On 3/24/2011 9:51 AM, Karen Phillips wrote: > Hello: > > > > I am wondering if anyone has access to a Marriage Index in Switzerland Co.? > > > > I am looking for the marriage of Grace Turner - daughter of John Thomas > Turner and Elizabeth Manuel. > > > > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! > > > > Karen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INSWITZE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > "Switzerland County, Indiana Marriage Records 1831-1885" by Knox-Slevin does not list Grace Turner in the list of brides.

Ancestry.coms marriage record database for Indiana gives the date below. Good thing you had both names because it's one of the counties that you can't search for specifically although the county name is display on the results. 4 Dec 1873 -----Original Message----- From: Karen Phillips <kphill2906@aol.com> To: inswitze <inswitze@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 9:54 am Subject: [INSWITZE] Switzerland Co. Marriage (Grace Turner) about 1895-1910? Hello: I am wondering if anyone has access to a Marriage Index in Switzerland Co.? I am looking for the marriage of Grace Turner - daughter of John Thomas Turner and Elizabeth Manuel. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! Karen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INSWITZE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello: I am wondering if anyone has access to a Marriage Index in Switzerland Co.? I am looking for the marriage of Grace Turner - daughter of John Thomas Turner and Elizabeth Manuel. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! Karen

Thanks to everyone for their input on John Bray! Karen

There is a project in Switzerland County to update cemetery photo's. Contact the Switzerland County Historical Society at _http://www.switzcomuseums.org/_ (http://www.switzcomuseums.org/) I believe they would know who is working on this. Sheila Kell

>From Switzerland County, IN history that is online at http://www.ingenweb.org/inswitzerland/craigtownship.html it has the following: Daniel, or David, Bray was also among the first settlers of Craig Township. The first election of justices, after the organization of the county, was held at his house in 1817. The village of Braytown was named in his honor, though it never throve. There is also cemetery listings and the Mckay cemetery has Brays, no pictures though. I don't know if anyone is taking pictures of headstones in Switzerland Co., but it would be nice if they did and posted them. Someone is doing that for cemeteries in NYS in Fulton Co. I know this isn't much help, but doing some googling or other research on the Internet can bring surprising results. Good luck Sandi On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 4:53 PM, <KPhill2906@aol.com> wrote: > Hello: > > I am wondering if anyone can tell me if Braytown was named after the > Revolutionary War soldier John Bray that is buried in the McKay Cemetery? > > Does anyone have a photo of his marker?  Wanda Morford read the marker  in > 1980. > > " > read by Wanda Morford in 1980 as follows  -  John Sr.,  d. Jun. 10, 1832 > aged  71 y 4 m 12  d)". > > Hope to hear from someone! > > Karen > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INSWITZE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello: I am wondering if anyone can tell me if Braytown was named after the Revolutionary War soldier John Bray that is buried in the McKay Cemetery? Does anyone have a photo of his marker? Wanda Morford read the marker in 1980. " read by Wanda Morford in 1980 as follows - John Sr., d. Jun. 10, 1832 aged 71 y 4 m 12 d)". Hope to hear from someone! Karen

I have a Mary Coy b. 1803, Garrard County, Kentucky, listed as the dau of William Coy and Mary Ann Dennis. 18 Sept 1732 William Coy filed for his Rev. War Pension: Microfilm Series: M805 Roll: 226 Image: 76 File: S31614 Page: 2 of 10. He received a pension # S31614. It's been a while since I worked with this line but if I recall correctly his children are named in his application for pension. If you are not a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution you, as I'm sure you know, are eligible to join. If you would like to contact me directly my e-mail is res8s537@verizon.net Bev

