Gladys, You must have your Carrie's birth date wrong or she didn't marry in the late 1880s. They did marry early but not at six or seven. Her sons birth makes me sure it is her date of birth that is in error. Good hunting. Ginny

NORTHWESTERN IOWA ITS HISTORY AND TRADITION VOLUME III 1804-1926 C. F. Besore, Jr. Calvin F. Besore, Jr., a member of one of the prominent families of Ida county, is engaged in the practice of law at Holstein and possesses all of the attributes of the successful attorney. He was born April 8, 1893, in Ida Grove, Iowa, and is a son of Dr. C. F. and Celia Fibbs Besore, the latter a native of Illinois. The father was born in Michigan and in 1885 came to Iowa, locating in Ida Grove, where he was married in 1891. He is an expert dental surgeon and for thirty-four years has practiced in Ida Grove with much success, rendering valuable service to the residents of that locality. Dr. and Mrs. Besore have a family of four children: Calvin F.; Ruth, the wife of R. C. Sawyer, of Sanborn, Iowa; Philip J., an enterprising young business man of Ida Grove; and Julia, who married Gilbert Brown, of Waterloo, Iowa. Calvin F. Besore, Jr., was reared in his native town and after his graduation from high school was a student at Morningside College for a year. He attended the University of Iowa for three years and studied for a year in the office of Attorney C. G. Burling of Clarksville, Iowa. Mr. Besore was superintendent of schools at Clarksville, Iowa, for a year and then accepted a similar position in New Hartford, Iowa, where he also spent twelve months. For one summer he was engaged in Chautauqua work, being a member of the Imperial Male Quartette. In 1920 he came to Holstein, where he has since made his home. He is now a member of the well known law firm of Besore & Snell Brothers and also acts as city attorney. He is thorough and painstaking in the preparation of his cases, and his legal learning, his analytical mind and the readiness with which he grasps the salient points in an argument all combine to make him one of the most capable lawyers of this locality. In 1918 Mr. Besore united in marriage to Miss Hope C. Sutton, a native of O debolt, Iowa, and a daughter of Charles W. and Lucinda Sutton. The former, one of the pioneer hardware merchants of Odebolt, Iowa, is deceased, and Mrs. Sutton is now living at Wall Lake, Iowa. Mr. Besore belongs to the Phi Delta Phi and Acacia fraternities and while attending the State University was venerable dean of Acacia fraternity for one year. He is identified with the Holstein Commercial Club and has served as its president. He is a Mason, belonging to Alpine Lodge, No. 471, F. & A. M.; Cyria Chapter, No. 194, R. A. M., and Mizpah Commandery, No. 62, K. T., and is also connected with the Eastern Star. Mr. Besore owns a fine home in Holstein and has thoroughly identified his interests with those of the community, in which he is highly esteemed because of his public spirit, his devotion to duty and his strength of character. Debbie Clough Gerischer

NORTHWESTERN IOWA ITS HISTORY AND TRADITION VOLUME III 1804-1926 J. A. Berg Progress and improvement may well be said to have formed the keynote to the character of John A. Berg, who was a well-known merchant of Ruthven and one of Palo Alto county's representative citizens. Though devoted to the advancement of his own interests, he endeavored in straightforward manner to perform the duties of progressive citizenship, his support being always depended upon in the furtherance of any laudable movement for public betterment. Thus his worth as a man and citizen was realized and his death, which occurred September 26, 1928, was the occasion of widespread regret. Mr. Berg was born in Norway on the 18th of November, 1863, son of Andrew and Christina (Stokke) Berg, both of whom were lifelong residents of that country, but are now deceased. The father was a stonecutter by trade. John A. Berg attended the public schools of Norway and then took a high school course at a private school. In March, 1883, when in his twentieth year, he came to the United States, and joined an uncle in Webster county, Iowa, near Fort Dodge. The uncle was a farmer, but Mr. Berg did not care for that line of work and during the first summer he ran a cream wagon, while during the winter he attended school. In the following year he drove a delivery wagon for a grocery store in Fort Dodge and later secured a position as clerk in a shoe store in that city. In 1892 he established a mercantile business in Callender, Iowa, but in 1895 sold out there and, in January, 1896, he came to Ruthven, Palo Alto county, where, in partnership with E. L. Furlong, he bought out the business of J. E. Mulroney & Company, which they conducted under the firm name of Furlong & Berg. Later Mr. Berg bought his partner's interest and carried the business on under his own name until his demise. By close and intelligent attention to his trade, he won a large and representative patronage, the community thus expressing its appreciation of his square dealing, his courtesy and his excellent service. In 1894 Mr. Berg was united in marriage to Miss Christina Haatvedt, a native of Webster county, Iowa, and to them were born eight children: Arthur E., who was graduated in electrical engineering at the Iowa State College in 1920, is a veteran of the World war. He was sent to the artillery officers' training school at St. Louis, where he was commissioned a second lieutenant of field artillery, but the Armistice was signed before he received orders to go overseas. He is now associated with the General Electric Company at Chicago, Illinois. Lucille H., who graduated from the University of Wisconsin in 1918, is now teaching in a private school of music in Chicago. Olga E., who attended the University of Wisconsin and graduated from Drake University in 1924, is a teacher of music in the public schools of Waukon, Iowa. Kathleen, who is a graduate of Iowa State College, is a teacher in the consolidated schools at Luana, Iowa. John H. is assisting in the store. Cyril N. is a student in Iowa State University. Harold is also in the State University. Robert Q., in the grade school, completes the family. Politically Mr. Berg was a republican and in 1920 was his party's candidate for the legislature, but was defeated by a narrow margin. He was a member of Highland Lodge, No. 487, A. F. and A. M.; Clay Chapter, No. 112, R. A M.; Sioux City Consistory, No. 5, A. A. S. R.; and Za-Ga-Zig Temple, A. A. O. N. M. S., of Des Moines. He was actively and effectively interested in local public affairs, having served as a member of the school board for fifteen years, with one short interval, while he was also a member of the town council two terms. He was vice-president and a director of the First National Bank of Ruthven. He belonged to the Lutheran church, to which he gave liberal support. His career was characterized by duty faithfully performed in all the relations of life and because of this, and his generous and kindly nature, he long enjoyed the good will and esteem of all who knew him. Debbie Clough Gerischer

