Don't get me wrong, I love doing research at 3 AM in my bathrobe instead of waiting weeks or months for microfilm rolls and cramming a lot of stuff into a few hours in the library and so forth. It is so much better than spending thousands of dollars to travel all over the country and deal with decreasingly helpful county clerks. I really do *love* online genealogy and subscribe to just about every paid subscription site out there and have made a lot of progress beyond the 40 previous years of doing things the old fashioned way. I am extremely grateful to the LDS mothership for giving us Rootsweb and FamilySearch.org, along with the other sites in their genealogy megalopoly. My guess on the problem with the "A" website (from experience with maintaining websites) is that one of several things can and will go wrong in conducting a search for information on a big website such as this one: 1) the specific database itself has been corrupted and thus record #x1 through record #xy12 are no longer "read" in a search; 2) the database's index has been corrupted and thus the search no longer accesses the full index, and/or the link to a particular database or part thereof has not yet been added (thus you will not find things in newly added databases until months later if ever when you do a global search); 3) a link that used to be valid is no longer valid because things have been copied to different servers, folders, etc; 4) the file has been translated into a different kind of file format, and in the process, records were lost, compressed, or somehow are not now read (I think I have noticed several cases of this sort of thing); 5) there is so much transcription going on that in order to maximize profits, the work has been sent to a developing country where English is a second language and a census taker's writing looks as much like Greek to them as Parsi does to us :-) ; 6) your computer or data transfer method is faster than their server can keep up with, so you get a fragmented return (this has happened to me and I had to go in and reduce my modem speed so that census and newspaper and historical book images would download, otherwise, I would get a "sorry" message or "server not found"). In any case, the problem should always be reported and when one gets back the standard computer-generated message, one should pick up the phone and raise holy heck to first the sales and next the technical support folks. It is their job to maintain such failures of performance on their website. You are paying premium money for a service which you are not receiving "as advertised." If you don't officially complain, then the squeaky wheel (the consumer at large) will not get the grease. Good example, why is the SSDI (a prime number one "go there first" resource) no longer being updated? Out of experience, I have almost quit using the global search feature and go directly to "list all databases" and scroll through to whatever looks promising. Even then, I see that some of those databases have changed format. A good example is the Iowa State Censuses. What I have from 2 years ago is vastly different from what comes up now. (Searching on the same names that produced results then does not produce results now.) I find it interesting that at the moment, a link from another website will take me right to a search engine for a particular book in the family & historical books collection, while logging directly onto "A" and typing in the exact same search criteria either as a global search or directly in the family & historical books collection gets me either nothing or 322,245 results. Something is wrong with that picture. Onward through the fog. > [Original Message] > From: Don <dwdwrks2@omnitelcom.com> > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 9/20/2004 12:41:15 PM > Subject: Re: [IOWA] Civil War Records > > It seems like "A" has a way of making changes and not telling anyone. The > information is still there and it doesn't cost any more (this time) - it's > just a more complicated path now to find it. > > Don Woodley > > Researching Ayers, Butler, Cornford, Relf, Trindle, Woodley and others as > time permits. > > RAOGK Lookups and pix for Bremer, Butler, Floyd & Franklin Counties in Iowa. > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I agree with you about Ancestry. I recently did the two free week thing and found a few things I didn't have but I didn't feel it warrented subscribing to the tune of $200.00 for a year. I would just as soon take a trip to Salt Lake City to the Family History Library. For me it is not so bad for I live in Arizona. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bhoudek" <bhoudek@swbell.net> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 6:02 AM Subject: Re: [IOWA] Civil War Records > Knowing Ancestry, they more than likely figured out a way to charge extra > for them. For me, they get more expensive and deliver less!! > > Bill Houdek > bhoudek@swbell.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MVoss730@aol.com> > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 5:55 PM > Subject: [IOWA] Civil War Records > > > > Has Ancestry taken references to Civil War records off their website? > > Records I could find earlier I no longer am able to find. They were most > helpful > > in giving the information needed to order from Nara.gov. Now I have no > way > > to easily find that information. > > > > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ______________________________

