Heidi - Anyone can subscribe to the Godrey library, but you can access Heritagequest through a subscription to the Charter-Pierce Memorial Internet Genealogical Society of Des Moines, IA http://www.charter-pierce.org/ and access it from home. If your genealogy research is in Iowa this might make more sense for you. However, Godfrey has other resources available - some Irish resources, African American, the Historical New York Times, and another newspaper database which name I can't think of right now. Check your local libraries to see what they offer - many have these databases that you can access from home with your library card. Some libraries offer local newspapers and other historical information pertaining to the area they cover. Lisa llepore@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heidi" <Jdondietc@mchsi.com> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 8:48 PM Subject: [IOWA] Godfrey Library CT access > Can anyone tell me if I can get access to Heritage Quest through a library in Iowa. On Westchester County, New York List was info about subscribing through http://www.godfrey.org/ Access is free to people in CT with library card. > > I asked if people from Iowa could subscribe and the response is as follows > > Godfrey Library offers this service and much more for $35 per year. > You get to see the census typed and also in it's original form. Great > bargain and excellent results. By the way, I visited the Godfrey Library in > person on a recent trip to Conneticut and found a small but very well > attended genealogical library just chock full of super great books and > informatiion. The staff was excellent and helpful. They have computers > there which allow you access to Ancestry.com and more too -- so it was a > dream place to be for an avid genealogist such as me. I spent three days at > the library and couldn't even hit the tip of the information iceberg. > Please don't miss it if you ever get to CT. Try it, you'll like it! > > > Yes, from any place, they have an application at the web site for > joining the scollar program that you can send in. If you call on the > phone they will set your membership up over the phone and give you your > bar code number that will allow you in. > > You may want to check with your local library first, I am sure that CT > is not the only state where any public library card from that state gets > you into Heritage quest. Ct dues not publish the info but any library > in CT will tell the people with a lbrary card that it will work at > iconn.org If you find other States I am sure that there are others on > many list that would like to know. >

In a message dated 11/5/04 10:02:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, IOWA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Most local libraries now have a subscription to HeritageQuest. Access is > through your library card Would you please tell me what type of information is available thru Heritage Quest? Thanks! And thanks, Debbie, for all your Northwestern Iowa posts. Even tho' I've not seen any ancestors, it makes for interesting reading! Nanci Researching: Planck, Irwin, Eychaner, Evenson, Lomholt, Whipple, Paulson, Hovelson

Also, if you are a member of the Ohio Genealogical Society, access to Heritage Quest is free with OGS membership. Harry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/04

Charter-Pierce Memorial Library in Des Moines also offers remote access to the Heritage Quest resources. The URL is http://www.charter-pierce.org/, and I believe an annual membership is$20. Greta Thompson IAGenWeb ASC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heidi" <Jdondietc@mchsi.com> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 7:48 PM Subject: [IOWA] Godfrey Library CT access > Can anyone tell me if I can get access to Heritage Quest through a library > in Iowa. On Westchester County, New York List was info about subscribing > through http://www.godfrey.org/ Access is free to people in CT with > library card. > > I asked if people from Iowa could subscribe and the response is as follows > > Godfrey Library offers this service and much more for $35 per year. > You get to see the census typed and also in it's original form. Great > bargain and excellent results. By the way, I visited the Godfrey Library > in > person on a recent trip to Conneticut and found a small but very well > attended genealogical library just chock full of super great books and > informatiion. The staff was excellent and helpful. They have computers > there which allow you access to Ancestry.com and more too -- so it was a > dream place to be for an avid genealogist such as me. I spent three days > at > the library and couldn't even hit the tip of the information iceberg. > Please don't miss it if you ever get to CT. Try it, you'll like it! > > > > > Yes, from any place, they have an application at the web site for > joining the scollar program that you can send in. If you call on the > phone they will set your membership up over the phone and give you your > bar code number that will allow you in. > > You may want to check with your local library first, I am sure that CT > is not the only state where any public library card from that state gets > you into Heritage quest. Ct dues not publish the info but any library > in CT will tell the people with a lbrary card that it will work at > iconn.org If you find other States I am sure that there are others on > many list that would like to know. > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Can anyone tell me if I can get access to Heritage Quest through a library in Iowa. On Westchester County, New York List was info about subscribing through http://www.godfrey.org/ Access is free to people in CT with library card. I asked if people from Iowa could subscribe and the response is as follows Godfrey Library offers this service and much more for $35 per year. You get to see the census typed and also in it's original form. Great bargain and excellent results. By the way, I visited the Godfrey Library in person on a recent trip to Conneticut and found a small but very well attended genealogical library just chock full of super great books and informatiion. The staff was excellent and helpful. They have computers there which allow you access to Ancestry.com and more too -- so it was a dream place to be for an avid genealogist such as me. I spent three days at the library and couldn't even hit the tip of the information iceberg. Please don't miss it if you ever get to CT. Try it, you'll like it! Yes, from any place, they have an application at the web site for joining the scollar program that you can send in. If you call on the phone they will set your membership up over the phone and give you your bar code number that will allow you in. You may want to check with your local library first, I am sure that CT is not the only state where any public library card from that state gets you into Heritage quest. Ct dues not publish the info but any library in CT will tell the people with a lbrary card that it will work at iconn.org If you find other States I am sure that there are others on many list that would like to know.