I am trying to find out who Mary Coy's parents were. She married Thomas J. Crail (b. 1811 KY) probably sometime between 1828 and 1838. Thomas migrated from Kentucky with his father James B. Crail to Shelby Co. Indiana, where Thomas patented land, and then Bartholomew Co. Indiana. His father James also lived in Shelby Co. and Bartholomew Co. Indiana, but also in Brown Co. Indiana for a period of time before living in Bartholomew Co. Indiana again. Thomas and Mary's daughters were Sarah Ann Crail (b. abt. 1838) and Hannah J. Crail (b. 1840; d. 1919). Sarah died before death records were kept, but Hannah's 1919 death certificate lists Mary Coy as her mother. I do not know what happened to Mary, but Thomas J. Crail remarried in 1845 in Rush Co. Indiana to wife 2 Catherine Lock, and they have Sarah and Hannah in their household in the 1850 Bartholomew Co. Indiana federal census. Does anyone have any information on William Coy's daughter Mary, listed as number 10 in the post on the website below: http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?mv=flat <http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=1797&p=localities.northam. usa.states.indiana.counties.switzerland> &m=1797&p=localities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.switzerland Descendants of William may also have had a daughter named Mary who was born in enough time to have married and had a daughter by 1838. From what I've read online, William also had a brother named Christopher. There are a James B. Crail and Thomas J. (Jefferson) Crail in Hamilton Co. Ohio, where according to a book online, James B. Crail helped start a church during a time period that my James B. Crail was in Shelby Co. Indiana. (Both Thomas J. Crail and James B. Crail are listed in the 1840 Shelby Co. Indiana federal census.) So far the only marriage for Thomas J. Crail that I can find that fits the time frame is to a Mary Magdalena in 1836 in Hamilton Co. Ohio, but as mentioned before, my Thomas J. Crail married Mary Coy. There is nothing on her marriage certificate to indicate that she was married before. It looks like this marriage may have fallen apart as later I find this Mary in the household of the person who married her to Thomas. Lee Anne

Hello, I'm new to the list & wish to post my surnames of interest: In 1850, Isaac H. Phillips married Hannah L. Harris in Switzerland Co. Their dau, Kate E. Phillips, b 1851, married a Dr. Henry J. B. Wright, who was born in Rush Co. IN (1851) & whose father, Ephraim Wright, was a M-E minister. Kate & Dr. Henry Wright eventually moved to Richland Co. IL where he was the attending physician to Alexander Schuyler Harris & wife, Henrietta (Harris) Harris. This couple had moved to IL from Albemarle Co. VA & Buckingham Co. VA & were 1st cousins. I believe that Hannah (Harris) Phillips & the VA-IL Harris couple were closely related & there is a close connection to the Wright family, also out of VA. I'm trying to find the parents of Hannah L. Harris who married Isaac H. Phillips. Thank you, Diane Ethridge Conroe, TX

In the Patriot Cemetery, Posey Township, Switzerland County, IN There is a Mary Noble, wife of Charles Dec 26,1826 - June 5, 1848 Does anyone have any info on this Mary Noble? I do not know her Maiden name or date of marriage to Charles. I am wondering if she could be a first wife of my Charles P. Noble., who marries Annis Albro in 1850 at 26 years of his age. Are there still any Burial Records of this Patriot Cemetery?? lnoble30@comcast.net    Larry Noble Naples, FL RAOGK Volunteer lnoble30@comcast.net

Hello: I am hoping to find someone that can me locate information on Richard N. Smith (b. about 1861) in Kentucky.? I have located hiim on the 1900-1920 censu.? He was a Justice of the Peace in 1910 and and Assistant Postmaster in 1920. I believe he could be the son of Robert N. Smith and Rhoda E. Orcutt.? I don't have much on them except the 1870-1880 census records. Who were these Smith's?? Who was the wife of Richard N. and where did they "end up". Hope to hear from someone. Karen

What exactly are you looking for? I found them on the Switzerland County Census in 1850 Calvin 29 Jane 28 Eliza 8 Simeon 5 Thernsberry 3 Silas 1 in Cotton Township. On the 1860 Census of Indiana I think I found the same family in Jackson, Bartholomew County Calvin 40 June 39 (probably Jane) Eliza 18 Auniore 16 (probably Simeon-male) Olive 9 Eveline 6 Marion 4 Melissa 1 Does this help or do you already have this? Maybe I could help further even though they are not connected to my Fox line from Cotton Township. Charles Price ----- Original Message ----- From: "Smith" <cdt1@att.net> To: <INSWITZE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:18 PM Subject: [INSWITZE] Simeon Richards Looking for Simeon Richards born October 11 th.1843. His parents were Calvin Richards and Jane Althiser both born about 1821/22. Thank You Tim Smith ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INSWITZE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

   Looking for Simeon Richards born October 11 th.1843. His parents were Calvin Richards and Jane Althiser both born about 1821/22. Thank You Tim Smith

