This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4h.2ADI/1377.1.1 Message Board Post: my great grand father joseph a klump & wife julia ramby klump & child are daughers laura,ola,lily & son george. they are julia stepchildren & her daugher is nettie hope this helps little bit.jeff.