NORTHWESTERN IOWA ITS HISTORY AND TRADITION VOLUME II 1804-1926 WILBUR OWEN One of the oldest attorneys in point of continuous service in Sioux City is Wilbur Owen, who is also numbered among the ablest and most successful, standing high in the confidence of the people and in the respect of his professional colleagues. He was born at Bethel, Vermont, on the 24the of October, 1863, and is a son of George B. and Carrie (Clark) Owen, the former a native of Bethel, Vermont, and the latter of Claremont, New Hampshire. The Owen family has lived at Bethelfor many generations, one of the ancestors, Sylvanus Owen, having been a soldier of the War of the Revolution. His son, Andrew Owen, was the great-grand-father of the subject of this sketch. George B. Owen was engaged in farming in Vermont, where he remained until 1875, when he brought his family to Iowa, settling in Linn county, where he bought a farm just outside of Marion, the county seat. Later he moved to Des Moines, where he spent his remaining years, his death occurring in 1917. Wilbur Owen received his elementary education in the public schools, graduating from the Marion high school in 1881. He then attended Coe College at Cedar Rapids, where he was graduated in 1886, with the degree of Bachelor of Science, after which he entered the law school of the University of Michigan, where he received the degree of Bachelor of Laws in 1888. In that year he came to Sioux City and entered upon the practice of law, in which he has been engaged to the present time - a period of thirty-eight years. During the first ten years of his practice here he was associated with A. C. Strong, under the firm name of Strong & Owen, but since 1898 he has been alone in the practice. During these eventful years in the history of Sioux City, Mr. Owen has held a place in the front rank of the attorneys of this city, having been identified as counsel with much of the important litigation in the Woodbury county courts, and he has long been regarded as an able, astute and successful lawyer, commanding his full share of the legal business of the community. In 1890 Mr. Owen was united in marriage to Miss Anna G. Jandt, the youngest daughter of H. A. Jandt, who for many years was engaged in the wholesale dry goods business in this city and was regarded as one of Sioux City's foremost citizens. To Mr. and Mrs. Owen was born a daughter, Dorothy, now the wife of K. H. Myers, who is engaged in the automobile business at New Castle, Nebraska, and they have a son, Kenneth. Mrs. Owen is a member of the Presbyterian church and has long been a popular member of the circles in which she moves. Mr. Owen is a charter member of the Sioux City Boat Club. He is a man of great force of character, of marked ability as a lawyer, strong in his advocacy of all measures calculated to benefit the city in any way, and possesses a friendliness of manner that has gained for him not only a wide acquaintance, but also the respect and admiration of all who know him. Debbie Clough Gerischer Iowa Gen Web, Assistant CC, Scott County http://www.celticcousins.net/scott/ IAGENWEB: Special History Project: http://iagenweb.org/history/index.htm Gerischer Family Web Site: http://gerischer.rootsweb.com/

Here are two more Iowa library systems that have HeritageQuest for their patrons: Burlington Public Library http://www.burlington.lib.ia.us/resource/GENEHIS.html a.. Heritage Quest Online Burlington Public Library has a subscription which allows card holders to access this resource. Includes full-text local histories and genealogies as well as census indexes and images. Tips for using Heritage Quest Online. Musser Public Library http://www.muscatinelibrary.us/research_it.html Muscatine And this message from jan has another sent this one for Waterloo http://www.wplwloo.lib.ia.us/genealog.html Constance