I did that on your James and got over 10,000 retults. You will need to narrow it down by state or some other qualifier. Major research lines: ARNETT, ATHEY/ATHY/ATHA, BETTIS, BLAND/BLAN/BLANN/BLAIN/BLAINE, BOON/BOONE, BURGESS, CARR, CARTER, COLE/COLES/COAL/COALE(s), COOKE, CROCKETT, DARST/DURST, DORSEY, ELLIS, FLETCHER, FORD/FORDE/FOARD, FOSTER, HANKS, HOPKINS, ILES, JONES, KAUP, LAWRENCE, LEE, LINCOLN, MAIN/MAINE, MARCUM/MARKHAM, McDANNALD/McDANNOLD/McDANIEL/McDONALD, McELVAIN(E)/McILVAIN(E), McKISSICK/McKISSACK, MOODY, OLDRIDGE, OSBORNE/OSBORN/OSBOURNE, PRIBBLE, RAY/RHEA/WRAY, SANDUSKY/SADOWSKI/SODOWSKI, SNOW, WARREN, WASHINGTON, WHEELER, WILCOXEN/WILCOXSON/WILCOCKSON, WILSON, and OTHERS. > [Original Message] > From: <HARR0LD@aol.com> > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 9/19/2004 7:37:07 PM > Subject: Re: [IOWA] Civil War Records > > > In a message dated 9/19/2004 5:56:25 PM Central Standard Time, > MVoss730@aol.com writes: > > Has Ancestry taken references to Civil War records off their website? > Records I could find earlier I no longer am able to find. They were most > helpful > in giving the information needed to order from Nara.gov. Now I have no way > to easily find that information. > > > > Have you tried searching under Military Records only? > Here is what you need to do to search just the Civil War Pension Records: > Click on Search Records at top of page > Then Click on Military Records (on the right of the page) > Then go towards the bottom of the page under Search Individual Military > Databases: > and select Civil War Pension Index > Then click on the go button. > This will take you to a page to submit your search. > > This is the only way at this time that I have been able to find records that > I was once able to find with the search engine from the main page on > Ancestry. > > I do hope this is of some help to you. > Good luck in your search. > Sincerely, > Tonia > > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

It seems like "A" has a way of making changes and not telling anyone. The information is still there and it doesn't cost any more (this time) - it's just a more complicated path now to find it. Don Woodley Researching Ayers, Butler, Cornford, Relf, Trindle, Woodley and others as time permits. RAOGK Lookups and pix for Bremer, Butler, Floyd & Franklin Counties in Iowa.

Knowing Ancestry, they more than likely figured out a way to charge extra for them. For me, they get more expensive and deliver less!! Bill Houdek bhoudek@swbell.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <MVoss730@aol.com> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 5:55 PM Subject: [IOWA] Civil War Records > Has Ancestry taken references to Civil War records off their website? > Records I could find earlier I no longer am able to find. They were most helpful > in giving the information needed to order from Nara.gov. Now I have no way > to easily find that information. > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Didn't pay attention in grade school geography class huh Cheryl? Mz. Cox was a mill hand in the major industry in the area, the textile mills. Have a good 'un! Dick May you live to be a hundred, with an extra year to repent! (Irish proverb) Chebow1@aol.com wrote: >Could someone please look at the 1860 census for Judith Cox in Middlesex, >Massachusetts, (Lowell Ward 6)and let me know what they think that her occupation >is. I cant make it out. Thanks, Cheryl > > > > >

Could someone please look at the 1860 census for Judith Cox in Middlesex, Massachusetts, (Lowell Ward 6)and let me know what they think that her occupation is. I cant make it out. Thanks, Cheryl

Thanks for all the helpful suggestions. Will try in the morning and see what luck I have. Iowa list comes through every time.

In a message dated 9/19/2004 5:56:25 PM Central Standard Time, MVoss730@aol.com writes: Has Ancestry taken references to Civil War records off their website? Records I could find earlier I no longer am able to find. They were most helpful in giving the information needed to order from Nara.gov. Now I have no way to easily find that information. Have you tried searching under Military Records only? Here is what you need to do to search just the Civil War Pension Records: Click on Search Records at top of page Then Click on Military Records (on the right of the page) Then go towards the bottom of the page under Search Individual Military Databases: and select Civil War Pension Index Then click on the go button. This will take you to a page to submit your search. This is the only way at this time that I have been able to find records that I was once able to find with the search engine from the main page on Ancestry. I do hope this is of some help to you. Good luck in your search. Sincerely, Tonia

http://iagenweb.org/civilwar/regiment/infantry/48th/48th-inf.html has your gentleman on it I believe. Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: <MVoss730@aol.com> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 7:17 PM Subject: [IOWA] Civil War Records > Thanks for responses. All I know is that I had copied information regarding > James F. Miller from records several months ago, now I can find nothing. It > listed his name, numbers of the files on the pension records, names of > petitioning widows. Now nothing. > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ >

Thanks for responses. All I know is that I had copied information regarding James F. Miller from records several months ago, now I can find nothing. It listed his name, numbers of the files on the pension records, names of petitioning widows. Now nothing.

