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Although one could rent a room only (roomer) or have a room and meals and be a boarder. I'm not sure where the lodger fits in with this. I'd just assumed it was whatever was the local term was for one who rented a room. I wonder if the census takers had specific terms with specific definitions to use for for roomer, lodger and boarder. Along this same line, I also wonder about occupations. There is day laborer, laborer, and farm laborer. It seems like the latter two had regular places of employment and the day laborer worked for whomever needed some one for a few days. This is also just my assumption. Does anyone know if there were enumerators manuals? Have any survived? Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Thompson" <jtwe@netins.net> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [IOWA] Meaning of relation terms on the census > Great question, whoever answers, hope they put it on the list, cause I > would like to know also! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "WILLIAM RUTH" <ruth4374@msn.com> > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 5:41 PM > Subject: [IOWA] Meaning of relation terms on the census > > >>I was wondering if anyone knew what the difference was when someone was >>listed as a >> >> Roomer, Boarder or a Lodger on the census? >> >> Was it just the length of their stay or if they paid for their room? Or >> both? >> >> Or are those just different terms for the same situation? >> >> >> Thanks >> Kathy >> Salem, OR >> >> >> ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== >> The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub >> instructions, list rules and other useful information. >> Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Great question, whoever answers, hope they put it on the list, cause I would like to know also! ----- Original Message ----- From: "WILLIAM RUTH" <ruth4374@msn.com> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: [IOWA] Meaning of relation terms on the census >I was wondering if anyone knew what the difference was when someone was >listed as a > > Roomer, Boarder or a Lodger on the census? > > Was it just the length of their stay or if they paid for their room? Or > both? > > Or are those just different terms for the same situation? > > > Thanks > Kathy > Salem, OR > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Listers, thanks for all your replies and help. The question of this location has been solved....it isn't Belton, IA after all. It is Belmond, Wright Co., IA. I was sent census info that proves the place and my ancestors in it. Thanks again, hope I can return the favor. Janice

This is the response I got from Helen. She looked up the terms in the dictionary I think. Thanks to everyone who responded. Kathy Boarder--one who is supplied with meals Lodger--one who lives in hired quarters in another's house Roomer--a lodger. They are much the same, but I would suspect that a lodger and a roomer had to get their own meals somewhere else and all they had was a room.

I was wondering if anyone knew what the difference was when someone was listed as a Roomer, Boarder or a Lodger on the census? Was it just the length of their stay or if they paid for their room? Or both? Or are those just different terms for the same situation? Thanks Kathy Salem, OR

----- Original Message ----- From: "Claire Grant" <cmgrant2@yahoo.com> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 11:05 AM Subject: [IOWA] What state censuss were taken after the 1870 Federal one?? > > Hello, > > What state census's were taken after the 1870 Federal one?? Claire, There was one for 1885, 1895, 1905, 1915 & 1925. Mark

Here's a web site that may be helpful - _http://www.skcensus.com/census/ia/index.html _Don Woodley RAOGK Volunteer for Bremer, Butler, Floyd and Franklin counties. Researching Ayers/Ayres, Butler, Carpenter, Woodley on one side; Trindle, Cornford & Relf on the other. _ _

You can also check http://iagenweb.org/delaware/census/stateindex.htm for a fairly complete list of Iowa State Census that were done and what counties they covered. Constance -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.12 - Release Date: 1/14/2005

Sometimes special censuses where taken for specific counties. For all counties, check: http://iagenweb.org/census/priority.htm For Fayette County, check: http://iagenweb.org/census/fayette/ Steve --------------- Iowa State Census Coordinator StateCensus@iagenweb.org IAGenWeb - Iowa State Census Project http://iagenweb.org/census Volunteer transcribers needed!

