My grandmother's given name was Lowessia, which I was told was the Dutch form of Louisa or Louise Her father and his ancestors were from Noord Holland, so the explanation seems entirely possible, but I find it odd that I've never seen the name elsewhere, even in the many names on the Dutch genealogy lists. Have any of you ever seen "Lowessia" in any of the Dutch (or other) records you've come across in your research? Does anyone know if the Anglicized version really is Louise? Thanks! Kaye Steward -----Original Message----- From: Sue Thielmann [mailto:sthielmann@machlink.com] Sent: September 11, 2004 11:05 AM To: IOWA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IOWA] Anglicized Dutch Names When I read about finding an anglicized version of a name, I remembered that I have a glossary of names that a researcher put together. This is not an exhaustive list and it is not my original research. Howard I. Durie did an extensive study of the Durier/Duryea/Durie/Duree families in the U. S. and included this glossary. Some one might find it useful in chasing down your immigrant ancestors. I hope this is helpful. The following is from The Durie Family by Howard I. Durie Glossary of Dutch baptismal names The baptismal names of children as entered in the church records have been followed for the early generations. Those for the girls, in particular, were invariably the diminuative or endearment form, a long established custom of the Dutch which persisted into the first part of the 19th century. Generally speaking, no other version was used during this period. Since most individuals in the early days rarely had to write their names, and no standard form of spelling was known, they appear in a variety of phonetic variations on the records. All of them have not been given, but the examples will serve the purpose. Aaltje, Aeltje, Altje Aldeline, Alice, sometimes Ellen Aart, Aert Arthur AEFJE, AFJE, EVATJE Eve, Effie, Effy, sometimes Euphemia AGNIETJE, ANGENIETJE Agnes ANDRIES Andrew ANAATJE, ANATJE, ANTIE, ANTJE, NAATJE Ann, Anna, Hannah ARIE, AURIE Aaron BAREND, BARENT Bernard BELETJE, BELITJE Isabel BREGHJE, BREGJE Bridget CHRISTYNTJE Christina CAREL Charles CASPARUS Casper, Jasper CATELYNTJE, CATLYNTJE Caroline CATRINA, CATRYNTJE, TRYNTJE Catharine CIETJE, SIETJE Priscilla CLAAS, CLAES, CLAUS, NICAUSIE Nicholas CLAESJE Feminine of Nicholas DERRICK, DIRCK, DIRK Richard DERCKJE Feminine of Richard EPKE Egbert FRANS Francis FRANCYNTJE, SNYTJE Frances FYTJE Sophia GERRIT Garret GEERTJE, GIERTJE, GITTY Gertrude, Charity GUILLIAM William HENDRIK Henry HENDRICKJE Henrietta JACOBUS Jacob, James JACOMYNTJE Jemima JAN, JOHANNIS John JANEKEN, JANNEKE, JANNETJE Jane JOOST Joseph JORIS George LEENDERT Leonard LAURENS Lawrence LEENTJE, LENA Helena, Magdalena, Ellen, Eleano MACHTELT, MARTINA, MARTYNTJE Matilda MARGRIETJE Margaret METJE Martha MATTHYS, TYS Matthew MARIA, MARITJE, MARYA Mary sometimes Polly or Martha NEELTJE Cornelia, Nelly NASHIE, NEESJE Nancy Osseltje, Usseltje Ursula PAULUS Paul PETRUS, PIETER Peter PIETERTJE Feminine of Peter POWLES Paul RACHELTJE, RAGEL Rachel ROELOF Ralph SAARTJE, SARA Sarah, Sally SANTJE, SUSANNAH Susan TEUNIS, THEUNIS Anthony, Tony, Tunis TIETJE Leticia VROUTJE, VROUWTJE Sometimes Sophrona. Actually "little woman." WILLEMTJE Wilhelmina WIENTJE, WYNTJE Lavina ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub instructions, list rules and other useful information. Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

This is a new childs book we are putting online on the Iowa History Site. Below is part of Chapter 1. The entire chapter will be online on the Iowa History Site. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ STORIES OF IOWA FOR BOYS AND GIRLS CHAPTER I IOWA IN THE BEGINNING Did you ever wonder what Iowa was like in the days of long ago, before any white man had come to this region? Of course there were no houses here, nor telephone poles, nor railroads, nor cities, nor even any roads. Then only the Indians and the wild animals lived in what is now Iowa. But the story of Iowa began long before any Indians lived here. Once upon a time, long, long, long ago, all Iowa was under the sea. During this period there were millions of little shell-covered animals living in the shallow parts of the ocean. As they died they sank to the bottom and slowly, shell by shell, layers of limestone were formed. Have you ever seen ledges of limestone along the rivers or creeks in your part of Iowa? In many places throughout the state this limestone is quarried and used for buildings or bridges; or it is crushed to be used in road making or burned to make lime for plaster.

