What about John's estate record? The three boys were definitely under age 21 when John died. P ----- Original Message ----- From: "James R. Baker, Jr." <jim@jrbakerjr.com> To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 12:41 PM Subject: [INSHELBY] John Baker Jr.'s missing children > Although this isn't a Shelby question, I know there are helpful and > knowledgeable people on this list. > Here's what I've been working on for quite some time. > My ancestor, John Baker Jr. remarried to Susanna Gatton in 1816 in > Campbell Co., Ky. They had children. He died in 1822. In 1826, she > remarried to Nicholas Connett and they went to Fayette Co., Ohio. They had > children. > About 1836, Nicholas died and Susan went To Wayne Co., Indiana, then later > to Putnam county, then later to Illinois. > She left no Will or Probate Record. > According to census and tax records, John Baker and Susan had 3 sons, > names unknown. I've been looking for those boys. They would be half > brothers to my William Baker. > I THINK I have them, but can't prove them. I need to prove they were sons > of Susan Connett (or Conant). > Does anyone with some knowledge of Indiana local records have any ideas of > any documents in Wayne or Putnam that might show the names of parents of > these three Bakers? > Information on them is listed below. > Jim > . > . > Probable sons for John and Susanna (Gatton) Baker. (All were born in > Kentucky) > -------------------- > James M. Baker, b. ca. 1817, wife Phebe (in Putnam 1860-1870, then > vanished) No children. > Phoebe Doddridge married James Baker on 1843-03-23 Wayne Co., IN. (Book D > ; Page 181) > In 1840, John Dodredge is 3 census names below Susan Conant. > -------------------- > Lorenzo D. Baker, b. ca. 1822, wife Eliza (in Putnam in 1851 then went to > Illinois, then to > Gasconade Co., Missouri. Died 1870's in Gasconade) His widow is there with > a married daughter in 1880. > Eliza J. Showers (Sowers) married Lorenzo D. Baker on 1847-11-18 Wayne > Co., IN..(Book E ; Page 198) > Henry Sowers is 2 census pages before Susan Connett in 1840. > Note: There is a grave in Putnam Co. for an infant named Sylvester A. > Baker who died in 1851. The parents were L.D. and E.M. Baker. It appears > that Lorenzo and Elizabeth named a son for Sylvester, so they were > probably brothers. > --------------------- > Sylvester A. Baker, b. ca. 1821,wife Hulda (in Putnam 1850 through 1880, > and died there Nov. 1887) Hulda died there in 1892. No children. > Hulda Hendricks married Sylvester Baker on 1846-03-12 Wayne Co., IN. (Book > E ; Page 43) > --------------------- > > . > . > James R. Baker, Jr. > Free Genealogy Databases > http://www.jrbakerjr.com > . > > > ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to often check-out our website at > www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm > > History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines > reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us > tidings of antiquity. > > - Cicero > > For questions regarding the list, contact me at mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net > > Thanks! > Melinda > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 7/28/2005 > >

Although this isn't a Shelby question, I know there are helpful and knowledgeable people on this list. Here's what I've been working on for quite some time. My ancestor, John Baker Jr. remarried to Susanna Gatton in 1816 in Campbell Co., Ky. They had children. He died in 1822. In 1826, she remarried to Nicholas Connett and they went to Fayette Co., Ohio. They had children. About 1836, Nicholas died and Susan went To Wayne Co., Indiana, then later to Putnam county, then later to Illinois. She left no Will or Probate Record. According to census and tax records, John Baker and Susan had 3 sons, names unknown. I've been looking for those boys. They would be half brothers to my William Baker. I THINK I have them, but can't prove them. I need to prove they were sons of Susan Connett (or Conant). Does anyone with some knowledge of Indiana local records have any ideas of any documents in Wayne or Putnam that might show the names of parents of these three Bakers? Information on them is listed below. Jim . . Probable sons for John and Susanna (Gatton) Baker. (All were born in Kentucky) -------------------- James M. Baker, b. ca. 1817, wife Phebe (in Putnam 1860-1870, then vanished) No children. Phoebe Doddridge married James Baker on 1843-03-23 Wayne Co., IN. (Book D ; Page 181) In 1840, John Dodredge is 3 census names below Susan Conant. -------------------- Lorenzo D. Baker, b. ca. 1822, wife Eliza (in Putnam in 1851 then went to Illinois, then to Gasconade Co., Missouri. Died 1870's in Gasconade) His widow is there with a married daughter in 1880. Eliza J. Showers (Sowers) married Lorenzo D. Baker on 1847-11-18 Wayne Co., IN..(Book E ; Page 198) Henry Sowers is 2 census pages before Susan Connett in 1840. Note: There is a grave in Putnam Co. for an infant named Sylvester A. Baker who died in 1851. The parents were L.D. and E.M. Baker. It appears that Lorenzo and Elizabeth named a son for Sylvester, so they were probably brothers. --------------------- Sylvester A. Baker, b. ca. 1821,wife Hulda (in Putnam 1850 through 1880, and died there Nov. 1887) Hulda died there in 1892. No children. Hulda Hendricks married Sylvester Baker on 1846-03-12 Wayne Co., IN. (Book E ; Page 43) --------------------- . . James R. Baker, Jr. Free Genealogy Databases http://www.jrbakerjr.com .

