Hi Phyllis, Thanks for the reply and the suggestions. This is what I have done so far: I looked for Sarah House and her five-year old son in the 1850 census. I found no listing for a Sarah of the right age and the closest I could come for the child was a six-year old boy, Jacob House, in the household of Maston and Mary House. The closest Hoover male was a Charles Hoover but he was only two years old in the 1850 census. If the Samuel Hoover I found in Shelby County in the 1850 census is the right one, he was born about 1826 in Kentucky and was the son of David and Margaret Hoover, born in 1802 and 1804 in Pennsylvania--according to the 1850 census record. They were living in the Sugar Creek area. I didn't find Hiram Snider in the 1850 Shelby County census (or the 1840 census) and the only Robert Glenn I found was a 51 year-old man (no wife listed) living in the Jefferson area of Shelby County in 1850; he did have a four-year old son also named Robert. I considered other possible spellings for both Snider and Glenn but found no good possibilities under any variation. I checked the Indiana Marriages through 1850 and found no marriage record for a Sarah House. In the 1840 census for Shelby County, there is a Marton House (Ancestry.com indexing, but it looks as if it could be Maston), aged 30-40, with one female aged 5 to 10 who could have been about 15 in 1845; there is also a John House family with three females aged 10-15 and one female aged 15-20. I didn't find this John House family in the 1850 census in Shelby County, but I did find a Maston House (probably the same as Marton House in the 1840 census), aged 40. His is the family with whom the six-year old Jacob House noted above is living--possibly the son of Sarah? Sarah is not listed in the household. This family was living in the Moral area. As to the connection of Hoovers with Monroe County IN, I know that there are several marriages between the Hoover, Rhorer and Trisler families (through several generations) that came from the Jessamine County Kentucky area to southern IN. Some of these related Trislers and Rhorers were in both Shelby County and Monroe County and I think it is not unlikely that the Hoovers were probably in both counties as well although I don't have any specific instance of that for the Hoovers as I do for the Trislers and Rhorers. Eliza J. (Jennie) Sluss was the daughter of John M. Sluss and Eliza Hunter. John M. Sluss was born in Winchester Kentucky in 1807 and died in Monroe County IN in 1878. Eliza Hunter was born in Kentucky in 1808 but I don't have any further information on her. To my knowledge, there is no connection with the Sluss family to Shelby County. If you happen to be around the courthouse and have a few minutes to spare to see if there is anything else on this case, that would be great. I'm not sure that there is a connection to the Samuel A. Hoover who married Eliza J. Sluss, but I think it could be possible that it is the same person or he could be related to the Hoovers in Monroe County who are part of my family--although not a direct connection. The Hoover name in this item caught my eye and I wondered if anyone might have more information that could lead to determining whether or not this Samuel Hoover ties into my family. Thanks again for the response and the ideas. Connie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phyllis Miller Fleming Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] House vs Hoover This is a little too early for any newspaper coverage in Shelby County. You could check the newspaper in Johnson County. The only good lead would be the male child born in Johnson County around 1845. I don't know if his last name was House or Hoover, but he would probably be on the census records in the household of Sarah Ann House, her parents or one of her siblings. Perhaps Sarah married before the 1850 census. But my aim would be to follow the male child and see if his death certificate lists his father's name. Following Samuel Hoover's "friends" might give some clues. Did Samuel Hoover's family live near the families of Robert Glenn or Hiram Snider? Shelby County does not have any major connections with Monroe County but maybe the Hoover family was from that area. Can you find the birth name of Samuel's mother? The roads between here and Monroe County still are not great and I am sure they were horrible in 1850. If Shelby County Samuel traveled to Monroe County, he had to have had a reason. What do you know about the Sluss family? Did they have Shelby County connections? The search would be fun, but I wouldn't count on finding an answer in this world. Do you want me to check for other Hoover court records? If so , what time period? I don't see any Hoover probate records. I don't see any burial for Samuel Hoover or Sarah House. What about Samuel's parents? Maybe their obituaries would say something about where their son Samuel was living. P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Connie Shotts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] House vs Hoover > Thanks for providing this item from the court records. Is there anything > further on this record? I am wondering if the Samuel Hoover in this court > record is Samuel Hoover who married Eliza J. (Jennie) Sluss in Monroe > County > IN 25 Sep 1855? I believe I found the Samuel Hoover of this court case > listed with his parents in the 1850 census in Shelby County, apparently > unmarried. > > I know that the Samuel Hoover who married Jennie Sluss in 1855 was > divorced > from Jennie before 1880 after having one child, a son, Fred I. Hoover born > in 1862. I have not been able to locate Samuel and Eliza J. (Jennie) > Sluss > Hoover in either the 1860 or 1870 census records. His name for the > marriage > record is listed as Samuel A. Hoover. > > Thanks for any information or suggestions anyone may have. > Connie > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Phyllis Miller Fleming > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [INSHELBY] House vs Hoover > >>From Barb Huff: > > Sarah Ann House vs Samuel Hoover, 1845 > http://www.shelbycountyindiana.org/courthouse/civil_records/civ_HouseS.htm > > Glenn > Snider > > P > > > > Don't forget to check out our genealogy web site. > http://shelbycountyindiana.org > > Shelby County Researchers, please send me an e-mail with your contact > information and the surnames that you are researching > ([email protected]) and let me know whenever that information > changes. I would like to keep track of all of our researchers. Thanks, > Melinda > > Any questions or problems regarding this list should be directed to me > ([email protected]). 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Thanks, Melinda > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Don't forget to check out our genealogy web site. http://shelbycountyindiana.org Shelby County Researchers, please send me an e-mail with your contact information and the surnames that you are researching ([email protected]) and let me know whenever that information changes. I would like to keep track of all of our researchers. Thanks, Melinda Any questions or problems regarding this list should be directed to me ([email protected]). Thanks, Melinda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message