Iowa City Public Library has HeritageQuest. The URL showing a list of the databases they have is at http://www.icpl.org/resources/infodbs/ . Contact information is at the following address: Genealogical Information on the Web Iowa City Public Library Contact person: Reference Desk Phone Number: 356-5200 option 5 http://www.icpl.org/ Constance

Check with your local public library. Most local libraries now have a subscription to HeritageQuest. Access is through your library card. My local library just subscribed earlier this year and all I have to do is go to the library site and use my card number to access HeritageQuest. My cousins has it in Minnesota and California. Constance in Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: Heidi To: IOWA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 5:48 PM Subject: [IOWA] Godfrey Library CT access Can anyone tell me if I can get access to Heritage Quest through a library in Iowa. On Westchester County, New York List was info about subscribing through http://www.godfrey.org/ Access is free to people in CT with library card.

NORTHWESTERN IOWA ITS HISTORY AND TRADITION VOLUME II 1804-1926 W. R. NEAL In no line of public service is there demanded more careful and painstaking attention to the wants and tastes of the people than in that of hotelkeeping, and he who through a series of years has successfully managed to please and satisfy those who have patronized him has earned the respect of his fellowmen. To William R. Neal must be accorded a due meed of praise because of his splended record in the operation of the Antlers Hotel at spirit Lake, for under his management the place has increased in popularity and custom and is now one of the best patronized hotels in Iowa. Mr. Neal was born in Sedalia, Missouri, on the 10th of June, 1877, and is a son of John and Mary (Johnson) Neal, both of whom were natives of Missouri. The father was engaged in a mercantile business in Pettis county, Missouri, for a number of years, but died when his son William was but a child. The widowed mother reared her three children, two sons and a daughter, and nobly fulfilled her mission in life. William R. Neal attended the public schools of Sedalia and at the age of nineteen years he engaged in the stationery business in that city. A year later, going to St. Louis, he became a member of the office force of the Planters Hotel, which has for many years been one of the leading hotels of the country. Here, by reason of faithful attention to duty, Mr. Neal was advanced through various positions to that of chief clerk, his connection with that house covering a period of ten years. He then went with the well-known railroad construction firm of McCabe & Steen, of St. Louis, engaged in the building of railroads in all parts of the country. His first position was as head of the commissary department but in an incredibly short time he was advanced to superintendent of construction, in which capacity he directed the building of many miles of railroad in various states of the Union. The great business depression of 1907 practically put a stop to railroad building and he then returned to the Planters Hotel, where he remained for four years. Later he was offered and accepted the management of a string of hotels in Illinois, which he operated for four years, and in 1917, he came to Spirit Lake as manager of the Antlers Hotel. Two years later he bought the property and has continued to devote his time and attention to its operation, making of it one of the most popular hotels in northern Iowa. In 1911 Mr. Neal was united in marriage to Miss Bert Potter, of St. Louis. He is a member of Twilight Lodge, No. 329, Ancient Free and Accepted Masons; Spirit Lake Chapter, No. 132, Royal Arch Masons; Sioux City Consistory, No. 5, Ancient Accepted Scottish Rite; and Abu-Bekr Temple, Ancient Arabic Order of Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, while he and his wife are members of twilight Chapter, No. 59, Order of the Eastern Star. They are also members of the Methodist Episcopal church. Mr. Neal has taken a commendable interest in local public affairs and is a member of the town council of Spirit Lake. He is a man of sound business circles of this city. He is a man of engaging personality, easily makes friends and enjoys marked popularity among his acquaintances. Debbie Clough Gerischer Iowa Gen Web, Assistant CC, Scott County http://www.celticcousins.net/scott/ IAGENWEB: Special History Project: http://iagenweb.org/history/index.htm Gerischer Family Web Site: http://gerischer.rootsweb.com/