I had contributed (several years ago) information on the Malin, Dalmazzo, Mendenhall, Johnson families - is that still available on the site or do I need to resend it? I would presume that information contributed to the web site to be used for all would continue to be available. Thank you for all your work. -------------- Original message from KFurBallKell@aol.com: -------------- > > To all concerned; > > I hope I can answer some of your questions and concerns. As Bob Scott > said he did refuse to allow me to use any of his information for the new sites > and for the reason he cited. He does not believe in the GenWeb concept. > > Long before I became a County Coordinator, I was a user of the GenWeb > system, and my feeling about its value are obviously different than his. > > As to why the information on the old site has disappeared, believe me by > no choice of my own. I deliberately linked to what was up for the old sites > as long as it was there and I hope the Hoggatts will choose to put it back for > us all to use. There are rules for Gen Web Coordinators, some of those rules > include, fixing broken links, updating on a regular basis (if for some > reason you cannot do your updates you only have to notify the State Coordinator > and help will be given help to add the all things people send in). I feel the > Hoggatts Jefferson & Switzerland County sites were excellent and I used them > frequently. Yes, I would like to have seen updates but more important to me > was the information they had there for all of us to use. The Hoggatts have > chosen to block their sites, GenWeb or I had nothing to do with that choice. > > I needed two more sites like I need another hole in my head. I know for > at least the nearly two years I have been Coordinator for Jennings County the > State Coordinator had been asking for the Hoggatts to do the maintenance > required. I e mailed Ruth and offered to help in any way I could. The response > was nothing happened. A difficult decision was made by the State Coordinator to > de link the sites from GenWeb because of this non compliance. I had some > choices to make. I love Southern Indiana, my family roots are there, I intend > to retire there. I live in Indianapolis because I have to work because I have > to support my mother and myself. I was offered the sites and because I want > them to be active and informative I took on the challenge. I am not an author, > or a Genealogist. I love family history, Southern Indiana and trying to help > others when I can. I make many research trips a year to the area and take > photographs of old documents which I then transcribe and will add to sites as I > have done in Jennings County. > > I pains me that this has happened, but I personally do not believe in > copyrighting information as has been done on many sites. These people are just > not my family, what each of us have found in doing research may be just the > thing someone else needs to discover theirs. That is what interests me, I was > adopted as an infant and did not discover it until I was in my 30's so finding > ones Roots has many meanings for me. It is fun, challenging and something I > will continue to do as long as I can. Nothing on a site I am connected with > is copyrighted because neither the site or the information on it is "mine" it > is ours, all of us who search and hope to find. > > Here is a quote I have on the main page of the Jennings Site and it pretty > well explains how I feel. Contributing to the Jefferson & Switzerland County > sites is your choice, of course I would love to have anything you are > willing to share but the key word here is share, not keep and refuse to share if > things do not go the way you think they should. > > Thank You and Please read the following; > > Sheila Kell > County Coordinator > Jennings, Jefferson & Switzerland Counties INGenWeb > > > "The Chosen" > We are the chosen. In each family there is one who seems called to find the > ancestors. To put flesh on their bones and make them live again. To tell the > family story and to feel that somehow they know and approve. Doing genealogy > is not a cold gathering of facts but, instead, breathing life into all who > have gone before. We are the story tellers of the tribe. All tribes have one. > We have been called, as it were, by our genes. Those who have gone before cry > out to us: Tell our story. So, we do. In finding them, we somehow find > ourselves. How many graves have I stood before now and cried? I have lost > count. > How many times have I told the ancestors, "You have a wonderful family; you > would be proud of us.". How many times have I walked up to a grave and felt > somehow there was love there for me? I cannot say. It goes beyond just > documenting facts. It goes to who I am, and why I do the things I do. It goes to > seeing > a cemetery about to be lost forever to weeds and indifference and saying - I > can't let this happen. The bones here are bones of my bone and flesh of my > flesh. It goes to doing something about it. It goes to pride in what our > ancestors were able to accomplish. How they contributed to what we are today. It > goes to respecting their hardships and losses, their never giving in or giving > up, their resoluteness to go on and build a life for their family. It goes to > deep pride that the fathers fought and some died to make and keep us a > nation. It goes to a deep and immense understanding that they were doing it for > us. It is of equal pride and love that our mothers struggled to give us birth, > without them we could not exist, and so we love each one, as far back as we > can reach. That we might be born who we are. That we might remember them. So > we do. With love and caring and scribing each fact of their existence, because > we are they and they are the sum of who we are. So, as a scribe called, I > tell the story of my family. It is up to that one called in the next generation > to answer the call and take my place in the long line of family > storytellers. That is why I do my family genealogy, and that is what calls > those young > and old to step up and restore the memory or greet those who we had never known > before." > by Della M. Cummings Wright; Rewritten by her granddaughter Dell Jo Ann > McGinnis Johnson; Edited and Reworded by Tom Dunn, 1943." > > > > **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. 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To all I posted my explanation about vanished content because I think? the people who have visited these two sites should know what happened to the content? and why it will not be available on GenWeb.. A great deal of the content was mine (on Jefferson County), probably too much as many people came to think it was my site and I received many requests for posting information or changes that was not within my ability to do. I felt I owed them an explanation. Actually, I think Sheila has done quite a good job with the Jennings County GenWeb Site and should be complimented on it.? It's a big improvement over the last time I visited it. There is a substantial increase in content of value local researchers. It's certainly quality work in the same way Ruth's was. I have no personal quarrel with Ruth or? Sheila. Ruth did a fabulous job and a lot of work and Sheila seems to be cut from the same mold.. As to promotion, I've seen all sorts of history oriented information made available on lists and I've been grateful when someone was able to point me to a resource that might prove useful. One of my points is that GenWeb faces the kind of competition from other resources that I face everyday in my job. Once, I would have submitted many of the articles on the blogs to a GenWeb site, particularly. Now, I don't have to and I don't view GenWeb sites as competition because they are more family history oriented. Bob

