In a message dated 7/16/2005 12:49:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, MaDark@aol.com writes: Home in 1850: Liberty, Shelby, Indiana Page: 313 Roll: M432_172 living next door is: (possible family) Ruth Hales Liberty, Shelby, IN abt 1791 Kentucky Elsa Hales Liberty, Shelby, IN abt 1821 Indiana Amos B Hales Liberty, Shelby, IN abt 1831 Indiana Bingo. Hales instead of Huls. Ruth is the mother of James. Elsa and Amos are her children. Her husband Nathan died in 1839 and they are not buried together unless her grave is unmarked. The last she is known to have been alive is in 1868 when she signed an affadavit attesting to a grandchild's birth. Ruth was a Baker a large family many of whom moved to Indiana, so it was thought she was living with some of them after her husband's death. Apparently not. <<1860 Shelby Co In Will R Conner Liberty, Shelby, IN 53 1806 Ohio Male Mary Conner Liberty, Shelby, IN 51 1808 Kentucky Female Ruth Hulse Liberty, Shelby, IN 68 1791 Kentucky Female Benjamin F Hulse Liberty, Shelby, IN 15 1844 Indiana Male Jane W Hulse Liberty, Shelby, IN 9 1850 Indiana Female Post Office: Conns Creek Roll: M653_296 Page: 486 Year: 1860 Head of Household: Will R Conner >> Once again, bingo. This is the first connection I've seen between the Conners and the Huls other than the marriage of James and Mary Jane. So the Conner inlaws of James must have taken in his mother Ruth and two of her grandchildren. Whose children these are I don't know but she had 4 sons. They aren't the children of James, but possibly the children of Amos who was killed in the Civil War or John who died in 1855. The other son moved to Missouri. Thanks so much for opening this door. Jill