NORTHWESTERN IOWA ITS HISTORY AND TRADITION VOLUME II 1804-1926 H. E. NAREY Iowa has been specially honored in the characters and careers of her public and professional men. In every locality are found individuals born to leadership in the various vocations and professions, men who dominate not alone by superior intelligence and natural endowment but by a force of character which gives them an unquestioned place in the front ranks of the citizenship of their communities, where they exert a large and definite influence in a beneficent direction. In this class stands Harry E. Narey, of Spirit Lake, who is accorded a place in the forefront of the successful lawyers of Iowa. He was born on the 4th of May, 1885, in the city in which he now lives, and is a son of Peter and Emma (Meguire) Narey, the father a native of Huntington Canal, Quebec, Canada, and the mother of Portland Maine. Their marriage occurred in Osage, Iowa, whither they had come, he as a lad of sixteen or eighteen years and she in girlhood with her parents. Peter Narey became a traveling salesman for a boot and shoe house, which vocation he followed for a number of years and in 1880 he moved to Spirit Lake. For several years after coming to this place he continued as a commercial traveler but was later elected sheriff, in which office he served several years. Afterwards he was appointed a deputy revenue collector, with headquarters in Sioux City, serving int ht capacity for ten or twelve years. His death occurred in Spirit Lake, March 19, 1914, at the age of sixty-nine years. He is survived by his widow, who is now seventy-three years old. Harry E. Narey attended the Spirit Lake public schools, and Grinnell College, where he took the liberal arts course, and then entered the law school of Iowa Stare University, where he was graduated with the degree of Bachelor of Laws in 1907. The same year he opened a law office in Spirit Lake and has been actively and successfully engaged in the practice of his profession to the present time. During the intervening years he has been identified, as counsel, with most of the important cases in the courts of this section of the state and has gained an enviable reputation as a safe and sound counselor. As a practitioner he has been straightforward and honorable in his methods, employing none of the tricks of the pettifogger, and his zeal for a client never leads him to urge an argument which is not in harmony with the law. In discussions of the principles of law, he is noted for clearness of statement and candor, seeking to impress the jury and court by weight of facts in his favor and by clear, logical argument. In 1913 Mr. Narey was married to Miss Esther Bergman, of Spirit Lake, and to them has been born a son, Peter B. Mrs. Narey is a daughter of A. F. and Mary (Kingman) Bergman. Her mother, who came here in 1861 from Conneaut, Ohio. He homesteaded a tract of land at Spirit Lake and later acquired much other land, a portion being sold for the site of the state home for Knights Templar. A. F. Bergman came to Dickinson county from Hanover, Germany, and became a member of the firm of Johnson & Bergman, merchants at Spirit Lake. He served eight years as postmaster of Spirit Lake and was later for twenty-five years express agent at that place. He is now living retired on the old Kingman homestead at Spirit Lake. Mrs. Narey was educated at Grinnell College and Drake University, finishing her kindergarten training in the latter institution. She then taught two years in Sioux City, one year at Boise, Idaho, and for years at Spirit Lake. She is a member of Twilight Chapter, Order of the Eastern Star; Calvary Shrine No. 18, Order of the White Shrine of Jerusalem; Daughters of the American Revolution; the P. E. O. and the L. B. U., and is a member of the State Federation Committee of Federated Clubs, of which she is chairman. She is a communicant of the Protestant Episcopal church and is active in the club, civic and social life of Spirit Lake. Mr. Narey is a member of the Iowa State Bar Association, and of the Sigma Chi fraternity. He belongs to Twilight Lodge, No. 329, A. F. & A. M.; Spirit Lake Chapter, No. 132, R. A. M.; Esdraelan Commandery, No. 52, K. T. and Abu-Bekr Temple, A. A. O. N. M. S. He is deeply interested in everything pertaining to the progress and upbuilding of Spirit Lake and vicinity and gives his earnest support to all movements for the material, civic or moral betterment of the people. Because of his splendid record as a lawyer, his fine public spirit and his forceful personality, he stands deservedly high in public esteem and confidence. Debbie Clough Gerischer Iowa Gen Web, Assistant CC, Scott County http://www.celticcousins.net/scott/ IAGENWEB: Special History Project: http://iagenweb.org/history/index.htm Gerischer Family Web Site: http://gerischer.rootsweb.com/