In the last year, I have taken historical articles I might have once contributed to a GenWeb site and began posting them in one of three blogs. I am using this tool largely because I have much more control over this--I can post when I want and change or delete when I want. I try to post to each of these at least once a month. None of these are genealogy blogs and right now, I don't have any plans for any of that kind. For anybody with an interest in publishing that you might not be able to afford to put in print--blogger represents a great way to engage in what I call ad hoc publishing. It's big limitation is that articles are organized solely by the date of filing and that can't be changed. I hope that will change somebody because these are essential bare-bones Web sites, which is all most of us need There are three: Jefferson County. These are features that I write based on my own research. These are simply things I find interesting. Some are about important events or people in Jefferson County and Madison history. Some, like the one I just posted called "A Band of Gypsies" are things that piqued my interest. I started this because I have a lot of information in the History of Jefferson County I am writing that doesn't really fit in the book and won't otherwise find a home. http://jeffersoncountyindiana.blogspot.com/ First Hand. These are (as nearly as possible) accounts from people about history in Jefferson County who experienced what they wrote about fairly soon after visiting the area or soon after the event they wrote about. For example, a recent post is the the report of Col. Sam Sering who commanded the Jefferson County. (The URL is firsthandmadison because firsthand.blogspot.com was taken. http://firsthandmadison.blogspot.com/ Switzerland County. Those combines narratives that I write with First Hand info. I simply don't have the time to write separate original works and maintain a first hand site for Switzerland County, but have enough to post on a fairly regular basis. http://switzerlandcounty.blogspot.com/ Bob