I am in the process of altering my list subscriptions to include my new email address; cschweitzer@gmail.com in case anyone wishes to contact me please use the new address.Thank you, cschweitzer@gmail,com

I tried using plain HTML, the option that they give you on the bottom of the page, and I was able to view the images but the manueverability wasn't the same as with Mr. Sid. I wonder if Ancestry and Sid are having a dispute : ) Sincerley, Kathy

Did have problems last week. Could not view Census pages. Seems to be OK tonight. Don Woodley Researching Ayers, Butler, Cornford, Relf, Trindle, Woodley and others as time permits. RAOGK Lookups and pix for Bremer, Butler, Floyd & Franklin Counties in Iowa.

Thanks for the imput. Perhaps if we send them an e-mail they might remedy the situation faster? I sure hate to put things on hold especially when I forget so much : ) Kathy

Is anyone else having problems viewing certain censis records on Ancestry? I cannot view 1900, 1910 & 1920 census records? I think the other years are fine, or the ones that I have tried to access other than those mentioned above. Sincerely, Kathy

I had some problems yesterday where I got error messages saying the server couldn't find the image. This happened on several 1870, 1860 and 1850 records. I didn't try the other years and I haven't tried again today. ----- Original Message ----- From: <NYFROMCA@aol.com> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 5:15 PM Subject: [IOWA] images on ancestry.com > Is anyone else having problems viewing certain censis records on Ancestry? > I > cannot view 1900, 1910 & 1920 census records? I think the other years are > fine, or the ones that I have tried to access other than those mentioned > above. > Sincerely, Kathy > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Fascinating. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iris Kisch" <irisak@telus.net> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:42 PM Subject: [IOWA] For the fun of it - Iowa Parole in 1916 > Hello all, > > I was browsing through the Iowa history site and came across this link - even if you don't find an elusive and colorful ancestor in this list, it is still an interesting read. Amazing what we all once considered to be against the law. So if you are looking for a brief break for ancestor hunting - take a coffee break and read on - just click on the link below: > > http://iagenweb.org/history/excerpts/1916paroleboard.htm > > Happy ancestor hunting! > > Iris Kisch > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I had a problem - it was due to needing to download the newest mrSID plug in.......go to Lizard Technologies and download the Express View Browser - it controls not only mrSID images but also jPEG2000 which was what I was having a problem with - my system would lock up completely while trying to download the images. All works fine now The link for download is: http://www.lizardtech.com/download/dl_download.php?detail=geo_expressview_plugin&platform=win I've had better luck downloading the complete program from Lizard Tech than the *patch* ancestry offers....... Good Luck Janet State Coordinator for INGenExchange http://www.genexchange.org/state.php?state=in County Coordinator for Lawrence County INGenExchange http://www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=xx&county=Lawrence ----- Original Message ----- From: <NYFROMCA@aol.com> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:15 PM Subject: [IOWA] images on ancestry.com > Is anyone else having problems viewing certain censis records on Ancestry? I > cannot view 1900, 1910 & 1920 census records? I think the other years are > fine, or the ones that I have tried to access other than those mentioned above. > Sincerely, Kathy > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

I am looking for Peter Peters and his brother Chresten C. Petersen in Black Hawk Co. in 1895. I believe they immigrated in 1885. Peter born about 1862-1867 died 1931 was about 28 and married to Kristine "Grace" Petersen Peters 1868-1929 (From Independence, IA). Peter may have used the family name Petersen at that time. No children. In 1900 they are in Sioux Falls. Chresten C. Petersen 1864-1937 and married to Chrestine Unknown born 1862. Probably no children yet. The brothers possibly were in the bakery business together. They are all Danish and there are multiple unrelated Petersen families in the area so Chresten may have used CC instead of his first name. Thanks, Ed