Here is a link to collections located in various Iowa county libraries. It is a PDF file of 106 pages. You may want to pick and choose which pages you print. http://www.iowahistory.org/library/local_history/local_history_roundtable_list.PDF Thank you Don for all the leads you have listed that have helped me. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 2/18/05

NORTHWESTERN IOWA ITS HISTORY AND TRADITION VOLUME III 1804-1926 A. B. Bell In the death of the honored subject of this memoir, which occurred August 9, 1921, at his home in Ida Grove, Ida county, there passed away a man who for forty years had been closely identified with that locality, being numbered among its successful agriculturists and public-spirited citizens. The story of his success is not long nor does it contain many exciting chapters, but it is replete with a record of duty faithfully performed under all circumstances and of the application of sound judgment in all of his affairs - the story of a noble life, consistent with itself and its possibilities in every direction. Alvin B. Bell was a native of Indiana and was born on the 20th of February, 1848, a son of Enoch B. and Sarah (Handley) Bell. His parents were natives of Ohio, where they were reared and married, and in 1847 they went to Indiana, where the father engaged in farming. In that state they spent the remaining years of their lives, both being deceased. They became the parents of four children, of which number two are living. Alvin B. Bell was reared on the home farm in Indiana and received his education in the public schools. In 1880 he came to Iowa and located in Ida county, where he bought land, in the operation of which he was eminently successful, creating a fine and valuable farmstead. As he prospered he bought additional acreage until eventually he became the owner of a thousand acres of good Iowa land. He made many valuable improvements on his tract, on which he lived for a number of years, and then moved into Ida Grove, where he resided up to the time of his death. On April 9, 1871, Mr. Bell was united in marriage to Miss Sabina E. Brandenburg. Her parents were natives of Ohio, where they were reared and married, and later moved to Indiana, in which state they passed away. They had five children, of which number two are living. To Mr. and Mrs. Bell were born two children: Verlin O., born February 25, 1872, and now living in Nebraska; and Welby L., deceased. Mrs. Bell has also a granddaughter, Miss Ruth H. Bell. Mrs. Bell is a member of the Church of God at Ida Grove, in the work of which she takes a deep interest. She is still the owner of five hundred acres of valuable and well improved land and two good residences in Ida Grove, and gives her personal attention to the management of her estate. Her gracious qualities have endeared her to a large circle of friends throughout this community. Mr. Bell was a man of great initiative and ability, who did well whatever he undertook, and among his fellowmen bore an enviable reputation because of his sound business judgment, progressive methods and public spirit. Debbie Clough Gerischer

Need some help... I have let my Genealogy and Ancestry accounts expire. I remember coming across my Great Great Aunt Caroline Davis listed as Carrie Davis. She always went by the nick name of Carrie as Caroline was also her mother's name. I would like to contact the person that is responsible for inputing her data as Carrie Davis either on Genealogy or Ancestory. They might have additional information on our family.... Caroline's (Carrie) father was Rosser Davis and her mother Caroline Phillips Davis both from Wales. Caroline (Carrie), was the last of the children, Born April 12, 1881 in Ohio and migrated with the family to Iowa in the mid to late 1880's. She married Edward A. Farnsworth had 2 sons of which one son survived; Samuel Farnsworth. Samuel Farnsworth was a Doctor of Medicine and practiced medicine in La Porte, Indiana. He died in the 1960's or 1970's His wife's name was Lynn. Two sons David and Jerry. I believe that Caroline (Carrie) Davis Farnsworth died in Indiana sometime after WWII or into the 1950's. Gladys E-mail: gmb@twin-valley.net