Janice,l on place to look for old towns is www.iowaghosttowns.com Scroll down the first page and you will find a link to a page with every town listed on the site, which covers the whole state of Iowa, with the exception of the "w's" they are not complete yet. Mel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Tague" <dicktague@devtex.net> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 10:05 AM Subject: [IOWA] where is Beldon > > >> Avoid stress Janice, look for the individual, not the locale. In 1880 > Judson >> M. Cox & his father Abner are in Phillips co, Ks. in 1870 they are in >> BELMOND twp, in Wright co. Ia. The town of Belmond is also the post > office >> serving the area. Young Judson was enumerated as 3 y/o Johnson Cox. Dick >> May you live to be a hundred, with an extra year to repent! Irish proverb >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <Jrcinsd2@aol.com> >> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 8:00 AM >> Subject: [IOWA] where is Beldon >> >> >> > I have a Judson Mildon COX b. 1866 in Beldon, IA. I can't find out if > it >> was >> > a city, township, or county in 1866. Can anyone direct me to the right >> > source for researching this location? Any help is greatly appreciated. >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/05 > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hello, What state census�s were taken after the 1870 Federal one?? I am trying to track down a little closer to the time frame that this family separated. We do not know whether or not the father and eldest son went to war or what became of them and the �idiot 2nd son. [[1870 Iowa Fayette Co. Dover Twp. page 55 Roll M593_391]] BRYAN Henry age 44 b. England -Farmer, Value of Real Estate $400 Wife - Mary age 25 b. New York her father was foreign born (Not!!) Children: Thomas age 19 b. England both parents foreign born John age 14 b. England both parents foreign born "Idiot" The column that is written in gives the following options: Deaf & Dumb, Blind, Insane, Idiotic, Pauper or Convict. In the 1880 census, the wife and daughter were back living with her parents. ~Claire Grant Sioux Falls SD Genealogy~ Practice of confusing the dead & irritating the living. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more.

Some locations are given on the IOWA Genweb. Click on Andreas Atlas. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ia/state.htm

Good Afternoon All - Wondering whatever happened to Ethel R. Goodwin, the 10 yr. old daughter of John N. and Martha (Brown) Goodwin after the 1900 IA Benton County census enumeration? I know that the father had passed away about 1897 and that mother and daughter (and a son) were back in Vinton, IA by 1900. I can not find Martha A. Goodwin OR Ethel R. Goodwin after that census anywhere (via Ancestry.com). Ethel would've been 20 y.o. by 1910. Can anyone check to see if there was a marriage recorded in IA to Ethel R. Goodwin, born 1890 in IA? Cathie

Hello All, Is anyone on the list from Cumberland, Cass County, Iowa. I am looking for anyone connected to Spies. Thank you, Cheryl

> Avoid stress Janice, look for the individual, not the locale. In 1880 Judson > M. Cox & his father Abner are in Phillips co, Ks. in 1870 they are in > BELMOND twp, in Wright co. Ia. The town of Belmond is also the post office > serving the area. Young Judson was enumerated as 3 y/o Johnson Cox. Dick > May you live to be a hundred, with an extra year to repent! Irish proverb > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Jrcinsd2@aol.com> > To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 8:00 AM > Subject: [IOWA] where is Beldon > > > > I have a Judson Mildon COX b. 1866 in Beldon, IA. I can't find out if it > was > > a city, township, or county in 1866. Can anyone direct me to the right > > source for researching this location? Any help is greatly appreciated. > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/05

I have a Judson Mildon COX b. 1866 in Beldon, IA. I can't find out if it was a city, township, or county in 1866. Can anyone direct me to the right source for researching this location? Any help is greatly appreciated. thanks, Janice

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Thank you to everyone who tried to help with this particular brick wall. Those of you who sent info on Fayette W. Schenck in Marcus, Stevens, Washington, despite the closeness of the name this is not my family. This Fayette was also present in Marcus in 1910, when my Fayette Schenck & family was in Wenatchee. Donnie, thank you, I will check anywho for Schencks still in Iowa. RC, yes, I believe the cemetery record you found was, indeed, for my Inez E. Schenck. Thank you, this narrows down the time they moved to Washington to a frame of about 2 years. I do have a little more info on them, if it will help anyone. Fayette C. Schenck owned the Burr Oak Hotel (also known as the Masters) for a time around 1900. He also owned the Burr Oak Mercantile (I am assuming this is a General store) & sold it in 1906. Also, Burr Oak held an "Old Settlers Picnic", with some 3 or 400 people in attendance, which was held on Fayette Schenck's property. I believe the year for this was about 1906 as well. If anyone comes across other info for Fayette & Chloe, please forward it to me. It would be very much appreciated. Lana Piche Saskatchewan, Canada

My grandparents came into the USA via Castle Gardens in 1880-1881 from Norway, going directly to Des Moines Iowa, where they lived, raising 9 children. I am still searching for any relatives or descendants from the family of John Andrew Rasmussen and Bertina Lund Rasmussen from Des Moines, Iowa. Bentina had a sister, Mattie Lund Peterson, and a brother, whom I believe was Andrew Lund, or Andrew Peterson. Andrew died in a county home approximately 1940. I would love to have any information on these families. Nancy Brousseau