Hello! I have a photo of Belva, I think and maybe a letter she sent my great grandmother. I will have to look. It is either in my great grandmothers photos or my gg aunts. Joel Newman was born in Warren Co., Ohio 30 Oct 1830 near Waynesville, Ohio. Joel is buried at Cherry Grove Cemetery in Randolph Co., IN near Lynn, IN. He died 24 Dec 1907. Joel was in Randolph Co. by 1856 at the time of his first marriage to Sarah Cornelius who died sometime before his second marriage to Margaret Ellis in 1858. His parents are Joseph Newman and Rebecca Pugh. I have Jonathan being born 4 Dec 1809 in Ohio. I have his birth information from Hinshaw's Quaker Records for Warren Co., Ohio. Joseph and Rebecca were married 7 Jan 1830 in Warren Co., Ohio. Rebecca was born about 1807. The 1880 census for son Joel states she was born in Ohio. Joseph's parents are Jonathan Newman and Ann Cloud. Jonathan was born 8 Dec 1768 and married Ann Clound March 1797 in New Garden MM, NC. The Clouds and the Pughs are big time Quakers. I actually have some notes that I need to add to my database. I should do that and then send you a PDF file. Back to Belva, I meet both of her sons Fred and Edwin. They were friends of my grandparents and cousins to my grandmother. My gg aunt use to live on a farm that I think was next to Edwin's. I do not see your direct e-mail if you will send it to me at [email protected] I will send some images and the PDF file. I have more on the Pugh's and the Cloud's. "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Roxanne_Engle Surnames: Newman, Engle Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.randolph/3292.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jennifer, Just found your posts on Stillwell, Ellis and Joel A Newman. Thanks for some info I hadn't found. Do you know the parents of Joel or where he is buried? Census lists him as being born in OH. I have his Civil War record and the earliest I find him is on the 1860 census of Washington, Randolph Co, IN. I am researching this line in conection with Belva H Newman and John Wesley Engle. Roxanne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ******************************** Please Visit The Randolph County INGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~inrandol/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Jennifer E. Capps 5920 East University Ave. Indianapolis, Indiana 46219 Home E-Mail [email protected] --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.