Sheila, Well said. Thanks for your comments. Ed Hill -----Original Message----- From: KFurBallKell@aol.com [mailto:KFurBallKell@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:00 PM To: inswitze@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [INSWITZE] Jefferson and Switzerland County GenWeb sites To all concerned; I hope I can answer some of your questions and concerns. As Bob Scott said he did refuse to allow me to use any of his information for the new sites and for the reason he cited. He does not believe in the GenWeb concept. Long before I became a County Coordinator, I was a user of the GenWeb system, and my feeling about its value are obviously different than his. As to why the information on the old site has disappeared, believe me by no choice of my own. I deliberately linked to what was up for the old sites as long as it was there and I hope the Hoggatts will choose to put it back for us all to use. There are rules for Gen Web Coordinators, some of those rules include, fixing broken links, updating on a regular basis (if for some reason you cannot do your updates you only have to notify the State Coordinator and help will be given help to add the all things people send in). I feel the Hoggatts Jefferson & Switzerland County sites were excellent and I used them frequently. Yes, I would like to have seen updates but more important to me was the information they had there for all of us to use. The Hoggatts have chosen to block their sites, GenWeb or I had nothing to do with that choice. I needed two more sites like I need another hole in my head. I know for at least the nearly two years I have been Coordinator for Jennings County the State Coordinator had been asking for the Hoggatts to do the maintenance required. I e mailed Ruth and offered to help in any way I could. The response was nothing happened. A difficult decision was made by the State Coordinator to de link the sites from GenWeb because of this non compliance. I had some choices to make. I love Southern Indiana, my family roots are there, I intend to retire there. I live in Indianapolis because I have to work because I have to support my mother and myself. I was offered the sites and because I want them to be active and informative I took on the challenge. I am not an author, or a Genealogist. I love family history, Southern Indiana and trying to help others when I can. I make many research trips a year to the area and take photographs of old documents which I then transcribe and will add to sites as I have done in Jennings County. I pains me that this has happened, but I personally do not believe in copyrighting information as has been done on many sites. These people are just not my family, what each of us have found in doing research may be just the thing someone else needs to discover theirs. That is what interests me, I was adopted as an infant and did not discover it until I was in my 30's so finding ones Roots has many meanings for me. It is fun, challenging and something I will continue to do as long as I can. Nothing on a site I am connected with is copyrighted because neither the site or the information on it is "mine" it is ours, all of us who search and hope to find. Here is a quote I have on the main page of the Jennings Site and it pretty well explains how I feel. Contributing to the Jefferson & Switzerland County sites is your choice, of course I would love to have anything you are willing to share but the key word here is share, not keep and refuse to share if things do not go the way you think they should. Thank You and Please read the following; Sheila Kell County Coordinator Jennings, Jefferson & Switzerland Counties INGenWeb "The Chosen" We are the chosen. In each family there is one who seems called to find the ancestors. To put flesh on their bones and make them live again. To tell the family story and to feel that somehow they know and approve. Doing genealogy is not a cold gathering of facts but, instead, breathing life into all who have gone before. We are the story tellers of the tribe. All tribes have one. We have been called, as it were, by our genes. Those who have gone before cry out to us: Tell our story. So, we do. In finding them, we somehow find ourselves. How many graves have I stood before now and cried? I have lost count. How many times have I told the ancestors, "You have a wonderful family; you would be proud of us.". How many times have I walked up to a grave and felt somehow there was love there for me? I cannot say. It goes beyond just documenting facts. It goes to who I am, and why I do the things I do. It goes to seeing a cemetery about to be lost forever to weeds and indifference and saying - I can't let this happen. The bones here are bones of my bone and flesh of my flesh. It goes to doing something about it. It goes to pride in what our ancestors were able to accomplish. How they contributed to what we are today. It goes to respecting their hardships and losses, their never giving in or giving up, their resoluteness to go on and build a life for their family. It goes to deep pride that the fathers fought and some died to make and keep us a nation. It goes to a deep and immense understanding that they were doing it for us. It is of equal pride and love that our mothers struggled to give us birth, without them we could not exist, and so we love each one, as far back as we can reach. That we might be born who we are. That we might remember them. So we do. With love and caring and scribing each fact of their existence, because we are they and they are the sum of who we are. So, as a scribe called, I tell the story of my family. It is up to that one called in the next generation to answer the call and take my place in the long line of family storytellers. That is why I do my family genealogy, and that is what calls those young and old to step up and restore the memory or greet those who we had never known before." by Della M. Cummings Wright; Rewritten by her granddaughter Dell Jo Ann McGinnis Johnson; Edited and Reworded by Tom Dunn, 1943." **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INSWITZE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pretty much everything on the old site was copyrighted and I do not have permission to use any of it. If there is anything you would like to contribute to the new site please send it to me and I will add it as soon as I can. As was mentioned earlier I work so I may take a little time but I will get to it as soon as I can. Thank You Sheila **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001)

I think it's simply that most people don't contribute. I contributed a substantial amount to the Switzerland and Jefferson sites and most sites simply don't have somebody who contributes this. -----Original Message----- From: MaDark@aol.com To: inswitze@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 1:06 pm Subject: Re: [INSWITZE] Jefferson and Switzerland County GenWeb sites In a message dated 10/29/2008 8:46:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bobwscott@aol.com writes: I've told her I will not contribute new information, nor will I offer my stuff that was posted on the old sites, to GenWeb. Bob, do you suppose that some of the counties don't have information because people don't want to contribute their research for everyone? This MAY be the reason. As far as Ancestry, I have had the full database since they first began. Ancestry now owns the GenWeb system. Ancestry is a very expensive site but really has the most to offer. The information has errors as do all genealogy websites. I do what I can to correct them when I find them. I hope others do too. I live in Texas, but I am doing quite a bit of research in Indiana counties, including Switzerland and Jefferson Counties. Due to my health, it is impossible to physically go there. I truly depend on other researchers for help, mostly through the Indiana GenWeb sites. Ma **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INSWITZE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message