Dee - Columbia was a woman. I'll send you the 1900 census sheet. By the date of that enumeration, her husband was already dead, and she is listed as a widow, with the children. If the LDS information was submitted by a person [as in this case] and not from a film of vital records, then you can't assume it is correct. I can't help with the obituary, but contact the Omaha library to see what newspapers were published around that time. Also, see if there was an Italian language newspaper in Omaha, because if they didn't speak english, that's where you might find it. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "deehall" <kraftdee@netins.net> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:01 AM Subject: [IOWA] info > ON one of my researches that I'm doing I have a puzzle. On the lds site Columbia Cleania is listed as a male, and on an obit that I have for Columbia it is listed as a Female, and her spouse is Ludwig {Lewis Celania].Sept. 9, 1905.She is listed as Benedicta . > On all the other material it is listed as a Female. On ancestry it listed as Columbia Lewis Celania. > Could she of took her spouses first name after he died? > > They came from Italy. He died in Omaha NE. Could use some help to find his obit. Before 1905. > > Thanks, > Dee >

ON one of my researches that I'm doing I have a puzzle. On the lds site Columbia Cleania is listed as a male, and on an obit that I have for Columbia it is listed as a Female, and her spouse is Ludwig {Lewis Celania].Sept. 9, 1905.She is listed as Benedicta . On all the other material it is listed as a Female. On ancestry it listed as Columbia Lewis Celania. Could she of took her spouses first name after he died? They came from Italy. He died in Omaha NE. Could use some help to find his obit. Before 1905. Thanks, Dee

NORTHWESTERN IOWA ITS HISTORY AND TRADITION VOLUME III 1804-1926 W. A. Beaver William Alline Beaver, a member of one of the old and honored families of Ida county, is well known in business circles of Ida Grove and has also figured prominently in civic affairs. He was born January 22, 1869, in Allamakee county, Iowa, and his parents were William Franklin and Alline (Craft) Beaver, the former a blacksmith and wagon maker. The father was a Virginian and was born in 1832. He reached the advanced age of ninety years, passing away January 21, 1922. The mother's demise occurred in August, 1919. In their family were three children: Minnie, who is deceased; William A.; and Belle, the wife of William Klass, of Omaha, Nebraska. In 1876, when William A. Beaver was a boy of seven, the family settled in Ida county, Iowa, and his education was received in its public schools. When twelve years of age he gained his first knowledge of the blacksmith's trade, which he has since followed as a means of livelihood. He has developed the skill which results from years of experience and concentrated effort and conducts a large business, drawing his patronage from Ida Grove and the surrounding district. On May 13, 1890, Mr. Beaver married Miss Maud W. Shade, a native of Cedar county, Iowa, and the children of this union are: Victor William; and Freda, the wife of Stanley J. Mead, of Ida Grove. Mr. Beaver was called to public office in April, 1901, becoming city treasurer, and acted in that capacity for four years. He proved a faithful custodian of the public funds and subsequently became a candidate for mayor. Each applicant for the position received the same number of votes and the council decided in favor of Mr. Beaver's opponent. He is a Presbyterian in religious faith, and along fraternal lines he is connected with the Masonic order and the Modern Woodmen of American. His life from an early age has been one of unceasing industry and his prosperity is well deserved. Debbie Clough Gerischer

Lisa, The same happened in Shelby and Crawford counties with the naturalization records. The recorders office rescued them and put them in there department. Hopefully, these old records will never be disposed of and given to genealogy departments that will take care of them. Phyllis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Lepore" <llepore@comcast.net> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [IOWA] Vital Records > Do you really mean vital records - birth, marriage and death? > > State law determines how they must be kept, and for how long, > but I think they have to keep them forever, unless they are > duplicates? > I don't think they can just get rid of them LOL > > If this is actually happening right now, you need to contact your > state senator or state representative and find out what > agency has authority over these records, and what the law > actually is. > > However, I did learn that the naturalization records in Dubuque > were about to be disposed of. They were transferred to the > National Mississippi River Museum and Aquarium. I think > the The Dubuque County Historical Society library is there. > > Lisa > > >