NORTHWESTERN IOWA ITS HISTORY AND TRADITION VOLUME II 1804-1926 H. G. MOORE A veteran of the Civil war and one of the venerable and highly respected citizens of Storm Lake, Beuena Vista county, is Henry G. Moore, who, after a long, active and successful life as a farmer, is now retired and is spending the golden sunset of his life in his comfortable home in Storm Lake. Mr. Moore was born in Pennsylvania on the 7th of September, 1842, and is a son of Henry and Margaret Moore, also natives of Pennsylvania. In 1857 they moved to Iowa, first locating in Davenport, from which place they later went by team to Jones county, Iowa, where the father bought a farm. Later he sold that place and went to Linn county, where he settled on another farm and there he and his wife spent their remaining years. Henry G. Moore attended public schools of his native state and was about fifteen years of age when the family migrated westward. He remained with his father until August 5, 1863, when he enlisted in Company K, Eighth Regiment Iowa Volunteer Cavalry, with which he served until the close of the war, escaping without injury, and was mustered out at Macon, Georgia, and honorably discharged at Clinton, Iowa. He served as corporal and then as sergeant. He then returned to Jones county, where he went to work on a farm, remaining there until 1868, when he came to Buena Vista county and bought one hundred and sixty acres of land in Hayes township. During the ensuing forty years he devoted himself closely to the cultivation of this place, which he developed into one of the best farms in that locality, and in 1909 he retired from active farm work and moved into Storm Lake, where he now lives. He still owns his farm of one hundred and sixty acres, and also owns one hundred and sixty acres of land in Oklahoma. On April 29, 1872, Mr. Moore was united in marriage to Miss Helen Scott, who was born in Orleans county, New York, October 8, 1853, a daughter of John and Sarah Scott, both of whom were natives of Scotland. They came to the United States in an early day, locating first in New York, but later moved to Dallas county, Iowa, where the father's death occurred, and the mother afterwards went to Miller, South Dakota, where her death occurred. Of the eleven children born to this worthy couple, Mrs. Helen Moore was the fourth in order of birth and six of them are living. To Mr. and Mrs. Moore have been born six children, as follows: Ulysses W., deceased; Florence, the wife of John Henry, who died in 1910 leaving two daughters, Edith and Irene Moore, now young college students; Maude, wife of David Boyce; and Mae, the wife of E. S. Leggett. Mr. Moore and his wife have long been earnest members of the First Methodist Episcopal church of Storm Lake. Politically he is a stanch supporter of the republican party and was in former years very active in local public affairs, having served as assessor and as school treasurer for fifteen years. He is a member of Baker Post, No. 80, Grand Army of the Republic. Throughout his entire life he has been as true and loyal to his country and her interests in days of peace as when he followed the nation's starry banner on the battlefields of the south. Debbie Clough Gerischer Iowa Gen Web, Assistant CC, Scott County http://www.celticcousins.net/scott/ IAGENWEB: Special History Project: http://iagenweb.org/history/index.htm Gerischer Family Web Site: http://gerischer.rootsweb.com/

NORTHWESTERN IOWA ITS HISTORY AND TRADITION VOLUME II 1804-1926 J. P. MILLS A notable example of a long and useful career is furnished in the life history of John P. Mills, who came to Clay county in pioneer times and was long a factor in the development of its rich farming lands. For more than two decades he has been one of the outstanding figures in commercial circles of Spencer and although he has passed the eightieth milestone on life's journey, he is still active in commercial affairs, retaining the priceless possession of physical and mental vigor. He was born January 11, 1845, in Juniata county, Pennsylvania, and his parents, Samuel and Nancy (Emory) Mills, were also natives of the Keystone state. Mr. Mills is the second in order of birth in a family of ten children. He was reared on the homestead in Lafayette county, Wisconsin, and attended the district school in winter, aiding his father in the cultivation of the fields during the summer months. In 1864, when nineteen years of age, he enlisted in Company E of the Forty-third Wisconsin Volunteer Infantry and served until the close of the Civil war. He then returned to his home and engaged in farming in the Badger state until 1869, when he came to Iowa, first locating in Carroll county. In January, 1870, he moved to Clay county and rented a farm near Sioux Rapids. He operated that place until 1873 and with his savings purchased an eighty-acre tract in Gillett Grove township, on which he established his home. As his resources permitted he added to his holdings and eventually acquired a ranch of five hundred and sixty acres. He afterward sold one hundred and sixty acres and now owns a half section in Clay county. Having an expert knowledge of his occupation, Mr. Mills brought his land to a high state of development, erecting substantial buildings for the shelter of grain and stock, and through unceasing effort transformed the property into one of the finest farms in the township. In 1902 he moved to Spencer and turned his attention to business affairs. He was elected president of the Farmers Mutual Insurance Company and for seventeen years was its executive head. During that period the business made rapid strides and he is now acting treasurer of the company, of which he is also a director. On December 19, 1867, Mr. Mills married Elizabeth Sprague, a native of Cornwall, England, and ten children were born to them. Their son, Charles B., died in 1922. Mr. Mills is affiliated with the Methodist Episcopal church and his wife is also of that faith. He belongs to Annett Post, No. 124, of the Grand Army of the Republic, whose membership is rapidly diminishing, and he finds much enjoyment in his association with the "Boys in Blue." He is a republican in his political views and was formerly active in public affairs. He was county supervisor, road commissioner, and for two terms acted as town clerk, rendering valuable service in each of these offices. Mr. Mills has acquitted himself with dignity, fidelity and honor in every relation in life and occupies a high place in the esteem of his fellowmen. Debbie Clough Gerischer Iowa Gen Web, Assistant CC, Scott County http://www.celticcousins.net/scott/ IAGENWEB: Special History Project: http://iagenweb.org/history/index.htm Gerischer Family Web Site: http://gerischer.rootsweb.com/