Not sure about the Rootsweb link but here is the link to the NARA Military Records - Civil War page. http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/military/civil_war_records.html Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: <MVoss730@aol.com> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: [IOWA] Civil War Records > Has Ancestry taken references to Civil War records off their website? > Records I could find earlier I no longer am able to find. They were most helpful > in giving the information needed to order from Nara.gov. Now I have no way > to easily find that information. > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Has Ancestry taken references to Civil War records off their website? Records I could find earlier I no longer am able to find. They were most helpful in giving the information needed to order from Nara.gov. Now I have no way to easily find that information.

Is there anyone kind enough to help with obit lookups for: Adolph Winkler d: 11/28/1904 (might also be known as Gustav A. Winkler) Amalia A. Winkler d: 9/9/1910 Both were born in Germany, but were residents of Sioux City, Iowa from the 1880's until their deaths. Thanks, Scott Winkler winkler@digitalammo.com

This is something from ME to all of YOU..read this and smile! A cousin sent this to me..and we both are in awe of how our GREAT Grandmothers had to do things. Just a little tidbit of history for us to think about...and you know what just dawned on me? My husband is the Maytag Man...he would not have anything to do back in those days, would he? He sure does stay busy now, though.....Linda Years ago an Alabama grandmother gave the new bride the following recipe. This is an exact copy as written and found in an old scrapbook - with spelling errors and all. (imagine having a recipe for this ! ! !) WASHING CLOTHES Build fire in backyard to heat kettle of rain water. Set tubs so smoke wont blow in eyes if wind is pert. Shave one hole cake of lie soap in boilin water. Sort things, make 3 piles 1 pile white, 1 pile colored, 1 pile work britches and rags. To make starch, stir flour in cool water to smooth, then thin down with boiling water. Take white things, rub dirty spots on board, scrub hard, and boil, then rub colored don't boil just wrench and starch. Take things out of kettle with broom stick handle, then wrench, and starch. Hang old rags on fence. Spread tea towels on grass. Pore wrench water in flower bed. Scrub porch with hot soapy water. Turn tubs upside down. Go put on clean dress, smooth hair with hair combs. Brew cup of tea, sit and rock a spell and count your blessings. ================================================ Paste this over your washer and dryer. Next time when you think things are bleak, read it again, kiss that washing machine and dryer, and give thanks. First thing each morning you should run and hug your washer and dryer. (For you non-southerners -wrench means rinse ) **************************************************** Linda Ziemann IA GenWeb Welcome Hostess, Co-Chair welcome@iagenweb.org Iowa GenWeb County Coordinator http://www.iagenweb.org/ Plymouth County, Monona County, Sioux County, Cerro Gordo County. Plymouth County, IA Old Press Host http://www.iowaoldpress.com/IA/Plymouth/index.html "A Look Back at the Lives & Times of our Ancestors"

Angel, Who or what is your interest in Dean? My family is from that area, in fact until 1963 my grandparents farmed in Dean. Their home is not there any longer, but there are still a few people living there. There are a few, very few mind you, buildings still standing, but they are mostly abandoned. The Chariton River is VERY near Dean, in fact I can recall driving down the road that runs by Dean when it was covered by flood waters. There is a marker along the road to remind people where the community of Dean existed. There is also a marker that does the same for Coal City, which is down the road and around the corner. Sheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: <MAGIKALNITES@aol.com> Has anyone ever heard of Dean, Iowa???? Angel

I am waiting for the microfilm to be shipped up to the Gen. Library on the death of Jennie Campbell. Does anyone have any info on Jennie Campbell or Harvey Holton (her husband) ? I know they were in or close to Dean, Ia. which was a village in Appanoose County, Ia. They were in the area around 1907 when my Grandma was born. Thanks, Angel

Deb, Thank you for the arduous task of posting those **outstanding** stories and getting them online to share! That is really rewarding but challenging work. THANK YOU! As a mother of four children (four kids in six years) I can appreciate the stories on how a mother actually lived. I would complain about cloth diapers and pins if there weren't waterproof velcro diaper covers! (yes, I was born when Nixon was in office)...in those days, they would not even know the convenience of pins! ~Jenny _________________________________________________________________ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx

I have placed a What's New page http://iagenweb.org/iaorphans/whats_new.shtml on the Orphan Train Rider IAGenWeb Special Project pages! Please visit and explore! There are pages to submit Biographies, Lookup Resources, Newspaper Resources, Photographs, Rider stories and Surnames. If you have material to contribute, I would love to add it to the pages! Tina Vickery Orphan Train Riders http://iagenweb.org/iaorphans/

Does anyone know a site that will give the variations of the name Jerusha? I have a Jerusha Osborn b. in Iowa but haven't been able to find who she married. I know there are different ways of spelling "Jerusha" and was hoping to find variations to the spelling. Thank you, Linda http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~treesearcher