I am trying to help a BIGGS researcher with courthouse legwork. It seems that none of the patriarchs were involved in litigation or died here in Shelby Co, so I'm not finding too much. If any Kitchel, Fox or Kennedy researchers have BIGGS info, I would appreciate it. Thanks, Phyllis

http://www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/newspaper/news_allen.htm SWAIN

Transcribed by Barb Huff: http://www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/courthouse/estate_records/est_otoolej.htm Margaret Tracey O'Toole, 1913

New information for the migration survey: http://www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/frontpage_forms/migrations/migration_survey_h.htm George and Francis NEWBOLD

Mary ROSS Helloran, d 1899 http://www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/obituaries/obit_helloran.htm

http://www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/newspaper/news_allen.htm SWAIN

Complaint on contract, 1926 http://www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/newspaper/news_dake.htm GRAHAM DAKE LISHER

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Bi.2ADI/561 Message Board Post: great source of info http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohwarren/Bios/Assets/schnorf4.pdf

I am posting this asking if anyone may have any information that could lead me in the right direction on finding more of my HILL family line. I have tried, and failed, to connect my line of HILL to Isaac Hill, son of Abraham and Sarah (Hawkins) Chesser. And Samuel FitzRandolph Hill, son of James and Mary (FitzRandolph) Hill. Abraham and James, brothers and sons of William and Mary Hill. If anyone can help me I would truly appreciate it. Kimbra Hill Smith 1. Thomas HILL (2nd Great Grandfather) was born 1 Mar 1821 in KY. He died 22 Jan 1891 in IN and was buried in Second Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, Shelby Co. IN. Thomas married Amy May TUCKER on 4 Dec 1843 in Bartholomew Co., IN. Amy was born 31 Dec 1826 in OH. She died 2 Jun 1897 in Shelby Co., IN from Pneumonia. They had the following children: + 2 M i. Jacob HILL was born about 1846 and died before 1880. + 3 M ii. William Franklin HILL (Great Grandfather) was born 13 May 1848 and died 12 Jul 1902. 4 F iii. Sarah S HILL was born 23 Oct 1849. She died 13 Apr 1869 in IN and was buried in Second Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, Shelby Co. IN. Sarah married (MRIN:714) William D CHAMBERS on 26 Oct 1876 in Shelby Co., IN. + 5 M iv. Thomas Albert HILL was born about 1852. + 6 F v. Margaret E HILL was born about 1854. 7 F vi. Huldah HILL was born 13 Nov 1859. She died 18 Apr 1869 in IN and was buried in Second Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, Shelby Co. IN. 8 F vii. Amanda HILL was born 9 Mar 1863. She died 14 Aug 1876 in IN and was buried in Second Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, Shelby Co. IN. + 9 M viii. Brinton HILL was born Apr 1866 and died 23 Mar 1913. 3. William Franklin HILL (Thomas) (Great Grandfather) was born 13 May 1848 in IN. He died 12 Jul 1902 in Shelby Co., IN. William married Sarah Mariah SNYDER, daughter of Michael SNYDER and Magdalena LAMBERT , on 15 Dec 1870 in Shelby Co. IN. Sarah was born Jan 1845 in Bartholomew Co. IN. She died 1911 in Shelby Co., IN. They had the following children: + 14 F i. Mary Magdalene HILL was born 1874 and died 1954. + 15 F ii. Amy May HILL was born 12 Dec 1880 and died Sep 1962. + 16 F iii. Clara Lorena HILL (Grandfather) was born 2 May 1885 and died 25 Nov 1968. + 17 M iv. Oza Brinton HILL was born 24 Oct 1889 and died 24 Nov 1943. + 18 F v. Annis Dolly HILL was born 9 Aug 1891 and died 21 Mar 1975. 17. Oza Brinton HILL (William Franklin, Thomas) (Grandfather) was born 24 Oct 1889 in Fairland, Hendricks Twp, Shelby Co. IN. He died 24 Nov 1943 in Fairland, Hendricks Twp, Shelby Co. IN. Oza married Audra Ersal THURSTON, daughter of Elijah Levi J. THURSTON and Elizabeth Minerva HARTZELL, on 21 Jan 1908 in Shelby Co., IN. Audra was born 6 Jun 1892 in Shelby Co. IN. She died 3 Mar 1969 in Mt. Dora, FL and was buried in Second Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, Shelby Co. IN. They had the following children: + 36 M i. Albert Otis HILL was born 22 Apr 1910 and died 16 Jun 2002. 37 F ii. Leberta Justine HILL was born 19 Jun 1915 in Moral Twp. Shelby Co, IN. She died 19 Jun 1915 and was buried in Mt. Pleasant Cemetery. + 38 M iii. Herman Loyd HILL was born 3 Aug 1918 and died 6 Feb 2001. + 39 M iv. Alfred Wayne HILL was born 19 Feb 1926 and died Feb 1986. + 40 M v. Living HILL + 41 M vi. Living HILL