I have been trying to help my uncle find out about his father's parents. He only knows his father was in a Protestant orphanage in San Francisco in 1900 on the census and was born in Butte, Montana in 1889. His father always said that he was a 6th or 7th generation George W. Gross. We just got his father's social security application and there it says his mother was Hattie Stoeltel. Both his father's parents were born in Germany. That is all we know so I have been trying to look at immigration records. I cannot find any Stoeltel so they could have married in Germany before coming to America. My query is whether the names Gross and Stoeltel come from any particular part of Germany and if anyone has ever heard of the name Stoeltel before. I can't find it anywhere. We have no idea when they immigrated except obviously they were in Butte in 1889 when his father was born. They must have died and somehow his father ended up in the orphanage in San Francisco. No record of ! any siblings. Any ideas anyone on where I go next? Thanks, Karen

A Day with Dr. Brooks ~ The sixth installment Opened in 1851, The New York Juvenile Asylum merged with the Children's Village in Dobbs Ferry, N.Y. I recently acquired "A Day With Dr. Brooks" authored by Mary E. Dodge. It appeared in the December, 1870 issue of Scribner's Magazine, pgs. 36 - 58. It is a compelling story. I am putting it up in segments. The sixth installment. http://iagenweb.org/iaorphans/resources/brooks06.shtml Tina Vickery http://iagenweb.org/iaorphans/ http://iagenweb.org/iaorphans/whats_new.shtml

Hi Karen ! I can't answer specifically for you but if you go to this page - http://iagenweb.org/chickasaw/heritageindex.htm - there are four links there of German reference which might provide some help or leads. Good luck on your search. Sincerely, Mike Peterson IAGenWeb Chickasaw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Conroy" <karen.conroy@virgin.net> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:30 AM Subject: German names > I have been trying to help my uncle find out about his father's parents. He only knows his father was in a Protestant orphanage in San Francisco in 1900 on the census and was born in Butte, Montana in 1889. His father always said that he was a 6th or 7th generation George W. Gross. We just got his father's social security application and there it says his mother was Hattie Stoeltel. Both his father's parents were born in Germany. That is all we know so I have been trying to look at immigration records. I cannot find any Stoeltel so they could have married in Germany before coming to America. My query is whether the names Gross and Stoeltel come from any particular part of Germany and if anyone has ever heard of the name Stoeltel before. I can't find it anywhere. We have no idea when they immigrated except obviously they were in Butte in 1889 when his father was born. They must have died and somehow his father ended up in the orphanage in San Francisco. No record of ! > any siblings. Any ideas anyone on where I go next? > > Thanks, > > Karen > > ______________________________