Speculatively, he was enroute, he died on the way there, he was there and dead but not yet buried, he was so near death as to be recorded as dead, or....???? The zero years in the state would seem to indicate that he was not with the family at all, but rather was on his way or for some reason missing--on a journey to join the family is my guess--and so overdue as to be presumed dead. Nobody in the family knew his age or birthplace. Penny Ellis Athey Ozark, MO Major research lines: ARNETT, ATHEY/ATHY/ATHA, BETTIS, BLAND/BLAN/BLANN/BLAIN/BLAINE, BOON/BOONE, BURGESS, CARR, CARTER, COLE/COLES/COAL/COALE(s), CROCKETT, DARST/DURST, DORSEY, ELLIS, FLETCHER, FORD/FORDE/FOARD, FOSTER, HANKS, HOPKINS, ILES, JONES, KAUP, LAWRENCE, LINCOLN, MAIN/MAINE, MARCUM/MARKHAM, McDANNALD/McDANNOLD/McDANIEL/McDONALD, McELVAIN(E)/McILVAIN(E), McKISSICK/McKISSACK, OLDFIELD, OSBORNE/OSBORN/OSBOURNE, PRIBBLE, RAY/RHEA/WRAY, SANDUSKY/SADOWSKI/SODOWSKI, WHEELER, WILCOXEN/WILCOXSON/WILCOCKSON etc WILSON and OTHERS. > [Original Message] > From: Sue Thielmann <sthielmann@machlink.com> > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 9/12/2004 3:29:33 PM > Subject: Re: [IOWA] 1856 Hardin County Question > > Just speculating . . . . > Since the family members are all listed as living in the state for 0 years, > perhaps he was returned to the place of former residence for burial. Could > Hiram have died at census time? Perhaps his name had been written in the > ledger but none of the info had been entered at the time of his death. > Rather than mark out an entered name, the enumerator chose this way of > dealing with an unusual circumstance. The date of death on the death > certificate and possible burial information from his former residence might > clear this up. > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kelly Shaw" <kelly647@yahoo.com> > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 2:01 PM > Subject: [IOWA] 1856 Hardin County Question > > > > Hello list, > > re: Hiram Davis > > Would anyone know why a person would be listed in 1856 Hardin County, > > Providence twp, http://www.rootsweb.com/~iahardin/56census/56dcnss.html > > census without any information and his wife (Catherine) to be listed as a > > widow.? > > I also do not see a burial in Hardin County for him either. > > If anyone can figure this out, I know its the wonderful people on this > > list. > > > > Thanks so much, > > Kelly Shaw > > > > > > > > > > > > Kelly Shaw, Polk County Coordinator, IaGenWeb > > > > Researching: Appleby,Buyers/Byers,Davis,Fodrea,Parisho Surnames > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Just speculating . . . . Since the family members are all listed as living in the state for 0 years, perhaps he was returned to the place of former residence for burial. Could Hiram have died at census time? Perhaps his name had been written in the ledger but none of the info had been entered at the time of his death. Rather than mark out an entered name, the enumerator chose this way of dealing with an unusual circumstance. The date of death on the death certificate and possible burial information from his former residence might clear this up. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Shaw" <kelly647@yahoo.com> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 2:01 PM Subject: [IOWA] 1856 Hardin County Question > Hello list, > re: Hiram Davis > Would anyone know why a person would be listed in 1856 Hardin County, > Providence twp, http://www.rootsweb.com/~iahardin/56census/56dcnss.html > census without any information and his wife (Catherine) to be listed as a > widow.? > I also do not see a burial in Hardin County for him either. > If anyone can figure this out, I know its the wonderful people on this > list. > > Thanks so much, > Kelly Shaw > > > > > > Kelly Shaw, Polk County Coordinator, IaGenWeb > > Researching: Appleby,Buyers/Byers,Davis,Fodrea,Parisho Surnames > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

In 1880 A. Grieshammer & Annie, both 63, Born Bayern (Prussia ? ) were living in the h/h of William & Kattie (sic) Tretten in Union twp, Worth co. In 1895 William, Rate, (as enumerated) Trettin & family are still in Union twp. Dick May you live to be a hundred, with an extra year to repent! (Irish proverb) Iris Kisch wrote: >To answer your questions - they are the parents of one of my husband's >ancestors - Anna Elizabeth Grieshammer Gellermann. Anna Elizabeth was his >ggg grandmother. Their names were on her death certificate, and appear as >well on church records as witnesses to baptisms of Anna Elizabeth's >children. Prior to moving to Iowa, the Gellermann family resided in >Illinois, to the best of my knowledge, the Grieshammer family lived at or >near Grafton, Worth County, Iowa, as did the other two known daughters. > >To the best of my knowledge, they had the following children: >Anna Elizabeth Grieshammer Gellermann (she was born in 1845 - she married in >1864) >Mary Margaretha Grieshammer Urbatsch (she was born in 1843 - she married in >1868) >Catharina Margaretha Grieshammer Trettin (she was born in 1855 - date of >marriage unknown) > >Date of emigration/immigration for these two ancestors is unknown. I >surmise it was in the 1860's as that is when Anna Elizabeth emigrated. >Prior to that they lived in Bavaria. > >Unfortunately, that is all the information that I have on these two >ancestors. I trust this helps a little bit. > > > > > >