I am going to have a nudge to remember what my family connection to the Hills is. I don't recall a recent post to the Shelby County Indiana site though I read every post with enormous interest since so many of my ancestors once lived there. If there is a connection it is probably that a Hill married the sibling of one of my ancestors. My present computer has no genealogy on it. When my old one's modem quit working last December I copied all my files over to the new PC but I can't open any of them. I am waiting for a techie son to visit in a couple weeks to see if he can figure out how to access the old files. There is another Linda Dunham in Washington state. Is there any possibility you got us mixed up? Till later--Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <DtwRaver@aol.com> To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] HILL > Hi Linda, > > I noticed your recent post regarding the Hill family of Shelby co., > Indiana. > I am descended via Isaac, Abraham, John, Ida Mae (my g.grandmother.) I > have very little information on the family before John (12 JAN 1851 > Bartholomew > Co., IN - 1 DEC 1938 Shelby Co., IN). > > I'd love to perhaps exchange information with you. Would you be > interested? > Please let me know. > > Sincerely, > > Bruce Greene > > > ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to often check-out our website at > www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm > > History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines > reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us > tidings of antiquity. > > - Cicero > > For questions regarding the list, contact me at mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net > > Thanks! > Melinda > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Hi Linda, I noticed your recent post regarding the Hill family of Shelby co., Indiana. I am descended via Isaac, Abraham, John, Ida Mae (my g.grandmother.) I have very little information on the family before John (12 JAN 1851 Bartholomew Co., IN - 1 DEC 1938 Shelby Co., IN). I'd love to perhaps exchange information with you. Would you be interested? Please let me know. Sincerely, Bruce Greene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Bi.2ADI/541.1.2.2 Message Board Post: Shirley, could you email me back regarding the McNew's. Thanks! Shirley 2 :)

It's definitely a blimp. In air traffic parlance the Goodyear Blimp is "Airship November-----". There are several of them you know. Jill

There were also some hot air balloons in those days. In fact, I'm trying to find some record of a man who operated such things in the mid-west around the turn of the century and earlier. They were supposedly used in the Civil War by both sides. -- Jeanne > It's definitely a blimp. In air traffic parlance the Goodyear Blimp is > "Airship November-----". There are several of them you know. > Jill >

Thanks for the William Hacker VS Smith Wingate Court Case transcription (of 1857). It mentions W. C. Miller & James E. Robertson and the firm of W. C. Miller & Co. I am researching the James E. Robertson family and am particularly interested in him, the ancestry of his wife Eliza Thompson & details about his daughter, Mary Jane. Does anybody know what W.C. Miller & Co. did? I have notes that indicate that Robertson was a Shelbyville contractor in the 1840s & 1850s and that after the Civil War he moved to Indianapolis where he ran a wholesale grocery and was a director in a bank & fire insurance company. He apparently also built a turnpike & a brick building in Shelbyville & tried to build a railroad at Greensburg, but was unsuccessful. James E. Robertson married Eliza Thompson on Sep. 3 1841 or 1840 in Shelbyville. Does anybody know if her mother is listed on the marriage record, or which year is correct? I have seen it listed for both years. The 1st child was born in 1841, so 1840 seems more likely.

Since Wilbur & Orville didn't fly till 1908... (Even though my kids think it, I wasn't there to see), I would suspect it was a blimp. Or (he is in my family tree) he may have had a wee bit too much to drink that day and was imagining things. No doubt a strange thing to witness at the turn of the century. George Young

Thanks for the logical critique. And I needed the laugh this morning. Thanks to migraines, I never have any alcohol -- so seeing those with a "wee bit too much to drink" is quite hilarious to those of us that are sober. ----- Original Message ----- From: <OLDHIKER50@aol.com> To: <INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [INSHELBY] SALLA > > Since Wilbur & Orville didn't fly till 1908... (Even though my kids think > it, I wasn't there to see), I would suspect it was a blimp. Or (he is in > my > family tree) he may have had a wee bit too much to drink that day and was > imagining things. > > No doubt a strange thing to witness at the turn of the century. > > George Young > > > > > > > ==== INSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to often check-out our website at > www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/index.htm > > History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines > reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us > tidings of antiquity. > > - Cicero > > For questions regarding the list, contact me at mmweaver1864@sbcglobal.net > > Thanks! > Melinda > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 7/28/2005 > >

Many snippets from the "In the News" columns. Please use the index to pull up the surnames listed. http://www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/newspaper/news_index.htm WINTERROWD ELLIS SHELK ROBINS WORLAND RAPP CARLISLE TENNANT ENSMINGER MORRISON CARSON MOORE COCHRAN POWELL SWAIN MCCREA DAVIS CLARK MCCOMB HARRELL FOWLER CULBERTSON FALLIS LEVINSON PHILLIPS HAMILTON BASS VANWAY GREGORY LEE WAGGONER Historical Articles: Railroads http://www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/historical_articles/history_railroads.htm Presbyterian Church http://www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/historical_articles/history_ch_presby.htm Ray House http://www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/historical_articles/history_freemasonry.htm Baldwin Commandry #2 http://www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/historical_articles/history_freemasonry.htm