Hi JK A you pointed out there is one more Kassel in Germany, It was in Kreis Gelnhausen ( 1901, 92 residents ) today it is in Kreis Main-Kinzig. As for Hasen which is a small Jack rabbit not a rabbit In today's Germany there are Hasenbüren Hasenfeld Hasenkrug Hasenmoor Hasenthal Hasenweiler Hasenwinkel The Gemeinde and Ortslexikon of 1901 shows the following Hasen.. omitted anything which was east of the Oder Neiße Rivers. Hackensack Hasenbüchel Hasenbüren Hasenbusch Hastened Hasenfleth Horsehide Hasenkamp Hasenklev Hasenkrug Hasenmahd Hasenmoor Masonries Hasenthal Hasenvenn Hasenwald Hasenweiler Hasenwinkel ( 2 ) Many of the Hasen.. of 1901 are listed as Vororte and subsequently no show on toady's maps and would not have a name today since they are often only names known to local people and show no inhabitants in 1901. Little has changed in the 1901 Census versus the 1998 CD I have Uwe-Karsten Krickhahn ----- Original Message ----- From: "JK" <jkrug@rogers.com> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [IOWA] Krug > I'm not sure what question this was in response to, but my answer would be: > Kassel is a small town in Hessen-Darmstadt. > > Hessen-Nassau didn't exist in 1838, the period being discussed and > doesn't exist to-day. Therefore, it proves difficult for someone to > locate it easily. > > I was offering Hessen-Kassel as an alternative to Hasenkassel. I don't > believe a town or city called Kassel would be mistakingly written as > Hasenkassel. If the original author of the word was referring to a town, > it would more likely be written as Kasselhasen. > > I imagine there are probably a few more Kassel (Cassel) names in Germany > so narrowing it to one is a bit misleading without more data. > And the two we've mentioned so far are not very close together. > > For what it's worth. > > JK > > Uwe-Karsten Krickhahn wrote: > > Hi > > > > Kassel is a large City in the former province of Hessen Nassau > > > > Uwe-Karsten Krickhahn > > Medicine Hat, Alberta > > Canada > > www.kartenmeister.com > > > > Often some of you are looking for familynames in Germany. You have two > > possibilties. > > > > One: It is the German telephone directory under www.dastelefonbuch.de com > > and switch to English > > > > Two: www.kartenmeister.com it will give you the opportunity to enter > > a familyname on the mainpage, bottom. If you find anything, it will direct > > you to a city, town or villages. Open the hit and browse. You also have the > > possibility to enter a village name and look under the email address listed > > there to make contact. > > > > Uwe > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "JK" <jkrug@rogers.com> > > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [IOWA] Krug > > > > > > > >>No connection as yet. It took me 20 years to show a connection to Iowa. > >>I've been told there was another family which also moved there of which > >>I wasn't aware, so I'll be tracing back through my data for links. > >> > >>I can't find a town called Hasenkassel and I would think Hessen-Kassel > >>would be a better fit. My family is supposed to be from a town in > >>Hessen-Darmstadt but there is a town of the same name in Hessen-Kassel. > >>I'll be working on both possibilities. > >> > >>I haven't come across Justus Krug previously that I recall but can't put > >>my hands on my early German lists at the moment. I think I put them > >>somewhere where they wouldn't get lost. I'll try to locate them later. > >> > >>I would be interested in any more you may have on the Justuc K family. > >> > >>I'm building a new Krug web site to connect all the various Krug data > >>and try to establish some common links. > >> > >>The new site is at http://krug.gensites.com > >> > >>I'm evaluating some genealogy programs this week and next and should be > >>ready to go in a couple of weeks. > >> > >>Some of the programs are at: > >>http://krug.gensites.com/ged4/index.php > >>http://krug.gensites.com/ged2/index.php > >>http://krug.gensites.com/ged1/genealogy.php > >> > >>I'll be looking for input into the site and maybe we can solve some of > >>our brickwalls. > >> > >>John K > >> > >>Marrrmar@aol.com wrote: > >> > >>>I have an Anna Elizabeth KRUG b. 20 Oct 1836 Hasenkassel Germany. > >>> Married Henry LINNEMANN 16 Nov 1857, Van Buren, Jackson, Iowa. She > >>>died 15 Jun 1921, Collinsville, Madison, IL. > >>>Her father was Justus KRUG. > >>>I believe they immigrated 1847. > >>>Any connection? > >>>Mimi > >> > >> > >>==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > >>The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > >>instructions, list rules and other useful information. > >>Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > >> > >>============================== > >>New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > > > ============================== > > New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. 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I'm not sure what question this was in response to, but my answer would be: Kassel is a small town in Hessen-Darmstadt. Hessen-Nassau didn't exist in 1838, the period being discussed and doesn't exist to-day. Therefore, it proves difficult for someone to locate it easily. I was offering Hessen-Kassel as an alternative to Hasenkassel. I don't believe a town or city called Kassel would be mistakingly written as Hasenkassel. If the original author of the word was referring to a town, it would more likely be written as Kasselhasen. I imagine there are probably a few more Kassel (Cassel) names in Germany so narrowing it to one is a bit misleading without more data. And the two we've mentioned so far are not very close together. For what it's worth. JK Uwe-Karsten Krickhahn wrote: > Hi > > Kassel is a large City in the former province of Hessen Nassau > > Uwe-Karsten Krickhahn > Medicine Hat, Alberta > Canada > www.kartenmeister.com > > Often some of you are looking for familynames in Germany. You have two > possibilties. > > One: It is the German telephone directory under www.dastelefonbuch.de com > and switch to English > > Two: www.kartenmeister.com it will give you the opportunity to enter > a familyname on the mainpage, bottom. If you find anything, it will direct > you to a city, town or villages. Open the hit and browse. You also have the > possibility to enter a village name and look under the email address listed > there to make contact. > > Uwe > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JK" <jkrug@rogers.com> > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [IOWA] Krug > > > >>No connection as yet. It took me 20 years to show a connection to Iowa. >>I've been told there was another family which also moved there of which >>I wasn't aware, so I'll be tracing back through my data for links. >> >>I can't find a town called Hasenkassel and I would think Hessen-Kassel >>would be a better fit. My family is supposed to be from a town in >>Hessen-Darmstadt but there is a town of the same name in Hessen-Kassel. >>I'll be working on both possibilities. >> >>I haven't come across Justus Krug previously that I recall but can't put >>my hands on my early German lists at the moment. I think I put them >>somewhere where they wouldn't get lost. I'll try to locate them later. >> >>I would be interested in any more you may have on the Justuc K family. >> >>I'm building a new Krug web site to connect all the various Krug data >>and try to establish some common links. >> >>The new site is at http://krug.gensites.com >> >>I'm evaluating some genealogy programs this week and next and should be >>ready to go in a couple of weeks. >> >>Some of the programs are at: >>http://krug.gensites.com/ged4/index.php >>http://krug.gensites.com/ged2/index.php >>http://krug.gensites.com/ged1/genealogy.php >> >>I'll be looking for input into the site and maybe we can solve some of >>our brickwalls. >> >>John K >> >>Marrrmar@aol.com wrote: >> >>>I have an Anna Elizabeth KRUG b. 20 Oct 1836 Hasenkassel Germany. >>> Married Henry LINNEMANN 16 Nov 1857, Van Buren, Jackson, Iowa. She >>>died 15 Jun 1921, Collinsville, Madison, IL. >>>Her father was Justus KRUG. >>>I believe they immigrated 1847. >>>Any connection? >>>Mimi >> >> >>==== IOWA Mailing List ==== >>The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub >>instructions, list rules and other useful information. >>Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist >> >>============================== >>New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx > > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx > >

Hi Kassel is a large City in the former province of Hessen Nassau Uwe-Karsten Krickhahn Medicine Hat, Alberta Canada www.kartenmeister.com Often some of you are looking for familynames in Germany. You have two possibilties. One: It is the German telephone directory under www.dastelefonbuch.de com and switch to English Two: www.kartenmeister.com it will give you the opportunity to enter a familyname on the mainpage, bottom. If you find anything, it will direct you to a city, town or villages. Open the hit and browse. You also have the possibility to enter a village name and look under the email address listed there to make contact. Uwe ----- Original Message ----- From: "JK" <jkrug@rogers.com> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [IOWA] Krug > No connection as yet. It took me 20 years to show a connection to Iowa. > I've been told there was another family which also moved there of which > I wasn't aware, so I'll be tracing back through my data for links. > > I can't find a town called Hasenkassel and I would think Hessen-Kassel > would be a better fit. My family is supposed to be from a town in > Hessen-Darmstadt but there is a town of the same name in Hessen-Kassel. > I'll be working on both possibilities. > > I haven't come across Justus Krug previously that I recall but can't put > my hands on my early German lists at the moment. I think I put them > somewhere where they wouldn't get lost. I'll try to locate them later. > > I would be interested in any more you may have on the Justuc K family. > > I'm building a new Krug web site to connect all the various Krug data > and try to establish some common links. > > The new site is at http://krug.gensites.com > > I'm evaluating some genealogy programs this week and next and should be > ready to go in a couple of weeks. > > Some of the programs are at: > http://krug.gensites.com/ged4/index.php > http://krug.gensites.com/ged2/index.php > http://krug.gensites.com/ged1/genealogy.php > > I'll be looking for input into the site and maybe we can solve some of > our brickwalls. > > John K > > Marrrmar@aol.com wrote: > > I have an Anna Elizabeth KRUG b. 20 Oct 1836 Hasenkassel Germany. > > Married Henry LINNEMANN 16 Nov 1857, Van Buren, Jackson, Iowa. She > > died 15 Jun 1921, Collinsville, Madison, IL. > > Her father was Justus KRUG. > > I believe they immigrated 1847. > > Any connection? > > Mimi > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx >

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