund de STRZELECKI,a Polish nobleman, were schools that fed 200,000 children a day in western Ireland. When STRZELECKI appealed to the Treasury for money to continue the program, however, Secretary Charles TREVELYAN refused. Countless priests and nuns worked tirelessly throughout Ireland to relieve suffering and administer last rites to the dying. They were overwhelmed in these efforts and an untold number of them perished with the masses. The Irish Catholic Church raised money from abroad and expended a great deal of its own meager resources on relief. Pope Pius IX sent one thousand Roman dollars in Jan 1847 and issued an encyclical instructing Catholics all around the world to pray for Ireland and to raise money. This served to gain international attention for the crisis and brought in much-needed donations totally 400,000 pounds. The term "souperism" relates to the practice in rare instances of small groups of private relief workers in Ireland demanded that starving Irish peasant renounce their Catholic faith and convert to Protestantism as a qualification for receiving soup. One group wrote in a Belfast newspaper that the Famine provided a great opportunity "for conveying the light of the Gospels to the darkened mind of the Roman Catholic Peasantry." Besides the Quakers, private donations totaling more than 2 million pounds poured into Ireland from six continents. The first from India, a collection taken up by British soldiers. Donations also came from the Sultan of Turkey, the Czar of Russia, ex-slaves in the Caribbean, two Jewish congregations in NYC. In America, the Senate passed in Feb 1847 a bill authorizing $500,000 in aid to Ireland and Scotland. When that was deemed unconstitutional, Congress approved the use of the warships 'Jamestown' and 'Macedonia' to bring privately raised supplies to Ireland and Scotland. Destined for Ireland, the 'Jamestown' began loading in Boston on St.Patrick's Day 1847 and arrived in early April. The American Indian Choctaw tribe sent $170 to Ireland through the Quakers. No strangers to oppression and starvation, themselves, they had been forced to travel the Trail of Tears to OK in 1831 by President Andrew JACKSON. Total aid to Ireland from America during the years of the famine in donations, foodstuffs and clothing was massive. More than one million fled Ireland during the Great Famine. . Some emigrants managed to sell a few possession to buy cheap steerage tickets. Others with only a few pounds bought tickets on ferries and coal barges to Liverpool. Many were given free tickets by landlords and British officials eager to rid Ireland of its 'surplus' population. For their destinations,some went only as far as London or Liverpool. Others booked passage on ships to the continent, Australia, Latin America, and Canada. An estimated 80% shipped out for the United States. Most of them landed in the principal ports of NY, Boston, Baltimore, and Philadelphia.

Val, IHF has not, and likely will not put this online. You can only access through the Family History Library films or just by writing to the GRO for ROI and GRONI for NI after 1921. See info below. Best regards, Jim McNamara Ordering Records: When ordering BDM records from GRO or GRONI, always check their websites and use the current form available there. See URLs below. General Register Office, Government Offices [GRO] Convent Road, Roscommon. Tel: +353 (0) 90 6632900 LoCall: 1890 252076 Fax: +353 (0) 90 6632999 Fax: +353 (0) 90 6632988 URL: http://www.groireland.ie/ [COI marriages (1848-1863), BDMs for all of Ireland (1864-1921), BDMs for ROI (1922 to present)] The General Register Office of Northern Ireland [GRONI] Oxford House 49-55 Chichester Street BELFAST BT1 4HL Tel: (028) 90252000 Fax: (028) 90252120 URL: http://www.groni.gov.uk/ [BDM records and certificates, 1922 to present] Index of deaths, 27 reels 1864 - 1921 0,101,582 - 0,101,608 Index of marriages, 24 reels 1845 - 1921 0,101,241 - 0,101,264 Index to births, 39 reels 1864 - 1921 0,101,041 - 0,101,079 Note: The index is organized by SRD, so ignore all records in the index with any other SRDs shown expect the Clare ones below: CLARE County SRDs: Ballyvaghan Corrofin Ennis Ennistimon Gort Killadysert Kilrush Limerick Scarriff Tulla ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:30:28 +1100 > From: "Val Kenelley" <valkenelley@bigfoot.com.au> > Subject: [IRELAND] Civil Birth Index > To: "Ireland" <Ireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <1EAA77D058494A75BB00F9564464A847@userodufzzqis4> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi > Interested in How do you access the Clare civil index please > Val ---------------------------------------------------------------------------