Do you really mean vital records - birth, marriage and death? State law determines how they must be kept, and for how long, but I think they have to keep them forever, unless they are duplicates? I don't think they can just get rid of them LOL If this is actually happening right now, you need to contact your state senator or state representative and find out what agency has authority over these records, and what the law actually is. However, I did learn that the naturalization records in Dubuque were about to be disposed of. They were transferred to the National Mississippi River Museum and Aquarium. I think the The Dubuque County Historical Society library is there. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "mckorgram" <mckorgram@mebbs.com> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:02 PM Subject: [IOWA] Vital Records > Does anyone happen to know what courthouses can legally do with old vital records that they no longer want to keep? > >

Check out _http://www.iagenweb.org/state/places/h.htm_ There are three Hardins & one Hardin City, but no Hardings. Don Woodley RAOGK Volunteer for Bremer, Butler, Floyd and Franklin counties. Researching Ayers/Ayres, Butler, Carpenter, Woodley on one side; Trindle, Cornford & Relf on the other.

My experience in the counties that I work in is that they have kept the records (I think that they are required to do this), but they may have been preserved only on micro-film or micro-fiche. The old books might have been destroyed, given away, turned over to the local genealogical or historical society or whatever. Some counties still have the original books, some have entered the data in a database and have created printouts of the indexes, ... many "creative" ways have been found. All five counties that I frequent (Bremer, Butler, Chickasaw, Floyd and Franklin) still have their books in the Recorder's Office and they are all open to public access. There apparently is no standard way that has to be followed. Don Woodley RAOGK Volunteer for Bremer, Butler, Floyd and Franklin counties. Researching Ayers/Ayres, Butler, Carpenter, Woodley on one side; Trindle, Cornford & Relf on the other.

Shirley, I have Martin V. Tharp in my database, I would be happy to send you a genealogy report I have on them. I think I may even have their gravestone pictures. Write me privately and I'll be happy to send you the report. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Workman" <srwork@adelphia.net> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:47 PM Subject: [IOWA] Fw: Tharps > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Shirley Workman > To: Iowa-l@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:35 AM > Subject: Tharps > > > Hello Iowa, > > My great grandparents, Martin V. and Sarah Amy (Collicott/Callicott) > Tharp lived in Benton Co.,Iowa from abt. 1860 until their deaths. I need > their dates of death to obtain their death certificates. Martin V. died > abt. 1900. Sarah Amy was alive in May, 1930. > She was 94 and was living with her daughter Minnie Weddle. Any > information is appreciated. > > Thank you, > Shirley srwork@adelphia.net > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 2/18/2005 11:42:06 AM Central Standard Time, barbgeni@cox.net writes: A lot of home births were slow to inform officials. I had a great aunt who registered only one of her 6 kids born in Iowa (b. 1893-1901) and that was because that child died at birth. She registered another late when he evidently wanted to enter the military. At least that was the age at which he was registered. The rest all registered their own births as adults. Since the family immigrated to Saskatchewan in 1903 before the birth of the last child, that could not have been easy. One, a trucker, registered his birth in middle age, giving as proofs his trucker's licence, his marriage certificate and the "very old" family bible. So never forget to check the delayed birth entries. Annie in Minnesota

----- Original Message ----- From: Shirley Workman To: Iowa-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:35 AM Subject: Tharps Hello Iowa, My great grandparents, Martin V. and Sarah Amy (Collicott/Callicott) Tharp lived in Benton Co.,Iowa from abt. 1860 until their deaths. I need their dates of death to obtain their death certificates. Martin V. died abt. 1900. Sarah Amy was alive in May, 1930. She was 94 and was living with her daughter Minnie Weddle. Any information is appreciated. Thank you, Shirley srwork@adelphia.net

For whatever this is worth, the cemetery records for Obrien Co: STANLEY, Harriet M. 1822 - 2-12-1901, Pleasant Hill Cem, Primghar (Mrs.Horatio) STANLEY, Horatio 6-26-1821 - 11-9-1913, Pleasant Hill Cem, Primghar, bk 26, lot 2 RC

The 1856 state census for James Humphries, Decatur co, says location, Harding, Hamilton township. Was there a town named Harding at that time? I can't find it in today's atlas. Thelma of Colorado

Does anyone happen to know what courthouses can legally do with old vital records that they no longer want to keep?

Harding in 1895 was in Polk Co., Iowa. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Thelma Feese" <tfeese@juno.com> To: <IOWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: [IOWA] Decatur County, Hamilton twp > The 1856 state census for James Humphries, Decatur co, says location, > Harding, Hamilton township. Was there a town named Harding at that time? > I can't find it in today's atlas. > Thelma of Colorado > > > ==== IOWA Mailing List ==== > The IOWA Lists now have their own website with unsub > instructions, list rules and other useful information. > Visit & Bookmark http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard/ialist > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >