I was referring to the Godfrey Library. They have census records, books, etc. on line. It costs about $35 a year to subscribe. Census records are indexed by head of household only, and they don't have 1850 and 1880, but they can come in handy for someone you can't find on Ancestry. Sometimes they have the name indexed correctly, where Ancestry has it wrong (and vice versa). They have most County histories for the U.S. and many other books on line. Here's the site: http://www.godfreylibrary.org/ Jim . . James R. Baker, Jr. (jrbakerjr) Free Genealogy Databases http://www.jrbakerjr.com . . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antoinette Waughtel Sorensen" <waughtel@oz.net> To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] 1920 Census free two days > Now my turn, what is "using" Godfrey. Might come in handy when doing > census > records as I keep find Sinex under P, F & L and as Senix, Senex, Sinix > <smile> and again with the other - P, F & L ~ > Thank you. > Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James R. Baker, Jr." <jim@jrbakerjr.com> > To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:29 PM > Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] 1920 Census free two days

Well I did find it interesting to read through all the pages too. I recognized most of the names--a scary thought--knew many of the people and found many relatives. It was interesting a long time ago when I looked through census records for ancestors in NC. Many of the neighbors had come to IN at the same time so there were many recognizable and related names. Jill

LOL You must have the magic touch. I tried Godfrey as the first name and the last name (and different times) and it was with no success. So I'm with Antoinette, what is "Godfrey"? Is there any way to just get to that page without searching on a name? Jill

Last Name: SMITH First Name: JAMES M Spouse- Last Name: COTTON Spouse- First Name: ELIZA JANE County: Shelby Date: 5-10-1841

If you don't find them, I can send you a copy. Jim . . James R. Baker, Jr. (jrbakerjr) Free Genealogy Databases http://www.jrbakerjr.com . . ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jknitl@aol.com> To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] 1920 Census free two days > Oh thanks Jim, I'll go look at it. I thought I had checked all the pages > of > Hanover Twp, but I guess I missed some. > > Jill > > > ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to often check-out our website at > www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm > > History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines > reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us > tidings of antiquity. > > - Cicero > > For questions regarding the list, contact me at mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net > > Thanks! > Melinda > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Found this article in Taylor County Iowa. SMITH, W. E., Bedford, son of Elder James M. Smith, an eminent Baptist minister. Subject is a native of Shelby county, Indiana. Was ushered into this world, November 4, 1844. In 1854, he came with his parents to this county, locating on a farm in what is now known as section twenty-one, Benton township. Here he spent his days in attending school and assisting his parents on the farm. In 1862, he resolved to give his aid in putting down the rebellion, and in March, of that year, went to St. Joseph and enlisted in company G, Fourth Missouri cavalry, and served his county until the summer of 1866. During his service he was engaged in guerrilla warfare, and experienced many hard marches and hotly contested battles. At the close of the rebellion, in 1865, he was sent to the frontier, and was engaged in Indian warfare until May, 1866, when he was honorably discharged, at Leavenworth, Kansas. Returning to his home, he was married, December 12, 1867, to Miss Sarah Evans, daughter of Rev. John Evans, of this county. Mr. and Mrs. Smith are members of the Baptist Church, and are both firm believers in the faith.

Thank you Antoinette. That is my family. I had tried Grace on the search also, with no luck. I see Jim found them and they are in the census, just not the index. Thanks to all of you for your kindness. Jill

Oh thanks Jim, I'll go look at it. I thought I had checked all the pages of Hanover Twp, but I guess I missed some. Jill

I found them in 1920 using Godfrey. William R., Grace and Harold. Hanover Twp., Morristown, Town, District 114 1st Ward, Sheet 2B I doublechecked Ancestry and the page is there, the indexer just missed them. Jim . . James R. Baker, Jr. (jrbakerjr) Free Genealogy Databases http://www.jrbakerjr.com . . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antoinette Waughtel Sorensen" <waughtel@oz.net> To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] 1920 Census free two days > In the 1930 census they are in Hanover, District 9, Shelby County, on King > Street. Is this correct? William age 40 married at 22; Grace age 38 > married at 20; Harold (son) age 12. William states his father was born > North Carolina and Grace states her mother was born Missouri. All other > place of birth was Indiana. William is listed as a Salesman/Automobiles. > I > found it by going through Grace. Doesn't seem to be any on the 1920 but > will certainly keep them in mind as I do my research. > Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Jknitl@aol.com> > To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:29 PM > Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] 1920 Census free two days > > >> No that's not him. His wife was Grace and his son was Harold. I >> thought >> perhaps they were living with his parents or hers, but not. I think >> I've >> looked at every Will, Bill, William, etc, Arnold in Indiana, but no >> luck. > I know >> they never lived anywhere else. I'm not sure if they ever travelled, >> but > I >> kind of doubt it. And I found all there relatives right there in > Indiana, so >> it's a mystery. >> >> Jill >> >> >> ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== >> Don't forget to often check-out our website at > www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm >> >> History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it >> illumines > reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us > tidings of antiquity. >> >> - Cicero >> >> For questions regarding the list, contact me at >> mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net >> >> Thanks! >> Melinda >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > > ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to often check-out our website at > www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm > > History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines > reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us > tidings of antiquity. > > - Cicero > > For questions regarding the list, contact me at mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net > > Thanks! > Melinda > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bi.2ADI/501.2.1 Message Board Post: Tim: It is so good to hear from you. Yes, I left a message for Bud, and Don to let them know your dad wanted to talk to them. I wanted them to know DJ has seen him, and says he is frail. I have never met him, but I love him so much. Funny how you can grow close to a person like that. I always check on him to see how he is doing. You can all reach me at: bncurtis101@aol.com DJ is headed this direction again, He passes thru your area off and on. He was here a couple weeks ago, and headed to PA and now on his way back. They keep him headed thru here about once a month. They know he lives far from his family and he keeps in touch with them always. Nan Curtis

Sure, Ancestry made some mistakes and the census taker made some mistakes. However 5 years ago we did not have Ancestry's index - we used Soundex if we were at the National Archives or some large library that had all of the census films. I am fortunate that I live in an area with both a National Archives branch and a large genealogy library - MidContinent in Independence, MO so I have had access to census but it used to take a lot of work. Both my husband and I often worked for 4 hours and would go home with maybe 4-5 census sheets and sometimes not that many. We enjoyed doing it but it was hard work. And while there is a Soundex for Indiana for 1900 and 1920 there is no Indiana Soundex for 1910. Researching Indiana was a lot harder for 1910 than for other states. There were a few companies that did sell CD's for a census index. I think we should be grateful for how much easier census work is in 2005 than it was just a few years ago. Also keep in mind that after the census taker went door to door asking the questions, the census sheet you see is the one he/she rewrote after he got home. This why the writing is uniform on a sheet. It may also account for some of the mistakes. Kathy

It is true - we do live and learn ! ! ! Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jknitl@aol.com> To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] 1920 Census free two days > LOL You must have the magic touch. I tried Godfrey as the first name and > the last name (and different times) and it was with no success. So I'm with > Antoinette, what is "Godfrey"? > > Is there any way to just get to that page without searching on a name? > > Jill > > > > ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to often check-out our website at www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm > > History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us tidings of antiquity. > > - Cicero > > For questions regarding the list, contact me at mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net > > Thanks! > Melinda > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 > > >

I remember the good old days when we use to start at the beginning of the film and wind our way through to the end even though many told us we didn't have to do it that way, it was so much more fullfilling, at least to me. Even if we were only looking for one person, it was a thrill finding all the others as we went through them in our merry way - back bending at that though. But where there's a will there's a way. Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jknitl@aol.com> To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] 1920 Census free two days > Thank you Antoinette. That is my family. I had tried Grace on the search > also, with no luck. I see Jim found them and they are in the census, just not > the index. Thanks to all of you for your kindness. > > Jill > > > ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to often check-out our website at www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm > > History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us tidings of antiquity. > > - Cicero > > For questions regarding the list, contact me at mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net > > Thanks! > Melinda > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >

Now my turn, what is "using" Godfrey. Might come in handy when doing census records as I keep find Sinex under P, F & L and as Senix, Senex, Sinix <smile> and again with the other - P, F & L ~ Thank you. Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) ----- Original Message ----- From: "James R. Baker, Jr." <jim@jrbakerjr.com> To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] 1920 Census free two days > I found them in 1920 using Godfrey. > William R., Grace and Harold. > Hanover Twp., Morristown, Town, District 114 > 1st Ward, Sheet 2B > > I doublechecked Ancestry and the page is there, the indexer just missed > them. > Jim > . > . > James R. Baker, Jr. (jrbakerjr) > Free Genealogy Databases > http://www.jrbakerjr.com > . > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Antoinette Waughtel Sorensen" <waughtel@oz.net> > To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:02 PM > Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] 1920 Census free two days > > > > In the 1930 census they are in Hanover, District 9, Shelby County, on King > > Street. Is this correct? William age 40 married at 22; Grace age 38 > > married at 20; Harold (son) age 12. William states his father was born > > North Carolina and Grace states her mother was born Missouri. All other > > place of birth was Indiana. William is listed as a Salesman/Automobiles. > > I > > found it by going through Grace. Doesn't seem to be any on the 1920 but > > will certainly keep them in mind as I do my research. > > Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Jknitl@aol.com> > > To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] 1920 Census free two days > > > > > >> No that's not him. His wife was Grace and his son was Harold. I > >> thought > >> perhaps they were living with his parents or hers, but not. I think > >> I've > >> looked at every Will, Bill, William, etc, Arnold in Indiana, but no > >> luck. > > I know > >> they never lived anywhere else. I'm not sure if they ever travelled, > >> but > > I > >> kind of doubt it. And I found all there relatives right there in > > Indiana, so > >> it's a mystery. > >> > >> Jill > >> > >> > >> ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== > >> Don't forget to often check-out our website at > > www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm > >> > >> History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it > >> illumines > > reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us > > tidings of antiquity. > >> > >> - Cicero > >> > >> For questions regarding the list, contact me at > >> mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net > >> > >> Thanks! > >> Melinda > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== > > Don't forget to often check-out our website at > > www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm > > > > History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines > > reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us > > tidings of antiquity. > > > > - Cicero > > > > For questions regarding the list, contact me at mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net > > > > Thanks! > > Melinda > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to often check-out our website at www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm > > History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us tidings of antiquity. > > - Cicero > > For questions regarding the list, contact me at mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net > > Thanks! > Melinda > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >

No that's not him. His wife was Grace and his son was Harold. I thought perhaps they were living with his parents or hers, but not. I think I've looked at every Will, Bill, William, etc, Arnold in Indiana, but no luck. I know they never lived anywhere else. I'm not sure if they ever travelled, but I kind of doubt it. And I found all there relatives right there in Indiana, so it's a mystery. Jill

Hi Janet, William Rush Arnold. They lived in Carthage, Arlington, Morristown, or Gwynneville all their lives. In 1920 I don't know which one, but my best guess would be Carthage. I've tried every possible combination for names and dates. I know for sure they lived in Indiana, in either Rush or Shelby County. Grandpa was born in 1889 so I did a plus or minus 5 years and then 10. Nada. I guess it doesn't really matter, since I have death certificates, obits, etc. Just thought it would be interesting to find them on the census. I found his brothers and a sister, but not him. Even found Grandma's sister and parents. Grandpa's parents too. I bet they were just not available when the census taker came by. Jill

In the 1930 census they are in Hanover, District 9, Shelby County, on King Street. Is this correct? William age 40 married at 22; Grace age 38 married at 20; Harold (son) age 12. William states his father was born North Carolina and Grace states her mother was born Missouri. All other place of birth was Indiana. William is listed as a Salesman/Automobiles. I found it by going through Grace. Doesn't seem to be any on the 1920 but will certainly keep them in mind as I do my research. Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jknitl@aol.com> To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] 1920 Census free two days > No that's not him. His wife was Grace and his son was Harold. I thought > perhaps they were living with his parents or hers, but not. I think I've > looked at every Will, Bill, William, etc, Arnold in Indiana, but no luck. I know > they never lived anywhere else. I'm not sure if they ever travelled, but I > kind of doubt it. And I found all there relatives right there in Indiana, so > it's a mystery. > > Jill > > > ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to often check-out our website at www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm > > History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us tidings of antiquity. > > - Cicero > > For questions regarding the list, contact me at mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net > > Thanks! > Melinda > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Janet, This is Corasue Hatton over at Shelbyville Library. Long time no see. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Franklin" <trixierose@sbcglobal.net> To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] 1920 Census free two days > > Jill, I didn't catch what name you're looking for, > maybe I can help you look, > Janet > > Jknitl@aol.com wrote: > I've tried everything possible, all combinations, even went page by page > through all of Hanover Twp in Shelby and Posey Twp in Rush, even part of Center > Twp, and it's just not there. > > Something kind of sad I thought about, my dad had a sister born in September > of 1920. Had the family been in the census she still wouldn't have been > listed. She died in 1925, long before the 1930 census. So, she never was even > counted. I'll bet there are lots of instances like this. > > Jill > > > ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to often check-out our website at www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm > > History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us tidings of antiquity. > > - Cicero > > For questions regarding the list, contact me at mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net > > Thanks! > Melinda > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > We fix problems with duct tape and glue, God used Nails > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to often check-out our website at www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm > > History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us tidings of antiquity. > > - Cicero > > For questions regarding the list, contact me at mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net > > Thanks! > Melinda > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

You mention he was born 1889 and you checked using + - 5/10 - What was his wife's name? Children? I have seen your messages but didn't pay attention at the time but curiousity got the best of me - my mother always told me Curiousity killed the cat but satisfaction brought it back - I found a Will Arnold in 1920 Rush County with wife Myla and son and daughter. He is 41 - could this be him or have you checked this one already. Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jknitl@aol.com> To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] 1920 Census free two days > Hi Janet, > William Rush Arnold. They lived in Carthage, Arlington, Morristown, or > Gwynneville all their lives. In 1920 I don't know which one, but my best guess > would be Carthage. I've tried every possible combination for names and dates. > I know for sure they lived in Indiana, in either Rush or Shelby County. > Grandpa was born in 1889 so I did a plus or minus 5 years and then 10. Nada. > I guess it doesn't really matter, since I have death certificates, obits, > etc. Just thought it would be interesting to find them on the census. I found > his brothers and a sister, but not him. Even found Grandma's sister and > parents. Grandpa's parents too. I bet they were just not available when the > census taker came by. > > Jill > > > ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to often check-out our website at www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm > > History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us tidings of antiquity. > > - Cicero > > For questions regarding the list, contact me at mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net > > Thanks! > Melinda > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Durbin Clark Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bi.2ADI/501.2 Message Board Post: Hi Nan. Austin Clark Durbin III and Donald Durbin are my cousins. My Dad is Al in Cincinnati. Today's Talk Radio and tv news are full of condemnation of Sen. Richard Durbin (D) IL for his disgraceful comparison of Gitmo to the Nazi and Soviet gulags. That got me doing google searches for Durbin and Clark family genealogy, etc. There I found this post from you. Noble Twp. is in far SE corner of Shelby Co. I see no indica- tion of where Sulphur Hill Cem. is located. I'd like to discuss your family tree research. Please contact me at rmwarch@aol.com Thanks Tim Durbin