In 1880 A. Grieshammer & Annie, both 63, Born Bayern (Prussia ? ) were living in the h/h of William & Kattie (sic) Tretten in Union twp, Worth co. In 1895 William, Rate, (as enumerated) Trettin & family are still in Union twp. Dick May you live to be a hundred, with an extra year to repent! (Irish proverb) Iris Kisch wrote: >To answer your questions - they are the parents of one of my husband's >ancestors - Anna Elizabeth Grieshammer Gellermann. Anna Elizabeth was his >ggg grandmother. Their names were on her death certificate, and appear as >well on church records as witnesses to baptisms of Anna Elizabeth's >children. Prior to moving to Iowa, the Gellermann family resided in >Illinois, to the best of my knowledge, the Grieshammer family lived at or >near Grafton, Worth County, Iowa, as did the other two known daughters. > >To the best of my knowledge, they had the following children: >Anna Elizabeth Grieshammer Gellermann (she was born in 1845 - she married in >1864) >Mary Margaretha Grieshammer Urbatsch (she was born in 1843 - she married in >1868) >Catharina Margaretha Grieshammer Trettin (she was born in 1855 - date of >marriage unknown) > >Date of emigration/immigration for these two ancestors is unknown. I >surmise it was in the 1860's as that is when Anna Elizabeth emigrated. >Prior to that they lived in Bavaria. > >Unfortunately, that is all the information that I have on these two >ancestors. I trust this helps a little bit. > > > > > >

What IS known of these folk? Nativity? Known family members? What is your source for their existence? Dick May you live to be a hundred, with an extra year to repent! (Irish proverb) > >I would appreciate a look-up in the 1900 and/or 1895 Census lookup for the following individuals: > >Erhardt Christian Grieshammer - Head of Household >Anna Maria Grieshammer - Wife > >I regret I cannot provide ages for these two ancestors, or if there were any other family members in the household at this >time. I believe they resided in or near Grafton, close to other family members. Hopefully, from this information I can narrow down a date of death, and order a death certificate. > > >

To answer your questions - they are the parents of one of my husband's ancestors - Anna Elizabeth Grieshammer Gellermann. Anna Elizabeth was his ggg grandmother. Their names were on her death certificate, and appear as well on church records as witnesses to baptisms of Anna Elizabeth's children. Prior to moving to Iowa, the Gellermann family resided in Illinois, to the best of my knowledge, the Grieshammer family lived at or near Grafton, Worth County, Iowa, as did the other two known daughters. To the best of my knowledge, they had the following children: Anna Elizabeth Grieshammer Gellermann (she was born in 1845 - she married in 1864) Mary Margaretha Grieshammer Urbatsch (she was born in 1843 - she married in 1868) Catharina Margaretha Grieshammer Trettin (she was born in 1855 - date of marriage unknown) Date of emigration/immigration for these two ancestors is unknown. I surmise it was in the 1860's as that is when Anna Elizabeth emigrated. Prior to that they lived in Bavaria. Unfortunately, that is all the information that I have on these two ancestors. I trust this helps a little bit. Iris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Tague" <dicktague@devtex.net> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [IOWA] 1900 &/or 1895 Census Look up for Grieshammer in Worth County > What IS known of these folk? Nativity? Known family members? What is > your source for their existence? Dick > > May you live to be a hundred, with an extra year to repent! (Irish proverb) > > > > > > > >I would appreciate a look-up in the 1900 and/or 1895 Census lookup for the following individuals: > > > >Erhardt Christian Grieshammer - Head of Household > >Anna Maria Grieshammer - Wife > > > >I regret I cannot provide ages for these two ancestors, or if there were any other family members in the household at this > >time. I believe they resided in or near Grafton, close to other family members. Hopefully, from this information I can narrow down a date of death, and order a death certificate. > > > > > > > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hello list, re: Hiram Davis Would anyone know why a person would be listed in 1856 Hardin County, Providence twp, http://www.rootsweb.com/~iahardin/56census/56dcnss.html census without any information and his wife (Catherine) to be listed as a widow.? I also do not see a burial in Hardin County for him either. If anyone can figure this out, I know its the wonderful people on this list. Thanks so much, Kelly Shaw Kelly Shaw, Polk County Coordinator, IaGenWeb Researching: Appleby,Buyers/Byers,Davis,Fodrea,Parisho Surnames __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hello all, I was browsing through the Iowa history site and came across this link - even if you don't find an elusive and colorful ancestor in this list, it is still an interesting read. Amazing what we all once considered to be against the law. So if you are looking for a brief break for ancestor hunting - take a coffee break and read on - just click on the link below: http://iagenweb.org/history/excerpts/1916paroleboard.htm Happy ancestor hunting! Iris Kisch

Good day to all; I would appreciate a look-up in the 1900 and/or 1895 Census lookup for the following individuals: Erhardt Christian Grieshammer - Head of Household Anna Maria Grieshammer - Wife I regret I cannot provide ages for these two ancestors, or if there were any other family members in the household at this time. I believe they resided in or near Grafton, close to other family members. Hopefully, from this information I can narrow down a date of death, and order a death certificate. Thank you so much for your assistance. Iris Kisch